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A89681	An apology for the discipline of the ancient Church: intended especially for that of our mother the Church of England: in answer to the Admonitory letter lately published. By William Nicolson, archdeacon of Brecon.	Nicholson, William, 1591-1672.	1658 (1658)	Wing N1110; Thomason E959_1; ESTC R203021	282,928	259

pious performances as stinted worship Quiristers singing of Psalms with all the Rubrique postures I could forgive you the rest because you acknowledge these performances to be pious for if they had piety in them I see no reason why you or any body else have cause to note them for corruptions But when I came to this place I entred into debate with my self which part of Solomons counsel I should take whether I should answer or not answer Not to answer Dr. Bancroft Featly Hammond Fulke Taylour Hooker Prideaux Preston might give you occasion to boast I could not And to answer was to say over again that which hath been so often sayd by worthy and learned men whom if you have not consulted you are to blame and I wish you would if you have and are not satisfied I fear my labour will be lost However I shall set before you what they have said before me And first I shall speak to your stinted worship 1. And here give me leave first to ask you to what you referre this word stinted whether you strictly restrain it to the word worship or to the Spirit by which we are to worship If to the first I see you are against all set forms of worship if to the last that you think the Spirit is restrained by these set forms And because both are said by your party I shall answer to both and to the last first These conceiv'd forms are either premeditate or extempore if premeditate then the Spirit is as much limited in their conceiv'd forms as by any forme conceiv'd by the Church But if extempore then the Spirit only of him that makes the prayer is left at liberty for the whole Congregation is by that means as much stinted and bound to a set forme to wit of those words the Minister conceivs as if he read them out of a book And is not the Spirit restrain'd when the Congregation shall be confined to the forme of this one mans composing If this be not stinted worship if this be not to stint the Spirit I know not what it is And I can see but one way to avoid it that every one in the Congregation conceive and offer up a prayer with his own spirit and not be forced and confin'd to the Ministers single dictate this would preserve entirely that liberty of the Spirit you pretend that other will not To this if you will not yield as I know you will not it lies upon you to answer the objection which I never saw yet done 2. As for set forms of prayer which I conceive you principally intend by stinted worship I shall next endeavour to justifie them upon many grounds 1. In the old Testament we find set forms of blessing and thanksgiving and prayers appointed by God himself He it was that fram'd to his Priests the very words with which they were to blesse the people Numb 6.23.24 25 26. Numb 10.35.36 2 Chron. 29.30 Exod. 15. Selden in Eutychium Speak to Aaron and his Sonnes saying in this wise shall ye blesse the people The Lord blesse and keep thee c. At the remove of the Arke a forme is set and taught the Priests exurgat Deus dissipentur inimici At the Arks return a form Return O Lord into thy resting place Hezekiah prescribed to the Priests to sing praise to the Lord with the words of David and Asaph the Seer Moses Hymn for the overthrow of Pharaoh is extant and in the same chapter taken up and sung by Miriam which afterward grew a part of the Jewish ordinary Church Liturgy for such they had being instituted by Ezra and the Consistory What should I tell you that the 92. Psalm is a Psalm compos'd for the Sabbath The 20. Psalm to be sung by the people when the King went forth to battaile The 113. to the 118. the great Hallelujah 13. whole Psalms or as some say 15. viz. from 119. to 134. Songs of degrees Moller Ames Musculut in Ps 21. because upon every one of the steps which were 15. betwixt the peoples court and the Temple the Priests made a stay and sung one of these Psalms and the 21. Psalm composed by David to be sung by the people for the King when he came home with victory Yea but say some this was in the infancy and minority of the Church as children then they needed their Festra's as infirm bodies their crutches but now under the Gospel it is otherwise we have more light and gifts of the Spirit than they had True more light we have because the Mystery kept secret from the beginning of the world is more clearly revealed to us then it was to them but that 's not the question prove they should if they speak to the purpose that we have now more ability to compose a prayer then they had more of the Spirit of Grace and supplications Men may have a high conceit of their own abilities but I suppose no wise man will conceive but that Aaron and his sonnes Moses and the Priests Hezekiah and the Levites had as great an ability to pray ex tempore as great a measure of the Spirit of grace and supplications as any man that now lives and yet they used and prescribed set forms Their minority then was in respect of the object of faith not in respect of the spirit of supplications These men therefore shew themselves children to talke of Festra's and cripples in their understanding to talk of crutches since those mens legs were far stronger then theirs and their graces of the Spirit far beyond any Enthusiasts in these days We may think of these forms as meanly as we please but Chrysostome was of another judgement Chrysost Hom. 1. of prayer for thus he begins one of his Homilies of prayer For two reasons it becomes Gods servants to wonder and blesse him both for the hope we have in their prayers and that preserving in writing the Hymns and Orisons they offer'd to God with fear and joy they have deliver'd to us their treasure that so they might draw all posterity to their zeale and imitation Yea but the Spirit must teach us to pray it helps all our infirmities 't is the promise of God to his Church I will poure upon them the Spirit of Grace and supplications Zach. 12.10 And all this may be done in a set forme as well as by any extempore prayer True it is the Spirit must teach us to pray both for matter and forme for we know not what to ask and must teach us how to pray for we know not how to ask zeal and fervour and faith and perseverance and importunity all necessary affections in every supplicant are gifts of the Spirit and groans and sighs proceed from the Spirit he moves the heart first to supplicate brings a man to see in what a wretched case he is one that by his sins hath pierced the Son of God therefore to deprecate ask pardon deprecentur

to succeeding ages with more certainty when they are measured out by Hymns 2. This is one reason but this is not the sole for this is done to edifie Men I conceive are then most edified in Religious Worship when their affections are ordered as becomes pious and devout men Now in the World there is not any thing of more power than is a Musical Harmony either by instrument or voice to quicken a heavy spirit to temper a troubled soul to allay that which is too eager to mollifie and soften a hard heart to stay and settle a desperate In a word not any way so forcible to draw forth tears of devotion if the heart be such as can yield them whence Saint Augustine makes this Confession to Saint Ambrose Aug. Conf. l. 9. Quantum flevi in Hymnis canticis Ecclesiae tuae Men may therefore speak their pleasures but let reason be heard to speak and then the songs of Zion will much edifie if not the understanding because as they say they teach not yet they will build up the affections very much which are more requisite in this work or he that doubts of it let him remember Basha's Ministrel that composed his own soul and Davids Harp which allayed Sauls madnesse No art in Divine Worship can be of more use than this in which the minde ought sometimes to be inclined to heavinesse sometimes to a spiritual extasie of joy sometimes raised to a holy zeal and indignation ever carried with such affections as is sutable to the present occasion 3. And yet I do not I dare not say it doth not teach for are there not good instructions in Psalms not many profitable lessons in Anthynms and these by the sweetnesse of melody find the easier entrance and longer entertainment Hear the judgment of the great Basil When the Holy Spirit fore-saw that mankinde is to vertue hardly drawn Basil in Psalm but is propense to what delights it pleased the wisdome of the same Spirit to borrow from Melody that pleasure which being mingled with the heavenly mysteries might by the soft and smooth touch of the eare convey as it were by stealth the treasure of good things into the minde To this purpose were the Harmonious tunes of Psalms devised for us that they who are yet in knowledge but babes might when they think they sing learn Oh the wise conceptions of that heavenly Teacher which hath by his skill found out a way that doing those things wherein we delight we may also learn that wherein we may profit 4. This is the lesson may be learned from the Ditty now from the sweet agreement of these voices and instruments Christians may learn to agree One Harp or Viol out of tune abates the pleasure of the rest and one jarring Christian Couper in Rev. 5.8 and therefore much more many marres the Musick of the whole Church Oh how melodious was the praise of God when it came from men of one heart and of one minde as pleasing then as is the symphony of well tuned instruments Let us then learn from the songs of Zion to come into tune again these discords and harsh sounds God likes not in his service Pliny secundus Ep. lib. 10. 103. citatur a Tertull. Apolog. cap. 2. Euseb l. 2. c. 17. Pallad in Hist Lausiaca 5. Upon these reasons rhe Primitive Christians sung their praises to God In Pontus and Bythinia Pliny writes to Trajan the Emperour that their onely fault was that they met before day to sing Hymns to the honour of Jesus secum invicem I pray mark those words for they speak for the use you mock at of Quiristers for it was secum together and Invicem by turns that is Quire-wise And in Nytria Philo the Jew and he lived in Caius Caligula's time and after him Palladius deliver that they were accustomed in their Temple with Hymns and Psalms to honour God sometimes exalting their voices together and sometimes one part answering another wherein he thought they departed not much from the pattern of Moses and Miriam In Ignatius the first of the Greek Fathers we read of 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Ignat ad Antioch Concil Laod Can 15. 1 Cor. 14.16 Socrat l. 6. c. 8. and after mention of them in the Councils and what should they be but Quiristers which Saint Paul is also supposed to intend when he asks Hath he a Psalme At Antioch Socrates affirms that Ignatius began the custome of singing of Hymns interchangeably upon a vision of Angels And if Ignatius did not yet one who is of more authority did I mean the Prophet Isaiah for he saw the Lord sitting upon his Throne and above it stood the Seraphims Isa 6.1 2 3. and one cryed to another and said Holy Holy Holy Flavius and Diodorus continued it in the same Church against the Arrians Damasus and Ambrose brought it into the West Vide Hooker Eccl. Pol. lib. ● Sect. 39. And among the Grecians Basil having brought it into his Church of Neo-Casarea to avoid any thoughts of singularity and novility pleads for his warrant the Churches of Aegypt Lybia Thebes Palestine the Arabians Phenicians Synians Mesopotamians among whom the custome was for his was such to give power to one by him called 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the Chaunter Basil ad Neo-cas to begin the Anthymne and then the whole Quire came in 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 These were the songs of Zion which our fore-fathers used and it is and ought to be our grief that they are not heard still For who that hath an Harmonious soul would not sit down and weep to be deprived of that Harmony which the Angels and Saints practice which so many Christian Churches have received before Papistry was thought of so many Ages kept on foot That which entunes the affections that which teacheth us so many good Lessons filleth the minde with comfort and heavenly delight teacheth us to be of one heart one minde and makes the praise of God to be glorious In a word that so fitly accords with the Apostles exhortation Speak to your selves in Psalms and Hymns and spiritual songs making Melody and singing in your hearts unto the Lord would not upon slight or rather indeed no grounds be cast out of the Church And that you or any other doubt the lesse that Psalmodie is no new device but of very ancient institution in the Church David exhorts young man and Maidens old men and children to praise the Name of the Lord. In which even Children were so skilful Psal 138. that they received Christ into Jerusalem with an Hosanna and applyed fitly those words to him Blessed is he that cometh in the Name of the Lord. Among us saith Hieron Hieron ad Marcellum Basil in Psal Chrysost Han. 9. in Coloss you may hear Plow-men singing Psalms at the Plow-tail And Basil bids an Artisan sing Psalms in his shop Chrysostome layes this charge upon the parents that