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A00919 A Catholike confutation of M. Iohn Riders clayme of antiquitie and a caulming comfort against his caueat. In which is demonstrated, by assurances, euen of protestants, that al antiquitie, for al pointes of religion in controuersie, is repugnant to protestancie. Secondly, that protestancie is repugnant particularlie to al articles of beleefe. Thirdly, that puritan plots are pernitious to religion, and state. And lastly, a replye to M. Riders Rescript; with a discouerie of puritan partialitie in his behalfe. By Henry Fitzimon of Dublin in Irland, of the Societie of Iesus, priest.; Catholike confutation of M. John Riders clayme of antiquitie. Fitzsimon, Henry, b. 1566.; Rider, John, 1562-1632. Rescript.; Rider, John, 1562-1632. Friendly caveat to Irelands Catholicks. 1608 (1608) STC 11025; ESTC S102272 591,774 580

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holinesse it selfe the holier by your crossing but I hope you will not take blessing in this sence but ioyne with the Disciples and vs that blessing of GOD signifieth praising of GOD or praying to GOD for one man to blesse another is nothing else but to praye for them and to beseech God that he would blesse them that is defend them protect them and be mercifull vnto them So Isaack blessed Iacob and Iacob the sonnes of Ioseph And so the LORD commaunded Moises to speake to Aaron and to his Sonnes saying Thus shall yee blesse the children of Israel and say vnto them The Lord blesse thee and keepe thee the Lord make his face to shine vpon thee and be mercifull vnto thee c. A Christian patterne not onelie for Priests but also for Pastours and Parents dailie to practise the one for his flocke the other for his familie yet both in the Lord from the Lord. Which blessings are deriued from Gods mercies hang not on the ends of Priests fingers Again you see blessing is praying with the mouth not crossing with the fingers as you vainlie foolishlie make your Ghostlie childrē beleeue that if you crosse them with your two fingers and a thumbe they are pardoned for their sinnes past and preserued that day from future daungers and euil spirits Which fingered blessing of yours is as powerfull to pardon sinne and feare away spirits as three sups of the Challice is to cure the chinne-cough This blessing was commaunded by God to be practised by Aaron the High-Priest and the rest of the Priests vpon Gods children but how far your blessing differs from this the simplest may iudge For first God commaunded this blessing the Pope your blessings This was by mouth onely yours with some mumbling wordes and charming crosses with your fingers This blessing was a prayer to desire God to blesse and you teach that in your breath and fingers there is a power a certain working or impression of some blessing vpon them by meanes of your said mumbling and crossing But your Priests agree with Gods Priests and your blessing with fingers with Gods Priests blessings with prayer of the heart and mouth euen as well as trueth and falsehood light and darknesse superstition and religion Christ and Belial And if the Catholiques will but diligently read this commandement of GOD giuen to the High-Priest and Priests in this place touching the manner how they should blesse Gods people I am resolued that few Catholiques in this kingdome heereafter will kneele at your feet or beg at your hand any finger benediction or crossing because is hath no warrant from Gods word and therefore ten thousand of them not worth a farthing How the Priests blesse the Sacrament You crosse the cup or Challice with a set number of crosses and gestures sometimes blowing ouer the Chalice sometimes crossing it sometimes hiding it that none must see it then ioyning and disioyning of your thumbe and two fingers with manie moe such Apish toies childish trickes and charming prankes which haue neither foundation nor relation to Christs actions and institution How the Preachers of the gospell blesse the bread the cup. But we in administring this holy Sacrament confesse the greatnesse and grieuousnesse of our sinnes that can no otherwise bee pardoned but in Christes bloudie and bitter passion and wee giue thankes to God for Christs blessed obedience to the shamefull death of the cursed crosse by which he hath satisfied Gods wrath and wrought our reconciliation in the bloud of the same and continue this Sacrament as he instituted and commaunded in reuerence and rememberance thereof without addition alteration or subtraction And pray that our vnworthinesse and want of faith hinder not our spirituall vnion reall presence with Christ which is offered in the word of institution and sealed in the right receiuing of the Sacrament This is the force and effect of this word Blesse the true vse wherof Christ by his practize deliuered the Primitiue Church Fathers and we imitate Now whether your blessing in the Sacrament and your blessing by crossing the people or ours come neerer to Gods word and Christs practize let the best minded to Gods truth iudge and then with GODS trueth ioyne Thus much for your Addition misunderstanding and misapplication Now to your Omission or Subtraction of a whole verse Omission or Subtraction You bring for proofe of your carnall presence the 26. verse and the 28. verse Caluin procedeth further Caluin 1. Cor. 10.16 Iewell cō Hard. art 1. diuis 9. pa. 23. confuting Erasmus and all others who indeuoure to confound as all one blessing and giuing thanks Iewell telleth that the meaning of Christs woords Hoc facite is take ye bread blesse it breake it and giue it in my remembrance Now to my thinking reason would haue aduised our aduersaries to haue made a clean contrary inference that yf the greeke vsual woord 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to giue thanks be some time and especialy in our controuersie taken to blesse that the propre woord to blesse especialy to so solemne a ceremonie ought not to be taken only to giue thancks Somewhat also must be said of the blessing by making Crosses least M. Rider applaud to him selfe for not haueing disaduantage in any thing he hath propounded First then euen by Scripturs is it manifest that when the angels were commanded to marke Gods especial elected Ezech. 9.4 Niceph. l. 2. c. 42. Basil l. de Spiritu sancto c. 27. Tertull. l. de corona militis Athanas l. de incarnat verbi Hieron ep ad Demetriadē epist 128. August tra 18. in Ioan. Cyrill 4. Catech. Illuminat Chrysost hom 21. 27. 36. ad pop Antioch Ambros. Serm. 45. August serm 19. de Sanctis Idem trac 118. in Ioā vide Gretserū de Cruce l. 3. c. 6. Hieron ad Pam. ad Rustic in vita Hilarion Antonij August epist. 59. lib. 22. de ciu c. 8. Beda in hist Augl l. 3. c. 26. the marke or character to haue bene the leter thau or our leter T. in their forheads which is a perfect Crosse to all mens eyes Also by relation of Nicephorus of S. Ihon Euangelist Vbi se signo crucis muniuisset in monumentum descendit When he had fortified him selfe with the signe of the Crosse he discended into the monument S. Basil and Tertullian affirme to make the signe of the Crosse to be an Apostolical tradition Tertullian Athanase Hierome Augustin Cyrill of Hierusalem Chrysostom Ambrose and all Fathers without exception doe exhort and aduise all Christians at rising appareilling washing sitting eating at euery action and tyme to arme them selues with the signe of the Crosse as propre to Christians Wherof saith S. Augustin Hoc ad victoriam prouehit hoc veneficia destruit omnia daemonum machinamenta ad nihilum redigit this aduaunceth our victorie this distroyeth witchcraft and frustrateth all attempts of the deuil Without which saithe
vntrulie teach Thirdlie I obserue that he confuted by the example of bread and wine in the Sacrament certaine Heretickes who held that Christs bodie was changed into his deitie after his ascention for this is the Fathers proofe against those heretickes Either aunswere this fully or confesse the truth That as bread and wine are trulie bread and wine after sanctification as they were before sanctification euen so is Christs bodie as trulie a bodie now after his ascention as it was before his ascention So now the Priests of new Rome cannot say that the bread and wine haue lost their true natures and properties in the Lords supper after sanctification vnlesse they will also say with the Heretickes that Christ hath lost the nature of a true bodie now after his ascention And Chrysostome seconds Theodoret saying Chrisost ad Caesariū Monach. Marck this well yee Pre●sts Iesuits Ante sanctificationem c. Before it be sanctified we cal it bread but the deuine grace once sanctifying it by the ministrie of the Priest it is deliuered from the name of bread and counted worthy to be called the Lords body though the nature of bread continue there still Out of which I note first the father calles it sanctification not consecration Secondly it is called bread before sanctification is bread in nature after sanctification And thirdly after sanctification it is called the Lords body yet it is not the Lords body in deede because the nature of bread remaines VVhat can you saye to these pregnāte proofes to satisfie the doubtfull Catholiques And therefore in that it is called the Lords body it must be so Sacramentally figuratiuely improperly And Gelasius your owne Pope whom you dare not contradict saith plainely Non desinit esse substantia panis vel natura vini There seaceth not to be the substance of bread and the nature of wine Of the Circumcisions being called the Couenant And the Paschal Lambs being called the Passouer as yf the B. Sacrament no otherwyse is to be called the bodie of Christ. 62. FIrst in this discours M. Rider dealeth frendly with me Fitzimon and fraudulently with others Frendly in obiecting against my profession a stale obiection that Circumcision is called the Couenant and in affoording to me an aunswer to auoyd it that in the same place it is called a signe of the Couenant So that I need not trouble my selfe for other aunswer such exposition being conioyned with the obiection and no such in the Sacrament against which it is brought but rather many contrary clauses testifying it not to be only a signe Fraudulently in affirming that one aunswer will resolue both questions in heaping diuers dissonant maters as consonant in wreasting and peruerting Scriptures For the first one aunswer can not resolue both Circumcision being called a Couenant and the exposition being conioyned to such tearming therof only as being a signe Wheras in the B. Sacrament nether is ther any such exposition conioyned nether can the woords adioyned be vnderstood of a signe that it is the bodie which was to be deliuered and the blood which was to be shedde For what infidelitie were it to affirme a signe of Christs bodie to be deliuered for our redemption and a signe of his blood to be shedd for the remission of our synns A heaping of dissonant maters is perceaued when it is affirmed that the Paschal Lamb was a signe of the Passeouer as Circumcision of the Couenant For nether scripture reason not resemblance doth accompt the Lamb a signe of the passeouer Yf it had bene sayd to haue bene a solemnitie in memorial of the benifit or protection shewed toward the Iewes it might haue passed but to affirme it to be a tropical signe therof is a fowle wreasting of Scriptures Now it also hath a clause conioyned therwith importing that it was Victima transitus Domini the sacrifice of the passing of our Lord and therfor is distinguished from being the very passing it selfe which is otherwyse obserued as I sayd in the B. Sacrament These obiections being then to no purpose in our purpose they also are odious by their first authour to such their application Zuinglius him selfe confesseth the authour in these woords That he haueing preached how the woord is in this is my bodie Zuingl tom 2. in subsid de Eucharistia fol. 249. stood for it signifieth The Notarie in the Senat of two hondred excepted that howsoeuer such glosse might stand in parables it could not stand in Sacraments He troubled with such a replye went to bed At midnight an Aduiser whom he knew not whether he was black or whyte his language and discourse will easelie disguise what angel he was sayd VVhy thow Dunse aunswer out of Exod 12. v. 11. Est enim phase id est transitus Domini it is the paschal that is the passing of the Lord. The conclusion now is that yf this were a good angel Zuinglius must be confessed a Dunse Yf a badd angel I would wish all honest Protestants to be no longer disciples to his doctrin Howsoeuer good or badd nether ought he to be able to seduce vs from the doctrin we haue receaued nor is ther any material force in his obiection against vs vnaunswered But at the woords following Christians stopp your cares That Baptisme is not the fountayne of regeneration Tit. 3. but only an outward Signe therof and that to the faythfull O pestiferous puritantcie Could not S. Paul bridle you from ryding against his expresse testimonie that we are saued by the lauer of regeneration Could not the maiestie of Gods sacred woord Mat. 3.11 Mar. 1.8 Luc. 3.16 Ioa 1 32 Acts. 2.38 Mar. 16. euery where extant hinder you from euacuating also that Sacrament It which bringeth the holy Ghost It which giueth remission of synns it which besyd beleefe is necessarie for remission of synns and eternal lyfe It by which and the woord of lyfe we are clensed Acts. 2.37 38. c. 22.17 1. Pet. 3.21 from synn and saued as truly as Noe and his familie was saued by the arke and water supporting it But of this God willing in the 122. number and els wher Vide num 36. when I proue M. Rider a profund puritan Wherof also not a litle is forspoken in the 39. number wher is demonstrated these very two sacraments only left to be esteemed forcelesse At least this counterpoint to Gods woord in making Baptisme no regeneration but a naked signe therof is the 52. vntrueth The 52 vntruth The testimonie of S. Augustin is Ridericaly also interpreted By the first note he maketh sacraments for hauing similitude with that they signifie such as Christs bodie and bread by nourrishing and Christs Passion and Baptisme haue by clensing to be nothing els but similituds only and not the things them selues Which yf it were true Christ being sayd in Scripture Sap. 1.2 Cor. 4. Hebr. 1. Coloss 1. to be the image or lykenes of
the administration of the Cupp didst not thow command thy collegue or compartner that in the face of the congregation he showld take the cupp from me by force And for that cause did not I howld it fast and with bothe my hands I know that others will lawgh at this disordre but I had rather haue them lament that in all this dissolut or disioynted glosse M. Rider the woords of Christs institution Hoc est corpus meum quod pro vobis tradetur c. this is my body which shal be deliuered for you c. can not be perceaued but in lieu therof our Lord and Saluiour is made to tripp from mater to mater without any one sillable to our purpose in question Wher is here shewed that bread after consecration remayneth still bread Wher is the satisfaction by the Euangelists and S. Paul that we must relye vnto in spyte of Pope and poperie What marrow or substance is in thes woords for any other then for a single Sintaxian to know that dedit and Fregit be actiue verbs and Datur and Frangitur be passiue c. For breuities sake I will not repeat the dismal hate of thes reformers against the woords of Christs institution which I haue alredy amply prosecuted in the 68. numbre yet will I not omitt Luthers verdict against his brethren saying they feare Luther tom 7. defen verb. caena fol. 383. least they should stumble and breake their necks at euery sillable which Christ pronownced And this maketh them range abowt through all the parts of learning and not to come to any issue in the mayne point of his sacred institution truely fullfilling the saying of the royal Prophet Psal 11. impij in circuitu ambulant the wicked wander in a circuit and lyke serpents troden on the heads or henns whose neckes are newly crackt they wreath and wrest vp and downe in manifould skippings spending wasting their small tyme to liue which by being quiet might some what longer continue Rider 78. Thus you see how distinctlie Christ disioynes them sundring them with their seuerall properties Bread and wine remain after consecration by Christ his testimony therefore transubstansiation is a forged and false fable inuēted by new Rome to support your new heresies of Christs carnall presence the signe from the thing signified not confounding them as you vntrulie teach yea after that Christ vttered hoc est corpus meum which you call your consecration Now let vs compare the phrase and words that the holie Ghost vseth in both the new Testament the old and then you will say they are so like that they are rather borrowed of the old testament then instituted in the new and of necessitie seeing they are both Sacraments of like words ordained by one Author to one end they must needs haue one sence so that the one will best expound the other the one being Sacramentall and relatiue the other cannot be Grammaticall and proper As it is said in the old (a) Gen. 17.10 Testament of the sacrament of circumcition hoc est pactum meū this is my couenant So it is said in the new (b) Math. 26.26 Testament by the same spirit hoc est corpus meum this is my bodie but as by those words like to these in sillables sound and sence there was no transubstansiation of the peece of flesh of the foreskin that was cut off into Gods couenant made with his Church so there is no naturall nor miraculous chaunge made of anie part of the bread or wine into Christs bodie and bloud Exod. 12. 1. Cor. 11.24 Exod. 24 8. And as it was said of the Paschall Lambe hoc erit vobis in memoriam this shall be to you a rememberance so it is said of the Lords Supper Doe this in rememberance of me And as it was said in the olde Testament hic est sanguis faederis This is the bloud of the couenant yet was not the couenant but à signe of the couenant Luc. 22.20 So is it said by Christ himselfe This cup is the new Testament in my bloud yet the cup was neither the Testament nor the bloud but a signe representation and rememberance of Christs bloud And the new Testament is an obligation or bond wherein God for his part binds himselfe with most sure couenaunts and seales it with word oath and Sacraments that hee will receiue into his protection and fauor the beleeuer and penitent And the beleeuer repentant of their parts binde themselues by like indented couenants to performe vnto his sacred Maiestie Rom. 1.5 a liuelie steadfaste faith with holy obedience Now the cup or the wine in the cup is a representation or commemoration vnto vs of this couenant of grace made in the newe Testament as the Paschall Lambe and the bloud of beasts were signes of Gods couenaunt in the old Testament This may suffice for the plaine and true vnderstanding of these words this is my bodie and this is my bloud beeing expounded according to the holie scriptures Now to your first proofe out of saint Paul Fitzsimon 78. It is an easie mater vpon all the premisses to tell vs You see you see when nothing is giuen to be seene but gross impietie futilitie I admonished you deere Readers that Reformers conceaued a Vatinian hatred against Christs institution Wil you now behowld a liuely demonstration therof First he saythe that the phrase and woords vsed therin is no new institution but borrowed owt of the owld testament Secondly that the Sacraments of the owld testament and new are so lyke as they must haue one ende and sence and the one not to be literal more then the other It is to be remembred which is mentioned in the 36. and 63. numbers that by Reformers opinion ther is noe more benifit by Christs Sacrament of the Altar then by the Iewish ceremonies which according to their translation Sainct Paul saith to haue bene only bare Galat. 4.9 and beggerly ordonances I request all curteouse readers to spare me the payne to relate the substance of such numbers in this place and that they will not proceed further vntill they haue perused what ther is fownd First then I aunswer that yf by similitud of speeche vsed in the figure and the thing figured should be gathered that they bothe were of equal sence ende and literalitie it would followe that all figurs of Christ in the owld testament were equal with Christ himselfe that the owld testament is as behooful as the new Note because they haue one authour one sence one ende one phrase and one literalitie accordinge to M. Rider Wherefore since Ioseph in the owld testament was called Saluator mundi the Saluioure of the world Genes 41.45 Ioan. 4.42 and Christ in the same Phrase by S. Ihon is called Saluator mundi they must haue on ende one sence one literalitie And therfor as Ioseph was noe