Selected quad for the lemma: lord_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
lord_n	aaron_n	atonement_n	law_n	44	3	3.9284	3	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A90932	The preacher sent: or, A vindication of the liberty of publick preaching, by some men not ordained. In answer to two books: 1. Jus divinum ministerii euengelici. By the Provincial Assembly of London. 2. Vindiciæ ministerii euangelici. By Mr. John Collings of Norwich. / Published by Iohn Martin, minister of the Gospel at Edgfield in Norfolk. Sam. Petto, minister of the Gospel at Sand-croft in Suffolk. Frederick Woodal, minister of the Gospel at Woodbridge in Suffolk.	Martin, John, 1595 or 6-1659.; Petto, Samuel, 1624?-1711.	1658 (1658)	Wing P3197; Thomason E1592_2; ESTC R208851	240,824	381

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they_o grant_v jus_n diu._n minist_n pag._n 80._o that_o in_o case_n of_o necessity_n man_n out_o of_o office_n may_v preach_v and_o instance_n in_o aedesius_n and_o frumentius_n two_o private_a man_n by_o who_o mean_n the_o indian_n be_v convert_v to_o the_o christian_a faith_n etc._n etc._n now_o the_o case_n of_o saul_n be_v extraordinary_a the_o philistines_n be_v ready_a to_o assault_v he_o he_o have_v not_o make_v his_o peace_n with_o god_n samuel_n delay_v his_o come_n the_o people_n begin_v to_o scatter_v from_o he_o whereupon_o he_o constrain_v himself_o and_o offer_v a_o sacrifice_n all_o these_o thing_n our_o brethren_n reckon_v up_o jus_fw-la divin_n minist_n pag._n 81._o and_o then_o call_v it_o a_o necessitate_a act_n so_o in_o the_o case_n of_o uzza_n what_o great_a necessity_n can_v there_o be_v then_o this_o when_o the_o ark_n be_v in_o danger_n 2_o sam._n 6._o 6._o the_o ox_n shake_v it_o 1_o chron._n 13._o 9_o 10._o the_o ox_n stumble_v if_o the_o ark_n have_v fall_v 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