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A33929	A compendious discourse about some of the greatest matters of Christian faith propounded and explained between a minister and an enquiring Christian ... : and also may serve for an answer to two books, one called The practical discourse of the sovereignty of God, the other called The death of death, by the death of Christ, written by J.O. : whereunto is annexed a very brief appendix / written by T. Collier.	Collier, Thomas, fl. 1691.	1682 (1682)	Wing C5274; ESTC R20632	146,911	256

multitudes of them did believe Act. 2. 4. and 4. 4. and 6. 7. and 21. 20. Christ The 7th Scripture I shall mention is Jude v 4. Which speaks of certain men of old Ordained to this Condemnation Hence some conclude that some are Ordained to be damned and cannot possibly be saved Minist Tho it 's true that God hath Ordained that wicked men persisting in sin shall be damned yet the inference as drawn from this Scripture is a great abuse and wrong to the Text. The word in the Greek is of whom it was written in time past or of old unto this Judgment and so Tindal renders it that is God had of old or in time past threatened such Judgment unto such sinners as a just reward of their sin It was written of old v 14. not that he made or Ordained them for that End So that the truth stands clear from the word of truth that God exerciseth his Sovereignty over men in a way of Righteousness according to his word and not from his own will to save and damn whom he pleases distinct from his Laws given to men on that behalf the assertion of which being the highest abuse and dishonour to God the Sovereign Governour of the world as can possibly be put upon him and therefore is to be abhor'd of all sober men Christ I shall at present enquire no further about this matter being well satisfied in what has been said and likewise that there has been and yet is great mistakes about this matter that is of so great and weighconcern rightly to be understood I desire you to give me some inferences by way of instruction from the whole Min. 1. To know and be assuredly established in this that there is no decree of God for your destruction distinct from sin as the just and deserving cause persisted in without Repentance 2. Take heed and beware of sinning against this Gracious Holy and Righteous God who tho he made not men to sin and be damned yet he will by no means clear the guilty but will wound the head of his Enemies and the hairy scalp of such a one as goeth on still in his trespasses Ps 68. 21. Therefore let not the Rebellious exalt themselves Ps 66. 7. As he is Gracious and full of Compassion so he is just it 's his name his nature and word Exod. 34. 6 7. Therefore I say take heed and beware of all sin 3. Take heed and beware of entertaining such notions about the Sovereignty of God as are not suitable to his name and nature his Word and Will in which his Goodness Mercy Justice Wisdom Holiness Truth and Faithfulness is so much concerned lest you dishonor him in thinking and speaking that which is not right concerning him and his Wrath be kindled against you as it was against Job's three Friends because they spake not the things that were right of him as Job did Job 42. 7. He is very jealous of his name and honor and accepteth not those that plead wickedly for him Job 13. 8. That renders God to be more cruel to the Creatures that he hath made his own offspring Act. 17. 28 29. than any of the Creatures that he hath made which are naturally loving to their own yea more hard and cruel to his own offspring than the worst and most cruel of the Sons of Men more cruel and merciless than Pharaoh who laid heavy tasks on the Children of Israel requiring Brick without straw yet it 's apparent he thought it was possible for them to get straw and to make up their full tale of Brick for he said they were Idle by which it appears that he thought they might work the harder and do it Exod. 5. But this principle renders God not only to require Brick without straw but to require all Men every where to repent and believe the Gospel Act. 17. 30. Mar. 1. 15. and will damn them for not believing yet has allowed them no power so to do but Decreed the contrary In a word it renders the Holy and Good God who is Good to all to be worse to his own Creatures his own off-spring than it 's possible for the Devil to be who is the common Enemy of Mankind and goeth about like a roaring Lion seeking whom he may devour 1 Pet. 5. 8. But he can devour none but by temptations and delusions he can devour none without their own consent but this presents the Holy God by his Sovereign Will and Power to have devoured almost all Mankind by Eternal Decree that he made them for that very end Had they fixed such things on the Devil as they do on the Holy God they might have been credited had he power so to do but to render God to be worse to Men than it 's possible for the Devil to be is to be abhor'd of all that love and fear him therefore take heed and beware thereof He would be accounted no Man but worse than a Brute that would beget Children designedly to breed them up for the Gallows abhor such thoughts of God 4. Be encouraged from hence to believe and obey the Gospel that you may be saved and know and believe assuredly in so doing you shall be saved It 's the Sovereign Law of Christ your Lord which is unalterable Mar. 16. 15 16. He that believeth and is Baptized shall be saved Heb. 5. 9. He is become the Author of Eternal Salvation to all them that obey him this is the Gospel Law of Grace to Men against which there is nor can be no Decree 5. And finally be not afraid nor discouraged be not affrighted nor amazed with any amazement either as from God or Men in this matter 1. From God in the untrue representations of his Sovereign Power as if he would save and damn from his own Will as if he had reprobated the far greater part of Men to Eternal Perdition without hope or means of help an amazing Doctrine it is that hath sent many serious Souls with sorrow to their Graves and it 's to be feared hath sent many to Perdition but look up lift up your head and heart God has determined no Damnation to any Man but for sin as the deserving cause therefore believe and obey the Gospel and you shall be saved 2. Nor be afraid of Men in your Faithful following of your Lord the Sovereign Power and Providence is over you and for you Joh. 3. 31. He that cometh from above is above all therefore be not afraid of Men. Isa 51. 7 8. But sanctify the Lord of Hosts himself and let him be your fear and let him be your dread And he will be a Sanctuary unto you Isa 8. 11 12 13 He ruleth by his Power for ever his eyes behold the Nations therefore let not the Rebellious exalt themselves Psalm 66. 7. For the Rebellious shall dwell in a dry land Ps 68. 6. Zec. 14. 17. Isa 66. 24. CHAP. II. Treateth of Election Christ I Desire to enquire into the

that he called it his own throne he being to sit there but till his enemies be made his footstool that is till he come to his own throne and kingdom of which he is in Expectation Heb. 10. 13. yet in this his kingdom will the father reign in and by him 1 Cor. 15. 27 28. see this more full confession of faith pag. 35 36 37 38. 2. It shall be a visible kingdom dignity and glory his kingdom now is much invisible as to men his person altogether invisible and his government much vailed and hid from the world and but little thereof apprehended by and seen among his people but then it shall be an open visible and manifest Kingdom Government and Glory Rev. 1. 7. Isa 40. 5. 66. 18. 3. As it shall be visible so it shall be universal over all it 's true it shall be first and especially over the House of Israel Jer. 23. 5 6. Luk. 1. 32 33. but it shall likewise be over all the world that ever has been or shall be Dan 7. 14. Rev. 11. 15. Phi. 2. 9 10. and the whole creation restored Act. 3. 21. Rom. 8. 19 20 21. 4. And all shall be as the effect and fruit of his humiliation so that no kingdom and glory besides or short of this can possibly answer the end of his sufferings nor the design of God therein this being the glory designed by all the issue of all the prophecies and promises the fulfilling of the mystery of God designed and spoken of by the prophets Rev. 10 7 with chap. 11. 15. Act. 3. 21. and indeed the top glory of all the Gospel design and that relative both to the father and the son Phi. 2. 9 10 11. And therefore it 's ignorance in us to suppose that it tends to lessen his glory R●m 14. 9. Rev. 5. 13 14. it being the great glory designed as the fruit of his death and sufferings Isa 53. 12. Phi. 2. 9 10. and that he is in expectation of Heb. 10. 13. and mediating for Psa 2. 8 9. Christ If the Kingdom shall come to the House of Israel first and chiefly what great Advantage will it be to us Believers of the Gentiles and not by Nature of the House of Israel Min. Of great advantage to all true believers among the Gentiles who are by faith accounted for Abrahams Children the true seed and heirs according to Promise Gal. 3. 29. and so are intrusted in the same Promises in Christ by the Gospel Eph. ● 6. Christ As you have given your understanding about the World to come and the Kingdom of Christ therein the next thing I desire to enquire into is whether the World in General may be supposed to have any favour and blessing therein or only to be raised to Judgment and eternal Misery as is Commonly held Min. That there shall be by the Womans seed the seed of Abraham not only a special Salvation to some believers even among the Gentiles with Christ in Glory Who shall not come into Condemnation nor be hurt of the Second Death Joh. 5. 24. Rev. 2. 11. But a more General and Common Salvation of the World from the penal part of the Second Death in times to be Effected after they have past the Judgment and born their Punishment that the Generality both of Jews and Gentiles shall in time partake of a General and Common Salvation in the World to come is as great a truth and as fully and plainly stated in the Scriptures of truth as the Salvation of believers with Christ in Glory only let this be understood that I intend not all and every one but the Majority and Generality of the World wilful Transgressors that rebel against the Light especially against the Light of the Gospel I intend not Christ I desire you to give your Scripture grounds fully 1. For the General Salvation of the Jews if that be proved I suppose it will be a great Light and inlet to the Salvation of the World Min. That the Generality of the Natural seed of Israel shall be saved is most apparent from these Scripture grounds following 1. Because God always owned them for his own People as in the best so in their worst condition both of Sin and Judgment that he owned them for his own People and Portion that their provocations were the Provocations of his Sons and of his Daughters in their worst sinning state and he losed not his Propriety in them is most apparent Dent. 32. 19. Ps 81. 8. Hear O my People and I will testifie unto thee v. 11. But my People would not hearken to my voice Israel would none of me Isa 1. 3. Israel doth not know My People doth not consider and ch 58. 1. Shew my People their sins c. By all which it appears they were owned of God to be his own People his Sons and Daughters the Portion and lot of his Inheritance Deut. 32. 9. In their worst and sinning Estate and therefore tho he Judged and Punished them severely yet we have no ground to conclude that he will Eternally Damn them being his own People and so they own themselves to be Isa 64. 9. We are all thy People 2. He owned them for his own People when they were under his Judgment and Wrath for sin Ps 78. 62. He gave his People also to the Sword and was Wroth with his Inheritance v. 63 64. Isa 5. 13. Therefore my People are gone into Captivity because they have no knowledge ch 47. 6. Jer. 5. 7. Ezek. 21. 12. All fall to the same purpose so that notwithstanding their sin and Judgment yet they were still his People his Portion his Inheritance the pretious Sons of Sion Lam. 4. 2. The precious Sons of Sion comparable to pure Gold how are they esteemed as Earthen Vessels yea in and through all they were the beloved of his Soul Jer. 12. 7. I have forsaken mine House I have left mine Heritage I have given the dearly beloved of my Soul into the hand of her Enemies They were the Lords Heritage and dearly beloved Notwithstanding all their Sin and Judgment and this particular Interest and Relation that God still owned was from the Covenant of Election and choise that God made with their Fathers Exo. 32. 13. Ps 106. 45. Rom. 11. 27 28. And this Relation to God in their worst sinning and Judged Estate is owned and pleaded by the Prophet as personating them Isa 63. 16. Doubtless thou art our Father tho Abraham be Ignorant of us and Israel acknowledg us not yet thou O Lord art our Father See ch 64. 7 8 9. And we may safely conclude that God will never Eternally damn the precious Sons of Sion his own Children the dearly beloved of his Soul tho he severely punish them 3. Tho he made use of Instruments to punish them for their sins yet they doing of it cruelly and dispitefully he reproved them and Judged them for it it was not for doing thereof because appointed by

him but for their ill doing of it Isa 47. 6. 7. Amos. 1. 11. Ob. v. 10. to 15. Zec. 1. 15. 4. And after all and as an Effect of this continued Relation interest and pitty in and towards them he has made to them many great and precious promises of their return and Salvation in the times appointed and that to the very same sinning and Judged People the same that he owned loved and pittied when he Judged them for their sins and not only their seed or posterity that might be of them some Thousands of years after as has been Imagined but to the same People to whom the promises were made after he had recompensed them double for their sin Jer. 16. 16 17. 18. v. 14 15. is a promise of deliverance yea to all of them Ezek. 20. 40. For in mine Holy mountain in the mountain of the height of Israel saith the Lord shall the House of Israel all of them serve me ch 39. clears it so plain as may silence all Objections ch 36. 10. I will multiply men upon you all the House of Israel even all of it and ch 30 about this matter and that both as to the persons concerned and the time of Effecting thereof 1. The persons concerned and that is the same that fell by the Sword for their Iniquities v. 23. For their Iniquities so fell they all by the Sword v. 25. Now will I bring again the Captivity of Jacob and have mercy upon the whole House of Israel v. 26. After they have born their shame and all their Trespasses whereby they have Trespassed against me when they dwelt in their own Land and none made them afraid So that they are the very same People that sometimes dwelt safely in their own Land and for their sins were destroyed by the Sword and not their posterity only that never dwelt safely there that are here intended and this is remarkable that the promise is to the whole House of Israel not of Abraham nor of Isaac because Ishmael and Esau went out from thence but to the whole House of Israel whose whole posterity was under the Promise Gen. 26. 2 3 4. 2. And as for the time of this return and Salvation it shall be at and after the destruction of Gog. the last and great Enemy Ezek. 38 39 Chapters And of this Salvation we may see Amos 9. 3. Tho they be Sifted among all Nations yet not one Grain or stone shall be lost Hos 11. 10 11. Isa 43. 5 6 7. with many more which relates to this universal Salvation of Israel 5. And then it 's no marvel the Apostle saith Rom. 11. 26. That all Israel shall be saved Of which I have spoken in my Answer to Mr. Coxe ch 7. To which Salvation of all Israel not only all the Scriptures Mentioned agree but Isa 45. 17. Jer. 30. 10. c. Ezek. 37. 21 22 23. with many more to which Promises we may conclude the Apostle relates when he saith v. 27. This is my Covenant with them when I shall take away their sins this is the Covenant after they had born their Punishment for their sins Ezek. 16. 52 58. 37. 26. 6. This universal Salvation shall be after the Resurrection and Judgment is over or else it could not reach them all but it shall be when they are raised up and come all of them and in this the Scripture is as express as to the Salvation it self Isa 25. 8. The time when God will take away the rebuke of his People from off all the Earth is when he doth swallow up Death in victory Which words the Apostle applyeth to the Resurrection 1 Cor. 15. 54. Then shall he bring to pass that saying that is written Death is swallowed up in Victory Isa 26. 19 20 21. Thy dead Men shall live together with my dead Body shall they arise awake and sing ye that dwell in the dust for thy dew is as the dew of Herbs and the Earth shall cast out the dead ch 49. 6. It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my Servant to raise up the Tribes of Jacob and to restore the preserved or desolations of Israel And Ezek. 37. 10 11 14. and 39. 23 25. plainly declares the time thereof So Zech. 10. 9. They shall live with their Children and turn again So Hos 13. is 1. A discovery of their Sin and Judgment vers 2 to 9. 2. A promise of help vers 9 vers 10. I will be thy King c. But how can this be when he had destroyed them See the time when it should be vers 14. I will ransom them from the power of the Grave I will Redeem them from Death O Death I will be thy Plague O Grave I will be thy Destruction Repentance shall be hid from mine Eyes Here is an absolute promise to those People of which God will not repent and this Scripture the Apostle applyeth to the Salvation of all Israel Rom. 11. 29. The gifts and callings of God are without Repentance viz. He will never repent of the Promises and Salvation made to those People and the same Apostle applyeth the same Scripture to the Resurrection 1 Cor. 15. 54. All which makes Ezek. 37. 10 to 14. plain unto us So that the time of this general Salvation of all Israel is plainly and fully stated in the word of Truth to be at and after the Resurrection and Judgment when the deliverer shall come from God out of Sion and turn away ungodliness from Jacob this is the Covenant with them when he shall take away their sins Rom. 11 26 27. 1. To them then shall be Repentance for sin Ezek. 16. 61. Then shalt thou remember thy ways and be ashamed vers 63. That thou mayest remember and be confounded and never open thy mouth any more because of thy shame 20. 43. 36. 31. 2. To them then shall be purging and cleansing of sin Isa 1. 25. I will turn mine hand upon thee and purely purge away thy Dross and take away all thy sin ch 4. 4. When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the Daughter of Sion and shall have purged the Blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the Spirit of Judgment and by the Spirit of burning see ch 7. 9. Jer. 33. 8. Ezek. 36. 25 33. Joel 3. 21. Mal. 3. 2 3. 3. To them then shall be pardon of sin Isa 43. 25. I even I am he that blotteth out thy transgressions for mine own sake and will not remember thy sins Jer. 31. 34. I will forgive their iniquities and will remember their sins no more and 33. 8. I will pardon all their iniquities whereby they have sinned and whereby they have transgressed against me See Mic. ● 19 20. 4. And in this way of Repentance Pardon and Purging will God be pacified towards them Ezek. 16. 63. That thou mayest remember and be confounded and never open thy mouth any more because of thy shame