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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A55393	Quo warranto, or, A moderate enquiry into the warrantablenesse of the preaching of gifted and unordained persons where also some other questions are discussed : viz. concerning [brace] ministerial relation, election, ordination : being a vindication of the late Jus divinum ministerii evangeliei ... from the exceptions of Mr. John Martin, Mr. Sam. Pette, Mr. Frederick Woodal ... in their late book, intituled The preacher sent / by Matthew Poole ...	Poole, Matthew, 1624-1679.	1659 (1659)	Wing P2850; ESTC R33938	110,108	175

all Scripture-Preachers may challenge maintenance or onely such Preachers as are in office-relation to those to whom they preach and of whom they challenge maintenance But not onely such Preachers may challenge maintenance as are in office-relation to them Therefore all Scripture-Preachers may challenge this maintenance The Minor for that onely is liable to exception I prove thus The Apostles say our Brethren were onely in office-relation to the Church and other Teachers are onely in office-relation to their particular Churches as they assert But these might challenge maintenance from others The disciples Luke 10. had no office-relation to them to whom they preached they were no officers in the Jewish Church and the Christian Church was not then erected and yet for their very work they may require maintenance v. 7. And in the same house remaine eating and drinking such things as they give for the labourer is worthy of his hire And Paul where ever he sowes spirituals though it be among heathens he may require carnals 1 Cor. 9. And generally in Scripture the maintenance is rather thrown upon the work then upon the office The double honour 1 Tim. 5. 17. and the high estimation 1 Thes. 5. 13. is for their works sake And the oxe that treadeth out the corn though it may be he treadeth not out his own Masters but another mans corn ought not to be muzled I would desire our brethren to answer me this question Suppose a man will go into Wales to preach the Gospel Whether in that case they do not believe the people are obliged to give him carnalls for his spiritualls If they affirme it as I believe they have too much ingenuity to deny it and the foregoing places fully evince it then we have gained thus much that the maintenance is not due onely to such as are office-wise related to those to whom they preach but to all Scripture-Preachers which was the thing to be proved and so we have secured the Major For the Minor it is needless to spend time about it for our brethren grant it and besides it speakes for it self For if all gifted men be bound to preach as our brethren assert and if in Churches many men are and all ought to covet to be so gifted which also they assert then the maintenance of such would be both absurd and impossible And thus much shal suffice for the vindication of the Provinciall Assemblies Arguments to prove that none ought to Preach without Ordination And so I have done with the principall Question Onely that the Reader may be able more judiciously to compare things together I shall present him with an 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or enumeration of the Arguments on both sides The Arguments alledged by them to prove that unordained men may preach I am the more willing to propound all their Arguments together because I would not take them at advantage but set the best glosse upon their cause for it oft times falls out that quae non prosunt singula juncta juvant those Arguments which when they are pull'd asunder have but little strength in them being united together seem considerable so that if their cause have any reall strength in it we shall see it here when the arrowes are all put together in one bundle or else we may conclude that there is neither strength nor truth in it Their first Argument is this Election must go before Ordination which they take for granted though it never was proved But a person must Preach before Election and therefore before Ordination and so one not yet Ordained may Preach So that their Argument is this Because a man unordained may Preach in a case of necessity i. e. when he is to be tried for Election or Ordination therefore he may Preach where there is no necessity Arg. 2. Gifted men unordained are commanded to Preach And here because Peter 1 Pet. 4. 9 10 11. commands every man to exercise his gift they inferre from thence that this gift must needs include preaching though it may as well relate to hospitality and that this gift must needs be exercised in a publick way by such as have no further call thereunto Arg. 3. They argue from examples Because Apollos who was a man extraordinarily indowed and an Officer 1 Cor. 1. 12. spake publickly to divers Iews though not gathered together in a Church assembly and because the scattered Saints who it is doubtful whether they were officers or no in a case of persecution and necessity spake occasionally of the things of God to persons they met with therefore any gifted men may ordinarily and without a case of necessity preach publickly in a Church Assembly Arg. 4. Because some persons who are called by the name of Officers Prophets and therefore may well be concluded to be in Office because such being inriched with extraordinary gifts did Prophesie therefore persons who are unquestionably no Officers and whose gifts are but ordinary may preach And this is bonâ fide the whole strength of their opinion which whether it be of sufficient force to transport a man beyond the sentiment or judgement of the Church in all ages of the generality of the reformed Churches of the present ages of the far greater part of learned and godly divines among us I desire our brethren and all that are concerned in it in the fear of God to consider And now let us see whether we cannot give a better account of our assertion and whether it doth not stand upon a firmer basis The Arguments alledged by us to prove that unordained men may not Preach Arg. 1. None may Preach lawfully unlesse besides their gifts they have a mission from God Rom. 10. Arg. 2. Neither Aaron no nor the Lord Jesus would undertake their offices nor-do any work of their offices untill over and above their excellent gifts they had received from God a call and designation thereunto And therefore persons farre inferiour in excellency and gifts ought not upon the account of their gifts either undertake any office or any work of any office without a further call thereunto nor are they by 1 Pet. 4. or any other place obliged to it Arg. 3. Gospel-Preachers are called by names importing an office Embassadors Stewards c. And therefore such Preachers are onely officers for names must answer to things Arg. 4. Gifts and calling are constantly distinguished 5. Diverse rules are laid down to guide and caution men in the admission of persons to the office of Preaching the Gospel all which are superfluous if gifted men are eonomine warranted to Preach 6. To allow the Preaching of unordained men opens a door to all confusion 7. God hath punished such as though sufficiently gifted and qualified for the work they did undertook to do a work to which they were not called as Uzzah Saul Uzziah 8. None may performe any religious service to God but such as are appointed or otherwise warranted thereunto But all gifted men are not appointed