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A08773 Two briefe treatises The one containing matter of perswasion and expostulation concerning catechisme with certaine positions of like consideration. The other, touching peace betweene the minister and his people: as likewise the lawfulnesse, and dutie of the ministers presenting (if need require) outward disobedience vnto his ministerie. C. P., fl. 1616. 1616 (1616) STC 19059; ESTC S120093 15,965 59

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such persons which hauing not before yeelded vnto the Church an account of their faith may by good probabilitie bee deemed ignorant The Ministers labour with the peoples renitencie and slumber of gouernment in the former considered the reason is plaine why in the Church are many Preachers and few Catechists A BRIEFE TREATISE TOVCHING Peace betweene the Minister and his people as likewise the lawfulnes and duty of the Ministers presenting if neede require outward disobedience vnto his Ministery SWeete sayth one is the name of peace and the thing it selfe comfortable and wee all say Peace is precious Most true if in God Such peace between men is indeede precious pleasant beautifull blessed The Prophet in the Psalm a Psal 133. celebrating this peace so speaketh of it Behold how good and pleasant a thing it is brethren to dwell together in vnitie It is like the precious ointment vpon the head that ran downe vnto the heard euen vnto Aarons beard and went downe to the skirts of his clothing b Exod. 30.23 like as the dew of Hermon which fell vpon the Hill of Sion For there Where euen where is this vnitie there the Lord promiseth his blessing and life for euermore But peace or vnitie betweene men and not in GOD is nothing but a conspiracie against GOD. This peace if it continue hath no blessing but a curse no promise or assurance of life but death and that for euermore Thus then the people of a parish liueth in the ignorance of GOD. And the Minister for peace sake leaueth them so and they are both agreed What peace is this surely not of GOD but of the enemy of men yea of GOD Who willeth all men to bee saued and come vnto the knowledge of the truth c 1. Tim. 2.4 Here then for Minister and people if they will bee blessed this peace must be broken Here is a wonderfull stirre towards for let the case be The Minister by the grace of GOD d Ierem. 1.17 Amos 3.8 in the loue of GOD e Ioh. 21.15.16.17 of the peoples and his owne saluation f 1. Tim. 4.16 desireth and endeuoreth to bring the people to the knowledge of GOD. The people by perswasion of the flesh the world and the deuill will not be brought no not to heare the word of saluation Here one against many how shall he preuaile I answere presuming yet of outward hearing though by compulsion of which afterwards wee speake two wayes by Offer and Operation By offer of the meanes If thou warne the wicked saith GOD by the Prophet and hee turne not from his wickednesse nor from his wicked way hee shall die in his iniquitie but thou hast deliuered thy soule By Operation of the word and worke of his Ministerie which is neuer frustrate And of this reioyceth the Apostle Now thankes bee vnto God saith hee which alwaies maketh vs to triumph in Christ and maketh manifest the sauour of his knowledge by vs in euerie place For wee are vnto God the sweete sauour of Christ in them that are saued and in them that perish To the one wee are the sauour of death vnto death and vnto the other the sauour of life vnto life h 2. Cor. 2.14.15.16 If then in this battaile he saue himselfe and of the people he saue some appointed to life and destroy other appointed to perish himselfe resting in the fauour of GOD i Isa 49.4 doth he not preuaile no doubt hee doth and that greatly But now further to behold this fight and namely in the meanes of saluation offered by the word and worke of the Ministerie which is performed towards all publikly towards some in speciall neede priuately for the publike performance it is in publike place by Prayer Preaching administration of Sacraments and Catechisme The people flie from this meanes the Minister charged by GOD pursueth them at home with all instance I charge thee saith Paul to Timothie before God and before the Lord Iesus Christ which shall iudge the quick and dead at his appearing and in his Kingdome preach the Word be instant in season and out of season improue rebuke exhort with all long suffering and doctrine k 2. Tim. 4.2 And needing helpe hee runneth to the rod of the Churches discipline for saith Christ in like case but lesse matter then this in regard of circumstance If hee heare not them tell the Church l Matth. 18.17 whose hand is or ought to bee readie and held out for doing good herein Foolishnesse saith Salomon is bound vp in the heart of the childe but the rod of discipline will driue it away from him m Prou. 22.15 And heere is no sparing of Agag * 1. Sam. 15.23 no carnall respects must here preuaile but the great and small are both alike I charge thee sayth Paul to Timothie before God and before the Lord Iesus Christ and the elect Angels that thou obserue these things without preferring one to another and doe nothing partially n 1. Tim. 5.21 Here is the Ministers warrant for presentment in this kind namely touching outward obedience to his Ministerie not onely sealed and confirmed by authority of the Church o Can. 1.13 and positiue Law of the Christian Magistrate p Ann. Ias. 3. c. 4. but euen singularly to bee approued of in it selfe First for the proper good of those against whom if need require proceedeth this information Secondly for the good of others And thirdly and lastly for the glory of God And in the former branch as also in the first setting downe of this Discourse I purposely adde this limitation if neede require for I freely confesse that all must bee assayed on the Ministers behalfe by paines by patience by a discreet and most meeke manner of teaching and humilitie in the lowest degree to worke obedience at home and yet such humilitie a being mixed and tempered with grace and grauitie may be fitte 〈◊〉 vphold and mainetaine the authoritie and reuerence of his place and calling as Paul willeth Titus to looke to this These things sayth he speake and exhort and conuince with all authoritie See that no man despise thee q Tit. 2.15 and yet also I say againe euen such humilitie as stoopeth to the lowest for the good of others such as not onely Paul the Apostle submitted himselfe vnto where hee sayeth I am made all things to all men that I might by all means saue some r 1. Cor. 9.22 but also because it is exemplified vnto vs by a great King may the better bee obeyed and yeelded vnto of all that are lesser then Kings and it is King Dauid whome of I speake who being by his proud prophane and most vngodly wife derided for his zealous act of Religion before the Arke of God thus mildly answered It was before the Lord which chose me rather then thy Father and all his house and commanded mee to bee Ruler ouer the people of the Lord euen