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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A77956	Something in answer to a book called Choice experiences, given forth by one J. Turner. Also the copy of a letter sent to the assembly of those that are called anabaptists in Newcastle. Wherein the simple minded ones may see the deceit of those people, who take up the practises of others, by imitation and tradition from the Scriptures, not having the same commands themselves, as the saints alwayes had, from the spirit of the Lord. And that Christ in the saints, which is their hope of glory, is the same Christ that was crucified by the Jews, who is the lambe slaine from the foundation of the world. Also the difference between the saints who waite on the Lord for the moving if his spirit to be acted, when, and as he please; and formalists of these dayes, who in their owne wills and time practice their imitations of duties and ordinances, which the Lord abhorres. By a servant of the Lord, named of the world Edward Burrough.	Burrough, Edward, 1634-1662.	1654 (1654)	Wing B6025; Thomason E816_2; ESTC R207361	11,095	15

Something in Answer to a Book called CHOICE EXPERIENCES Given forth by one J. TVRNER Also the Copy of a Letter sent to the Assembly of those that are called Anabaptists in Newcastle Wherein the simple minded ones may see the deceit of those people who take up the practises of others by imitation and tradition from the Scriptures not having the same commands themselves as the Saints alwayes had from the spirit of the Lord. And that Christ in the Saints which is their hope of glory is the same Christ that was crucified by the Jews who is the Lambe slaine from the foundation of the World Also the difference between the Saints who waite on the Lord for the moving if his Spirit to he acted when and as he please And Formalists of these dayes who in their owne wills and time practice their imitations of Duties and Ordinances which the Lord abhorres By a Servant of the Lord named of the World Edward Burrough Printed in the Year of the worlds accompt 1654. I Have met with a Book called Choyce experiences given forth by one I Turner who by John Spilsbery in his Epistle is called a Daughter of Syon and her selfe declareth in the 109. pag. of her Booke of being brought out of Babylon into Syon but all along through her Booke her language is one and the same before her comming out of Babylon and in Syon as she saith her language is the language of Babylon wholly and she is yet a servant in bondage in Babylon unto the Mistresse of Witchcraft and never came to witnesse freedom in Syon for I know her voyce it s the language of her City where she now dwells which is in confusion in Babylon And whereas she declares of some particulars which she calls Deceits whereby she was deceived in the 109 pag. in that which she calls the fifth note of experience concerning notions and pretended spiritualities in which Satan transformes himselfe into an Angel of light and how the Lord was pleased to recover her out of deceit I answer It is plain to the spirituall man which discernes of truth and deceit that she is yet deceived and unrecovered out of deceit and here I charge her that she belves the Lord for he hath not recovered her out of deceit for she hath 〈◊〉 him in that work as is made appeare in her Book and she is now in notion and not in power and in pretended spiritualities and not really in the spirit and Satan is now transformed in her into an Angel of light by which she is deceived and whereas she talkes of her choyce experiences death yet raignes in her and is no whi● subdued I speake as in the presence of the Lord who am moved to lay open her deceit to the simple who doth blaspheme the God of Heaven in his Saints in calling truth error and calling that deceit which by the spirit of the Lord I owne to be truth and calls those corrupt principles which was owned by the servants of the Lord in former generations and which is owned now by them which witnesse the same spirit which spirit of Christ she makes appeare she knowes not who hath de●yed him and salvation by him within Whereas she speaks of Satan envying her happinesse and waits his opportunity to catch her as a Fish in the Water covering his hooke with a baite of Mystery and spiritually I answer She is yet in the power of Satan he hath already catched her with his covered hooke which is covered with a very faire outside a faire forme of truth a likenesse of it with the likenesse of a Church and of a Baptisme and of a Fellowship c. is she beguiled already and is unhappy through the opportunities which the Devil hath wayted over her for she is under the curse lying in the fall and enmity And whereas she speaks Of having of es●a●ed him in his former appearances as a Devill yet now transforme himselfe a an ●ngel of light I answer She hath not escaped him as a Devill and here she is a lyer for his appearance 〈◊〉 her in ly ng and in speaking evill of those things she know●s no● and he is transformed in her as an Angel of light but she 〈…〉 but lyes in darkenesse in the my fiery of in●●●ty 〈…〉 and the pretence of spirituality And she 〈◊〉 〈…〉 are so deceived are the fittest Agenes to prome●● 〈◊〉 K●●g●●m●● I answer Here it is made manifest she who 〈…〉 Devill doth much promote his Kingdome 〈…〉 hands of evill doers who through her 〈…〉 hearts against the truth Whereas she speaks O● 〈…〉 ●●●ing persons by corrupt principles which they would 〈…〉 at the thought of before they had such principles I answer ●●●is is her own condition she is drawn by Satan to follow 〈…〉 principles which if she did see she would tremble at 〈…〉 of them And she saith God was not onely pleased to 〈…〉 from such things but to discover the wa● by which person 〈◊〉 brought to such things I answer Here againe I charge her that she belies the Lord which is blasphemy for he hath not 〈◊〉 her from corrupt principles he would but she hath refi●●ed him and the discovery from God to her will be pl●gr●● and woe for death and darknesse raigne● which makes manifest themselves in her which is her discovery She speak 〈◊〉 avoyding those wayes and forewarning others to avoyd them likewise I answer She hath not avoyded the waves of darkenesse but hath chosen them and hath avoyded the way of truth as is made manifest which hath dented salvation by Christ within and as she hath avoyded the way of truth her selfe so she casts a stumbling-blocke in the way of the simple to a avoyd it likewise Whereas she speaks of discovering Satan under these vayles and saith by harkening to the voyce of the tempter she was deceived and beguiled by him in some perticular things I answer Satan is not yet discovered to her but lyes under his vayle in Flesh deceiving her and by her hearkening to the voyce of the tempter she is now deceived by him not in few things but in many I speake it as in the presence of the Lord which shall judge of her and me And she speaks of ever being humbled in the presence of God for it I answer When the dreadfull God shews his presence she cannot stand but shall be confounded who doth here speake to the dishonour of his name True humility she knowes not for the man of sin is exalted in her above all that is called God And whereas she speaks of beginning to be somewhat confused in her iudgement and she speaks of not being swallowed up with confusion I answer She is in confusion and hath never been out of it as to every single eye may appeare she is not somewhat in confusion but is rowled and swallowed up in it and it is long since it began in her Whereas she speaks of being weake in Principles I answer

It is true the Principle which is of God is and hath been weake in her for it is over-powred by the Principle of deceit which is not weake but strong and which rules and guydes her in her own will Whereas she speaks of being with a people and by them being deceived in some perticular things naming onely three things the first whereof is That godlinesse being a Mystery that it did consist of something within and not of something without and that the Saints were to expect life and salvation from a Christ within and not from a Christ without I answer Godlinesse is a mystery the Image of God which is godlinesse is a mystery hidden from the eye of I. Turner and from all vulterous eyes and this mystery is within in life and power consisting of the new man Christ Jesus who is the Image of God made manifest within the saints in whose Image man is like God godly and this mystery is not in outward things in word or declaration or outward practice though where this mystery is made manifest godly practises will flow from it to without but yet the power life and mystery of godlinesse is within and cannot be seen with the carnall eye nor comprehended with the carnall minde And here I charge I. Turner in the presence of God that she knowes not the mystery of Godlinesse who blasphemously calls this a corrupt Principle and here it is made manifest that she is in Babylon yet and is deceived and bewitched by the Devill I beare witnesse to the truth and to this particular and against her who denyes it And the saints hath life and salvation from Christ made manifest within which is the same Christ which suffered without and this I affirme that till Christ be revealed within there is no salvation nor life partaked of The Scripture saith they were reprobates in whom Christ was not And the Apostle said Christ in you the hope of glory and Christ lived in him which was his life and salvation Where Christ is not made manifest within the Serpent is Head and the Devill is King in the heart and this I witnesse and doth declare it as in the presence of God that t●ll Christ was made manifest within me I was not saved nor had n●●lig●●s to God though I was high in profession and Knowled●● outwardly And here againe I Turner h●th shewed 〈…〉 blindnesse and sottishnesse to all and may 〈…〉 and confesse that she is a be nos●●●e in Bab●●● 〈…〉 a corrupt Principle which is the very power 〈…〉 Religion and salvation which is Christ Jesus wi●h 〈…〉 ●●●fest in the saints which takes away sinn and 〈…〉 Werkes of the Devill and she and all others wh● w●l●es and 〈◊〉 the flesh following the lusts and desire● of it living 〈…〉 own wills in the broad way and talkes of salvation by 〈◊〉 thing without will be deceived for nothing wil● pre●●nt 〈◊〉 b●t the righteousnesse of Jesus Christ revealed which takes away sinne and sets free from it And now for the second Principle That Saints were not to doe duties by or from a command without but from a command within and that the Word command in Scripture was not a command to them till they had a Word within them I answer That is no command from God to me what he commands to another neither did any of the saints which we reade of in Scripture act by the command which was to another not having the command to themselves I challenge to finde an example to it they obeyed every one their own command one was sent to Baptisme and to Preach the Gospel another was sent not to Baptise but to Preach the Gospel And thou I. Turner or any other who goes to duty as you call it by imitation from the Letter without which was commands to others in your own wills and time your sacrifice is not excepted but is abomination to the Lord for you goe without the moving of the spirit in your own wills and strength which God hates and which his wrath is upon And I charge her here as in the presence of the Lord that she knowes not what a command from God in spirit is but is ignorant and not a daughter of Syon and let her mouth be stopped and let shame strike her in the Face who professes her selfe to know the Lord and let all be ashamed of her who proferses themselves members joyned with her in Church she hath made manifest the ignorance of them all Now for the third particular That as to the time of doing duties they were to waite for the moving of the spirit to carry them forth to it and this they called Wayting for a power and till they had such a power they were to doe nothing but sit still and waite and this not onely in private duties but in church also not owning any Ministery by way of g●fts of Office but to come together and there sit st●ll and waite t●ll they had a power and then to speake whether man or woman I answer Who dare call this a Principle of deceit none but who are led by deceit and such is I. Turner who puts light for darkenesse and darkenesse for light all duties as she calls them whatsoever if the moving of the spirit doe not carry forth to act them then the movings of the corrupt will and vaine mind carries forth and who act from such Principles are accursed from God And I. Turner and all who denyes to waite for the moving of the power of the spirit to carry forth but goes before the moving of it all their Prayers Preachings Ordinances and Churches I doe deny and declare against by the Eternall spirit of God they are odious and abomination in the eye of the Lord and is no duty which he accepts whether they be done in private or in the Church And that Ministery which is not carried forth by the moving of the spirit of God but of man and in the will of man which ministery is hated of God and she which denyes wayting upon God till power be given in from God to act and speake for God hath denyed the way of God and the practice of the saints in former generations and woe is unto her which makes the simple beleeve this to be deceit whereas she saith in these particulars which carryed such a face or shew of spirituality she was corrupted but did never fully own them in judgement nor practice I answer O blinde deceived spirit which calls these but a shew or face of spirituality she calls the substance a shew and the shew or likenesse a substance And woe unto her which calls good evill and evill good these particulars by the eternall-spirit I owne and warke in but that spirit of deceit and Anti-Christ in her hath denyed them and calls them deceiveable and saith by them she was corrupt let her be ashamed and all of her faction it was the Principle which led her from these things by which