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a_o friend_n of_o purgatory_n but_o only_o that_o we_o must_v stay_v a_o little_a while_n for_o your_o pleasure_n humberti_fw-la pur._n 142.143_o emis_fw-la ho._n 3._o de_fw-fr epipha_n ber._n in_o vita_fw-la humberti_fw-la with_o eusebius_n emissenus_fw-la though_o he_o you_o take_v for_o a_o counterfeit_n and_o s._n bernard_n because_o these_o two_o set_v forth_o very_o terrible_o but_o true_o the_o pain_n of_o purgatory_n therefore_o with_o you_o the_o one_o show_v himself_o a_o utter_a enemy_n to_o the_o release_n of_o the_o same_o and_o the_o other_o deni_v the_o remedy_n or_o remission_n of_o they_o as_o if_o you_o will_v say_v that_o the_o holy_a scripture_n also_o where_o it_o preach_v god_n justice_n deni_v his_o mercy_n though_o in_o other_o place_n it_o preach_v his_o mercy_n no_o less_o for_o see_v you_o not_o s._n bernard_n as_o earnest_n also_o for_o the_o remedy_n of_o those_o pain_n where_o d._n allen_n allege_v he_o call_v your_o friend_n the_o apostolicie_n of_o his_o 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name_v in_o the_o priest_n prayer_n at_o the_o altar_n et_fw-la ideo_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o therefore_o there_o be_v no_o cause_n that_o any_o pray_n shall_v there_o with_o you_o be_v use_v in_o the_o church_n in_o his_o name_n for_o heed_n may_v be_v take_v hereafter_o that_o this_o be_v do_v no_o more_o if_o this_o fact_n now_o be_v punish_v by_o which_o appear_v again_o that_o it_o be_v but_o mere_a cavil_v when_o you_o distinguish_v between_o oblation_n of_o the_o dead_a 259._o pur._n 259._o &_o oblation_n for_o the_o dead_a because_o oblation_n of_o the_o dead_a themselves_o no_o less_o then_o of_o their_o friend_n be_v oblation_n for_o the_o dead_a as_o s._n cyprian_n here_o express_o call_v it_o offerri_fw-la pro_fw-la eo_fw-la to_o offer_v for_o he_o and_o therefore_o make_v against_o you_o not_o only_o the_o second_o toletane_v council_n as_o you_o also_o