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A63227	The tryals of Thomas Walcot, William Hone, William Lord Russell, John Rous & William Blagg for high-treason for conspiring the death of the King, and raising a rebellion in this kingdom at the Sessions-House in the Old-Baily, London, on a commission of oyer and terminer held there for the city of London and county of Middlesex, on Thursday, Friday and Saturday, July 12, 13 and 14, 1683.	Walcot, Thomas, d. 1683.; Hone, William, d. 1683.; Russell, William, Lord, 1639-1683.; Rouse, John, d. 1683.; Blague, William.; England and Wales. Court of Oyer and Terminer and Gaol Delivery (London and Middlesex).	1683 (1683)	Wing T2265; ESTC R21861	139,903	84

At this Council there was this honourable Person at the Bar the Duke of Monmouth my Lord Howard and another honourable Person who I am sorry to name upon this account who hath this morning prevented the hand of Justice upon himself my Lord of Essex and Collonel Sidney and Mr. Hambden These six had their frequent Consults at this Honourable Persons House for they had Excluded Sir Thomas Armstrong and my Lord Gray for these Gentlemen would have the Face of Religion and my Lord Gray was in their esteem so scandalous that they thought that would not prevail with the people if he was of the Council There they debated how they should make this Rising after several Consultations they came to this Resolution That before they did fall upon this Rising they should have an exact accompt both of the time and method of the Scotch Rising and thereupon a Messenger was sent on purpose by Collonel Sidney viz. Aaron Smith to invite Scotch Commissioners to treat with these Noble Lords Pursuant to this j●●● before the Plot brake out several from Scotland came to treat with them how to 〈◊〉 work 30000 l. was demanded by the Scots in order that they should be read● 〈◊〉 Scotland then they fell to 10000 and at last for the Scots love Money they fell to 5000 which they would take and run all hazards but they not coming to their Terms that broke off that Week the Plot was discovered Gentlemen if we prove all these Instances besides we shall call some to shew you that all the inferior Party still looked upon these to be the Heads and tho' they kept it secret God hath suffered it to come to light with as plain an Evidence as ever was heard Sir Geo. Jeff. I will not take up any of your Lordships time we will call our Witnesses to prove the Fact Mr. Attorney hath opened Swear Collonel Romsey which was done Pray Collonel Romsey will you give my Lord and the Jury an Accompt from the beginning to the end of the several Meetings that were and what was the Debates of those Meetings Col. Romsey My Lord I was at my Lord Shaftbury's Lodging where he lay down by Wapping about the latter end of October or the beginning of Novemb. and he told me there was met at one Mr. Sheppards house the Duke of Monmouth my Lord Russel my Lord Gray Sir Thomas Armstrong Mr. Ferguson And he desired me to speak to them to know what resolution they were come to about the Rising of Taunton I did go there accordingly and call for Mr. Sheppard and he carried me up where they were and the Answer that was there made me was That Mr. Trenchard had failed them and there would be no more done in the matter at that time Mr. Att. Gen. Tell the whole passage Col. Romsey I did say my Lord Shaftsbury had sent me to know what resolution they had taken about the rising of Taunton They made me this answer That Mr. Trenchard h●d failed them that he had promised 1000 Foot and 300 Horse but when he came to Perform it he could not He thought the people would not meddle unless they had some time to make provision for their Families L. Ch. Just. Who had you this Message from Col. Romsey Mr. Ferguson did speak most of it L. Ch. Just. Who sent this Message back Col. Romsey Mr. Ferguson made the Answer my Lord Russel and the Duke of Monmouth were present and I think my Lord Gray did say something to the same purpose Mr. Att. Gen. Pray how often were you with them at that house Col. Romsey I do not know I was there more than once I was there either another time or else I heard Mr. Ferguson make a Report of another Meeting to my Lord Shaftesbury Sir Geo. Jeff. Was my Lord Russel in the Room when this Debate was Col. Romsey Yes my Lord. Mr. Att. Gen. What did they say further Col. Romsey That was all at that time that I remember Mr. Att. Gen. Was there nothing of my Lord Shaftesbury to be contented Col. Romsey Yes that my Lord Shaftesbury must be contented and upon that he took his resolution to be gone L. Ch. Just. Did you hear any such Resolution from him Col. Romsey Yes my Lord. Mr. Att. Gen. Did you know of their meeting there or was it by my Lord Shaftesbury's direction Col. Romsey No but my Lord told me I should find such Persons and accordingly I found them and this Answer was given Mr. Att. Gen. What time did you stay Col. Romsey I think I was not there above a quarter of an Hour Mr. Att. Gen. Was there any Discourse happened while you were there about a Declaration Col. Romsey I am not certain whether I did hear something about a Declaration there or that Mr. Ferguson did Report it to my L. Shaftesbury that they had debated it Sir Geo. Jeff. To what purpose was the Declaration L. Ch. Just. We must do the Prisoner that Right He sayes he can't tell whether he had it from him or Mr. Ferguson Mr. Att. Gen. Did you hear no Discourse to what it tended Col. Romsey My Lord There was some Discourse about seeing what Posture the Guards were in One of the Jury By whom Sir Col. Romsey By all the Company that was there L.C.J. What was that Discourse Col. Romsey To see what Posture they were in that 〈◊〉 might know how to surprize them L. Ch. Just. The Guards Col. Romsey Yes that were at the Savoy and the Mews L. Ch. Just. Whose were the words Tell the words as near as you can Col. Romsey My Lord the Discourse was that some should L. Ch. Just. Who made that Discourse Col. Romsey My Lord I think Sir Tho. Armstrong began it and Mr. Ferguson Mr. Att. Gen. Was it discoursed among all the Company Col. Romsey All the Company did debate it Afterwards they thought it necessary to see with what care and vigilance they did Guard themselves at the Savoy and the Mews whether they might be surprized or not Mr. Att. Gen. Was there any undertook to go and see there Col. Romsey There were some Persons Sir Geo. Jeff. Name them Col. Romsey I think the Duke of Monmouth my Lord Gray and Sir Tho. Armstrong Sir Geo. Jeff. Was my Lord Russell the Prisoner there when they undertook to take the view Col. Romsey Yes Sir Mr. Att. Gen. To what purpose was the view Col. Romsey To surprize them if the Rising had gone on Sir George Jeff. Did you observe by the Debates that happened that they did take Notice there was a Rising intended Col. Romsey Yes Sir Geo. Jeff. And that Direction was given to take a view of the Guards if the Rising had gone on Col. Romsey Yes L. Ch. Just. Pray Sir declare justly the discourse Col. Romsey I went to them from my Lord Shaftesbury And I did tell them That my Lord did pray they would come to some Resolution they told me Mr.

Understand the Estate of Scotland give an Account of it The persons agreed on were Sir Iohn Cockram my Lord Melvil and another whose Name I have since been told upon my Description Sir Hugh Cambel For this purpose we did order a Person should be thought on that was fit Mr At. Gen. Do you know who was sent and what was done upon this Resolution L. Howard I have heard I never saw him in six Months before that Aaron Smith was sent Mr. At. Gen. Who was Intrusted to take care of that Business L. Howard Colonel Sidney We in discourse did agree to refer it to Colonel Sidney to have the care of sending a Person Mr. At. Gen. Who acquainted you Aaron Smith was sent L. Howard Colonel Sidney told me he had sent him and given him Sixty Guineys for his Journey Mr. At. Gen. What more Meetings had you L. Howard We did then consider that these Meetings might have occasioned some observation upon us and agreed not to meet again till the return of that Messenger He was gone I believe near a Month before we heard any thing of him which we wondered at and feared some miscarriage but if his Letter had miscarried it could have done no great hurt for it carried only a kind of Cant in it It was under the disguise of a Plantation in Carolina Mr. At. Gen. You are sure my Lord Russell was there L. Howard Yes Sir I wish I could say he was not Mr. At. Gen. Did he sit there as a Cipher What did my Lord say L. Howard Every one knows my Lord Russel is a Person of great Judgment and not very Lavish in Discourse Sir G. Jeff. But did he consent L. Howard We did not put it to the Vote but it went without contradiction and I took it that all there gave their consent Mr. S●l Gen. The raising of Money you speak of was that put into any way L. Howard No But every Man was to put themselves upon thinking of such a way that Money might be Collected without administring Jealousy Mr. At. Gen. Were there no Persons to undertake for a Fund L. Howard No I think not However it was but opinion the thing that was said was Jocosely rather than any thing else that my Lord of Essex had dealing in Money and therefore he was thought the most proper Person to take the care of those things but this was said rather by way of Mirth then otherwise Mr. At. Gen. What do you know else my Lord L. Howard I was going to tell you I am now at a full stop For it was six Weeks or more before Smith's Return and then drew on the time that it was necessary for me to go into Essex where I had a small concern there I stayed about three weeks when I came back I was informed that he was Returned and Sir Iohn Cockram was also come to Town L. C. Just. Did you meet after this L Howard No my Lord I tell you that I was forced to go three Weeks upon the account of my Estate and afterwards I' was necessitated to go to the Bath where I spent five Weeks and the time of coming from the Bath to this time is five Weeks more so that all this time hath been a perfect Parenthesis to me and more then this I know not L. C Just. My Lord Russell Now if your Lordship pleases is the time for you to ask him any Questions L. Russell The most he hath said of me my Lord is onely hearsay the two times we met it was upon no formed design only to talk of News and talk of things in General L. C. Just. But I will tell you what it is he testifies that comes nearest your Lordship that so you may consider of it if you will ask any Questions He says after my Lord Shaftsbury went off all before is but inducement as to any thing that concerns your Lordship and does not particularly touch you after his going away he says the party concerned with my Lord Shaftsbury did think fit to make choice of Six Persons to carry on the Design of an Insurrection or Rising as he calls it in the Kingdome And that to that purpose choice was made of the Duke of Monmoth my Lord of Essex your Lordship my Lord Howard Colonel Sidney and Mr. Hambden L. Russel Pray my Lord not to interrupt you by what Party I know no Party were they chosen L. H●ward 'T is very true we were not Chosen by Community but did Erect our Selves by mutual Agreement one with another into this Society L. Russel We were People that did meet very often L. C. Just. Will your Lordship please to have any other Questions asked of my Lord Howard L. Russell He says it was a formed Design when we met about no such thing L. C. Just. He says That you did consult among your selves about the Raising of Men and where the Rising should first be whether in the City of Lond●n or in more Foreign parts that you had several Debates concerning it he does make mention of some of the Duke of Monmouth's Arguments for its being Formed in places from the City he says you did all agree not to do any thing further in it till you had considered how to Raise Money and Arms and to Ingage the Kingdom of Scotland in this Business with you that it was agreed among you that a ●ehenger should be sent into the Kingdom of Scotland Thus far he goes upon his own Knowledg as he saith what he says after of sending a Me●enger is by Report only Mr. At. Gen. I beg your pardon my Lord. L. C. Just. 'T is so that what he heard concerning the sending of Aaron Smith Mr. At. Gen. Will you ask him any Questions L. Russell We met but there was no Debate of any such thing nor putting any thing in method But my Lord H●ward is a Man hath a voluble Tongue talks very well and is full of ●iscourse and we were delighted to hear him Mr. At. Gen. I think your Lordship did mention the Camb●lls L. Howard I did ●tammer it out but not without a ●arenthesis it was a Person of the Alliance and I thought of the name of the Argyles L. Russell I desire your Lordship to take notice that none of these Men I ever saw my Lord Melvile I have seen but not upon this account Mr Atterbury Sworn Mr. At. Gen. Aaron Smith did go and Ca●bell he went for is here taken This is the Me●enger Pray what do you know of the Apprehending of the Cambells Mr. Atterbury If it please your Lo●dship I did not Apprehend Sir Hugh Cambell my self but he is now in my Cu●tody he was making his Escape out of a ●oodmongers-House both he and his Son Mr. At. Gen How long did he own he had been at London Mr. Atterbury Four Days and that in that time he had been at Three Lodgings and that he and his Son and one Baily came to ●own together Mr. At.

that Conspiracy and imagination by is the assembling in Council to raise Arms against the King and raise a Rebellion here We have proved that to you by Three Witnesses I shall endeavour as clearly as I can to state the substance of the Evidence to you of every one of them as they have delivered it The first Witness Colonel Romsey comes and he tells you of a Message he was sent of to Mr. Sheppards house to my Lord Russel with several other persons who he was told would be there assembled together And the Message was to know what readiness they were in what Resolutions they were come to concerning the Rising at Taunton By this you do perceive that this Conspiracy had made some progress and was ripe to be put in action My Lord Shaftesbury that had been a great Contriver in it he had pursued it so far as to be ready to rise This occasioned the Message from my Lord Shaftesbury to my Lord Russel and those Noble persons that were met at Mr. Sheppards house to know what the Resolution was concerning the business of Taunton which you have heard explained by an undertaking of Mr. Trenchards That the answer was they were disappointed there and they could not then be ready and that my Lord Shaftesbury must be content This Message was delivered in presence of my Lord Russel the Messenger had notice my Lord Russel was there the Answer was given as from them all That at present they could not be ready because of that disappointment Col. Romsey went further and he Swears there was a Discourse concerning the Surprizing of the Guards and the Duke of Monmouth my Lord Gray and Sir Thomas Armstrong went to see in what posture they were in whether it were feasible to surprize them and they found them very remiss and that account they brought back as is proved to you by Mr. Sheppard the other Witness That it was a thing very feasible But to conclude with the substance of Col. Romseys Evidence he says my Lord was privy to it that he did discourse among the rest of it though my Lord was not a man of so great discourse as the rest and did talk of a Rising He told you there was a Rising determined to be on the 19th of November last which is the substance of Col. Romseys Evidence Gentlemen the next Witness is Mr. Sheppard and his Evidence was this he Swears that about October last Mr. Ferguson came to him of a Message from the Duke of Monmouth to let him know that he and some other persons of Quality would be there that night that accordingly they did meet and my Lord Russel was there likewise that they did desire to be private and his Servants were sent away and that he was the man that did attend them He Swears there was a discourse-concerning the way and method to seize the Guards he goes so far as to give an account of the Return of the Errand the Duke of Monmouth my Lord Gray and Sir Thomas Armstrong went upon That it was feasible if they had strength to do it Then he went a little farther and he told you there was a Paper read that in his Evidence does not come up to my Lord Russel for he did not say my Lord Russel was by and I would willingly repeat nothing but what concerns the Prisoner This therefore Col. Romsey and Mr. Sheppard agree in That there was a Debate among them how to surprize the Guards and whether that was feasible and Mr. Sheppard is positive as to the return made upon the view The next Witness was my Lord Howard he gives you an account of many things and many things that he tells you are by hearsay But I cannot but observe to you that all this hearsay is confirmed by these two positive Witnesses and their Oaths agree with him in it For my Lord Shaftsbury told him of the disappointment he had met with from these Noble Persons that would not joyn with him and then he went from my Lord Shaftsbury to the Duke of Monmouth to expostulate with him about it for my Lord Shaftsbury was then ready to be in action and that the Duke said he always told him he would not engage at that time This thing is confirmed to you by these two Witnesses Col. Romsey says when he brought the Message from my Lord Shaftsbury the answer was They were not ready my Lord must be contented Next he goes on with a discourse concerning my Lord Shaftsbury that does not immedia●●ly come up to the Prisoner at the Bar but it manifests there was a Designe at that time he had 10000 brisk Boys as he called them ready to follow him upon the holding up his finger But it was thought not so prudent to begin it unless they could joyn all their Forces So you hear in this they were disappointed And partly by another accident too my Lord Howard had an apprehention it might be discovered that was upon the Proclamation that came out forbidding Bonfires to prevent the ordinary Tum●lts that used to be upon those occasions Then my Lord Howard goes on and comes particularly to my Lord Russel for upon this disappointment you find my Lord Shaftsbury thought fit to be gone But after that the Designe was not laid aside for you hear they onely told him all along they could not be ready at that time but the Designe went on still to raise Arms and then they took upon themselves to consult of the methods of it and for the carrying it on with the greater secrecy they chose a select Council of Six which were the Duke of Monmouth my Lord of Effix my Lord Howard my Lord Russel Mr. Hambden and Col. Sidney That accordingly they met at Mr. Hambden's there was their first meeting and their Consultation there was how the Insurrection should be made whether first in London or whether first in the Country or whether both in London and in the Country at one time They had some Debates among themselves that it was fittest first to be in the Country for if the King should send his Guards down to suppress them then the City that was then as well disposed to rise would be without a Guard and easily effect their designes here Their next meeting was at my Lord Russel's own house and there their Debates were still about the same matter how to get in Scotland to their assistance and in order to that they did intrust Col. Sidney one of their Counsel to send a Messenger into Scotland for some persons to come hither my Lord Melvin Sir Hugh Cambell and Sir Iohn Cockram Accordingly Col. Sidney sends Aaron Smith but this is onely what Col. Sidney told my Lord afterwards that he had done it but you see the fruit of it Accordingly they are come to Town and Sir Hugh Cambell is taken by a Messenger upon his arrival and he had been but four days in Town and he had changed his Lodging three