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A04901 A confutation of monstrous and horrible heresies, taught by H.N. and embraced of a number, who call themselues the Familie of Loue by I. Knewstub. Seene and allowed, according to the Queenes Maiesties iniunctions. Knewstubs, John, 1544-1624. 1579 (1579) STC 15040; ESTC S108097 192,800 286

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Section seuenteene Oh alas how greate contention and vnprofitable disputations hath there bene concerning the conception of Iesus Christ in the wombe of Mary and touching his birth but if they all which contended heere about had knowen the power of God and that also the mysterie of the minde and works of God had bene giuen thē to vnderstand so should they then verily not haue contended there aboute And whereas the Scripture declareth that Christ should come of the seede of Abraham he wipeth that away after his mystical maner saith that the seed out of the faith of Abraham and out of the pure virgin Mary is the true seede of promise to the blessing of all generations of the earth so that otherwise he will not haue him to be Abrahams seede but in that he followeth the faith of Abraham And as for beeing borne of the virgin Mary hee will haue that a matter common to all his illuminate elders and perfect men of his familie Where he saith That the vpright children of the beliefe which had their discent of the seede of the faith of Abraham and of the pure virgin Mary were knowne to be the seede of the promise His reason is rendred before because Mary with him signifieth nothing else but a doctrice They therfore that are taught in his schole from whence only cōmeth as he thinketh pure doctrine are saide to be borne of the pure virgin Mary and for this cause when he had affirmed that the true seede of Abraham should not be conceiued of the fleshe but of the holy Ghoste Hee saith further that this is to bee done through the power of the most highest in the beliefe The word of God teacheth vs another doctrine that Christ was very man borne of a woman as we reade in the Epistle to the Galathians When the fulnesse of time was come God sent his sonne made of a woman that hee might redeeme them that were vnder the lawe And in the firste of Matthewe and thirde of Luke he is so plainly prooued to bee the seede of Abraham and the seede of Adam after the fleshe that there can bee no admitting of H N. his mysticall meaning or allegoricall exposition Which thing the Apostle likewise affirmeth plainely when hee saith I wish my selfe to be seperate from Christ for my brethren that are my kinsemen according to the flesh which are the Israelites of whome are the fathers and of whome concerning the fleshe Christ came who is God ouer all blessed for euer This damnable doctrine of H. N. ouerthroweth all comforte which is giuen to Christian consciences in the worde of god For seeing by man and in our nature sinne was committed and corruption did take beginning the iustice of God did require that he should be very man and haue our nature who was to make satisfaction for the same That as equitie doth require where the offence was committed there the satisfaction might be made Otherwise howe coulde our consciences rest satisfyed that the law in iustice were answeared and for this cause the holie Ghost saith He toke not on him the nature of Angels but the nature of men and the seede of Abraham And therefore in that he refusing the nature of Angels hath taken vpon him the nature of man hee hath in so doing ouerthrowen all H.N. his spiritual constructions and supercelesticall interpretations touching the flesh and humanitie of Christ and forceth him to a true and naturall meaning in that matter It was necessary likewise for our comfort that his conception should be pure and therefore that hee should be borne of a virgine without the help of man For otherwise if hee had not beene pure in and from the conception he had beene no meete Mediatour for others but one that had stoode in neede of a Mediatour him self Neither should the satisfaction make our full and perfect discharge against the iustice of God seeing his best children are not rid of the remnaunts of sinne but stil feele prouocations and motions vnto euill in them if our nature in him who is the peacemaker were not pure and altogether without spotte or staine And therefore damnable is that doctrine of H.N. that would wring this comforte out of our handes and make vs beleeue that Mary signifieth nothing but a pure teacher and that so many are borne of the pure virgine Mary as are brought vp in the doctrine of H.N. which is as full of puritie as Antechriste is of Christianitie And as by his doctrine wee are lefte comfortlesse touching our satisfaction for sinne so are we likewise touching the hope to obtaine any thing by way of Prayer and intercession Let vs goe boldely saieth the Apostle vnto the throne of grace for wee haue not an highe Prieste which can not be touched with the feeling of our infirmities but one who was in all things tempted in like sorte yet without sinne If the bolde presenting of our selues in Prayer before the throne of grace arise heerevppon that our mediatour is ready to take compassion because he hath our nature in it had tast natural feeling of our infirmities then by the same stroke that H.N. ouerthrowth his humanitie he giueth the deadly wounde to the comforte that wee haue to call vpon God in our necessities H.N. The fourth Article Wee beleeue that this holie seede of blessing namely thissame onely sonne of GOD Iesus Christe our Lorde and Sauior the very like beeing of GOD the Father hath suffered vnder Pontius Pilate was crucified dead and buried and descended to the hel Wee confesse that thissame sonne of GOD inasmuch as hee beareth all thinges with the worde of his owne power beareth also in vs our sinnes Answeare For as much as this Mathematicall Christe which H.N. discribeth is in the minde of man as a qualitie or affection thereof begotten by his doctrine therefore hee is constrayned to saye that hee beareth our sinnes in vs For he will haue the obedience which his familie doth performe through his doctrine which hee calleth the beliefe to be of that valewe that immediatly vppon the receite thereof they haue a Quietus est of the Lord for all their sinnes are clearely discharged of all their iniquities and stand fully reconciled vnto their God because then in all thinges they doe his will according as is declared in the twelfth chapter of his Euangelie Section 7. where speaking how the Priesthoode of Aaron had place vntill the reuealing of his doctrine hee hath these woordes According to thissame manner had this Testament administred by the elders of the holye vnderstanding the foregoing and his fruitefulnesse with the vnilluminated vntill that the beliefe out of the power of GOD became with childe through the holy Ghost and bare or brought foorth a newe man or a newe creature according to the very like beeing of the heauenly Godheade by the beleeuers and illuminated them euen so in their spirite
hearts which hope on God and on his righteousnesse and beare the loue of God and Christ in their hearts to the end that they all which loue God and his Christ mought now liue louely and peaceably in the same rest with all the holy ones of God and Christ in all loue which most holy the most pure perfect beautie his vpright and gracious seruice of loue we haue receiued or atteined vnto now in this last time wherin we inherite the fulnesse of the life to an euerlasting ioy with God and his Christ And that same most holy his seruice of loue reacheth also no further but it is the perfection it selfe for that cause the seruice of loue which the Lord hath erected with vs little ones elected ones shal stand fast euerlastingly in his ministration and remaine for euer according to the Scripture This seruice of loue as H.N. doth here declare is the perfection it selfe which shall stande fast euerlastingly in his ministration and remain for euer according to the scripture and he that liueth obediently in this seruice of the loue is alreadie ouer head and eares in the ioyes of heauen H.N. his heauen that is builded here vpon earth hath beene ouerthrowne before in the confutation of his title I meane not therefore to haue any other dealing against it before I shall be fully certified that eyther it is builded higher or else that the foundation is made surer onely this I desire that the eyes of this family may be opened so to see the true happinesse laid vp in heauen for the faithfull as that they may growe into a true detestation of all those who teach no other ioyes to be there then such that are felt and perceyued in this life A confutation of H.N. his estate of perfection THat which in this doctrine of H.N. is all in all according to the trueth of God his worde is not at all to be founde among men I meane his estate of perfection which with him is Christ the holy Ghost the resurrection and the euerlasting life and what is it not Now he imagineth that his illuminate men haue profited so well in godlinesse that they sinne no more A doctrine which the whole course of the Scripture doth vtterly ouerthrow For the scope and drift of the worde of God is to leaue all flesh indebted vnto the goodnesse of God that he who will glorie may glorie in the Lorde And therefore it doeth in many places teach and declare that sinne and imperfection is in all men In manie thinges sayeth the Apostle Saint Iames we offende all The Apostle doth not exempt anie man no not himselfe from sinne and offence against God in this his doctrine Whervnto accordeth that saying of Saint Iohn If we say that we haue no sinne wee deceiue our selues and the trueth is not in vs. When the Apostles and pillers of the Church of GOD acknowledge themselues to bee sinners hee cannot bee guided with that spirite which did speake in them who shall denie him selfe and others to offende at all They alledge for them that saying of Saint Iohn Whosoeuer is borne of God sinneth not and that likewise He that committeth sinne is of the Deuill To the which I answere according to that principle which is begonne and grounded vpon reason which also our vsuall speach and practise doeth continue that the whole doeth beare the name after that which is principall in the thing And therefore when men haue dealinges in diuerse trades they alwayes beare the name after that which is principall The Marchaunt who hath a house in the Countrey and some dealinges in husbandrie is notwithstanding called a Marchant and not an husbandman because it is the chiefe and principall thing which he trauaileth in and whereby his especiall maintenaunce doeth growe The wine which is mingled with water hath to name wine and not water because wine is the principall and chiefe part And that lumpe which hath great store of drosse is named notwithstanding of that golde which is in it howe little soeuer the quantitie thereof shall happen to bee because it is principall in value and accompt So that whether we shall compare quantitie with quantitie or qualitie with qualitie the principall shall alwayes beare away the name And therefore no maruaile if the Euangelist shall say that he is of the Deuill who committeth sinne because here hee disputeth not of one or some fewe actions that breake out of a man but of that which is principall in a man For hee draweth all men to these two heades either to bee borne of GOD or of the Deuill According to this doctrine doeth the Apostle exhort vs saying Let not sinne raigne in your mortall bodies for if sinne bee principall beare rule and reigne in anie they giuing themselues as seruauntes thereunto wee may lawfully say of such with the Apostle that they are of the Deuill as contrariwise when anie shall humble themselues to those dueties which are sette downe to vs in the worde of GOD so as that course of life shall bee chiefe and principall in them though in manie particular actions they shall be found offenders yet may they all this notwithstanding be said to be borne of GOD and not to sinne because it is not in them as ruler and principall but as a slaue and vnderling and therefore not able to beare the name When the contention is as nowe for principalitie rule According to this distinction we do finde in the scriptures graces denied vnto sinners when sinne is in rule and gouernement which are not denied when it is in subiection and seruice In the Gospell after Saint Iohn it is thus written touching sinne when it is principal and gouerneth â–ª We know that God heareth not sinners And in the Epistle it is plainly set downe concerning sinne when yet it is in vs though not ruler ouer vs that if wee acknowledge our sinnes he is faithfull iust to forgiue vs our sinnes We doe find likewise in other places because of this diuersitie diuerse and distinct things vttered touching sinne For in the Epistle of Saint Iohn it is there said He that committeth sinne is of the Deuil And in the first Chapter of that Epistle the Apostle affirmeth plainly of himselfe and of all the seruants of God who liue here in this world that if we say we haue no sinne we do deceiue our selues and trueth is not in vs. So diuerse speaches vttered in the Scripture of sinne must of necessitie force vs according as the godly and learned of all times haue done before vs thus to distinguish the same For the further warrant of this doctrine which giueth the name of the whole vnto that which is not yet whole and perfect because of a speciall studie trauaile profiting therein and contending thervnto consider I pray you of that which is written by the Apostle who when he had before confessed that he had
confes or acknowledge almighty God to be a true and liuing God a mighty spirit a perfect light and a true beeyng doth our beliefe in God import no more then a bare acknowledging or confessing of him to be a true and liuing GOD VVhat comfort or confidence can we haue from hence seeyng that the Diuels as was saide before are felowes with vs at all this consolation who knowe by miserable experience that he is a mightie spirite and a liuing God VVhy doth not H. N. in his explanation of these articles of our beliefe vse that forme of speaking which the Churche receiueth The Church of God saith I beleeue in God the Father almighty which hath more in it then to say I confesse that there is a GOD and Father almighty or that the same is a liuing God and mighty spirit For faith or beliefe hath not onely in it a knowledge of the minde but also a comfort or confidence of the hearte reposed in that partie whom we trust Which to be so if for the resolution thereof wee had no helpe from the scriptures yet woulde our common speache lende vs sufficient light For we are not woont to haue a trust or confidence in any man so soone as we know the man or vnderstand generally what is the disposition and qualitie of that man which may peraduenture be of that sorte as nothing can make more for the withdrawing of our hearte and affection from him But when we haue good knowledge of such a special good disposition towards vs as we may safely commit our selues vnto then are we sayde to haue a confidence or trust in him Nowe for this speciall good will of God to vs warde wee haue not onely his bare woorke but also a plaine couenant of his As appeareth in Genesis I will establish my couenant betwene mee and thee and thy seede after thee in their generations for an euerlasting couenant to be GOD vnto thee and vnto thy seede after thee which is more plainly and plentifully set foorth in the Epistle to the Hebrues After these dayes sayeth the Lorde I will put my lawes in their minde and in their heart I will write them and I will be their GOD and they shall be my people I will be mercifull to their vnrighteousnesse and I will remember their sinnes and their iniquities no more For this cause the Gospel which is the glad tidings of our saluation is called by the Apostle The doctrine of fayth to giue vs to vnderstand that fayth feedeth not vpon a bare knowledge of the Lord but hath for diet the large and liberall prouision of his promises conteyned in the Gospel where is plentifull confirmation of a most louing league betwene the Lorde and vs and of a speciall loue liking and good will that hee beareth vnto vs euen to shewe foorth all louing and fatherly dealing towardes vs not for some short tearme of tyme but by an euerlasting couenaunt to continue the same for euer Herevpon it is that in the Epistle to the Romanes it is giuen foorth as an effect of fayth that the faythfull doe alreadie glorie vnder the hope of the glorie of GOD knowinge that seeing they are alreadie entred into league fellowshippe and communion with the Lorde and that by an euerlasting couenaunt wherein the Lorde standeth bounde to remember their sinnes and their iniquities no more It can not bee hee shoulde cutte off that course of his kindenesse which hee hath alreadie entred into The Apostle likewise in his Epistle to the Ephesians affirmeth that fayth causeth boldenesse and maketh our accesse vnto GOD to bee with confidence And why Euen because as the Prophet sayeth wee are betrothed vnto the Lorde and hee hath maried himselfe vnto vs for euer in righteousnesse in iudgement in mercie and in compassion so that wee are to assure our selues of all goodnesse and compassion at his handes as beeing our ioynture that hee hath assured vnto vs for euer For the league is made betweene him and vs that wee shoulde bee no more as forreyners and straungers but Citizens with the Saintes and of the householde of God that as the honour of our welfare shoulde bee his so shoulde the studie and care thereof in like maner lie vpon him This I confesse requireth knowledge For howe shall they beleeue in him of whom they haue not heard Yea and that also from his woorde Let thy louing kindnesse and thy saluation come vnto me according to thy promise sayeth the Prophet And againe O Lorde thou hast dealt graciously with thy seruant according to thy woorde For we are not set at libertie to conceyue of the Lorde whatsoeuer liketh vs but charged to looke after that which is pleasing in his eyes whereof hee hath giuen vs notice by his woorde Notwithstanding euerie thing conteyned in the woorde cannot truelie bee sayde to bring foorth this fayth but his free promise of grace and mercie is the true mother thereof For doeth any man then knitte our heartes vnto him when wee see nothing but heauie lookes and heare of nothing beside fearefull and heauie woordes or rather when his fauour is amiable and his woordes assured pledges of a minde that meaneth nothing but peace and prosperitie wealth and happinesse vnto vs Doeth the Apostle in the place before alleaged inquiring howe that ani● man shoulde beleeue in him of whome he hath not hearde stay as satisfied when once hee commeth to that poynt of hearing Doeth hee rest before the glad tidinges of peace and the glad tidinges of good thinges be heard of by that Messenger whose feete bee full of beautie and whose comming is most acceptable Hee driueth fayth from ignoraunce and blinde deuotion vnto the hearing of the woorde and yet findeth no perfect rest there before the gladde and good tidinges thereof bee made knowne and assured vnto the faythfull Albeit then fayth haue in it knowledge and can not bee without certificate from the woorde yet is not that all for vnlesse there bee setled in our heartes a comfort from his free and sweete promises we haue not what to repose our harts vpon And therefore as they are deceyued who mainteine a fayth without the knowledge of the woorde so is H.N. and whosoeuer else that will vpholde fayth to bee a knowledge onely without comfort or confidence from the promises of the worde That description helpeth greatly for the confirmation of this matter which the Almightie maketh of himselfe when hee affirmeth him to bee strong mercifull gracious slow to anger and abounding in goodnesse and truth reseruing mercy for thousandes forgiuing iniquitie transgression and sinne not making the offender altogither innocent but visiting the iniquitie of the fathers vpon children vpon childrens children vnto the thirde and fourth generation Wherein albeit the later woordes at the first sight may seeme to signifie the Lordes euerlasting wrath towardes the wicked yet if wee remember that in the former Chapter
he take something for their standing other benefit he hath none by them This true essence and being of God which H. N calleth his loue is not according to his doctrine any thing that the Almightie hath proper and peculiar vnto himselfe in that he is God but that which all the faythfull are possessed of and that not in some little measure but so as there dwel liue or rule no other thing in all there spirite thoughtes mind and soule but alone this true godhead with his louely being of the vpright loue For these are his owne words in his first exhortation Chap. 15. and Section 26. The true freedome verily is this that the mā through the ministratiō of the gracious word is wholy released purged or purified frō all wicked nature which hath raigned ouer him that there dwel liue nor rule any other thing in him namely in al his spirit thoughts mind soule but alone the true godhed with his louely being of the vpright loue yea to be so wholy replenished with all vertues of God that there flow nothing in him but the spirituall heauenly and liuing waters And because H.N. his doctrine tendeth to establish a kinde of loue which in his opinion is the true beeing diuinitie and deitie of God therefore he calleth also his counsell and instruction this true being For thus he speaketh in his first exhortation Chapiter 12. Section 54. If yee stand minded to feare the Lorde to bee obedient to his lawe that passeth foorth presently out of the true Sion his word that passeth forth presently out of the heauēly Ierusalem giue ouer your selues after my counsaile and instruction according to it al as the Lord hath reuealed the true being vnto me out of Sion and Ierusalem wholy and altogither so will I then in like maner euen out of the heartie loue stand seruiseable so much as I may in the Lorde vnto you dayly and at all times thervnto to the end you should feare the highest God and might learne to knowe his righteousnesse For his righteousnesse is the loue the true being and the euerlasting life Speaking as you heare of his doctrine and exhorting them to the imbracing thereof hee calleth it the true being when hee sayeth according as the Lorde hath reuealed the true being vnto mee And in the ende he concludeth that the righteousnesse which he teacheth is the loue the true beeing and the euerlasting life So that the Deitie and beeing which H. N. giueth vnto GOD is no other then that which mortall men attaine vnto For the righteousnesse which they perfourme by his doctrine is as he sayeth the loue the true being and euerlasting life And forasmuch as this true being is no other thing with him then that loue which by his doctrine manie are made partakers off therefore in the beginning of his Euangelie H.N. affirmeth himselfe to be godded with God in the spirite of his loue and likewise sayeth that he was the true light of the perfect being And in his first exhortation Chapter 17. Section 5. The Childe confesseth of the Father and eldest Elder that the moste highest hath reuealed the possession of his moste excellent Maiestie in him and that with the same being of the perfect Godhead he hath made a godly dwelling with him This doctrine doeth vtterly ouerthrow the true diuinitie deitie of God it robbeth him of his true essence and beeing and couereth him with no other essence nature or being then is found in man it setteth the creator among the creatures and it matcheth the the creature with the creator The Lord if it be his good wil open their eyes that they may see it giue them harts that may blush and be ashamed of such blasphemie that e●that they may receiued in true repentance or otherwise if they will still harden their hearts that wee may see them laid downe in their confusion and couered with their owne shame H.N. In which name of the father wee are plucked Section 3 thorowe the seruice of his holie and gratious word vnder the obedience of the law of the Lorde of the beliefe of Iesu Christ and of the loue of the holie ghost by the father to the loue of his onely sonne Iesu or Sauiour the very like beinge or substaunce of his Godhed and euen so baptised or washed in the same name of the father Which plucking of the father and baptising in Section 4 the fathers name hath the foregoing by vs in the administration of the holie word vnder the obedience of the loue with the Law or ordinaunce of the Lorde And with his correction or discipline wherewithall we euen so as in an enmitie against the sinne beecome preuented and infourmed to an incorporating in the godlie righteousnesse For euen so in the becomming baptised in the name Section 5 of the father doth the Lord chastise or nurtur with his lawe euery man which hee plucketh or receiueth vnto him where through it becommeth than all made manifest in the man whatsoeuer becommeth chastised by the light or through the light Section 6 Through which fatherlie discipline in the becomming manifest of the sinne we are in seeing perceiuing in the light all the horriblenes of the sinne togither with Deuils and the fleshes lying craftie deceitful or false nature and Gods indignation and wrath ouer the same ouer all such as are of one minde therwith Section 7 When we nowe finde our selues guiltie in al and become in such sorte chastised by Gods grace through his light of the fatherlie loue so beare wee at that time greife sorrowe and anguish or affliction for the sinnes cause and confessing the same sinnes with humble heartes in the seruice of the holie word vnder the obedience of the loue of the father wee become wholy inclined and goodwilling to hate to leaue and to lay away or to mortifie the sinnes and all what is vngodly and to that effect we doe as than wholly giue ouer our selues in the counsaile of the holie worde and of the elders in the seruice of the loue To the ende that God the fathers name according to the requiring of the seruice of his loue might become hallowed and magnified in vs. Section 8 And euen so in the familie or communalty of the Loue wee obtaine grace and fauour before God the father and his sonne Iesu Christ become through the seruice of the holy woorde and of the fatherlie correction kepte and led foorth euen vnto Iesus Christ the sonne of GOD the father For to become iustified released or made free through the name of the sonne vnto whom God the father hath giuen all power both in heauen earth from the sinne ▪ and from her kingdom of the death of the Deuill and of all wicked spirites namely to our preseruation in the godlinesse in the
as a thing vnneedefull not once distincting vnto whom the seruice after the ordinaunce of Aaron is yet necessary nor yet with whom the same at the appoynted time ceaseth or leaueth of but haue al for the most parte cried Christ Christ and we are Christians and attributed to themselues much freedome ere euer the time of the appearing of Christ or the annointing of the holy Ghost was come to passe or fulfilled with them in the accomplishing of the olde Testament Oh that they yet nowe awaked and tooke heede in the woorde of the seruice of loue vnto this gratious time and gaue eare vnto the same that they might vnderstande their safemaking and so then bee rightly and according to the trueth brought to the true beyng that is vnto Christ You heare that hee complayneth greately of the Scripture learned that they haue altogether and generally leaste the Leuiticall Priesshoode and seruice after the ordinaunce of Aaron forbidding it vnto all without exception when as the time of the appearing of Christ is not yet come to passe with many because they haue not taken heede in the woorde of the seruice of loue vnto this gracious time and therefore hee wisheth in the tenth Section that they yet woulde nowe awake and take heede in the woorde of the seruice of loue vnto this gratious time that so they might rightly and acording to the trueth bee brought to the true beyng that is as he saieth vnto Christ for these be his owne woordes in this place And so then be rightly and according to the truth brought vnto the true beeing that is vnto Christ So that nowe you see clerely by receiuing effectually this his doctrine men are made that true light whereof he spake before in this chapter when as he saide And this same true light is the annoynted with the holy Ghost which is named in Hebrue Messias and in Greeke Christus In the sixth Section hee declareth when men may be saide to come to this true being and perfection which he calleth Christ To witte when the law and seruices doe chaunge with the beleeuers out of the letter and seruiceable woorde into the reuealing of the holie spirite of Christ For then as hee sayeth in that Section The honourable Priest is come vnto them who teacheth not after the maner of Aaron by requiring them yet to obserue the will or righteousnes of the law but after the maner of Melchisedech bringing with him the blessing the accōplishing of the law the saluation of life the annointing of the holy Ghost these be his words Where now thē the law the seruices do in such wise change by the beleeuers of the annointed to witte out of the figures into the true beeing and out of the letter and seruiceable worde into the reuealing of the holy spirite of Christ there is also then by these same the Priest his office chaunged for Christ the honourable Priest cōmeth vnto them from the right hand of God the Father out of the heauenly beeyng which hath or vseth not his seruice after the maner or ordināce of Aaron which is yet a teaching and requiring to obserue the will or the righteousnesse of the lawe of the Lorde but after the maner or ordinance of Melchisedech with bringeth with him the blessing the accomplishing of the lawe or of the Lorde his will the saluation of life and the annointing of the holy Ghost to a pleadge of the godly inheritance to an euerlasting treasure or riches of God and reigneth in the righteousnes of the same See the miserie of this mischiefe hee will haue Christ to bee an estate in man which leaueth the written woorde which hee calleth the letter and hearkeneth wholly to the reuelation of the spirit which banisheth Aaron that is that estate which is carefull to doe the will and commaundementes of God and resteth resolued that they haue already accomplished the lawe and sinne no more And this is that true seede of promise whereof wee heard before out of the eightienth chapter of this booke which is not as he sayeth conceiued of the fleshe but of the holy Ghost through the power of the most highest in the beleefe this seede out of the faith of Abraham also of the pure virgin Marie is as he saith in that place the true seede of the promise to the blessing of all generations of the earth And this seede he calleth the vpright children of the beliefe Albeit I haue set downe the wordes before yet it shall not be amisse to recite the place againe worde for worde as it lieth there Consider ye beloued howe that there is shewed vnto vs and geuen vs to vnderstand through the speches of the Angel Gabriel which he vsed with Mary that at the same time when the holy Ghost came through the power of the most highest vpon the Virgin Marie and procreated the true seede of promise the time of the procreating of the seede of Abraham according to the fleshe turned it selfe about to wit that the holy and true seede of Abraham should not from thenceforth be conceiued of the flesh but of the holy Ghost through the power of the most highest in the belief that the same should euē so be borne out of the true faith of Abrahā for the seed out of the faith of Abraham out of the pure virgin Mary is the true seed of promise to the blessing of all generations of the earth And thus from that time foorth the Genealogie of the seede of Abraham according to the fleshe ceassed with the Beleeuers for the vpright children of the belief which had their discent out of the seed of the faith of Abraham and of the pure Virgin Mary as also frō the holie Ghost were knowē to be the true seede of Abraham because the same seede was the seede of the promise of God the Father was likewise in his minde according to the spirite the likenes of God his father also spirit spirituall of the godly nature being according to the will of God wholly minded with God. It appeareth likewise plainely in that his booke which is intituled The Prophesie of the spirit of loue chapter xv v. Section that this state of perfection which is there called the seconde birth is Christ Iesus the Lord and sauiour These be his woordes O ye holy ones of God thou louely communaltie of loue feare not but be nowe of good cheere vpon the earth against all your enimies For beholde your GOD commeth to be auenged on all your enimies for to lay them that they may bee troden downe vnder the feete of your Lorde and Sauiour Iesus Christ and euen so in your second birth out of the holy spirite of the loue of Iesus Christ to transporte or yeeld ouer the iudgement and dominion vpon the earth vnto you and your Sauiour Iesus Christ to the ende that yee with him and he with you and your sauiour Iesus Christ and with his
challenged to himselfe in his title as you hearde before to iudge the compasse of the earth with righteousnesse and that the God of heauen hath nowe declared him selfe and his Christ to his elect with the fulnes of his garnishing and spiritual heauenly riches to an euerlasting house for God his dwelling the which as he saith is the true vndisturbable kingdome full of all godly power ioy and heauenly beautifulnesse wherin is the fulnesse of eternal life And in the 35. chapter of his Euangelie he confirmeth the same in these words Behold in this present day is this scripture fulfilled according to the testimony of the scripture the raising vp and the resurrection of the Lordes dead commeth also to passe presently in this same day through the appearing of the cōming of Christ in his maiestie Which resurrectiō of the dead seeing that the same is come vnto vs frō gods grace we do likewise in this presēt day to an Euangelie or ioyful message of the kingdōe of god christ publish in al the world vnder the obediēce of the loue In which resurrectiō of the dead God sheweth vnto vs that the time is now fulfilled that his dead or the dead which are fallē a sleepe in the lord rise vp in this day of his iudgement and appeare vnto vs in godly glory which shal also frō henceforth liue in vs euerlastingly with Christ raigne vpon the earth Wherin the scripture becōmeth fulfilled in this presēt day like as there standeth writtē therof He affirmeth here in plaine words ▪ that the dead w are fallen a stepe in the Lord rise vp in this day of his iudgemēt appeare vnto H.N. the illuminate elders of his familie in godly glory He affirmeth like wise that they shal frō hēceforth liue in him his felow elders euerlastingly thē the with what can be more erronious For by this doctrine the resurrectiō should be onely of thē that sleepe in the Lord that is of the good of which number he taketh thē to be alone who now receiue his doctrine euerlasting life which they rise vp to enioy should be onely to liue after that course of life which he his illuminat felow elders do keepe For he saith that they are to liue in him and in his fellow elders euerlastingly to reigne vppon the earth If their eies bee not altogeather closed vp who fauour the doctrine of H.N. they may well discerne that this resurrection is not that resurrection whiche the Scripture mencioneth neither is this chaunge of them that imbrace his doctrine that which the Apostle reporteth 1. Corinth 15.52 Which as he testifieth there is to be perfourmed in a moment in the twinckling of an eye at the last Trumpe Nowe I am wel assured experience wil tel thē beside the doctrine of H.N. which confirmeth the same that they are not by and by in a moment after they haue hearde the blaste of H.N. his doctrine partakers of the resurrection that is made elders and illuminate men In the 37. Chapter of of his Euangelie likewise this same matter is testified of him more cleerely yf possible that may be Yea happy is he which now respecteth wel the true light and assembleth him in this day vnto the mercy seate of the Maiestie of God and Christ to his saluation for after this day there shall no day of grace come vppon the earth because all the workes of God and his Prophecies bee come fulfilled according to the scripture in the same And for that the righteous iudgement of God to an euerlasting death and damnation of all vngodly and to an eternall life and saluation of all the holy ones and elect of God becommeth also executed therein This opinion of his is confuted before at large in my answere to that title which hee challengeth vnto him selfe This onely testimony I wyll adde to the former for the ouerthrowe of this opinion If to doe good and liue well be the resurrection of life howe is that true which S. Iohn testifieth that they which haue doone good shall come foorth of the Graues vnto the resurrection of life With what trueth or in what sence can it be said of a man that he commeth forth to that which already he hath in him selfe and is possessed of Nay if this bee the resurrection to arise vp to the imbrasing of H.N. his doctrine with what trueth can it be saide that they which alreadie haue doone good shal come forth vnto the resurrectiō of life whē he is of opinion that we are voide of al goodnes grace vntil we become seasoned with this seruice of the loue And howe can they which haue doone good come out of the graue when by his doctrine they haue come out of theyr graues before they haue done good For death burial vnto sinne are in order before the resurrection vnto righteousnes and newnesse of life What comfort can our faith finde in this article of our beliefe yf H.N. his doctrine be true If all were perfourmed which hee promiseth yet can wee come by no other comfort from him then this that yf wee shall imbrace his doctrine then shall wee lyue as hee doeth heere vppon earth This is all the benefite that our faith obteyneth by the resurrection of H.N. his Christ from the dead H.N. The eight Article Wee beleeue in the holy Ghost and that the same in the oldnesse of the tyme when the dayes of the patience of Christ in the obedience of the holy and gratious woorde ▪ and his seruice of loue are fulfilled becommeth powred foorth from the right hand of God through Iesus Christ namely ouer them all that haue followed Christ in his death of the crosse obediently and haue kept his doctrine with the word of his patience euen vnto the ende that is which are passed through or haue accomplished the Passeouer with Christ till vnto the seconde birth from the dead Or vnto the new life of the true being of Christ Answeare Wee doe heare nothing from H. N. to mooue vs too thinke that the holy Ghost is God which thing woulde not haue beene omitted if hee had been sounde therein seeing he openeth vnto his familie the principles of religiō whereof this is one of the chiefe and setteth downe beside the woordes of our Creede his owne exposition explication of the same seyng also that of all the churches which professe Christianitie throughout the whole worlde there is no one that hath vnto this day imbrased his doctrine or ioyned with him in religion and those which throughly know hym professe warre with him considering likewise that the scripture hath not left vs without sufficient light to prooue the holy Ghost not onely to be God in substaunce one with the father and the sonne but also distinct in person I say in these and suche like respectes his silence in so principal a thing bewrayeth him selfe not to be sounde
Lorde had pardoned him his sinne therefore euery man that is godly shoulde bee emboldened likewise in their sinnes to flie vnto him wherevpon it followeth that euery man that is godly is subiect to sinne And if this offence of Dauid which had pardon from the Lorde had not beene ommitted after his calling and walking vnto the worde of God then could it not haue beene an argument of hope for the godly because it was committed before he began to liue in the feare of God and therfore their estate condition should be so diuerse that one coulde not yeelde the helpe of hope vnto an other Now if euery godly man should haue hope by it then is there no man so illuminate but he remaineth subiect to sinne and therefore must liue by faith and with the true Church of God beleeue the forgiuenesse of sinnes Nowe forgiuenesse of sinne if H.N. his doctrine may be beleeued is not to bee had or hoped for without this his familie of loue so that euery man not beeing of that his number is shut out of the Church and kingdome of Christ and liueth without all hope of mercy and forgiuenesse from the Lorde For these be his wordes in explaning this Article No man shall obteine grace nor forgiuenesse of sinnes at God his hands without thissame holy communialtie of Christ for thissame is the holy christianity the Familie of loue wherein God himselfe dwelleth liueth walketh c. H. N. The xi Article Wee beleeue the resurrection of the fleshe wee confesse that the dead which are deceased or fallen a sleepe in Christ rise vp with their bodyes and appeare with Christ in his glory where through the whole house of Israell becommeth erected or restored in the last day according to the promises Answeare That the resurrection of the body is wholy and altogither a spirituall matter according to the doctrine of H. N it plainely appeareth in all his bookes I in deede he vseth this worde body in this place but as his accustomed kind of dealing hath beene heeretofore that the simple may the sooner be deceiued thereby in not suspecting any straunge matter to be there where they heare no other beside the knowen accustomed wordes He calleth it the resurrection of the body be cause it is acccōplished while yet we are liuing in this body for so many as nowe imbrace the doctrine of H. N. and are growen to perfection in the same in his iudgement those are risen from the deade and that is with him the resurrectiō of the body in the last day whervnto he draweth all the scriptures which mention the day of iudgement the second comming of Christ when as wel good as bad shall rise againe in the fleshe and be adiudged either to ioy or paine euerlastingly That thus he thinketh of the resurrection it is plaine and euidently to be seene in his Euangelie Chapter 35.8 Beholde in this present day is this Scripture fulfilled and according to the testimonie of the scripture the raysing vp and resurrection of the Lordes dead commeth also to passe presently in thissame day through the appearing of the comming of Christ in his maiestie which resurrection of the dead seeing that the same is come vnto vs from Gods grace we doe likewise in this present day to an Euangelie or ioyfull message of the kingdome of God and christ publish in al the world vnder the obediēce of the loue In which resurrection of the dead God sheweth vnto vs that the time is now fulfilled that his dead or the dead that are fallen on sleepe in the Lord rise vp in this day of his iudgement appeare vnto vs in godly glory which shall also frō henceforth liue in vs euerlastingly with Christ and raigne vpon the earth wherein the scripture becommeth fulfilled in this present day like as there standeth written therof And in the seconde chapter of the Euangelie Section 3. For that cause awake now in the spirit ye louers of the trueth and throughly measure or try out the ground of this same spirit which to the making aliue of all the dead that are deceassed in the Lord is proceeded from God and meruaile not at any of thissame but search or examine the scripture whether that it make not mention of the same Likewise in the 4. Chapter Section 14. For this cause our hope standeth now in this day very little on many inhabitours of the worlde for of them there shall fewe come which shall stand minded or adioyne them vnto the loue and the requiring of her seruice with all their heart and yet many fewer which shall perseuer therin vnto the ende Therefore hope we with ioy much more on the appearing of the dead which dye in the Lorde or are dead in him to wit that they in their resurrectiō from the death shall liuingly come vnto or meete with vs For all the dead of the Lord or members of Christ shall now liue arise with their bodyes we shall assemble vs with them and they with vs to one body in Iesus Christ into one louely beeing of the loue and be altogither concordable in the loue and peace of Iesu Christ He that shall reade the booke of H.N. with iudgement shall soone see and perceiue that the knowledge of his doctrine and obedience thereunto is with him all in-all it is the cōming of Christ the sound of the last Trumpet the resurrection from the deade and euerlasting life of many I will giue you one place for proofe heereof it is in his Euangelie Chapter 38. Section 2 Wherefore awake now all lift vp your heades heare and see the wonderfull actes of God and haue regarde vnto the sounde of the laste Trumpet and consider the forefront of the true Tabernacle of God wherein the beginning of the true God seruice and of the vpright Christian life becōmeth erected the holie of the true tabernacle of God wherin the true God seruice and his requiring the obedience of the belief euen vnto the vpright christian life is accomplished the vaile remoued from the most holy the most holy of the true tabernacle of god wherein the perfection of the true Christian life and al that which God hath spoken from the beginning and promised thorow his Prophets is set vp the kingdome of the God of heauens full of al pure beautie and heauenly powers wherein all mindes of pure hartes doe liue with christian triumph free without feare the day of the righteous iudgement of God in which the compasse of the earth becommeth iudged with righteousnesse the iudgement seat of Christ before which all things must needes be manifested the perfect being of God and Christ in his abundant clearnesse of the godly light the true rest of al the children of God in their perfect louelinesse and vpright being the mysterie of the heauenly trueth wherein the right seruice of loue hath his ministration the declaring of the spirituall treasures or riches
of the heauenly goods which are administred and brought thorow the seruice of loue to an euerlasting perfection vnto the vpright of heart and wherin al vnperfect or childish things Images figures and shadowes do ceasse becommeth nowe in this present day O ye louers of the truth euangelized and declared vnto you all and thereto also yee all so well as we were created for to liue therein and are called and bidden vnto the same out of the grace and mercie of God by me H. N. in whom God hath sealed the dwelling of his glorie and his holie name Wee are taught out of the worde of God to beleeue and assuredly to looke for the resurrection of this our flesh which by death is taken downe and layde into the dust For by that league and couenant wherein the Lord standeth bound vnto vs to become our God he hath not onely taken our soule but our fleshe and bodie also into his fatherly protection and that not for the time of this life alone but in like maner for the life to come And therefore our Sauiour Christ Iesus by these words of the couenant proueth that the dead shal rise againe yea that Abraham who had bene alreadie partaker of rising from sinne in truth the shadow whereof H.N. vrgeth for the rising againe of the flesh should haue yet an other resurrection which is to rise vp in flesh and bone to inherite euerlasting comfort as well in bodie as in soule For as the godly doe glorifie GOD here vpon earth both in bodie and soule so shall they likewise be glorified of him in both in the life to come And this is an article of our beliefe and especiall comfort left vnto Christians But how can it be that H.N. should be priuie vnto these such like comfortes who is vtterly ignoraunt of Christ the procurer of thē The Apostle Paule whose conuersation was in heauen and therefore already possessed of the rising from sinne looked notwithstanding for this resurrection of the bodie when it should be chaunged and made like vnto the glorious bodie of Iesus Christ as it is written in the Epistle to the Philippians But our cōuersation is in heauen from whence also wee looke for the sauiour euen the Lord Iesus Christ who shall chaunge our vile bodies that it may be fashioned like vnto his glorious bodie according to the working whereby hee is able euen to subdue all things vnto himselfe It is manifest then by this which hath bene spoken that the resurrectiō of the bodie cannot be drowned as H.N. his doctrine doeth teach vs in the rising from sinne and wickednesse And beside in this short abstract of the principal points of our faith is it possible to perswade any man that one and the same thing shoulde bee the matter and argument of sundrie articles Now by the doctrine of H.N. this article is the same in effect with those of Christ his rising the third day frō the dead his ascending into heauē his sitting at the right hand of God his father yea it is the same in meaning with those of the holy ghost the holy catholike Church the cōmunion of Saints the forgiuenes of sinnes For all these be nothing else besides that estate of life which his doctrine doeth describe to bee the louely being and that estate of perfection which his illuminate elders bee possessed of What cause haue all true hearted Christians to crie out agaynst this doctrine which shrinketh vp so manie and speciall comfortes so proper and peculiar vnto them H. N. The .xij. Article And we beleeue one euerlasting life Amen We confesse that the same euerlasting life is a true light of men and that God hath made and chosen him the man hereto that hee shoulde liue in the same light euerlastingly it is verie true Answere This euerlasting life which H. N. speaketh of is no other thing then that doctrine which he professeth And therfore he calleth it a true light of men according as we haue heard before in his title that in respect of this doctrine he chalengeth vnto him selfe to bee called the true light of the perfect being alledging the same place that here is cited for proofe thereof But least some might say that this place is not plaine inough to warrant this to be their opinion let vs heare himself open his owne meaning more at large These are his owne wordes in the 34. Chapter of his Euangelie Section 4. In this same day or last time namely in the perfection of the workes of God in his righteous iudgement the God of heauē hath now declared himself his christ together with al his saints to vs his elect also made a dwelling with vs brought euen so vnto vs out of his holy being the most holie of his true tabernacle with the fulnes of his garnishing and spiritual heauenly riches to an euerlasting fast standing Ierusalem and house for Gods dwelling according to the Scripture the which is the verie true vndisturbable kingdome full of all godly power ioy and of all heauenly beautifulnesse wherin the land of the lord with fulnesse of eternall life and louely sweetenesse is sung from euerlasting to euerlasting and wherein all mindes of pure heartes doe dwell liue and walke with freedome and Christian triumph in all loue This day of loue is with him as you heare the last time and therefore nowe doeth God make his dwelling with vs and bringeth the fulnesse of his spiritual riches And this kingdome as he sayeth here is the verie true vndisturbable kingdome full of all godly ioy and heauenly beautifulnes wherein is the fulnesse of eternall life He calleth it the eternall life because this doctrine must reigne on earth for euer and therefore in his exposition vpon this Article he doeth not affirme that anie one man shall liue in the same light euerlastingly but speaking indefinitely sayeth the man shall liue in it euerlastingly because there shall bee from hencefoorth in all times hereafter men founde that shall walke in perfecte obedience vnto this Doctrine It appeareth likewise out of his Euangelie that he professeth euerlasting life to be nothing else but his doctrine So that to liue in perfect obedience vnto that is no other thing then to liue in the life euerlasting in that light that shineth therein And it is therefore called euerlasting because it shal be professed for euer and no religion preuaile against it These bee his owne woordes Euangelie 37.13 Therefore also is this day or light of the loue with his seruice in the most holie the last day and the perfection or conclusion of all the workes of God in the which God himselfe with his Christ and with all the thousandes of his Saintes as in the moste holy of his true tabernacle appeareth and commeth vnto the beleeuers and obedient ones to the requiring of his worde to an eternall rest of his holy ones and to a godly consolation for all afflicted
Church Nowe if vnto Allegories vsed in the scripture it be denied to speake as witnesses for the deciding of doubtes because theyr speache is so doubtfull and obscure in it selfe with what conscience can the testimony be taken of H. N. his Allegories to decide the chiefe pointes of religion withal seeing they are all hatched at home of him selfe and not one to be founde in the writinges of the holy Ghost Irenaeus likewise in his second booke Aduersus haereses and the tenth chapter speaking to the same purpose hath these woordes Omnis autem quaestio non per aliud quod quaeritur habet resolutionem nec ambiguitas per aliam ambiguitatem soluitur apud eos qui sensum habent aut aenigma per aliud magis aenigma sed ea quae sunt talia ex manifestis consonantibus claris accipiunt absolutiones Matters called into question can haue no resolution by other thinges that are likewise in question neyther can one obscure thing be cleered among them that haue eyther iudgement or sence by an other that is darke but of questions that be darke and obscure are wise men woont not otherwise to be resolued then by apparant and manifest proofes It is plaine therefore by the iudgement of these ancient and learned fathers that Allegories which are H. N. his best witnesses be as those men who haue heretofore worne papers For theyr testimony may not be taken to decide matters of question And he that bringeth no better matter then is an Allegorie for the deciding of a doubt is as he who because he wāteth better witnesse is glad to call a periured person to the booke I except not in this speach Allegories that are read in the scripture vnlesse they be suche as by plaine woordes either going before or comming after bee clearely opened and made manifest vnto vs The dispositions of such as haue their sence by circumstance made certaine and are founde in the scripture I deny it not may bee taken but that is altogeather for the assurance that the circumstances doe make vnto vs not for any certaine that is to bee had from them selues They must be plaine and certaine that shal induce a man to geue credite vnto any matter that he is not already resolued of The Logitians therefore refuse too haue them among their places from whence they deriue their proofes and probalities I deny not but that the Rhethoritians haue entertayned them among their figures to moue and delight vs when before the trueth of that thing is out of al doubt with vs The Familie therefore are greatly abused of H.N. their Lorde and maister whyle they are enforced of him to take Allegories onely for theyr euidence And yet are not Allegories so muche abused when they be admitted for proofe as when they are made to ouerthrowe the naturall and historical sence of the worde For albeit the case be to bee pitied when a man shall be forced for lacke of credible persōs who haue beene present to take a periured man to decide a doubt yet is this more lamentable when the party periured shal be suffered to the end that he only may be heard to stop the mouthes of men of good credite who both could and woulde resolue vs of the right And in trueth so the case stādeth with H. N. his Allegories for they vtterly abolishe the naturall sence of the worde and of an historie when H.N. hath doone with it there is nothing left to be heard or seene beside a naked Allegorie Ierome him selfe albeit he had some times ouer great a lykyng of Allegories yet was hee neuer so be witched with them but that he held this trueth in opiniō that the literal natiue sence of the woorde was first to be layde as a sure fundatiō before the roofe of any spiritual sence or Allegorical meanyng might be made therunto Cum Historiae habuerint fundamenta tunc spiritualis intelligentiae culmen accipiant vt verè Christus de virgine natus sit Verè Lazarū mortuū susetarit quamuis quotidie de anima Virginali nascatur sermo diuinus quotidide peccato mortui vitiorum funibus alligati de sepulchro scelerum suorum iubentur exire When they shall haue the foundation of an History then let them builde the roofe of a spiritual fence As for example It is the trueth of a deede once done that Christ was borne of a Virgin and that hee raysed vp Lazarus when hee was dead albeit a diuine word is dayly borne of a pure chast minde they that are dead vnto sinne and bound with the cordes of theyr offēces are dayly cōmaūded to come out of the graues of theyr sinnes Howe farre is H. N. from this moderation for his Allegories in the weightiest matters as in the birth death and resurrection of Christ haue wholy drunke vp and altogeather drowned the histories And generally throughout al his writinges after once hee hath begunne with it hee neuer ceasseth to pursue his Allegory vntyl hee haue seene it playe the hangman vnto the natural sence and history For the drift and scope of all his doinges is to make vs keepe our eares shut against that which the Lorde doeth speake plainely vnto vs out of his woorde that we may onely reuerence these rydles that proceede from him selfe The woorde of GOD wil not suffer vs with H. N. to place and put into possession Allegories which be illegitimate that the naturall sence and signification of the woorde which is the lawful heire might thereby bee dispossessed and driuen out The practise of our Sauiour Christ of the Apostle Saint Paule is our president to vpholde the credite of the natural sence and meanyng of the woorde which Allegories beeyng suffered to haue so large alowance as H. N. doeth make them woulde soone driue out at the doores For the least part of an Historie as a worde and circumstance of time the whole whereof H. N. his Allegories woulde vnhorse and ouerthrow is with our Sauiour Christ aduaunced to the credite of deciding and determinyng matters of greatest weight and moment in religion Nowe yf aworde in his proper signification be so much made of with Christ the Apostles as that it shal be of sufficient credit to carry away a matter of greatest weight What wrong doeth H. N. offer the worlde that with Allegories would beare downe not the natiue sence onely of a woorde but of many wordes and sentences set togeather to maintaine a proper and naturall sence and signification Our Sauiour Christ when he will prooue him selfe the true Messias to be more then a man he vrgeth the naturall signification of the woorde Lorde that because Dauid whose sonne he was after the fleshe calleth him Lorde therefore it coulde not bee but that he was more then a meere man Moreouer in that weightie matter of iustification doeth not the Apostle stande vpon the signification of this worde impute which is euer vsed when fauour and mercy preuayleth
to the Churche of GOD howe pernicious to the common wealth and priuate families and howe farre from the spirite of GOD forasmuche as thereby the Lorde Iesus is bereft of all his kingly Priestly and Propheticall dignitie all godlinesse is ouer throwen a windowe is opened to all sinnes and wickednesse to fraude deceipt lying fornication theft idolatrie and couetousnesse and after this life the hope of eternall life in immortall fleshe and the feare of hel fire are taken from the mindes of men euery one hauing but a sparke of godlinesse and of the knowledge of Christ doeth easily perceiue so that there needeth not heere manye woordes for the confutation thereof This one thing is briefly to be added that it may not seme woonderfull to any yf many in our age doe fall into this so grosse an errour For in suche disagreementes of true religion men knowyng the Idolatrie of the papacie the whiche can bee vnknowen to none but too the dullest kinde of men and beeing terrified from the profession of true religion through the feare of persecutions troubles or of pride plucking away the shoulders from vnder the yooke of Christe doe moste easily fall into that moste detestable errour which is beautified with the Title of sweete peace and concorde is verie plausible through the large promise of lyberty God also is iust with punisheth this intollerable vnthankefulnes of the worlde agaynst Christ and his word with such grosse errours according to that prophecie of the Apostle Because they receiued not the loue of the trueth that they might be saued Therfore god wil send thē strōg delusion that they may beleeue lies ▪ that al they might bee damned which haue not beleued the truth but haue had pleasure in vnrighteousnesse But if any shal more diligently examine the Apostolical prophecies w are written in the 2. Tim. 3. 2 Pet. 2. 3. Chapter and in the epistle of Iude concerning the last times shal then be sufficiently armed against that diuelishe peace We are also admonished in the Scriptures that true peace is enclosed in certayne limites least we shoulde be deceiued with some vaine shadowe of peace For true peace is ioyned with an vnspeakable knot to faith and charitie It consisteth also in a good thing and that also according to Christ as it is manifest by these words of the Apostle Nowe abideth faith hope and charitie these three Again Let euery one of vs please his neighbour in that which is good or in a good thing to edificatiō Also The God of pacience and consolatiō giue you that yee bee lyke minded one towardes another according to Iesus Christe that yee with one minde and one mouth may prayse God euen the father of our Lord Iesus Christe Away therfore with this newe cursed peace togeather with the house the founder therof which passeth neither for faith nor hope and is occupied in euil thinges and forbidden of GOD and shutteth out Iesus Christe For yf the studie of peace excused not Aaron for makyng a Calfe nor Saule for sacrificing nor Peter for dissembling neither shall these truely escape vnpunished of the Lorde who vnder the title of peace ouerthrowe all honestie and religion especially seeing that the Prophetes in olde time haue vehemently cryed against all promise of false peace Esay also crieth Woe to them which call euill good and good euill which put darknesse for light and light for darkenesse who put sowre for sweete and sweete for sowre This same people of peace as they wil be called cannot free it selfe from this faulte whiles that it leaueth those thinges free to them of their owne profession which GOD in his woorde hath seuerely punished and moste greeuously condempned Hitherto therefore we hope it hath beene sufficiently shewed of vs howe greatly wee ought to take heede of them all who to the godly that are inlightened with the true knowledge of the Gospell wyl haue that departing from the impure congregations and superstitions of the Romishe Churche to be vnlawfull ⁂ A Confutation of the Doctrine of Dauid George and H. N. the Father of the Familie of Loue By M. Nicholas Charinaeus who died heere at London Minister of the woorde in the Dutch Churche about the beginning of September in the yeere 1563. DAVID George of whom mencion is made before added to the foresayde argumentes of the aduersaries agaynst the obseruation of the Ecclesiasticall congregations that the vse of all rytes and ceremonies instituted of Christe was simply taken away by him because that hee as he thought executing the office of the holy Ghost should lead al men into all trueth and shoulde bryng foorth that which was perfect and therfore shoulde abolishe that which was but in part And seeyng that hee fained that his doctrine is moste perfect more excellent and farre surpassing the doctrine of Christ as which must be constrained to geue place vnto him whatsoeuer the scripture witnesseth of mans perfection in the commyng of Christ al that hee so impudently draweth vnto hym selfe and to his doctrine that he promiseth vnto him self to his disciples the ful dominion of the whole world immortalitie also perfect righteousnes yea that in this flesh vnderstanding by the name of perfect righteousnes that same inward affection of the minde altogeather free from all sence of sinne But a certaine chiefe builder of the house and Citie of peace and a framer of that same glasse of righteousnesse perceiuing that yet that same full libertie was not permitted vnto men by Dauid George as he that yet bounde them vnto his person boasteth that hee hath found out a more perfect doctrine then that was of Dauids To wit that whosoeuer dwelleth in the house of Loue not onely is free from all religion of Christ but also altogeather from all outward religion and from all holy ceremonies Nowe he calleth loue that same affection of the minde by which a man neyther feeleth in hym selfe nor in any other any euyll or sinne but all thinges what soeuer they bee hee interpreteth them to bee good Now because the neere kindred of the opinions of both these Antichristes doe not onely bryng to nothyng the religious obseruation of Ecclesiastical congregations which come togeather in the name of Christ but also taketh out of the mindes of men the hope of the life to come in Christe Iesus and doeth open windowes doores to al iniquities I am constrayned to confute it in this place and that in fewe woordes First of all I require of both of them that they woulde playnely prooue by manyfest testimonies out of the holy Scripture that the doctrine of the Gospel of Iesus Christ must once bee abolished out of the Churche and a nother more perfect succeede in the place thereof and if it ought too bee abolished that it is theirs that ought to succeed it to continue for euer Besides that let them perfourme those thinges in deede which the holy Scripture
but neuer when men are dealt withall according to desert And because the Prophet Dauid had ascribed blessednesse to that man to whom the Lorde imputeth not his sinnes and it was written likewyse that Abraham his faith was imputed vnto him for righteousnes hee is not afrayde to set it downe as an assured trueth that our iustification commeth by mercy and fauour and not by merite and desert So that the naturall signification of the woorde doeth carry away iustification from works and geueth it by good right vnto fauour and grace Wherin this is also woorth the obseruation because wee are about the force and credite of the naturall sence and Historie of the woorde that the Apostle layeth great weight vpon the circumstance of time which the Historie doeth yeelde vnto him insomuche that because righteousnesse was imputed vnto Abrahā as appeareth in Genesis by that historie before he was circumcised he concludeth that iustification standeth by fauour and mercy alone and needeth not to be vnderpropped by woorkes for that Abraham before circumsicion which was with them as is baptisme with vs the entraunce into religion and seruice of God the first beginnyng to obey to the woorde and wyll of GOD was reckoned of God him selfe as a righteous man Yf there be suche weight in the woords and circumstances which are the least part of the history then doeth H.N. as was sayde before offer great wrong vnto vs who in his Allegories drowneth not only circumstances and the naturall signification of words but also the proper sence of Histories and whole sentences when they are set togeather The Heretiques in all tymes haue by Allegories vpholdē their errors And Allegories in al ages haue been theyr strongest instruments to woorke with all Epiphanius maketh mention of a beastly sort of Heretiques who by Allegories maintayned the sinne of the Sodomites not onely as a thing that might be suffered but as a duetie that must be doone most shamefully racking to the defence of that shamelesse opinion these woordes of our Sauiour Christe Verily I say vnto thee thou shalt not come out thence tyl thou haue payde the vttermost farthing The Heretiques called Priscillianistae who taught that it was lawful to lie and forsweare in causes of religion thereby to hyde theyr religion and shameful life from the daunger of theyr aduersaries by Allegories did auoide whatsoeuer out of the Scripture was brought agaynst them These bee the woordes of Augustine touching those persons and that matter in suos sensus Allegorizando vertunt quicquid in sanctis libris est quod eorum euertat errorem Whatsoeuer is founde in the Scripture that ouerthroweth theyr errour by an Allegoricall exposition they make it to maintayne the same And the Anabaptistes nowe in our dayes with Allegories as it were with Rackettes doe tosse the Scriptures too and fro like tennes balles to serue their turne withall And who knoweth not that Allegories are the hookes wherewithall the Romishe Churche hath pulled vp theyr Purgatorie and suche other pelfe of theirs Hierome sayth of Origen that by his Allegorizing hee made his owne wit Sacramentes of the Churche These bee his woordes Origines liberis Allegoriae spaciis euagatur ingenium suum facit Ecclesiae Sacramenta In as muche as in an Allegory there is one thynge spoken and an other ment the Heretiques of all times haue drawne the scriptures generally without any respect into Allegories that whatsoeuer the woordes bee they might haue libertie to make a meaning therevnto of and for themselues and that without any helpe at all from the matter that is in hande Nowe the Allegories and figuratiue speaches vsed in the Scriptures muste haue their meaning made manifest and beaten out by the circumstance of the places from whence they are taken and by helpe from the matter which is in hande neyther may any place in the Scripture be vrged in an Allegoricall sence vnlesse the same taken litterally and in the Gramaticall sence shall establishe some thing repugnant eyther to faith or Charitie ¶ A plaine proofe that the darke and obscure forme of writing which H. N. vseth is an euident note of the Spirite of errour and deceite THe greate obscuritie darkenes of speache which H. N. vseth in al his workes bewraieth his doctrine spirite suficiētly if we had no other matter to charge him withal For the truth is simple and plaine Ethnickes could by the light of nature sufficiently see into such things One of them touching that matter saith thus Veritatis sermo est simplex apertus nec variis indiget explicationibus ambagibus sed iniusta causa cum per se sit morbida necessario indiget astutis pharmacis The truth sayth he is simple and plaine needeth not varietie of windlaces and fetchinges of matters about the bushe but an euill cause in that it is sicke and diseased hath neede to haue a cunning plaister conueied vnto it An other of them hath these woordes Simplex sententia est communis ac omnibus vsitata nihil admodum profundi astuté cogitati habens aut etiam aliud quid celans That phrase and forme of speaking hath simplicitie in it which is common and vsed of al hauing in it nothing craftily deuised neither cloking some other thing then is professed I leaue it to the iudgemēt of euery indifferent man whether H. N. his stile were able to abide euen this touchestone geuen vs of the Ethnicks to trie the trueth withal for what strange words hath he deuised frō that the scripture vseth to expresse the same thing by And how doth he after once he hath begon a thing by continual winding in of words drawe a man so far frō the place wher he was that hardly can he get home againe Moreouer how craftily doth he vse the worde and name of Christ for all that meane no other thing thereby then that estate of perfection which himself hath deuised so that if heathen men hauing no other euidence then that whiche the light of nature doeth geue them might bee permitted to passe vpon him hee woulde vndoubtedly bee founde guiltie euen by them of false and corrupt doctrine In the worde of God which is a rule of all righteousnesse vnto vs the borowed speaches which bee most obscure be taken from matters vsuall and commonly falling out in the life affaires of men For who knoweth not what the Lorde his meaning is when he calleth himselfe eyther away a doore or a vine And if al the similitudes parables and borowed speaches in the Scriptures bee examined they shal be founde to haue bene drawen and deriued from such matters as the people then were well acquainted withall This simplicitie plainnesse of the woorde which is a rule to al them that are guided by that spirite which spake in the same is very plainly proued out of the Prouerbes of Solomon vnder the person of wisedome Al the wordes of my mouth are righteous