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pag._n 22._o sec._n 2._o church_n to_o show_v that_o they_o have_v twenty_o which_o be_v undecided_a by_o the_o express_a word_n of_o god_n and_o here_o you_o say_v that_o it_o want_v nothing_o to_o the_o perfection_n of_o that_o estate_n how_o you_o will_v reconcile_v yourself_o i_o know_v not_o or_o whether_o it_o be_v your_o pleasure_n not_o to_o respect_n your_o own_o credit_n so_o that_o you_o may_v seem_v to_o discredit_v that_o which_o that_o notable_a bishop_n have_v speak_v but_o that_o which_o i_o have_v allege_v of_o jehosaphat_n 2._o chro._n 19_o do_v manifest_o justify_v my_o lord_n of_o sarisburies_n saying_n and_o condemn_v you_o for_o there_o it_o be_v to_o be_v see_v that_o in_o matter_n of_o government_n order_n be_v appoint_v which_o neither_o be_v command_v by_o any_o express_a commandment_n of_o god_n neither_o yet_o express_v in_o the_o word_n of_o god_n but_o of_o this_o matter_n i_o have_v speak_v before_o chap._n 4_o the._n 14._o division_n the_o three_o 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riches_n no_o impediment_n to_o godly_a man_n wherein_o our_o bishop_n may_v be_v compare_v with_o the_o old_a bishop_n his_o duty_n and_o in_o such_o external_a thing_n the_o condition_n of_o the_o time_n and_o state_n of_o the_o country_n be_v to_o be_v observe_v let_v our_o bishop_n be_v compare_v with_o they_o in_o truth_n of_o doctrine_n in_o honesty_n of_o life_n in_o diligent_a walk_n in_o their_o vocation_n and_o in_o knowledge_n i_o speak_v of_o the_o most_o in_o both_o age_n and_o i_o think_v the_o difference_n will_v not_o be_v so_o great_a but_o that_o they_o may_v both_o know_v one_o another_o and_o very_o well_o agree_v among_o themselves_o this_o only_o except_v that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o gospel_n be_v now_o much_o more_o pure_o profess_v by_o our_o bishop_n than_o it_o be_v at_o that_o time_n by_o they_o for_o both_o the_o counsel_n be_v in_o sundry_a point_n very_o corrupt_a chap._n 5._o the._n 18._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 97._o sect._n 2._o in_o the_o same_o council_n of_o carthage_n it_o be_v decree_v that_o no_o bishop_n sit_v in_o any_o place_n shall_v suffer_v any_o minister_n or_o elder_a to_o stand_v now_o i_o will_v report_v i_o to_o themselves_o how_o this_o be_v keep_v 34._o can._n 34._o and_o to_o the_o poor_a minister_n which_o have_v to_o do_v with_o they_o and_o come_v before_o they_o io._n whitgifte_n a_o poor_a quarrel_n though_o this_o humility_n be_v to_o be_v require_v in_o all_o bishop_n yet_o be_v it_o to_o be_v use_v with_o discretion_n for_o thus_o to_o deal_v with_o a_o proud_a and_o haughty_a stomach_n be_v but_o to_o give_v nourishment_n to_o arrogancy_n and_o contempt_n it_o be_v meet_a that_o every_o man_n have_v that_o honour_n and_o reverence_v give_v unto_o he_o which_o his_o place_n his_o office_n and_o his_o person_n require_v and_o as_o it_o be_v humility_n in_o he_o to_o remit_v any_o part_n of_o it_o even_o so_o it_o be_v a_o intolerable_a contempt_n and_o pride_n for_o those_o that_o be_v inferior_n so_o to_o look_v for_o such_o equality_n that_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n they_o refuse_v to_o do_v that_o which_o civility_n good_a manner_n and_o duty_n require_v but_o let_v all_o man_n consider_v those_o note_n and_o token_n of_o your_o haughty_a stomach_n and_o persuade_v themselves_o that_o it_o will_v not_o be_v long_o before_o you_o will_v challenge_v the_o same_o equality_n with_o other_o state_n and_o degree_n in_o like_a manner_n chap._n 5._o the._n 19_o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 97._o sect._n 3_o the_o bishop_n in_o time_n past_a have_v no_o tail_n nor_o train_n of_o man_n after_o they_o and_o think_v it_o a_o slander_n to_o the_o gospel_n to_o have_v a_o number_n of_o man_n before_o and_o behind_o they_o and_o therefore_o be_v soldier_n be_v he_o be_v reprove_v for_o use_v himself_o like_o a_o capitaine_fw-fr be_v accompany_v with_o a_o guard_n of_o soldier_n paulus_n samosatenus_fw-la note_v as_o one_o that_o bring_v religion_n into_o hatred_n and_o as_o one_o that_o feem_v to_o 30._o euseb._n 7._o cap._n 30._o take_v delight_n rather_o to_o be_v a_o capitaine_n of_o two_o hundred_o than_o a_o bishop_n bycaus_fw-la he_o have_v get_v he_o a_o sort_n of_o serve_v man_n to_o weight_n on_o he_o an_o other_o example_n not_o unlyke_a and_o likewise_o reprehend_v be_v in_o ruffian_n of_o one_o george_n one_o gregory_n for_o george_n gregory_n a_o bishop_n now_o in_o our_o day_n it_o be_v think_v a_o commendation_n to_o 23._o ruf._n lib._n 1._o cap._n 23._o the_o bishop_n a_o credit_n to_o the_o gospel_n if_o a_o bishop_n have_v 30._o 40._o 60._o or_o mo_z wait_v of_o he_o some_o before_o some_o behind_o whereof_o three_o part_n of_o they_o set_v a_o part_n the_o carry_v of_o a_o dish_n unto_o the_o table_n have_v no_o honest_a or_o profitable_a call_n to_o occupy_v themselves_o in_o two_o hour_n of_o the_o day_n to_o the_o fill_n of_o the_o church_n and_o common_a wealth_n also_o with_o all_o kind_n of_o disorder_n and_o great_a incommodity_n 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23._o rufsin_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 23._o civil_a cause_n be_v rather_o commit_v unto_o he_o than_o the_o priesthood_n etc._n etc._n if_o any_o bishop_n offend_v in_o the_o like_a with_o we_o it_o be_v the_o fault_n of_o the_o man_n not_o of_o the_o office_n by_o this_o example_n also_o it_o may_v appear_v that_o bishop_n in_o those_o day_n have_v riches_n and_o authority_n for_o this_o abuse_n of_o their_o wealth_n and_o authority_n do_v argue_v that_o they_o have_v both_o which_o they_o may_v have_v use_v right_o and_o well_o chap._n 5._o the._n 20._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 97._o sect._n 4._o and_o here_o i_o will_v note_v another_o cause_n which_o bring_v in_o this_o pomp_n and_o princely_a estate_n of_o bishop_n wherein_o although_o i_o will_v say_v more_o in_o a_o word_n for_o the_o pompous_a estate_n than_o m._n doctor_n have_v do_v in_o all_o his_o treatise_n yet_o i_o will_v show_v that_o although_o it_o be_v more_o tolerable_a at_o the_o first_o now_o it_o be_v by_o no_o 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d lord_n as_o likewise_o in_o france_n they_o call_v every_o one_o that_o be_v a_o gentleman_n or_o have_v any_o honest_a place_n monsieur_fw-fr and_o so_o they_o will_v say_v also_o save_v your_o honour_n now_o we_o know_v this_o word_n lord_n in_o our_o country_n be_v use_v otherwise_o to_o note_v some_o great_a personage_n either_o by_o reason_n of_o birth_n or_o by_o reason_n of_o some_o high_a dignity_n in_o the_o common_a wealth_n which_o he_o occupi_v and_o therefore_o those_o title_n although_o they_o be_v somewhat_o excessive_a yet_o be_v they_o nothing_o so_o swell_a and_o stately_a as_o we_o be_v io._n whitgifte_n the_o wise_a man_n say_v let_v not_o thy_o own_o mouth_n praise_v thou_o but_o you_o for_o lack_v of_o 27._o pro._n 27._o
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then_o come_v it_o neither_o from_o the_o papist_n nor_o yet_o from_o the_o gentile_n but_o whensoever_o this_o begin_v or_o from_o who_o soever_o it_o be_v take_v the_o baptise_v of_o infant_n have_v always_o be_v think_v necessary_a in_o the_o church_n by_o all_o such_o as_o have_v not_o divide_v themselves_o by_o any_o schism_n or_o heresy_n from_o the_o same_o chap._n 5._o the._n 3._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 113._o sect._n 4._o now_o i_o return_v to_o the_o example_n of_o sephora_n and_o say_v that_o the_o unlawfulnesse_n of_o that_o fact_n do_v appear_v sufficient_o in_o that_o she_o do_v it_o himself_o it_o mose_n by_o reason_n of_o sickness_n be_v not_o able_a to_o do_v it_o himself_o before_o her_o husband_n moses_n which_o be_v a_o prophet_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o 1_o and_o this_o be_v contrary_a to_o that_o he_o have_v pag._n 17_o sect._n 1_o to_o who_o that_o office_n of_o circumcision_n do_v appertain_v so_o that_o unless_o m._n doctor_n will_v have_v midwife_n 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in_o the._n 170._o page_z of_o your_o book_n you_o say_v that_o god_n take_v the_o priesthode_n from_o moses_n 1_o pag._n 170._o sect._n 1_o and_o give_v it_o to_o aaron_n and_o now_o you_o seem_v to_o affirm_v the_o contrary_a in_o say_v that_o moses_n be_v a_o prophet_n of_o the_o lord_n to_o who_o that_o office_n of_o circumcision_n do_v apperteyne_a for_o hereby_o you_o do_v insinuate_v that_o moses_n be_v a_o priest_n moreover_o moses_n at_o this_o time_n be_v extréemely_a sick_a and_o therefore_o can_v not_o execute_v that_o office_n himself_o and_o in_o the_o geneva_n bible_n there_o be_v this_o note_n that_o it_o be_v extraordinary_a for_o moses_n be_v sore_o sick_a and_o god_n even_o then_o require_v it_o sephora_n therefore_o do_v circumcise_v in_o a_o point_n of_o extremity_n minister_v baptism_n true_a though_o not_o ordinary_o minister_v and_o not_o wilful_o or_o of_o purpose_n &_o that_o circumcision_n be_v a_o true_a circumcision_n though_o it_o be_v not_o do_v ordinary_o even_o so_o baptism_n be_v true_a baptism_n though_o it_o be_v sometime_o minister_v by_o such_o as_o be_v not_o ordinary_a minister_n the_o event_n do_v oftentimes_o declare_v the_o thing_n exitus_fw-la acta_fw-la probat_fw-la though_o not_o necessary_o but_o this_o be_v certain_a that_o these_o evente_n be_v better_a reason_n to_o justify_v the_o fact_n than_o you_o can_v she_o we_o any_o out_o of_o that_o place_n to_o the_o contrary_n chap._n 5._o the._n 4._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 113._o sect._n ult._n &_o pag._n 114._o sect._n 1_o an_o other_o reason_n he_o have_v which_o be_v that_o the_o dignity_n of_o the_o sacrament_n do_v not_o depend_v upon_o the_o man_n whether_o he_o be_v minister_v or_o no_o minister_n good_a or_o evil_n in_o deed_n upon_o this_o point_n whether_o he_o be_v good_a or_o a_o evil_a minister_n it_o depend_v not_o but_o on_o this_o point_n whether_o he_o be_v a_o minister_n or_o no_o depend_v not_o only_o the_o dignity_n but_o also_o proof_n also_o a_o strange_a as_o sertion_n avouch_v without_o proof_n the_o be_v of_o the_o sacrament_n so_o that_o i_o take_v the_o baptism_n of_o woman_n to_o be_v nomore_o the_o holy_a sacrament_n of_o baptism_n than_o i_o take_v any_o other_o daily_o or_o ordinary_a wash_n of_o the_o child_n neither_o let_v any_o man_n think_v that_o i_o have_v at_o unwares_o slip_v into_o this_o asseveration_n or_o that_o i_o have_v forget_v that_o soon_o after_o the_o time_n of_o the_o apostle_n it_o be_v the_o use_n of_o certain_a church_n that_o deacon_n shall_v baptize_v in_o the_o time_n of_o necessity_n as_o they_o call_v it_o for_o as_o for_o the_o baptism_n of_o deacon_n i_o hold_v it_o to_o be_v lawful_a for_o because_o although_o as_o it_o be_v with_o we_o they_o give_v he_o the_o name_n of_o deacon_n etc._n deacon_n urge_v hoc_fw-la etc._n etc._n yet_o in_o deed_n he_o be_v as_o he_o then_o be_v in_o the_o elder_a time_n a_o minister_n and_o not_o a_o deacon_n and_o although_o he_o do_v then_o provide_v for_o the_o poor_a and_o so_o have_v two_o function_n which_o be_v not_o meet_v yet_o his_o office_n ought_v to_o be_v esteem_v of_o the_o principal_a part_n of_o his_o function_n which_o be_v preach_v and_o minister_a of_o the_o sacrament_n in_o certain_a case_n and_o as_o for_o the_o baptise_v by_o lie_v man_n consider_v that_o it_o be_v not_o only_o against_o the_o word_n of_o god_n but_o also_o found_v upon_o a_o false_a ground_n and_o upon_o a_o imagine_a necessity_n which_o be_v none_o in_o deed_n it_o move_v i_o nothing_o at_o all_o although_o it_o be_v very_o ancient_a for_o so_o much_o as_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o sacrament_n depend_v chief_o of_o the_o institution_n and_o word_n of_o god_n which_o be_v the_o form_n and_o as_o it_o be_v the_o life_n of_o the_o sacrament_n of_o which_o institution_n this_o be_v one_o and_o of_o the_o chief_a part_n that_o it_o shall_v be_v celebrate_v by_o a_o minister_n io._n whitgifte_n if_o this_o be_v true_a and_o sound_o doctrine_n then_o be_v there_o many_o that_o go_v under_o the_o name_n doctrine_n the_o inconvenience_n of_o the_o replier_n doctrine_n of_o christian_n which_o be_v never_o baptize_v for_o beside_o diverse_a that_o have_v be_v baptize_v by_o woman_n some_o there_o be_v and_o not_o a_o few_o that_o have_v be_v baptize_v by_o such_o as_o have_v take_v upon_o they_o the_o ministry_n not_o be_v thereunto_o either_o ordinary_o or_o extraordinary_o call_v and_o it_o may_v so_o be_v that_o t._n c._n have_v hereby_o prove_v himself_o to_o be_v no_o christian._n and_o sure_o if_o you_o peruse_v all_o the_o write_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n and_o of_o the_o patroness_n the_o assertion_n have_v no_o sufficient_a patroness_n late_a writer_n in_o like_a manner_n i_o believe_v that_o you_o shall_v not_o find_v the_o like_a proposition_n affirm_v for_o although_o diverse_a both_o old_a and_o new_a do_v not_o allow_v that_o lay_v man_n shall_v be_v suffer_v to_o baptise_v yet_o be_v there_o none_o of_o they_o such_o only_o except_v as_o err_v in_o rebaptisation_n that_o think_v the_o be_v of_o the_o sacrament_n so_o to_o depend_v upon_o the_o minister_n that_o zuinglius_fw-la baptism_n by_o lay_a man_n tertull._n ambrose_n hierome_n augustine_n zuinglius_fw-la it_o be_v no_o sacrament_n if_o it_o be_v not_o celebrate_v by_o a_o minister_n tertull._n in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr baptismo_fw-la say_v that_o lie_v man_n may_v baptise_v ambrose_n in_o the._n 4._o ad_fw-la ephes._n say_v that_o in_o the_o beginning_n it_o be_v lawful_a for_o all_o man_n to_o baptise_v jerome_n ad_fw-la luciferianos_fw-la affirm_v that_o it_o be_v lawful_a for_o say_v man_n to_o baptise_v if_o necessity_n do_v require_v and_o hereunto_o also_o do_v s._n augustine_n agree_v in_o his_o 2._o book_n against_o the_o epistle_n of_o parmenian_n the._n 13._o chapter_n m._n zuinglius_fw-la in_o the_o place_n before_o by_o i_o allege_v write_v that_o the_o second_o error_n in_o the_o circumstance_n of_o baptism_n be_v about_o the_o person_n because_o they_o think_v that_o baptism_n can_v not_o be_v give_v of_o any_o but_o of_o a_o priest_n only_o whereas_o if_o necessity_n do_v require_v any_o man_n may_v do_v it_o and_o a_o little_a after_o he_o say_v that_o this_o and_o such_o like_a circumstance_n be_v not_o de_n ipsa_fw-la baptismi_fw-la essentia_fw-la not_o of_o the_o be_v of_o the_o sacrament_n which_o be_v direct_o contrary_a to_o your_o assertion_n m._n caluine_n also_o in_o his_o institution_n cap._n 17._o sect._n 16._o do_v sufficient_o caluine_n caluine_n confute_v this_o error_n in_o these_o word_n now_o if_o it_o be_v true_a that_o we_o have_v set_v down_o the_o sacrament_n be_v not_o to_o be_v esteem_v of_o his_o hand_n by_o who_o it_o be_v minister_v but_o as_o it_o be_v of_o the_o
continual_o to_o be_v teach_v that_o he_o shall_v at_o all_o time_n remember_v his_o duty_n so_o be_v it_o very_o necessary_a to_o have_v certain_a feast_n wherein_o by_o the_o read_v and_o hear_n of_o the_o scripture_n man_n may_v be_v particular_o stir_v to_o the_o remembrance_n and_o deep_a consyderation_n of_o the_o principal_a part_n of_o our_o religion_n and_o the_o good_a and_o godly_a example_n of_o the_o saint_n of_o god_n in_o do_v their_o duty_n therein_o chap._n 1._o the._n 4._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 120._o lin._n 18._o but_o besides_o the_o incommodity_n that_o vyse_v of_o make_v such_o holiday_n and_o continue_v of_o those_o which_o be_v so_o horrible_o abuse_v where_o it_o be_v confess_v that_o they_o be_v not_o necessary_a besides_o this_o i_o say_v the_o matter_n be_v not_o so_o indifferent_a as_o it_o be_v make_v i_o confess_v that_o it_o be_v in_o the_o power_n of_o the_o church_n to_o appoint_v so_o many_o day_n in_o the_o week_n or_o in_o the_o year_n in_o the_o which_o the_o congregation_n shall_v assemble_v to_o hear_v the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o receyve_v the_o sacrament_n and_o offer_v up_o prayer_n unto_o god_n as_o it_o shall_v think_v good_a accord_v to_o those_o rule_n which_o be_v before_o allege_v but_o that_o it_o have_v power_n to_o make_v so_o many_o holiday_n as_o we_o have_v wherein_o no_o man_n may_v work_v any_o part_n of_o the_o day_n and_o wherein_o man_n be_v command_v to_o cease_v from_o their_o daily_o vocation_n of_o plough_a and_o exercise_v their_o handye_v craft_n etc._n etc._n that_o i_o deny_v to_o be_v in_o the_o power_n of_o the_o church_n for_o proof_n whereof_o i_o will_v take_v the_o four_o commandment_n and_o no_o other_o interpretation_n of_o it_o than_o m._n doctor_n allow_v of_o in_o the._n 174._o page_n which_o be_v that_o god_n lycense_v and_o leave_v it_o at_o the_o liberty_n of_o every_o man_n to_o work_v six_o day_n in_o the_o week_n so_o that_o he_o rest_v the_o seven_o day_n see_v that_o 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perilous_a doctrine_n for_o all_o state_n not_o one_o title_n in_o god_n word_n do_v constrain_v either_o the_o magistrate_n or_o the_o church_n from_o turn_v carnal_a liberty_n to_o the_o spiritual_a service_n of_o god_n or_o bodily_a labour_n to_o divine_a worship_n as_o those_o do_v that_o cause_n man_n to_o abstain_v from_o corporal_a labour_n that_o they_o may_v hear_v the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o worship_v he_o in_o the_o congregation_n and_o why_o may_v not_o the_o church_n as_o well_o restrain_v they_o from_o work_v any_o part_n of_o the_o day_n as_o it_o may_v do_v the_o most_o part_n of_o it_o for_o you_o confess_v that_o it_o be_v in_o the_o power_n of_o the_o church_n to_o appoynte_v so_o many_o day_n in_o the_o week_n or_o in_o the_o year_n in_o the_o which_o the_o congregation_n shall_v assemble_v to_o hear_v the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o receyve_v the_o sacrament_n and_o offer_v up_o prayer_n unto_o god_n as_o it_o shall_v think_v good_a according_a to_o those_o rule_n which_o be_v before_o allege_v and_o this_o it_o can_v not_o do_v unless_o in_o the_o same_o day_n during_o all_o that_o time_n which_o be_v no_o small_a portion_n of_o the_o day_n it_o restrain_v they_o from_o bodily_a labour_n wherefore_o this_o be_v no_o commandment_n that_o they_o shall_v labour_v six_o day_n in_o the_o week_n but_o a_o signification_n that_o so_o many_o day_n they_o may_v labour_v as_o the_o same_o god_n that_o give_v this_o commandment_n have_v do_v before_o in_o the_o old_a law_n so_o may_v the_o church_n likewise_o for_o the_o increase_n of_o godliness_n and_o virtue_n and_o edification_n appoint_v some_o of_o those_o six_o day_n to_o be_v bestow_v in_o prayer_n hear_v the_o word_n administration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n and_o other_o holy_a action_n chap._n 1._o the._n 5._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 120._o about_o the_o midst_n and_o if_o it_o be_v lawful_a to_o abridge_v the_o liberty_n of_o the_o church_n in_o this_o point_n and_o in_o stead_n that_o the_o lord_n say_v six_o day_n thou_o may_v labour_v if_o thou_o will_v to_o say_v thou_o shall_v not_o labour_v six_o day_n i_o do_v not_o see_v why_o the_o church_n may_v not_o as_o well_o where_o as_o the_o lord_n say_v thou_o shall_v rest_v the_o seven_o day_n command_v that_o thou_o shall_v not_o rest_v the_o seven_o day_n for_o if_o the_o church_n may_v restrain_v the_o liberty_n that_o god_n have_v give_v they_o it_o may_v take_v away_o the_o yoke_n also_o that_o god_n have_v put_v upon_o they_o io._n whitgifte_n the_o church_n be_v not_o abridge_v of_o her_o liberty_n in_o this_o point_n but_o use_v her_o liberty_n in_o appoint_v some_o of_o these_o day_n to_o the_o worship_v of_o god_n and_o the_o instruction_n of_o his_o people_n which_o shall_v not_o be_v count_v a_o bondage_n or_o servitude_n to_o any_o man_n to_o rest_v the_o seven_o day_n be_v command_v to_o labour_v six_o day_n be_v but_o permit_v he_o that_o for_o bid_v rest_n on_o the_o seven_o day_n do_v direct_o against_o 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