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A54120 The Christian-Quaker and his divine testimony vindicated by Scripture, reason, and authorities against the injurious attempts that have been lately made by several adversaries, with manifest design to rendor him odiously inconsistent with Christianity and civil society : in II parts. / The first more general by William Penn ; the second more particular by George Whitehead. Penn, William, 1644-1718.; Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723. 1674 (1674) Wing P1266; ESTC R37076 464,302 582

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all that may be Necessary to be known therefore the Light is Insufficient The first will be answer'd by what I have already said the Reason being the same for the Sufficiency of the Light against such as charge it with Defect because they do not do what they should as against those who so impeach it because they do those things which they should not As for not knowing all that is to be known I deny it utterly For things are necessary in reference to their proper times That may be requisit to morrow which is not to day It is fit for Children to learn to read yet it is most necessary that they should begin to spell first If a School-Master should be charg'd with Insufficieney because he tells not little Children all that he knows as soon as he initiates them in the first Principles of Learning he would think himself unreasonably dealt with What must we then conclude but that the Master may be very capable were his Scholar so that if the Scholar observe and obey his Master he will increase in his Learning that the Defect of the Scholar should not be laid upon his Master that to tell or amuse him about things unsuitable to his present Capacity were the ready Way to overcharge and wholy Spoile him And Consequently that the Tutor not telling his Pupil all that is fit to be known at once implyes no Defect in or Ignorance of those things in the Tutor which to apply Scripturally in short thus If you do my Will you shall know more of my Doctrine I have yet many things to say but you are not able to bear them now In short If for a Man to say that the Light of the Gospel for so T. Hicks thinks Pauls was to be charg'd with Insufficiency because it discover'd not to every Believer all those ineffable things revealed to the Apostle would be both False and Antichristian to what an Extremity doth Tho. Hicks's Zeal lead him in his passionate Endeavours against the blessed Light of the Son of God as he is the Inlightner of Mankind who charges it with Insufficiency because it Reveals not to every Individual in every Age what HE shall ever know it self or shall be known in future times The Light then is not Insufficient though it tell not all at one time which may be a Duty to the End of the World especially in extraordinary Cases whilst it informs me or any Man of Daily Duty Yea the Light is Sufficient in Point of Discovery whilst it shews unto any Person something more then they do and which they ought to perform If T. Hicks will say and can prove that he is come to the Upshot of the Light 's Teachings that he has Learnt whatever it is possible for the Light of Christ to Teach him and yet is able to make appear that there is some thing further wanting he will prove himself not only above Men but God also who is the Fountain of all Light that searcheth the Hearts and tryeth the Reins of Men by the Inshinings of his manifesting Light and which as obey'd leads to God who is the Fulness of all Light and Life But indeed this Light is the Savour of Death the Wages of Sin to all that Rebel against it and the Savour of Life to those only who are Obedient to it For Such shall not walk in Darkness but have the Light of Life But whilst he pleads against a Sin-less State and shows so Sin-full an One in his Scribles let him cover his Face for Shame for all his Attempts against the Lights Sufficiency for in that State he shall never know the Life and Vertue of the Light To conclude If the Light be allowed to Manifest all things that are Reproveable then by the just Reason of Contraries should it be Sufficient to Discover all things that are Approveable with respect to Man's Faith Salvation and Duty If the Light tells it is Evil not to Believe in God it follows that to Believe in God is according to that Light Within And if it Reproves T. Hicks for being Passionate it consequently Teacheth him that he ought to be Patient If the Light Condemns Theft it necessarily Instructeth to Honesty If it Reprove me for doing my own Will it implies I ought to do his Will to whom I ow all and if it Reproves for Sin it Instructeth to Holiness without which none shall see God In short If it Manifest Reproveable Things to be such at the same time It Condemns them and Teacheth Things quite Contrary The Unfruitful Works of Darkness are judg'd by the Light that the Holy Fruits of the Light may appear ●…e were Darkness but now are ye Light in the Lord and The Reproof of Instruction is the Way of Life He that comes out of the Reproved Darkness walks in the Approved Light and who so answers the Holy Reproof unto Such is Sealed up THE INSTRUCTION OF THE WAY OF LIFE And this brings me to the third Property of the Light with respect to Men and that is It doth not only Manifest and Condemn Sin and discover and incline to Purity but as adhered to or rather that Principle which is this Light it is able in Point of Power and Efficacy to Redeem from Sin and Lead to a State of Highest Felicity I am the Light of the World said Jesus himself he that follows me shall not walk in Darkness but shall have the Light of Life In which it is very evident that The same Light which Manifests Darkness Redeems from it unto a State of Light and Life that is to say Those who confidently believe in Christ as he manifests himself a Light to condemn Sin in every mans Flesh whom he hath therefore illuminated and obediently follow the Holy Requirings and yield to the Heavenly Discoveries of that Blessed Appearance relinquishing the Pleasures of Sin which last but for a season and taking up the daily Cross such shall most assuredly find that Divine Principle which in reference to the Dark State of Men and that Discerning and Conviction it brings is rightly denominated Light to have also Power and Efficacy to Save from that which it manifests and condemns and to bring unto that Glory which it gives a true Revelation of For that same Word of God who is called the true Light that inlighteneth all Mankind is also the Life Power Wisdom and Righteousness of the Father in whom are hid all the Treasures of Wisdom and unto whom all Power both in Heaven and in Earth are committed who is Heir of all things who also said While ye have the Light for their Day of Visitation was almost over or as some Translations more truly have it While you have a little Light IN YOU believe or walk in it believe in the Light that ye may be Children of th●… Light Again I am come a Light into the World that whosoever believes in me should not abide in Darkness
and overturn the Gentiles Idolatries by his one most pure and Spiritual Offering and Worship IV. It plainly preaches thus much to us That as Him whose Body the Jews outwardly slew we by Wicked Works have crucified in the Streets of Sodom and Egypt spiritually so called our polluted Hearts and Consciences So unless we come to know the Benefit of the Inward Life answering to and expressed by that Outward Life he gave for the World it will avail little For so it is and very Marvelous in our Eyes that the Life of the Crucified can only save those who may well be reputed the Crucifiers O Mystery And because those that did not actually slay him Outwardly have slain him Inwardly therefore must every such one really know that Life Inwardly raised shed abroad for Sanctification and Redemption O how great was his Love Truly larger then Man's Cruelty who whilst he dyed by Wicked Men he would Dye for them and when dead they could not hinder him from Rising to do them good who had done their worst for his Destruction thereby shewing Mercy to those who shewed they had no Mercy for themselves O Jerusalem Jerusalem how often would I have gathered thee and thou wouldest not c V. That Expression of his is greatly worth our Notice I lay down my Life for the World All he did was for the Good of the World and particularly the Laying down of his Life that he might both express his Love and our Duty Had he not desired Man's Salvation and for that purpose prepared a Body in which to visit him and by his daily Labours among Men to further their Eternal Happiness the Jew had never been able to put him to Death But being come and when come so hardly used herein did he recommend his great Love to us that besides the Inward Weights of Sin he bore with his deep Concernment for Man's Eternal Well-being he chearfully offered up his Bodily Life to recommend and ratifie his Love for the Remission of Sin and give us an Holy Example to follow his Steps But these Words will bear another Sease too as do those he spoak to the Jews Unless ye eat my Flesh and drink my Blood you have no Life in you Where we may plainly see that as the Jews vainly and carnally fancyed he meant his Outward Body only to which they opposed the Impossibility of the thing so Christ declares their Mistake of his Meaning to his Disciples in these few but deep Words The Flesh profiteth nothing it is the Spirit that quickeneth So that the Words are true and weighty in both Senses VI. And we further acknowledge that in that Holy Body the Divine Principle of Light and Life did discover the Depth of Satan's Darkness encounter Hell Death and the Grave every Temptation it was possible for the Serpent with all his Power and Subtilty to beset him with in which Sense he was made like unto us in all things Sin excepted that he might be sensible of our Infirmities the Divine Life travelled and supported under all administring Strength to the outward Man that it might answer the End of its Appointment in the End utterly defeated and forever overcame the Power of the Tempter bruising the Serpents Head in general as Prince of Darkness and God of the World and in a plain Combat giving him that Foyl which in good measure shook his Foundation divided his Kingdom chased away his Lying Oracles and proved a very Fatal Blow to his whole Empire Which holy Conquest obtained by Sweat of Blood and deep'st Agonies with Holy Patience may not unfitly be compared to that of some Worldly Prince maintaining a Righteous Cause against an Usurper of his Territories whom he puts to rout in open Fields by which I understand the General Conquest yet many Towns and Cities and Cittadels remaining strongly guarnison'd by which I understand particular Men and Women enslaved by Sin they are not thereby overcome though the Approach be easier to them and they be truly more endanger'd then before The One Seed who is Christ who is God over all blessed forever having given that Proof of his Everlasting Arm that it has brought a general Salvation by a plain Overthrow of the God of this World the Enemy of his Glory and thereby weakened his Power in himself which is the single Battel fought in Garments rould in Blood between the two Seeds Spirits Natures and Powers God and Mammon Christ and Belial had many Towns Cities and Cittadels to vanquish who lay strongly guarnison'd by this God of the World which Places as I said represent the Souls of particular Men and Women inbondaged by him So that though their Hearts were or are more accessible by that general Victory over the very Spirit of Darkness it self and Light may be more clear d and broken up yet unless those particular Places or Persons are besieged and taken their Goods spoiled and Houses sackt of all the strange Gods so redeemed from under the Yoak of that Pharaonian Task-Master reclaimed renewed sanctified naturalized by way of an Holy Subjection to him who is Lord from Heaven the Right Heir of all things to receive his Mark and bear his Image Those Places or Persons must needs have yet been and be Subjects of the Prince of Darkness the God of this World who reigns and rules in the Hearts of the Children of Disobedience To conclude We though this General Victory was obtained and holy Priviledges therewith and that the Holy Body was not Instrumentally without a Share thereof yet that both the efficient or chiefest Cause was the Divine Light and Life that so clearly discriminated and deeply wounded this Mystery of Iniquity and that none can be thereby benefited but as they come to experience that Holy Seed of Life and Mighty Arm of Power revealed to effect the same Salvation in each Particular Conscience which none can fail of who receive it first as a Light that manifesteth and reproveth every Evil Way and continues to walk up to all its holy Leadings VII But there is yet a further Benefit that accrueth by the Blood of Christ viz. That Christ is a Propitiation and Redemption to such as have Faith in it For though I still place the Stres●… of particular Benefit upon the Light Life Spirit revealed witnessed in every Particular yet in that general Appearance there was a general Benefit justly to be attributed unto the Blood of that very Body of Christ to wit that it did propitiate For however it might draw Stupendious Judgments upon the Heads of those who were Authors of that dismal Tragedy and dyed Impenitent yet doubtless it thus far turned to very great Account in that it was a most precious Offering in the Sight of the Lord and drew God's Love the more eminently unto Mankind at least such as should believe in his Name as his solemn Prayer to his Father at his leaving the World given us by his beloved Disciple
not that a little degree of the Light Vertue and Knowledge thereof is not saving or sanctifying A small Stream can wash and a little Fire kindle and increase to more and a little convenient Food nourish and satisfie and a little Water quench one's Thirst or a small Seed grow and bring forth great Increase and so a little Light from Christ can increase and shine more and more till it discover the Glory of God in the Face of Jesus Christ the anointed these things are truely known in the Mystery through true Obedience to so much Light or Illumination as God hath given man for he the Glorious Creator hath given a Light to all men sufficient to save or else they could not be left without Excuse but it would reflect upon him for condemning them for Sin if he did not afford them a Light sufficient to guide out of Sin unto Salvation But for our asserting the Light of Christ that is in every Man to be convincing sanctifying and saving H. G. concludes as followeth p. 5. III. The Effect of Christ's Sufferings only known in his Light within H. G. IN this appears your great Darkness and herein you are beguiled and cheated by the Devil to the invalidating of the Meritorious Death and Sufferings of our Lord as if there were no need of his Blood to be poured forth nor of his Intercession p. 5. Answ. Can either Christ's Light within or our following of it invalidate or make void his Sufferings without Or deprive us of the End thereof or of the Vertue of his Blood When they that crucified murthered Christ were turned from his Light within Or can any receive the Benefit of Christ's Sufferings and Blood without or out of his Light within Or are the Sufferings and Death of Christ absolutely meritorious for Man's Justification without any Dependance upon his Light within If so how can any be deprived of Justification for whom Christ dyed Which was for all Men but what Proof hath he from Scripture That the shedding Christ's Blood was the Meritorious Cause of Justification Seeing it was shed by wicked Hands and surely had the Jews and Gentiles obeyed and walked in that holy and just Light that was in them they had not crucified nor murthered the just One the Son of God whose giving up to the Death of the Cross though of Necessity yet it was occasioned because of Sin and Death that was come over all which man must only be convinced and truely sensible of by the Light of Christ within and it s such only as walk in his Light who come to know the Blood of Christ to cleanse them from all Sin And there is a certain Congruity and Oneness in being sanctified redeemed and saved by his Life Light Blood Power Arm Ingrafted Word Spirit Fire Water or by Grace these do not oppose Christ as Saviour he being in all the great Workman of God through whom God hath saved us by the washing of Regeneration and renewing of the holy Ghost Titus 3. 4 5. These being one in Substance with him and of himself as the Spirit the Water and the Blood agree in one And as his offering up himself being a Propitiation for the Sins of the whole World pouring out his Soul to Death and making Intercession for the Transgressors was by the Eternal Spirit so the blessed Effects thereof are spiritually and inwardly received by them that obey and walk in the Light of his Spirit wherein his Life and Vertue of the Blood of the Covenant is received unto Cleansing Sanctification and Reconciliation with God The great Sufferings Burthens and Afflictions of Christ were occasioned by man's Sin Disobedience and turning from his Life and Light within and this brought Darkness and Death over Man-kind and therefore Christ deeply travelled in the Spirit of Prayer and Intercession through all his Sufferings to bring forth his own Life and Light for man's Deliverance out of Death and Darkness that he might see his Seed and the Travel of his Soul and be satisfied And this is the Seed that shall serve him throughout all Ages which shall be counted unto the Lord for a Generation and this serves him in his Light and worships him in Spirit therefore they that oppose this Light of Christ to the End of Christ's Coming Death Sufferings Blood or Intercession as if his Light in Man did invalidate these they are darkned and cheated by the Devil and not these who obey Christ's Light within for Life and Savation in him IV. The saving Work of the Spirit HEnry Grigg observes from John 16. 7. That the Spirit or blessed Comforter cannot be the Saviour pag. 46. H. G. Contradiction Till the Coming of his Spirit and Grace with Power in my Heart for the binding of the strong man Satan and killing my Corruptions my Soul was not brought out of the horrible Pit p. 16. having wrought this glorious Work of Regeneration p. 17. G. W. his Animadversion Then it s the Spirit and Power of Christ that effects Salvation through the Work of Regeneration Tit. 3. 5. which is not meerly by Christ's outward Sufferings though we cannot believe that Satan is bound in this Man while he is in Satan's Work blaspheming Christ's Light within and belying us H. G. replyes What sober Christian Man can find any Contradiction here against H. G Is not G. W. the Lyar and false Accuser I say the Spirit or blessed Comforter cannot be the Saviour or Mediator p. 6. G. W. Answer The Contradiction is very obvious to say the Spirit cannot be the Saviour when it can save the Soul out of the horrible Pit can it save and not be a Saviour Or can it bind the strong Man or kill man's Corruptions and yet not save him And if the Father the Word and the holy Spirit be God cannot God be the Saviour When as Christ's being the Author of Faith giving Power to others to become the Sons of God is a Proof of his being God Light from the Sun p. 91. And Christ said The Son can do nothing of himself c. The Father that dwelleth in me he doth the Works Joh. 5. 19. 30. and 8. 28. and 14. 10. And the holy Spirit where received also maketh Intercession according to the Will of God and by this Spirit Christ prayed unto the Father but to say the Spirit or blessed Comforter cannot be the Saviour is also to deny Christ in his spiritual Appearance to be a Saviour and so to confine the saving Work to him only as man or in the Flesh without or separate from us whereas he said I will not leave you comfortless I will come to you John 14. 18. which plainly denotes him to be the Comforter in that Spiritual Appearance wherein he that was with them promised to be in them and as revealed in them his Appearance was another or diverse to his outward Appearance in the Flesh whereas H. G. saith Are there not three that bear Record in
remit or pardon Offences past without such a severe Payment and Satisfaction as is implyed because as some say he dispenseth not with the Act of Law If he could so punish his Innocent Son to the full who never offended was not this a Dispensing with the Act of Law when the Law was made for Offenders and added because of Transgression and to punish such for it was not made to punish an Innocent or Righteous Man against whom there is no Law But if to pardon former Transgression upon true Repentance and to save Man from Sin and Wrath be not inconsistent with the infinite Goodness and Mercy of God himself and to be both a just God and a Saviour were not Inconsistent then his divine Justice consisted not in such Severity as to obliege him from shewing Mercy witho●…t such a rigid Satisfaction and Payment as that of punishing his Son to the full and pouring out his Wrath upon him for the Sin of Mankind Whereas where Remission of Sin is obtained there is both a Relaxation of the Severity of the Law and a manifest Effect of the Propitiation or sweet smelling Sacrifice of Christ as Mediator and Advocate and not as the Object of Wrath Revenge and full Punishment from God that is due to Sin and that to acquit the Sinners continuing therein And his not sparing his own Son but delivering him up for us all and his being made a Curse for us was neither equivalent to that of Eternal Death Curse and Damnation which Sin and Sinners have deserved nor doth it absolve Man from his Obedience to the Law of the new Covenant or Spirit of Life in Christ though it was for a Relaxation of the Law as to the Bondage thereof and in order to abolish and end the first Covenant and the Curse thereof yet not to pardon or justifie Men in Sin against the second Nor is it any Loosening but a Reinforcing of the Terms thereof for he took away the first that he might establish the second he removed ●…nd ended the Shadows that he might exalt the Substance that was vailed under them he blotted out the Hand-writing of Ordinances nailed it to his Cross that he might reinforce the Law of the new Covenant written in the Heart that we might not be without Law to God but under the Law to Christ He did both fulfil the Law in hs Person and doth fulfil the Righteousness of it in them that walk not after the Flesh but after the Spirit he did not only remove the shadowy Part of the Law and the Curse thereof through his Suffering and Sacrifice but also he actually delive●…s the Soul from the inward Terrors Condemnation and Wrath of the Law upon true Repentance and Contrition of Heart in Remission and Pardon through Faith in his Blood being virtuously felt and efficaciously evidenced by his holy Spirit unto the Soul that hath a Part in Christ as the Propitiation for the Sins of the whole World whose Blood bears Record in the Earth agrees in one with the Spirit sprinkleth the Consci●…nce from dead Works speaketh forth Mercy and Forgiveness better things then that of Abel Besides Christ was as well exemplary as propiriat●…ry or gracious in his Sufferings which had both a blessed Accep●…ance and Eff●…ct with G●…d and a spiritual Influence upon them that follow him in Spirit further then the Historical Faith and Relation thereof as he said If any Man serve me let him follow me and where I am there shall also my Servant b●… J●…h 12. 26. And thus far is his Example spiritually fulfilled in them that follow him as namely Jesus Christ was outwardly c●…rcumcised baptized crucified put to Death as concerning the Flesh buried quickned raised up by the Power of God c. His Followers or Servants are spiritually circumcised baptized into his Death or crucified with him buried with him by Baptism as Partakers of the Fellowship of his Suff●…rings quickned by his Spirit raised up by his Power into the Likeness of his Resurrection and having suffered with him shall reign with him And now in Opposition to the Doctrine of such a rigid and Severe Satisfaction as is by divers asserted 〈◊〉 must tell my Opposers that though the Chastisement of our Peace was upon him and by his Stripes we are said to be healed this is neither of the Nature of Revenge from God Wrath or Punishment to the full that is due for Sin nor doth it exempt or free them who come to be his Followers from being liable at all to God's Chastisement or Correction in their own particulars when there is Cause for it for whom he loves them also he doth correct which is not Revenge as 't is said If my Children forsake my Law and keep not my Commandments then will I visit their Transgressions with the Rod and their Iniquity with Stripes nevertheless my loving Kindness will I not utterly take from them c. Psa. 89. 30 31 32 33. This concerned David and his Seed who notwithstanding did so undergoe the Chastisements of the Lord that he went often in a bowed down and mournful State as when he complained My God my God why hast thou forsaken me c. Psa. 22. which were the same Words Christ u●…tered in his deep Suffering Mat. 27. 4●… plainly i●…timating how he took upon him the Sufferings and Bur●…en of his People and his bearing the Sin and 〈◊〉 of many wherein it 's evident that they that ●…ollow Christ through the Work of Regeneration and obtain the new Birth do spiritually pass through the Fellowship of Christ's Sufferings and do partake of their due Shares thereof both for their Remission and to obliege them to follow him in his own Way of Light and Life whereby they who are faithful to him witnes the Blood Cove●…ant the Coverant that cleanseth from Sin and an Interest in that everlasting 〈◊〉 This is the Way a●…d Passage of the Ra●…somed o●… the Lord who through his Judgment and Chastis●…ments have 〈◊〉 a Ransom received the Attonement and an Interest in the Everlasting 〈◊〉 of Li●… and Glory Having thu●… 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to the Matter in general I come further to 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 particular Passages that chiefly concern me to 〈◊〉 S. S. Th●… La●…●…ver a●…ows us to sin if at ten Years of Age a Person commits M●…er a●…d then lives according to the Law of the Land in ev●… 〈◊〉 ●…rty Years then arraigned for this the Judge cannot pro●…ounce him Innocent and so acquit him because the Law did not allow him to commit Murther any Part of his Life p. 93. Answ. A Truth in both 1st The Law never allows us to sin no more doth Grace or the Gospel Shall we sin because we are no more under the Law but under Grace God forbid for how can we that are dead unto Sin live any longer therein 2dly Justice cannot pronounce a Guilty Person Innocent upon the Cessation from the meer Act of Unrighteousness but God's lovin●… Kindness and
Beloved in whom we are created again unto good Works How can Christ's sinless Obedience from the beginning of Life to the end which takes in his Conformity to the Law be imputed to the Guilty and fallen Creature or that Conformity be the Everlasting Righteousness wherewith the true Believer is invested when as 't is not the Works of the Law but the Righteousness of Faith that Justifies and Recommends to God And this is inwardly poss●…ssed where true Faith and the Obedience thereof is injoyed and Lived in it is not Christ's Conformity to the Law that Justifies us but his making us conformable to his own Image and Partakers of his Everlasting Righteousness for which God pronounceth us just for men are not imputatively Righteous or Just when actually condemned as Guilty Sinful Fallen Creatures And further I deny that Christ's Conformity to the Law whilst on Earth doth either constitute or reckon us righteous from the Beginning of Life to the End for that God according to his Grace and Mercy forgiveth Sins that are past before Faith and after his Visitation and Mercy is received the Law and Righteousness of Faith enjoyns us to Newness and Holiness of Life without which he will not acquit us He will not acquit the Wicked If I sin thou markest me and wilt acquit me from mine Iniquity Job 10. And then shall we sin because we are no more under the Law but under Grace God forbid c. His saying But were the Works of Faith perfect yet could they not be a justifying Righteousness p. 95. Though Righteousness in the Abstract and as it is everlasting doth not consist or is not made up of any Work outward or temporal Acts yet to conclude that the Works of Faith ●…hough perfect cannot be justi●…ing is contrary to the Apostle's Testimony of being justified by Faith whereby we have Peace with God and you see ●…hou that ●…Y WO●…KS A MAN IS JUSTIFIED and n●…t by Faith only Was not our Father Abraham justified by W●…ks when he offered up his Son Isaac A●…d God will ordain Peace for us for he hath wrought all ●…ur Works in us Isa. 26. and then are not his Works in us ●…ding to our Justification and Acceptance being recko●…d ours as wrought in us Are not these accounted of wit●… the Lord from the Dignity of himself that worketh them For to him it is said thou hast also wrought all eur Works in us To that Question Will he say that Abraham did not in Faith circumcise his Son Answ. But he was Justified before that for Faith was reckoned to Abraham for Righteousness when he was in Uncircumcision Though every Act of true and living Obedience both before under and since the Law was done in Faith yet are they not made Righteous by the meer Works but by that Power and Spirit of Faith that works them And If A S we are made Sinners and condemnable by One Man's Disobedience we be S O made Righteous and Justifiable by the Obedience of One then we must be as really made Righteous in the second Adam as we were Sinners in the first Adam A S in Adam all dye S O in Christ shall all be made alive A S we have born the Image of the Earthly S O we must bear the Image of the Heavenly which is not from a meer Imputation o●… either without a real Participation They are not Innocent or Clear in themselves who are either made or reckoned Sinners by one Man's Disobedience nor are they without the Participation of Christ's Righteousness in themselves who are made Righteous by his Obedience They that receive abundance of Grace and of the Gift of Righteousness shall reign in Life by Jesus Christ Death hath passed upon all men for that all have sinned Sin hath really reigned in man unto Death and so must Grace reign through Righteousness unto Eternal Life God's Imputations or Reckonings to Man are true whom he reckons Sinners are inherently such and whom he reckons Righteous are so likewise but the Hypocrite who can Justifie the Wicked is an Abomination unto God Howbeit contrary to what I have said S. S. reasons viz. We are not Partakers of this by our actual Commission of it I●… cannot be said we are Par●…ers of Adam's Sin in that we are personal Offenders it must be therefore by Go●…●…mputation Obs. By this he hath explained his ●…se of the Imputation of Ada●…'s Sin and Christ's 〈◊〉 and s●… of 〈◊〉 and Justification and ●…o by this Rom. 〈◊〉 ●…9 is thus to be read AS by One man's Disobe●…ience many were made Si●…ners that were not actual Sinners SO by the Obedience of One many are made Righteous who never actually obeyed an easy pleasant and Sin-pleasing Doctrine for the Ungodly Sinners and Hypocrites ●…rom whence also it follows that they are condemnable by Adam ' s Disobedience Children are not excepted he saith who never committed actual Transgression and so they are Justified by Christ's intire Obedience who never actually obe●…yed him and what 's this but still the old Abomination to Condemn the Innocent and Justifie the Guilty or Wicked S. S. adds Let the words be weighed by one man's Disobedience many were made Sinners it is not here said By many Personal Disobediences we are made Sinners though this be true c. p. 96. Rep. By one man Sin entered into the World Death by Sin yet it is not Adam's Sin intirely as a particular Person that is imputed though from one Offence sprung many ●…or Death reigning in Man is an Effect of his own sinning being in the Nature and Image of the first Man in whom all dye Death hath passed over all Men for that all have sinned even over as many as have not sinned after the Similitude of Adam's Transgression which still implies they have sinned after some Similitude or Manner yea many in a more gross Manner then Adam sinned that yet think themselves Imputatively Righteous It was not only the Offence as committed by him alone but the Offence or Sin and Nature of Enmity continued and committed by men themselves and also springing up into many Offences which makes many Sinners As it is not the Father's eating sower Grapes alone that sets the Childrens Teeth an Edge but every Man that eateth the sower Grape his Teeth shall be set on Edge the Soul that sinneth it shall dye every man shall dye for his own Iniquity And further Why should Adam as a particular Person be so very much exclaimed against and blamed whereby many Hypocrites think to ease themselves and over look their own Iniquities seeing that you know not but that Adam found Repentance and Forgiveness However since Adam sinned there were Righteous Generations left namely Seth whom God appointed unto Adam as another Seed in stead of Abel Gen. 4. 25 26. and 5. 3. and afterward Enoch came forth who walked with God Gen. 5. 24. and Noah and his Family with whom God renewed
with Intention to leave them without Recovery which though all in curreth the same End as is supposed to a certain fore designed Number of Persons yet the State of the Case as it reflects upon God is as much opposite and contrary as to say God doth absolutely eternally decree Man's Destruction or did reprobate them from Eternity and then that he purposely passeth by and leaves them to destroy or kill themselves whereas his good Will and Kindness and free Proffers of Grace and Salvation to lost Man admits of neither to wit neither of such Cruelty to nor Carelesness of his Creatures his Mercies are over all his Works and his Grace and Mercy in the first place extending to all And that saying He will have Mercy on whom he will is no Limitation to the first extent of his Grace and good Will But that he will have Mercy both by way of Encrease and Continuance to the Upright-hearted even to them that fear him who Love and obey him but those that are destroyed their Destruction is of themselves as it is written But my People would not hearken unto my Voice Israel would none of me Therefore mark the Cause I gave them over to their own Hearts Lusts Psal. 81. 11. and as S. S. in Contradiction to himself saith Nor doth God consume any Man meerly as his own Workmanship but he adds God endureth with much long Suffering unregenerate men and they fit themselves for Destruction pag. 113. See here how the Man breaks the Neck of his own Cause Is his Opinion of God's Eternally reprobating and ordaining partiticular Persons to Destruction come to this That now while he sheweth long Suffering towards them they fit themselves for Destruction that is they rebel against God resist his Spirit and despise the Riches of his Grace and slight his long Suffering and Patience till they bring swift Destruction upon themselves And this God is not the Cause of He doth not unchangeably ordain whatsoever comes to pass Sin and Rebellion in the Wicked and their Striving against him Isa. 45. 9. are come to pass which he is not the Author of Wo unto him that Strives with his Maker thou hast hid thy Face from us and we are consumed because of our Iniquities which God is neither the Author nor Cause of S. S. God's Election is unchangeable he will certainly bring in never finally reject that Soul he had taken Liking to Nothing sect 7 can fall out not Sin it self causing God to alter his Purpose he foresaw all c. p. 113. Answ. His Election and Purpose thereof where made sure and confirmed by his Spirit in his Sanctified ones who are established in his Grace is unalterable But 1st There are Degrees and Growths in a State of Election before Establishment as those to whom Peter wrote his first Epistle were called Elect according to the fore-Knowledge of God through Sanctification of the Spirit unto Obedience c. 1 Pet. 1. 2. These though Elected so far as they were chosen out of the World through Sanctification and Belief of the Truth yet he both wrote unto them to stir up their pure Minds 2 Pet. 3. 1. and exhorted them to give Diligence to make their Calling and Election sure that they might never fall 2 Pet. 1. 10. But what need of this if they were personally elected from an absolute Purpose of God from Eternity Needed or could they make that more sure which God had made so absolute If so then the Exhortation had more properly run thus viz. Brethren believe that God hath made your personal Election sure from Eternity and then what needed he warn or admonish them concerning the Apostacy of those who denyed the Lord that bought them who had forsaken the right Way or of such who after they had escaped the Pollutions of the World through the Knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ which sure was saving Grace yet were again entangled therein that their latter End was worse with them then the Beginning 2 Pet. 2. Did not then their Sin their falling from Grace and so their Disobedience hinder their Establishment and Security in a State of Election or keep from that Diligence in the Spirit whereby they should have made their Calling and Election sure 2dly His saying That Sin it self cannot cause God to alter his Purpose is not only a gross Mistake as in this Case but also gives a great Liberty to Hypocrites who believe they are eternally elect Persons to continue in Sin and Presumption But in Reproof to such and Confutation of the Mistake see what the Prophet Jeremiah saith in the 18th Chapter where having first declared the Power God had over them by the Instance of the Potter ver 3 4 5 6. He further shews his Purpose and the Manifestation of his Power both in Judgment and Mercy and the Condition on which his declar'd Thought or Intention may be alter'd as where he saith v. 7. at what Instant I shall speak concerning a Nation concerning a Kingdom to pluck up and to pull down and destroy it v. 8. If that Nation against whom I have pronounced turn from their Evil I will repent of the Evil I thought to do unto them v. 9. And at what Instant I shall speak concerning a Nation and concerning a Kingdom to build and to plant it v. 10. If it do Evil in my Sight that it obey not my Voice then will I repent of the Good wherewith I said I would benefit them See also ver 11 12. to the 18th Object If any should thus object That these conditional Alterations of God's Purposes did but concern their temporal Conditions not their eternal c. Answ. It may be answered That it is a Mistake they concerned both except Men repent they shall perish eternally Their persisting in Evil-doing and Disobedience to the Voice of God i●…currs eternal Condemnation as well as temporal Punishments so contrary wise through true Repentance c. both have been escaped by many and Godliness is great Gain which hath the Promise of the Life that now is and of that which is to come 1 Tim. 4. 8. 6. 6. Again my unanswered Objection was and still is Were it not impertinent and vain to warn Men of Destruction sect 8 eternal Death or Perishing if from Eternity they were secured from any such Danger Or on the other Hand in time to set before them Life and Death that they might chuse Life refuse Death c. as Deut. 30. 15 16 17 18 19 20. If God had particularly designed them for Death and Destruction how should they then chuse Life Were not this to mock them with a dissembling Proffer of Life if the contrary be so unalterably designed for them S. S. After his fashion answers God that decrees their Salvation decrees by such Warnings to work in them his Fear and an holy Caution to keep them in his Wayes that they may be saved p. 114. Rep. What Fear A Fear
other Grain It is sown and It is raised when the Body or outside of that very Corn that is sown is dead though the innate Virtue or Life doth not in it self dye nor fruitlesly expire Thou sowest not that Body that shall be c. yet in these two relations It is used as relative both to that which is sown and to that Body that shall be while in the very next Words to those before cited it is said there is a Natural Body and there is a Spiritual Body 1 Cor. 15. 44. and these can no more be the self-same then Celestial and Terrestrial Bodies can or then the first Adam and the laft Adam or the Earthly and the Heavenly which the Apostle plaiuly distinguisheth between as he doth betwixt the Natural and the Spiritual But whereas T. H. and his Brethren so much argue from the word It as It is sown a Natural Body It is raised a Spiritual they take this It for Idem corpus the self-same Body in both Their Mistake is evident they have not this either from the Greek or Latin see 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 seminatur corpus animale surgit corpus spirituale i. e. a Natural or Animal Body is sown a Spiritual Body riseth it is not Idem surgit Nor would this agree with the next Words There is a Natural Body and there is a Spiritual Body This admits of no such Transubstantiation as that the self-same Natural Body should become Spiritual or be the Subject of such an Accident And it is sown 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 an Animal Body or as having Life a Living Body which therefore cannot be the Body as dead and laid in the Graves for in that Condition they are not Corpus Animale for that relates to the Earthly Adam or Body of Mankind as having a natural Life ●…nd must not even the Animal or Natural Man dye before the Spiritual Man be risen or Immortality in Christ be put on And is not the Natural or Animal Man doposed to the Renewed Man 1 Cor. 2. 14. And the Seed which is sown in Weakness must needs have some Degree of Life in it when sown whether Natural or Spiritual and the Weakness and Corruption doth relate to the Subject in which it is sown if the Seed it self be incorruptible And as the First Man is of the Earth Earthly the second Man is the Lord from Heaven and As is the Earthly Such are they also that are Earthly and As is the Heavenly Such are they that are Heavenly ver 47 48. which if this be owned it must be granted that they that are Heavenly must have Bodies sutable viz. Heavenly or Spiritual Bodies this Heavenly being the second Man the Lord from Heaven ver 47. And mark As is the Heavenly Such are they that are Heavenly which cannot be the same with Earthly any more then the Image of the Heavenly can be the Image of the Earthly And as to our being asked what this Mortal is that must put on Immortality Though Mortal in this place implies a dying Condition of Man as the Effect of Sin as in Adam all dye yet it cannot as having put on Immortality be relative to Flesh and Blood but as admitted in a Heavenly and Spiritual Sense for the Apostle plainly tells us but a little before Now this I say Brethren that Flesh and Blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God neither doth Corruption inherit Incorruption Behold I shew you a Mystery We shall not all Sleep but we shall all be Changed ver 50 51. And so by that Life and Immortality which is brought to Light we see beyond Death and Mortality and we though as in a dying State yet behold Immortality being quickned by the second Adam and renewed again into the Image of the Heavenly being made alive in Christ who redeems Man from Death ransoms the Soul from the Power of the Grave who swallows up Mortality and Death in Life and Victory and saith O Death I will be thy Plagues O Grave I will be thy Destruction Hos. 13 14. Isa. 25. 8. by whom also Death being so swallow'd up into Victory the Sting of it which is Sin taken away They who thus have their part in Christ who is the Resurrection and Life can truly say Thanks be to God who gives us the Victory through our Lord Jesus Christ 1 Cor. 15. ●…7 And to take off further Surmisings against us I tell my Opposer that this Resurrection or Change extends not only to a Raising of Man up from Sin to Righteousness but also to an Eternal Glory And 't is not only the Raising up of the Seed or Grace in Man as he supposes but the Raising up of Man from Sin Death Hell and the Grave even in the Seed and Life which is the Ransom and this answers his Cavils in his 6●… and 61. Pages only where he fictitiously makes us speak thus viz. Qu. We believe the Resurrection of the Body though we know not what that Body is which shall rise And then he absurdly makes a Christian to answer thus viz. Chr. Thou saidst before the Light within was the divine Essence either then thy Light within thee is not God or God knows not all things c. Reply First he feigneth the Quacker though we will never own him to be our Mouth for the Words were not so spoken by me or us but that we ought not to be too Curious or Inquisitive in things beyond our Capacities as to the Manner of the Existences hereafter or how Men shall be reserved unto their several Ends and Rewards for God knows how to do it but we being sensible of the different Seeds we cannot be altogether ignorant of the Nature of each Body being proper to the Seed it belongs to Yet if with John we say it doth not yet appear what we shall be it is Satisfaction that we know what Manner of Love the Father hath bestowed upon us that we should be called the Sons of God for such are Sons of the Resurrection 2dly T. H. abuses the Christian by making him speak absurdly that which implies that if Man have a Divine Light in him he must needs know all that the Light knows or else either conclude that the Light is not Divine or else God is not Omniscient and then it follows from hence that none have either a Divine Light or God dwelling in them unless they know as much as God which was a Temptation to Man at first and by this he hath shut out all not only the fallen World but God's People also from having any Divine Light or Power of God in them He scoffs at some of our Friends saying We own the Resurrection that is We witness it and then adds But what is it you witness the Resurrection of the Seed 'T is Christ in you Ans. Is this a matter to be taunted or scoffed at Hath he truly acted the part of a Christian thus to slight the Arising of the Righteous
Israel and it is likely buried in twelve distinct places the Bones will fly through the Air out of all those places and meet together in one Body Oh! what a great part of the Air Water and Earth will there run into Conjunction by the Command of Christ and be turned into those very Bodies which were resolved into them by Death and the Corruption of the Pit But with the Addition of such new Qualities as shall sublimate spiritualize and refine them from all that Dreggishness and ill humour that shall be the Foundation of any Sickness or Death forever then the Bones will come together be made like Stones for Strength then the Sinnews will be as it were Iron Sinnews and the Flesh Brass such Strength will be put into them as I conceive is not to be found in the strongest Creatures which hitherto God hath made that they might be fitted the Bodies of the Righteous for an Eternal Life of Happiness and bearing the Glory of Heaven The Bodies of the Wicked for an Eternal Life of Misery and bearing the Torments of Hell pag. 17 18. But what a Stirring will there be in the Earth Those which are alive will wonder to see such a strange Metamorph●… of the Ground to seel Men and Women stirring and moving under their Feet arising and crouding for Room amongst them Then will the Lord bring down all the Souls of the Righteous which have been in Paradise with him many Years and they shall find out their own Bodies And he will open the Prison of Hell and let out the Souls of the Wicked for a while that they also may find out their own Bodies pag. 19. The Book of God's Remembrance will be opened This we are to understand in a Spiritual Sense not as if there were a real Book which God did make use of for his Remembrance of things as Men do who have Frail and Weak Memories pag. 22. The Spirits of all the just Men and Women made persect shall then come down and enter again into their Old Habitations pag. 31. when the Soul left the Body vile to putrifie and corrupt in the Grave and shall finde it come forth more Bright and Glorious then Gold after it hath been resined in a Furnace If the Love between the Soul and the Body were so great when the Body was so vile and the Soul so Sinful what will it be when both are glorified If the Conjunction between the Soul and Body were so sweet when the Body was so Frail and subject to Death and the Soul a Spiritual and Never-dying Subscance what will it be when the Body shall be made immortal and in some sort spiritual pag. 32. No sooner are they awakened and risen out of their Graves but they are entertained by Angels those Holy and Excellent Creatures when before in the Body they were too low and unfit for their Acquaintance but they will then know them and be able to discern the Beauty of those lovely Spirits pag. 33. They will arise like so many shining Suns out of the Earth pag. 34. They admired to see the Saints and to see themselves so transformed pag. 36. He will bring the Keys of Death and Hell along with him and open both these Prison Doors not to give Liberty and Release to the Prisoners But as prisons are opened at Assizes to bring them sorth unto Judgment he will open the Prison of Hell and all the Souls of the Wicked shall come forth like so many 〈◊〉 cut of the bottomless Fit and he will open the Prison of the Grave and all their Bodies shall creep Like so many ugly Toads out of the Earth and then Soul and Body shall be joyned together again and this Meeting will be sad beyond Expression Then the Meeting of the Souls and Bodies of the Wicked will be dolesul pag. 46 47. It is said that the vile Bodies of the Righteous shall be made like unto Christ's Body in Beauty and Glory but the Bodies of the Wicked will have another Hew and Fashion if it were possible to fashion Bodies like Devils those impure and foul Spirits such spiritual Bodies the Wicked should have Be sure their Bodies shall have no Glory put upon them but as they lay down Vile Bodies they shall rise up far more Vile The Bodies of the Wicked most probably will be Swarthy Black Ugly Monstrous Bodies p. 48. The Blackness and Dread of the Soul would quickly appear in their Countenance besides the Impressions which the Fire of Hell will have upon them if the Body be black how black will the Soul be after so long abode with foul Devils in the lower Regions of Darkness And when such foul Souls and such vile Bodies meet what a Meeting what a Greeting will there be We may fancy a kind of Language to be between them at that Day The Soul to the Body Come out of thy Hole thou filthy Dunghil Flesh for the Pampering and Pleasing of whom I have lost my self forever who hast stolen away my Time and Thoughts and Heart from God and Christ and Heavenly Things to feed and cloathe and cherish thee and make Provision to satisfie thy base deceitful Lusts when I should have been making Provision for thine and mine Everlasting Happiness Awake and come forth of the Dust thou Bewitching Dirty Flesh who didst lull me asleep so long in thy pleasing Chains until thou didst suddenly open thy Doors and thrust me out where I was awakened in Torments before I was aware Now I must come into thy Doors again that thou mayst share and taste the Bitter Issue of sinful Pleasures and Delights And O how will the Body be affrighted so soon as the Soul is entered p. 49. The Body to the Soul And hast thou found me out O my Enemy Couldst not thou have let me alone to lie still at rest in this sweet Sleep Hast thou used me as a Slave and employed all my Members as Servants of Iniquity and Unrighteousness and 〈◊〉 thou come now to Torment me and is this the Fruit of all the Pleasures we have taken together Shouldst not thou have been more VVise and provided better for thy self and me O! what Cryes and Shreeks will the Tongue give forth so soon as it hath recovered its Use p. 50. 2. The second Antecedent to the Judgment of the Wicked will be their Meeting with Devils to entertain them at their Resurrection and then they will not appear unto them like Angels of Light as sometimes here they have done p. 50. but they will spit forth their Venom and Malice then in their Faces possibly they may buffet their Bodies and lay painful Stroaks upon them surely they will terrifie their Souls for those Sins they have drawn them unto the Commission of p. 51. How will they be affrighted at the Apparition of so many Devils about them when they shall lash their Spirits with Horrible Scourges when
to Absolve him Thus preserved in so great a Business the Duty both of a Judge and Friend but from the Act I receive this Trouble that I fear it is not free from Perfidiousness and Guilt in the same Business at the same time and in a publique Affair to PERSIVADE OTHERS CONTRARY TO WHAT WAS IN MY OWN JUDGEMENT BEST Of his Apophtegms or Sayings these few are delivered to us by Laertius He said Providence of Future Things collected by Reason is the Vertue of a Man Being demanded wherein the Learned differ from the Unlearned he answered In a Good Hope What is hard To conceal Secrets to dispose of Leisure well and be able to bear an INJURY therefore said Chilon to his Brother I CAN BEAR INJURIES THOU CANST NOT nor Tho. Hicks I am sure sor he is Angry where he sustains none HIS WATER HAS NOT WASHT HIM SO CLEAN AS THE LIGHT DID CHILON III. The Precepts of the Seven Sophists of Greece in general THALES SOLON PERIANDER CLEOBULUS CHILON BIAS and PITTACUS called seven Wise Men collected by Sosiades about 2300. years old FOLLOW GOD Obey the Law WORSHIP GOD Reverence thy Parents Suffer for Justice Know thy self Consider Mortal things Respect Hospitality Command thy self Honour Providence USE NOT SWEARING Speak well of that which is Good Disparage none Praise Vertue Do what is Just Abstain from Evil Instruct thy Children Fear Deceit Be a Lover of Wisdom Judge according to Equity Curb thy Tongue Examine without Corruption Do that whereof thou shalt not Repent When thou hast sin'd be Penitent Confine thy Eye Perfect quickly Pursue what is profitable Be in Childhood Modest in Youth Temperate in Manhood Just and in old Age Prudent THAT THOU MAYST DYE UNTROUBLED Thus far the Wise Men which were therefore so call'd because of their Extraordinary Vertue and truly deserved the Name of Christian and Vertuous more abundantly then they who have it IV. PYTHAGORAS very truly tells us The Discourse of that Philosopher is Vain by which no Passion of a Man is Healed What serves the much Preaching of T. H. J. G. and J. B. then who have not yet Cured themselves All which is determin'd to be done should aim at and tend to the Acknowledgment of the Deity Endeavour not to Conceal thy Faults with Words but to Amend them by Reproof This is the Principle saith Pythagoras and the whole Life of Men consists in this THAT THEY FOLLOW GOD and this is the Ground of Right Philosophy Purity is acquir'd by Expiations and by Refraining from Murder and Adultery and ALL POLLUTION We ought either to be Silent or to speak things that are better then Silence Temperance is the Strength of the Soul for it is the Light of the Soul clear from Passion It is better to Dye then to cloud the Soul by INTEMPERANCE ●…ythagoras returns not Reproaches for Reproaches Tho. Hicks and John Bunion Reproach when they are not Reproached Behold the Difference betwixt an Heathen and two Scolding Christians but therefore no True Christians V. ANAXAGORAS held That CONTEMPLATION OF GOD was the End of Li●…e and that Liberty which proceeds from such Heavenly Meditation To one who blam'd him for neglecting his Country WRONG ME NOT said he MY GREATEST CARE IS MY COUNTRY pointing to Heaven Suidas saith That he was cast into Prison by the Athenians for Introducing a New Opinion concerning God and Banisht the City though Pericles undertook to plead his Cause Josephus saith That the Athenians believing the Sun to be God which he affirm'd to be without Sense and Knowledge he was by the Votes of a Few of them condemn'd to Death However thus they writ upon his Grave as Englisht by T. Stanley Here lies who through the truest Pathes did pass O' th World Celestial ANAXAGORAS Which was an high Testimony to his Good Life and their Belief of his arriving at Immortality VI. SOCRATES Right Philosophy is the Way to True Happiness the Offices whereof are two To Contemplate God and to Abstract the Soul from Corporeal Sense To do Good is the best Course of Life Vertue is the Beauty Vice the Deformity of the Soul Nobility is a good Temper of Soul and Body The Best Way of Worshipping God is to Do what he Commands An hard Saying to Professors Our Prayers should be for Blessings in general for God knows best what is good for Us. GOD CONSIDERS INTEGRITY NOT MUNIFICENCE This judgeth Formal Christians with their Exterior Worship The Office of a Wise Man is to discern what is Good and Honest and to shun that which is Dishonest They who know what they ought to do and do it not are not Wise and Temperate but Fools and stupid Of all things which Man can call his the SOUL to be Chief and that HE ONLY IS TRULY HAPPY WHO PURIFIETH THAT FROM VICE He taught every where That a Just Man and a Happy Man were all one He said He wondred at those who carve Images of Stone that they take such Care to make Stones resemble Men whilst they neglect and suffer themselves to resemble Stones He meant they had Stony Hearts as the Prophet expresseth it Being demanded who live without Perturbation he answer'd THEY WHO ARE CONSCIOUS TO THEMSELVES OF NO EVIL THING Being demanded whom he thought Richest he answer'd Stob. 40. HE WHO IS CONTENTED WITH LEAST for Content is the Riches of Nature Being demanded what CONTINENCE is he answer'd GOVERNMENT OF CORPORAL PLEASURES Good Men must let the World see THAT THEIR MANNERS ARE MORE FIRM THEN AN OATH Then there is a State of Integrity above Swearing that by the Light Socrates had he preferred before Swearing as I may again observe But to proceed let us hear the Charge of his Enemies and his Defence Melitus Son of Melitus a Pythian accused Socrates Son of Sophroniscus an Alopecian Socrates violateth the Law not believing the Acities which this City believeth BUT INTRODUCING ANOTHER GOD. HE VIOLATES THE LAW LIKEWISE IN CORRUPTING YOUTH THE PUNISHMENT DEATH The Charge is the same to this day Good Men are made Offenders for a Word Soon after Anytus who caused that Bill to be preferred by Melitus in that Socrates industriously assay'd his Overthrow and the Rest of his Comical Associates for they were Comedians sent privately to him desiring him to forbear the mention of his Trade and assuring him that he would thereupon withdraw his Action But Socrates return'd him Answer THAT HE WOULD NEVER FORBEAR SPEAKING TRUTH SO LONG AS HE LIVED That he would alwayes use the same Speeches concerning him That this Accusation was not of Force enough to make him refrain from speaking those things which he thought himself before oblieg'd to say Again observe his Resolution It is likely God in his Love to me hath ordain'd that I
should Dye in the most convenient Age and by the Gentlest Means for if I dye by Sentence I am allowed the Benefit of the most easie kind of Death I shall give my Friends the least Trouble Further If when I give an Account of my Actions towards God and Men the Judges think fit to condemn me I will rather chuse to Dye then to beg of them a Life worse then Death Yet that I dye unjustly it will not trouble me it is not a Reproach to me but to those who condemned me I am much satisfied with the Example of Palamedes who suffered Death in the like manner He is much more commended then Ulysses the Procurer of his Death I know both future and past Times will witness I NEVER HURT OR INJUR'D ANY but on the contrary have Advantag'd all that conversed with me to my utmost Ability communicating what Good I could gratis and not for Gain I think it most Unbeseeming a Philosopher to Sell his Advice and extreamly contrary to my Practice sor ever since by God's Command I first enter'd into Philosophy I was never known to take any thing but keep my Exercises in publick for every one to hear that will I neither Lock the Door when I Teach nor go abroad to the Multitude and exact Money of the Hearers as some heretosore have done and some in our times yet do Was not Socrates then beyond the Priests of our Day I mean as well some Creeping Non Conformists as any other who make a Trade of it and indeed it is their best The Righteousness of this Heathen condemns their Mercenary Practice who pretend to be Christian-Ministers and giveth Proof of an higher State then they have yet attained VII ANTISTHENES Institutor of the Cynicks as they were called and Scholar to Socrates taught That Vertue was the truest Nobility that PIETY WAS ALONE NEEDFULL TO LASTING HAPPINESS That true Vertue stood not in Saying but Doing that which was Good Not in much Learning or many Words but upright Actions In short that the Principle of Vertue is sufficient to what Wisdom is needful and that all other things ought to have reference thereto That PIETY IS THE BEST ARMOUR and Vertuous Persons are alwayes Friends That Vertue is an Armour none can either pierce or take from Good Men. He prefers a Just Man before his Neighbour and good Women's Souls the same Priviledge to Vertue with Men's He accounted Pleasures one of the greatest Mischiefs in the World and being ask'd what LEARNING was best he answer'd That which Unlearns Men Evil for those saith he who would Live forever must have a Care that their Lives be Holy and Just in this World IX From DIOGENES his constant Scholar and Friend take this one very true and notable Saying Of Spiritual Exercitation Laertius makes him speak to this purpose in his Account of his Doctrine That where Men's Souls are deeply and frequently employ'd in that Spiritual Retirement and waiting for Divine Strength and are often exercised in Meditation upon the Eternal Mind HOLY REVELATIONS OR ILLUMINATIONS WILL OCCUR WHICH ENLIGHTEN THE SOUL AND ENABLE IT THE BETTER TO LIVE AND ACT VERTUOUSLY X. Nay so greatly were the Piety and Wisdom of XENOCRATES reverenc'd at Athens about Four Hundred Years besore Swear not at all was spoken by our Lord Jesus that the Judges of that Place would not offer to put Xenocrates upon his Oath in an high Matter of Evidence in case he would have Sworn because they thought it an Affront to his Integrity that his bare Word should not be prefer'd before all the Oaths of other Men Dispensing says Valerius Maximus with that to him they would not have Excused in one another Which is no small Proof that the LIGHT among the Heathens impeacht Oaths in Evidence of Imperfection as being but only Supplemental or in the Place of Remedies against want of Honesty and obviously esteem'd it an higher and more noble State to arrive at the Integrity which needs not the extraordinary and a frighting Obligation of an Oath where meer Fear of the Curse intail'd upon Perjury and not an innate Faithfulness most commonly extorts true Evidence which is a sufficient Answer to T. H. how and by what LIGHT we could have aim'd at that Perfection or have known that Doctrine had not the Scriptures been XI The Chief Good therefore said ZENO is to square our Lives according to the Knowledge given us from the Eternal Being when the Soul entring into the Path of Vertue walketh by the Steps and Guidance of right Reason and followeth God Which brings to my Remembrance these Stoical Maxims deliver'd by Laertius Cicero Quintilian c. and collected by T. S. for us charg'd upon Zeno and his Disciples some of which I had formerly an Occasion to mention in another Discourse They are these A Wise Man is void of Passion Remember T. H. and J. B. unless you will renounce Patience because an Heathen preferrs it A Wise Man is Sincere A Wise Man is Divine for he hath God with himself but a Wicked Man is an Atheist The Wicked are contrary to the Good God he is Good so against God A Wise Man is Religious he is Humble He only is a Priest He only is a Prophet He Loves and Honours his Parents A Wise Man only is Free. A Wise Man is void of Sin Upon which I query whether this amounts not to as much as what the Scriptures teach and these here inserted tell you That the Fear of the Lord is the Beginning of Wisdom and to depart from Iniquity a Good Understanding But further to the same Purpose A Wise Man is Innocent A Wise Man is Free Wicked Men are Slaves Again A Wise Man is only Perfect for he wanteth no Vertue a Wicked Man is Imperfect for he hath no Vertue Whereby it is evident that the Wisdom they meant was Vertue in Opposition to Vice which they esteemed Folly as doth the Scripture frequently as much as to say those who are thus Good are only Wise. Again A Wise Man never Lyeth A Wise Man is Peaceable Meek Modest Diligent Vertuous Constant and only is Incitable to Vertue Fools are not Where it is obvious that by Fools they meant Wicked and Indocible People who are Stiff-necked Rebelling against God not delighting to retain God in their Knowledge XII PLATO thus To be like God is to be HOLY JUST and WISE which is the End of Man's being born and should be of his studying Philosophy that Vertue and Honesty are all one as saith Clemens Alexandrinus out of him This Reader was the Doctrine this the Study and which is best of all this was the Practice of many of the Vertuous Heathens who became a Law unto themselves bounding their Appetites whether Corporal or Mental within the approved Limits of an Inward Holy Guide like
Careful Mariners steering the Course of their Lives by the Direction of that Heavenly Star which in the Gentile-Night rise in their Consciences to guide them unto a Blessed Immortality which will be the Last Point of their Divinity and then we close this Discourse with respect to them CHAP. XIV That the Last Point of Gentile-Divinity to wit Immortality and Eternal Rewards is also very clearly and positively held forth by the Ancient Heathens Six Testimonies from them to prove it Socrates's Great Faith in particular and the Lofty Strain of the Pythagoreans THat the Gentiles believed there was an IMMORTALITY and that all Men should hereafter be Accountable for the Deeds done in the Body a Point but obscurely lay'd down among the Jews themselves be pleased to take these few insuing Authorities as a Proof of what is asserted I. PYTHAGORAS and the Pythagoreans that they all held the Immortality of the Soul Consider his and their Doctrine in the Point First he said That the Soul is Immortal Next That the Soul is Incorruptible it never Dyeth for when it goes out of the Body it goes into the other World THE PURE TO GOD THE IMPURE BOUND BY FURIES IN INDISSOLVABLE CHAINS Here IMMORTALITY and REWARDS are asserted But when a Man who has lived Justly dyeth his Soul ASCENDETH TO THE PURE AETHER or Heaven and lives in the Happy Aevum or Everlasting Age with the Blessed II. HERACLITUS If my Body be over-press'd it must descend to the destinate Place Nevertheless MY SOUL SHALL NOT DESCEND BUT BEING A THING IMMORTAL SHALL FLY UP ON HIGH TO HEAVEN III. EURIPIDES a grave Tragedian whose Work was to undo what Wanton Comedians had done to undo the People speaks thus Who knoweth whether to Dye be not to Live and to Live to Dye Surely he said so not out of any Distrust of Immortality but in Belief of it and that Reward which would attend Good Men. IV. SOCRATES The Body being Compounded is Dissolved by Death The SOUL being Simple PASSETH INTO ANOTHER LIFE INCAPABLE OF CORRUPTION THE SOUL OF THE GOOD AFTER DEATH ARE IN A HAPPY ESTATE UNITED TO GOD IN A BLESSED IN ACCESSIBLE PLACE THE BAD IN CONVENIENT PLACES SUFFER CONDIGN PUNISHMENT This puts the Case of the Sufficiency of the Light to discover Immortality to the very Heathen out of all doubt and not only so but Rewards too since we have them here believing THE RIGHTEOUS SHALL BE SAVED AND THE WICKED DAMNED This made Socrates so chearful at his Death something of which I think fit here to insert Truly did I not believe I should go to the Just God and to Men better then any Living I were inexcusable ●…or contemning Death BUT I AM SURE TO GO TO GOD A VERY GOOD MASTER and hope to meet with Good Men AND AM OF GOOD COURAGE hoping that SOMETHING OF MAN SUBSISTS AFTER DEATH AND THAT IT IS THEN MUCH BETTER WITH THE GOOD THEN WITH THE BAD When he had made an end of Speaking CRITO one of his Followers ask'd him what Directions he would leave concerning his Sons and other Affairs and if they could do any thing that might be acceptable to him I desire no more saith he then what I have often told you If you take Care of Your selves whatsoever you do will be acceptable to me and mine though you promise nothing if you Neglect Your selves and VERTUE you can do nothing acceptable to us THOUGH YOU PROMISE NEVER SO MUCH That answer'd CRITO we shall observe But how wilt thou be Buried As you think good saith he IF YOU CAN CATCH ME and that I give you not the slip Then with a Smile applying himself unto us I cannot perswade CRITO saith he that I am any thing more then the Carkase you will anon behold and therefore he takes this Care ●…or my Enterment It seems that what even now I told him that as soon as I have taken the Poyson I SHALL GO TO THE JOYES OF THE BLESSED hath been to little purpose He was my Bail bound to the Judges ●…or my Appearance you must now be SURETIES to him that I am DEPARTED Let him not say THAT SOCRATES IS CARRIED TO THE CRAVE OR LAID UNDER GROUND for know dear CRITO such a Mistake WERE A WRONG TO MY SOUL be not dejected Tell the World MY BODY ONLY IS BURIED and that after what manner thou pleasest Yet saith SOCRATES I may pray to God and will That my Passage hence may be Happy which I beseech him to grant and in the same instant drank it off easily without any Disturbance This saith Plato was the End of the Best the Wisest and most Just Men. A Story which Cicero professeth he never read without Tears This ends Socrates upon the present Subject and Happy Man was he to make so happy an End as to Dye for the only true God he had great Reason to believe maugre the Envious Uncharitableness of T. H. that he would Reward him when it shall be said to many Bawling pretended Christians Depart from me I know you not for as Men Sow so shall they Reap in the Day of God I need not to tell the World that Plato and other Heathens have written accurately upon that Subject when it is so Notorious Wherefore to close up my Testimonies upon this Head and whole Discourse of Gentile-Divinity I will present the Reader with two short Passages one of the Pythagoreans the other from Virgil thus tran●…lated to my hand only a little varied by an Ingenious Author V. Donec long a Dies perfecto temporis Orbe Concretam exemit Labem purumque reliquit Aethereum Sensum atque aur ai simplicis ignem In English thus Till that long Day at last be come about That wasted has all Filth and Foul Desire And leaves the Soul CELESTIAL THROUGHOUT Bathing her Senses in pure liquid Fire To which agrees that Golden Distick of the Pythagoreans as it hath been called VI. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 To this purpose Who after Death once reach the Heavenly Plain BECOME LIKE GOD and never Dye again The Greek has it as Immortal Gods Which Hierocles interprets thus Herein shall Good Men resemble the Deity that they shall be Immortal like God himself Thus Reader have I given thee a very true Account of the Gentile-Divinity what was the Faith what the Practice and what the Prophecy and Hope of many Gentiles through this Light Within each of which had numerous Followers Observe They began where Jews and Christians begin that is WITH GOD and they end with what they confess to be theirs namely a State of Immortality in which every one is Rewarded according to their Works Only they are thus far to be Commended before either of them if we consider many of our Times That they were more Certain Plain and True in their Acknowledgment of a Divine Light Law or Principle in
Law finished He that would be justified must first be condemned and who would be healed must first be wounded The Law is as the Sword the Gospel as Balm The one Duty the other Love And that which alone is needful to attain unto the highest Discovery is to be humbly subject and constantly obedient to the lowest Appearance of it The faithful Servant becomes a Son by Adoption Wouldst thou know the Word a Reconciler thou must first witness it an Hammer Sword Fire c. The Way to arrive at Evangelical Righteousness is first to perform the Righteousness of the Law By Law I mean not that of Ceremonies or the External Order of the Jews but that Moral Eternal Law which is said to have come by Moses and is accomplisht by Christ. And there is great Hopes that who Conscientiously keeps the Beginning will compass the End Such as have Conquer'd bad Doing if they be faithful in what they have received of God's Light and Spirit it will inable them against bad Saying till at last they overcome evil Thinking too and witness that Scripture fulfilled Judgment the Law is brought forth into Victory the Gospel He that follows me the Light of the World that inlightens all Men coming into the World shall not abide in Darkness but shall have the Light of Life I make not this Distinction of Law and Gospel to distinguish in Kind but Degree and for the sake of the Weak accustomed to it And if the Son make you free then are you free indeed For as it is a Condemner it may be called the Light that brings Death in that it slays by the Brightness of it's coming into the Conscience the transgressing Nature like unto that Expression the Day of the Lord is a Day of Darkness because of the Judgments and Terrors of the Lord for Sin But to the Obedient it is the Light of Life Thus is Christ as the Word-God and Light of the World through every Dispensation ONE in himself though to Mankind he has variously appeared not by Differing Lights but Manifestations only of one and the same Eternal Light of Life and Righteousness CHAP. XVIII The Second Part of the Objection that Christ was not anciently called the Light Answered And the Contrary proved from Scripture and Reason TO the Second Part of the Objection If the Light in every Man were Christ how comes it that the Jews and Greeks never called it so I answer We do not say that the Light in every Man is Christ but of Christ He is that Fulness from whence all receive a Measure of Divine Light and Knowledge but not that every Individual has the whole or compleat Christ in him such an Absurdity never fell from us nor our Doctrine though the Malice of our Adversaries hath charged it upon both But as the External Sun darts its Light upon the Organ of the Eye of the Body by which it conveyes true Discerning to act how in and about Visibles so doth the Internal Sun of Righteousness shine upon the Eye of the Soul giving it the Knowledge of those invisible Things which properly relate to the Nature of the Soul So that we are the less oblieged to give a Reason why others called not the Light in Man Christ since we renounce all Share in such Belief our selves Which is Answer enough to T. H's dis-ingenuous Inference that because G. W. affirmed the Light with which Mankind was inlightned was God therefore sayes T. H. Every Man his whole God in him or to that Purpose p. 5 6. Yet thus far I will tell those Men that Christ was called Light before ever he was in the World though not before he was Christ. I will give him for a Light to lighten the Gentiles c. Now if any will say that this Light was not Christ let them tell us so in plain words But if it will be allowed then T. Hicks had best ask why the Prophet by the Holy Ghost should call Christ Light even as soon if not before he was called Christ and why in that very State in which he was called Christ he should be called Light Certain it is then that by Him the Light we are to understand Christ which is one and the same thing as if he had said I will give Christ for a Light to enlighten the Gentiles or who is the Christ is the Light or the Light is Christ So that it will follow that the Gentiles were inlightened by Christ which is the Whole of what we understand by our Assertion as to the Light in Man Again John expresly calls that Light with which every Man is inlightned the Word and the Word is said to have taken Flesh If then he that took Flesh was Christ and consequently that Body Christ's Body only as none I think will dare deny but Muggleton and his Credulous Followers it will follow That Christ who took or appeared in that prepared Body is the Light with which every Man is inlightned Further Christ himself sayes I am the Light of the World which is as much as if he had said I have inlightned the World therefore the Light which shines in the Hearts of Mankind is Christ though not every particular Illumination the entire Christ for so there would be as many Christs which were Absurd and Blasphemous But Lastly the Apostle himself calls him Christ before his Coming in the Flesh or that Christ was Christ before his Appearance in that Body at Jerusalem which clears that Point in Controversie for the Stress of T. Hicks's Objection as to this Particular lies here Christ as Christ was not before he took Flesh therefore though I should grant might he say and he doth say as much that as the Word-God all are inlightened by him yet sayes he not as he is Christ before that visible Appearance One would think he were a very Socinian by his Arguing not that I write so in Slight Abuse or Reflection but if Christ was not before then the Manhood that was taken in time must be the Christ and what should materially hinder their Conjunction I know not But I would fain know his Reason for it if it be Lawful to expect what I fear he has not to give however if he darest he would give you his Interest in lieu of a Reason for his so holding but that I shall do for him and with Impartial Minds it will be a Reason against him The Dilemma in short is this If he denies Christ to have been Christ before that Coming he thwarts as plain a Text as the Scriptures have and if he should allow of it his whole Fabrick now a Fortification he thinks would fall like a rotten House about his Ears Well but I will tell him and all concern'd for his base Opposition That since Christ as the Word-God hath illuminated all Men antecedent to his Coming in the Flesh as confesses T.H. J.G. J.F. and many more of them that the Apostle says that the Word
their Weakness that he might both keep them from gadding after the Pompous Invention and Idolatrous Worship of other Nations and point out unto them under their great Carnality that more Hidden Glory and Spiritual Dispensation which should-afterwards be revealed to wit The Compleat Redemption of the Soul and Raign of the Holy Seed from the Child born and the Son given to the Wonderful Counsellor the Mighty God the Everlasting Father and Prince of Peace of the Increase of whose Government there shall be no End So that then we ought and we do by absolute Force of Truth conclude 1. That the Seed which Seed is Christ was in all Ages with Abraham with the Israelites with the Prophets Therefore he was as well before he came in that prepared Body as then and since 2. Yet it is confest That He was not so clearly revealed perfectly brought forth and generally known before his so Coming as then and since but more darkly figured out by Types and Shaddowy Services which though they Cleans'd not Sav'd not Redeem'd not yet did show forth a more Hidden and Spiritual Substance that was able to Cleanse Save and Redeem and did all that received it and were truly subject to it 3. That it therefore is not at all Absurd that the more Excellent Manifestation of Truth should he Typified and Prophesied of under the Enjoyment of the Lesser since the Reason of the Thing and the Testimonies of the Scripture are so express for it which ends our Answer to this Particular CHAP. XX. The Fourth Part of the Objection stated and considered Christ's Death and Sufferings confessed to and respected they were beneficial The Light of Christ within is the Efficient Cause to Salvation HAving thus considered the Third Part of this great Objection I am now come to what chiefly stumbles People with respect to the Light within at least as I apprehend and that is this Fourth and Last Particular viz. But if the Light in every Man be Christ how doth it bear our Sins and are our Iniquities laid upon it and how can we be said to be Justified Redeemed or Saved by its Blood since all these things are spoken by the Holy Pen-men of the Man Christ or Jesus born at Nazareth Surely you wholy invalidate his Life Death Resurrection Ascension and Mediation by this Belief in the Light This I take to be the very Stress of the Matter collected out of the most Forceable Writings of our Adversaries To which I Answer and let him that reads understand It must be considered in this Last Part of the Objection how those Questions can be applicable to the Light and yet be reconciliable with those Scriptures that seem to attribute all to his Bodily Sufferings I hope to make appear that as we exalt the First so we dare not by any means to slight the Last The Light or rather He that is Light in Man for I have alwayes desired so to be understood Light being a Metaphor or word taken from the outward Day and chiefly so term'd because of Man's Darkness which is thereby discovered hath been as a Lamb slain since the Foundation of the World that is the World had not been long created before the good Order of it and every thing therein being envied by the Fallen Angels that Spirit of Iniquity betrayed Man of his Innocency and Sin by Disobedience prevailing the Light or Principle of Life under whose Holy Leadings Man was placed became Resisted Grieved and as it were Slain which word Slain is also Metaphorical that is to say the Innocent Pure Life was as Wounded unto Death through Man's Disobedience and Lamb-like Image in which Adam was created by him through Rebellion lost Thus that Holy Principle which God placed in the Heart of Adam in which was true Light Life and Power bore the Sin was prest under it as a Cart under Sheaves grieved exceedingly and as it were quencht with Iniquity This hath been the Condition of that Precious and Elect Seed Spirit Light Life Truth or whatever Name equivalent any may please to give it ever since that first Rebellion to this very Day And as in Wicked Men God's Holy Light and Spirit or that Principle which is so called hath been deeply Wounded yea as one Slain so in Good Men that have had a Sence of the World's Abomination hath it also born many Burdens and Weights for the Light and Life is One in All. And those who have been reformed by it and joyned to it have been as One Spirit and have not been without their Share of their Lord 's heavy Sufferings from the Ungodly World which was as well a filling up of Christ's Sufferings that were before his Outward Coming as what to this Generation are behind And as at any time Disobedient Men have harkened to the still Voice of the WORD that Messenger of God in their Hearts to be affected and convinced by it as it brings Reproof for Sin which is but a Fatherly Chastizement ●…o upon true Brokenness of Soul and Contrition of Spirit that very same Principle and Word of Life in Man has mediated and attoned and God has been propitious lifting up the Light of his Countenance and replenishing such humble 〈◊〉 with Divine Consolations So that still the same Christ Word-God who has enlightned all Men by Sin is grieved bearing the Iniquities of such as so sin and reject his Benefits but as any hear his Knocks and let him in he first Wounds and then Heals afterwards he attones mediates and re-instates in the holy Image Behold this is the State of Restitution And this in some Measure was witnessed by the Holy Patriarchs Prophets and Servants of God in old time to whom Christ was substantially the same Saviour and Seed bruising the Serpent's Head that he is now to us what Difference s●…ever there may be in Point o●… Manifestation But notwithstanding the same Light and Life with that which afterwards clothed it it self with that outward Body did in measure inwardly appear for the Salvation of the Souls of Men yet as have often said never did that Li●…●…eminently put ●…orth it self for that End as in that 〈◊〉 and prepared Body so that what he then suffered and did in that transcendent Manisestation may by way of Eminency assume the whole Work unto it self that he ever did before or might do afterwards For doubtless that very Light Life and Power which dwelt in that Flesh●…y Tabernacle eminently was the Convincer Condemner Saviour and Redeemer yet not only as confined to that Body but as revealed in the Hearts of Men as he was in Paul who not consulting with Flesh and Blood against the Lord of Glory willingly receive him in to bind the strong Man spoil his Goods and cast him out that He might Reign And that the Divine Life Light Spirit Nature of Principle which resided in that Body was the efficient Cause of Salvation observe the Title that is given from the great Work he was to
do namely To save his People from their Sins there is not one Word of Wrath but consequentially Therefore since that Sin is in the Heart and Conscience of Mankind nothing but a Divine Light Spirit or Power can reach Immaculation into those inward Parts and consequently that must be the Redeemer and Saviour But indeed those who have a Mind to Naturalize that strange Figure into the Language of the Holy Truth I mean to understand that to be saved is to be saved from Wrath and not from Sin whose assured Wages is Wrath may have some Interest though no Reason for their implacable Enmity against an Inherent Holiness But I farther confess that his Righteous Life with respect to its Appearance in that Body was grieved by Sin that the Weight of the Iniquity of the whole World with the Concernment of its Eternal Well-being lay hard upon him nor was his Manhood Insensible of it Under the Load of this did He travel he alone trode the Wine-Press that is All others were then Insensible of that Eternal Wrath which would be the Portion of Impenitent Persons as well as that it was his great Care and deep Travel that the Holy yet Oppressed Seed might arise over the Pressures of Iniquity in the Hearts of Men to bruise the Serpent's Head in all And as outwardly he gave his outward Life for the World so he might inwardly shed abroad in their Souls the Blood of God that is The Holy Purifying Life and Virtue which is in him as the Word-God and as which he is the Life of the World This was it which gave that visible Part the Understanding it had which fitted it for so great an Embassy by whose Power alone it Fasted Prayed Preacht Cast-out Devils Wrought Miracles Lived that most Unblemisht Life Patiently Suffered Death was Raised for an Holy Confirmation maugre all the Military Opposition of the Jews and this it was which accompanied the Ministry of his Followers rendring it Efficacious to Conviction and Conversion So that the Invisible Spiritual and Divine Life Principle or Nature was the Root and Fountain of all which is sometimes asscribed in Scripture to the Body by that Common Figure or Way of Speaking amongst Men the Thing containing which was the Body for the Thing contained which was the Eternal Power Wisdom Life c. Not that we would irreverently rob the Holy Body of whatsoever Acknowledgement is justly due nor yet separate that God joyned though I confess with holy Fear I dare not attribute to an External prepared Being which is the Natural Proper and Only Work of the Divine Light and Life to operate and effect But certainly if some Men in Scripture are intituled Saviours because of the Contribution of their Tryals Travels and Labours towards the Salvation of Man-kind of much more Right is that Honour ascribable to him who had the Spirit without Measure For I do freely acknowledge it to have been in some sense a Co-worker and Partner with the Divine Life in many of its Tryals Weights Sufferings and Travels for Man-kind Yet as it was the Divine Power in them that made them serviceable in that great Work so was it the Divine Power in him which made that what it was and therefore ought we chiefly to appropriate the Salvation to Christ as the Word-God and to the Holy Manhood not any otherwise then Instrumentally or by the same Divine Power in and through it I mean as it was a Chosen Instrument or Vessel in and by which God declared the Blessed Glad-Tidings of Love and his Message of Reconciliation to the World in which he gave the most Heavenly Example of Purity and through whose whole Life Doctrine and Death did shine forth the clearest Evidences of Truth Goodness Mercy Patience deep Travel for the World Self-Denyal Holiness and Triumphant Matyrdom No Wonder then if he be called a Saviour who not only came on an Embassy of Salvation and when come did draw many after him who were struck with the Authority of his Sayings when he allow'd for a time to have their Eyes and Hearts upon him as in that State present with them But afterwards he let his Disciples know of how much Benefit it would be to them that he should leave them How Forever In all Capacities No but as with respect to his outward Appearance that being scattered in that Day to their own Measure of Light Pon er and Life they might know him NO MORE AFTER THE FLESH but witness him come into their Hearts a Comforter who could not leave his true-hearted Disciples comfortless He that is with you shall be in you To be brief that I may yet again express our reverent Sense of Christ's Manifestation so far as relates to that Holy Thing that should be born of Mary take these few particulars in my next Chapter CHAP. XXI A Confession in particular to Christ's Redemption Remission Justification and Salvation I. WE do confess that though the Eternal Power Life and Light which inhabited that Holy Person which was born at Nazareth was is chiefly eminently the Saviour for there is no Saviour besides me saith God yet that it was Instrumentally a Saviour as prepared and chose●… o●… the Work which Christ had then to do i●… it which was actually to the Salvation of some and intentionally of the whole World then and in Ages to come suitable to that Scripture Lo in the Volumn of the Book it is written I come to do thy Will O God a Body hast thou prepared me c. II. That as there was a Necessity that one should dye for the People so whoever then or since believed in Him had and have a Seal or Confirmation of the Remission of their Sins in his Blood and that Blood alluding to the Custom or the Jewish Sacrifices shall be an utter Blotting out of former iniquates carrying them as into a Land of Forgetfulness This grand Assurance of Remission from the Wrath due upon the Score or former Offences do all receive in the Ratifying Blood of Christ who Repenting of their Sins believe and obey the Holy Light with which he hath Illuminated them For Paul's being turned from Darkness to the Light in his Heart was one with his believing in the Son of God revealed in his Heart III. This more glorious Appearance ended that less glorious Service of the Jews the Figures being compleated the Shadows they fell He in that Body preacht and lived beyond those Beggarly Elements He drew Religion more Inward even into the Secret of the Heart and made it to consist in an higher State o●… Righteousness called Evangelical and at once became both the Auth●…ro 〈◊〉 Heavenly Dispensation and therein an Example to all as well Jews and Gentiles sealing such a Common and General Religion to both with his Blood as would forever end the Difference and slay the Enmity that they might be all one in Christ. Thus did he end the Jews External Services
they are though once they were as Calenders for weak People to read some mystically Glory by but Beggarly Elements VI. That not only in that Flesh did the Eternal Light preach forth it self the End of these Things by Revealing becoming the Author of a more plain and perfect Way though less easie to Flesh and Blood placing the Stress of all upon an Eva●…gelical Righteousness whereof he became the first Mi●…er and our most Holy Example but he also appear'd in that publick Body so peculiarly prepared a General Saviour by his Life Doctrine Miracles Death of the Cross Resurrection in and by all which he obtained a Name above every Name VII That nevertheless not to the Body but holy Light of Life therein is chiefly to be asscribed the Salvation and to the Body however excellent but Instrumentally for that it was the Eternal Light and Life which gave the Weight to all the Actions and Sufferings of the Body VIII That the Benefit then procured is not witnessed by any but as they come to believe in Christ the Light as he doth appear in the Heart and Conscience to save from Sin destroy the Works of the Devil finish Transgression and bring in of his Everlasting Righteousness Wherefore to fancy one's self intituled to a State of Salvation whilst in Rebellion against the Light within which is Christ's inward Knocking and Appearance must needs be a Delusion most pernicious and destructive to the Souls of men IX That upon the whole it is determin'd and concluded that Christ is that Light which shineth in the Conscience X. That the Light is prov'd by Reason both Universal and Sufficient The first from the Consent of Mankind the Goodness and Rectitude of God the second from both Experience and that it were inconsistent with God to give a Light to his Creature insufficient for the Work for which he gave it Thus in short have I given the Heads and Results of most of the Matter contained in the whole Discourse upon the Light and I intreat our Adversaries they would seriously weigh the Whole before they either reject it or endeavour to reply to it But let them be advised to try the Virtue of the Light before they sentence it to have none And in the Love of God be once prevail'd upon to consider if something in them doth not really Condemn them amongst other things for these brisk Attempts against it Oh! Why should Men covet to Know so far beyond what they do faithfully Practise Let them first out-live the Just and Holy Requirings of the. LIGHT before they put these Barbarous Affronts upon it of a WIL IN THE WISP A DARK LANTHORN-LIGHT NATURAL INSUFFICIENT IGNIS FATUUS THE QUAKERS IDOL and abundance of such like Frothy Prophane and indeed Blasphemous Epithetes which they wickedly bestow upon IT as if they were Its P●…per Names when the Scriptures they would oppose to it plainly tell them that the whole Work of the Apostolical Ministry was To turn People from Darkness to the Light from the Power of Sathan unto God that they might have Remission of Sins As much as to say Such as are turned to the Light are turn'd to God who is Light and those who abide there both have Remission of the Punishment and Purgation from the Defilement of Sin And whatever any may think of us we both believe assert and will maintain against Men and Divels that God is LIGHT and that out of the Light or void of his Divine Illumination no man can Know him and consequently not Worship him unless they should worship an Unknown God That such as receive this Illumination and rebel not against it but improve this Heavenly Talent they have Fellowship with the Pure Eternal God and experience the Blood of Jesus Christ to cleanse the●… from all Unrighteousness If any think to arrive at Glory another Way and will not be admonisht let them proceed we speak what we know and can but declare what we have felt of the Work of God in our Hearts The Scriptures we highly value But we believe not the things we often quote thence to be true Only because there but for that we are Witnesses of the same Operation and bring in our experimental Testimonies to confirm the Truth of theirs and such truly honour the Scriptures all others are at best but empty Scribes and Pharisaical Babblers So with God I leave my Labour in this Particular desiring that his Heavenly Light may yet more abundantly arise upon the Dark Hearts of Mankind and awaken them to Repentance that since IT hath so long shined in Darkness uncomprehended till even Darkness it self is grown so impudent as to interpret its Inability to see the Insufficiency of the Light he would be pleased to cause it to shine out of Darkness that IT might plead the Excellency of ITS own Divine Nature in the Consciences of Men and Women against the daily Scornes and base Detractions that even great Professors of Christianity stick not to fling upon It so ill are they principl'd and so un-Christianly employ'd which proves to me how little they are Profess●…rs of the True Pure and Undefiled Religion what ever Place their cunning Devices may have given them in the Hearts of Weak and Simple People My Soul pittyeth their Opposition and feareth the Consequence of such Resistance and desires they may see the very Vanity of their Endeavours against the Light Repent of them and be Converted that God may yet Heal them which sincere Desire is my Return for all their Hard Speeches and Ungodly Sayings against us in general and my self in particular W. Penn. AN APPENDIX To the First Part being a Discourse OF THE GENERAL RULE OF Faith and Life AND Judge of Controversie Greatly importing all those who desire to take Right Measures of Faith and to Determine at least to themselves the numerous Controvers●…es now on foot in the World By the same Author For in Christ Jesus neither Circumcision availeth any thing nor Uncircumcision but a NEW Creature And as many as walk according to THIS Rule Peace be on them and Mercy and upon the whole Israel of God Gal. 6. 16. But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit for the Spirit searcheth all things yea the deep things of God The Things of God knoweth no Man save the Spirit of God He that is Spiritual judgeth all things 1 Cor. 2. 10 11 15. But ye have an Unction from the Holy One and ye know all things 1 John 2. 20. Printed in the Year 1673. OF THE GENERAL RULE OF Faith and Life SInce there be so many Faiths in the World and perplext Controversies about them and that it greatly behoveth every man if to Contend for then first to Know the True Faith that overcometh the World It may not be unnecessary to say something of the General Rule of Faith and Life and Judge of Controversie at this time And indeed I am prest to it from this weighty
that Favour as suppress us and restrain our Liberty for them as their bitter Invectives and invet crate Clamours plainly import and intimate their persecuting Spirit and Implac●…ble Ma●…ice as while they are complaining against our Principles Doctri●…es as ●…amnable 〈◊〉 us Cheats Impostors Romish 〈◊〉 c. Th●…ugh their Charge herein they have never proved against us nor can they this doth not only bespeak a Willingness or ●…esire to have our Principles suppresse●… but our Persons likewise As also T. Hick's proclaiming to the World p. 62 that the Quaker's Religion is a meer Cheat calculated to the Service of the Devil and wickedly infianating against our Sufferings that the Satisfaction of our Wills and Lusts the promoting our Carnal Interest Respect only to something to be enjoyed here Carnal Advantage Outward Gains c. may be our chief Motive Inducement and Encouragement to do and suffer as we do Dialogue p. 75. And he questions whether we are not really acted by some Romish Emissaries to insinuate covertly many of their own Heresies to distract deform and declaim the Protestant Profession c. p. 76. Judge Candid Reader whether these malitious and false Insinuations do not savour of a persecu●…ing Spirit though they would not be seen to envy our Liberty yet how do these Invectives tend to stir up Persecution and to incense the World and instigate the Rulers against us sor our Suppression Their pretended Alegations sor them are hereafter answered and refuted and how absurd they are in these Accusations 1st To insinuate that our Sufferings have been either for Carnal Advantage Temporal Gains or to satisfie Lusts whilst in our resigning up our selves to these many and deep Sufferings we have often offered up our Lives and consequently with them all our Temporal Enjoyments and Advantages us many this Day can testifie together with those many Innocent Person 's Lives that have been laid down among us in and by Imprisonments Exilements and other Sufferings 2ly How ill it doth become these Anabaptists to endeavour to make the World believe that we are either influenced or acted by Romish Emissaries either to distract deform or defame the Protestant Profession which is not only a Popular and deceitful Insinuation against us as if the Dippers had the chief Care of Protestant Religion or were the most Catholick therein but most notoriously false and wicked and I challenge Thomas Hicks and all therest of his Fratcrnity to prove it or else forever to be ashamed thereof Have they not more cause to look back at home and reflect upon themselves since that divers of their Brethren even some of their Preachers have turned Papists of late Years whose Names being so well known I need not now mention them but when or where did any Preachers owned among us turn Papists or were any such Emissaries Oh the great Enmity that 's in these our Opposers and their great Disingenuity and Immoderation that appears among them as will further be manifest to their Shame and the Lord will certainly rebuke them and all their feigned Coverings will be too narrow for them and they shall see and be ashamed of their Envy at his People But I must proceed to give the Reader a short view of some of Thomas Hicks Doctrines that past at a Dispute and in a Paper of his before his Fictitious and Unchristian Dialogue came forth as some Introduction to my following Answer which was writ quickly after the said Dialogue came forth London the 4th 1st Month 1673. I am a Well-Wisher to all Men even desiring my Enemies Repentance G. W. Some of the Doctrines and Contradictions of Thomas Hicks declared at a Discourse between him and some of the Quakers so called in Alderman-Berrey London the twentieth of the third Month 1672. FIrst He owned the Baptists above other People That is no Honour to them 2ly That he did not own Water Baptism to be necessary or of Necessity to Salvation True but contrary to many of his Brethren 3ly That the Quakers err in Fundamentals denying the Person of Christ denying the true Christ and Resurrection These are Impudent Slanders 4. That the Life or Light spoken of John 1. 4 9. is not supernatural because it is the Light of the Word as Creator A Blasphemous Inconsistency This was noted down at the Interim of the Discourse before him but snacht away by one of his Companions So that h●… concluded the ●…ight in every Man is but Natural and not sufficient to guide to Salvation False Doctrine the Light of the Eternal Word is supernatural and sufficient 5ly That the Life which is in God which is the Light of Men John 1. 4. is divine as it is in God but natural as it is in Man Blasphemy that Life is Immutable because Divine 6ly That the Light that is given in common to Men is not able to apprehend things supernatural A false and inconsistent Doctrine And yet able to apprehend and bring Men clearly to see the Invisible things of God even the Eternal Power and Godhead Rom. 1. 19 20. A true Concession but a Contradiction to the former 7ly Evasion That it is able to discern the Eternal Power and God head but not the things that are supernatural that are in God A gross Contradiction the Eternal Power and GodHead are supernatural 8ly That it was a Natural Light a Light of Conscience and a depraved renewed Nature by which the Gentiles did those things contained in the Law Rom. 2. 14. Absurd Inconsistencies and Falshoods 9ly That the Light in the Heathen in Philosophers and others was able to apprehend God and his Divine Power but not those things that are in God A gross Inference are those things higher then God 10ly That it cannot discover the human Nature of Christ or the Body that he took upon him nor his Suffering nor Death And yet it can discover the divine Attributes of God his Wisdom Power Goodness Love and direct Men to love him A manifest Contradiction can it discover the greater and not the lesser 11ly But the Light in the Quakers cannot discover the Person of Christ nor his human Nature Sufferings Death c. Yet it is the Life and Light of Christ. 12ly That the Quakers deny the Person of Christ his Offices Satisfaction and the Resurrection of the Body c. Lyes and Slanders forged and brought forth in Envy and Darkness 13ly That it s their Principle that whosoever believes in that Christ that suffered at Jerusalem and expects Salvation by him they are deceived in their Faith and shall be damned c. This he spake of James Nayl●…r's Love to the Lost near the Beginning of the Discourse This is an Abuse the true Christ is but one and the same yesterday to day and forever 14ly Also at the Beginning he said that the Baptists and Presbyterians agree in Fundamentals and there are good People among Presbyterians therefore they might joyn against the Quakers for they err
Light of Jesus Christ and secret Power of God that moved in them and opened their Hearts and seriously inclined them to hear the Gospel preached and which Light in them closed with the lively Testimony thereof which did concur with the Light to the opening their Understandings and turning their Minds from Darkness and Sin to the Light shining in their Hearts and when those of the Circumcision heard how well the Gentiles were prepared to receive the Gospel and the Effect of it Act. 10. and 11. Chap. They were then convinced of God's Graciousness to those of the Uncircumcision as well as to themselves their contending with Peter for going unto and eating with men uncircumcised was then stopped when they heard these things they held their Peace and glorified God saying then hath God also to the Gentiles granted Repentance unto Life And its evident that Cornelius and the rest that received the Word as preached had a Work of saving Grace in their Hearts before which prepared them and begot true desires in them after Life and Salvation Also when Barnabas come to Antioch and had seen the Grace of God he was glad and exhorted them all that with Purpose of Heart they would cleave unto the Lord Act. 11. 23. So this Light of the Grace of God both to and in them was great Encouragement to him so to exhort them but if there had been no Saving Grace in their Hearts what Effect could such Exhortation or Preaching have been of unto them If the Light within be sufficient to save Men then it renders Christs Coming and Suffering needless This is a blind Inference still opposing the Light of Christ within yea and all that is of God in Man as Insufficient and so as neither discovering Christ's Coming nor the Effect of his Suffering or as i●… Men might be saved by his Coming and Suffering without Respect to his Light within which shews gross Darkness as if there were not a Concurrence between the Light within and the End of Christ's Coming and Suffering and he might as well say that if the Ingrafted Word which is within be able to save the Soul then Christ's Coming and Suffering was needless he should rather have sai●… that Christ's Coming and Suffering without was because men were turned from his Light within for if all had walked in his Light within he had not been persecuted and murthered but this man's Argument supposeth Christ's Coming and Suffering to be for the Supply of some great Defect or Insufficiency of his Light within as if man had so well improved it and found it too scanty or Insufficient and therefore by this Christ must suffer and die for his own Light within to supply it whereas Christ dyed for the Ungodly for all men that were dead in Sin who had disobeyed and transgressed his Light within and though there be a Reconciliation by his Death yet the being saved is by his Life whose Life is the Light of men which for men to be turned to in themselves and therein to live to God varies not from the Blessed End of Christs coming and Suffering while he works in man by his Light and Power within both in shewing him Sin saving him from it as he believes in the Light becomes a Child of the Light thereof as Christ exhorted and if we walk in the Light of God the Blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all Sin The Light within cannot be a sufficient Rule because then there would be no certainty of Truth or Error of Sin or Duty for that which one Man maketh Light to Day the same Man will call Darkness to morrow one Man calleth one thing a Sin another calleth it a Duty by this there will be no such thing as Sin but only in the Opinions of Men. Answ. 1. If there can be no Certainty of Truth or Error Sin or Duty by the Light within how is he certain that there is any real Light at all in him 2. His placing such uncertainties and those various and contrary Opinions of men upon the Light within and rendring it an Insufficient Rule either to distinguish between Truth and Error Sin or Duty this is contrary to both Christ's and the Apostles Testimony as namely that it is a manifesting Light both of good and Evil both of those deeds wrought in God and those that are reproved Joh. 3. 20 21. Ephes. 5. 13. wherefore the Light of Christ within is a sufficient Rule 3. And what Proof is it against the Light if one man calls it Light to day and the same call it Darkness to morrow or that one man calleth one thing a Sin another calleth it a Duty doth this therefore prove the Light not a Sufficient Rule Or doth it prove any more then that there are those that put Darkness for Light and Light for Darkness and that call Evil good and good Evil Isa. 5. 20. or those that call that a Sin which others call a Duty If it must ●…om hence be argued therefore that there is no such certain Discovering Light or Rule in man to distinguish these may it not aswell be argued that therefore there is no such thing as Truth or Duty to be distinguished from Error and Sin And doth not this directly lead into Ranterism and finally into Atheism let the Serious Reader judge If the Light within be a sufficient Rule then I have a sufficient Rule within me because you say every Man hath it and I am bound to obey it In Obedience to this Rule I oppose your Errors and in opposing your Errors one of our Lights cannot be a sufficient Rule because such a vast difference between us then one of us hath not a sufficient Rule Answ. However he hereby grants the Light in one of us to be a sufficient Rule pretending that he obeys this Rule and here he hath found another Rule for a Christian besides the Scriptures and then they are not the only or sole Rule of Faith and Practice though its evident he doth not obey the Light within while he represents it so variable and uncertain and the Opposition and difference between us to arise from Light in both whereas the Light is but one and changeth not that divine Principle of Life which is the Light of men is immutably pure and cannot err however the Creature doth therefore it follows that both of us cannot be led by the Light in such direct Opposition for its Darkness that opposeth the Light After his so grosly and impiously slighting and invalidating the Light within he does not at all tell us what good it can do or understand nor what good End or Use God hath given it for to Man-kind nor what shall be the End of them of what Nation soever that walk up to the Light within them nor what Condition or End do the Dictates and Leadings of it tend to this he has not at all resolved but in his Darkness dealt most
corruptly and disingenuously against the Light within but I ask T. H. if the Light within him doth not at some times reprove him for his Passion Envy and Railing which ill becomes a Man professing the Patience and Sufferings of Christ No Man can have a sufficient Light to guide him to Salvation that hath not the Spirit of God because no man can understand the things of God but he that hath the Spirit of God but all men have not the Spirit of God therefore all men have not a sufficient Rule to Salvation because all Men have not the Spirit Answ. By this he hath granted the Spirit of God and Light of it to be a sufficient Guide and Rule to Salvation and to bring man to understand the things of God but how well this agrees with their Doctrine That the Scriptures are the only Rule of Faith and Practic●… and not the Spirit nor Light in man and that the Bible is the means of knowing God I refer to the understanding Reader to judge of And what though all men have not the Spirit either in the Union or Possession of it as their Rule can no man have it that thus hath it not already Seeing he concludes that no man can have a sufficient Light to guide him to Salvation that hath not the Spirit what can no man have it Is it not then to be had and yet 't is granted to be the Saint's Rule whenas that which is the Saint's Rule ought to be every man's Rule because every man ought to be a Saint wherefore God hath afforded some divine Light to every man whereby he may be led out of Darkness call upon God obtain Life receive the Spirit which he giveth to them that ask and become Saint for God is ready to give the Spirit to them that truely ask it which only man can do by a Light of it His Argument that all men have not the Spirit is no Proof that every man is not enlightened by Christ for those are said not to have the Spirit who live not to God in it but in Sensuality Jude 19. and yet such were said to be twice dead ver 12. which they could not have been if they had never been quickened yet being twice dead pluckt up by the Roots they are become sensual having not the Spirit i. e. in the Knowledge Rule Exercise and Union of it But whether shall I go from thy Spirit or whether shall I flee from thy Presence Psa. 139. 7. and upon whom doth not his Light arise when every man that cometh into the World is enlightened by Christ. The Light within cannot be ae sufficient Rule because it is made the Character of a wicked Man to do what is right in his own Eyes and to walk after his own Imaginations then that which they do account their Duty may be their Wickedness highest Wickedness and an Argument of God's severe Curse upon them it s said he gave them up to strong Delusions to believe a Lye Answ. Doth then the wicked man follow the Light within him as his Rule in doing what 's right in his own Evil Eyes and in walking in his own Imaginations Or doth God bring such a severe Curse ●…pon any as the giving up to strong Delusions for walking after or following the Light within How horribly blasph●…mous is it either to suppose or imply these things against the Light within to prove it an Insufficient Rule as this man argues placing not only Uncertainties the various Opinions Thoughts and Imaginations of wicked men upon the Light within but their Wickedness and highest Wickedness if they own it their Duty his Argument blasphemously places it upon the Light within most blindly confounding wicked men's Imaginations Wickedness which the Devil is the Author of with the Light in every man without distinction wherein Ranter like he puts Darkness for Light and Light for Darkness which wo is to them that doth Isa. 5. 20. Whereas they that follow their own vain Imaginations and are given up to strong delusions to believe a Lye as T. H. doth are such as have rebelled against the Light rejected the Truth have not glorified God as God nor liked to retain him in their Knowledge see Job 24. 13. Rom. 1. 21. 28. because they obeyed not the Gospel no●… received the Love of the Truth that they might be saved God gave them over to strong Delusions and took Vengeance on them 2 Thes. 1. 8. and Chap. 2. 10 11. Therefore God did afford both a sufficient Light Rule and tendred the Love of the Truth to them as he doth to all else how should they be left without Excuse seeing it is a Righteous thing with God to recompence and render Vengeanc●… on them that know him not for their disobedience It cannot be consistent with his Righteousness in Judgment to bring Tribulation and Anguish upon every Soul that doth Evil or to judge the Secrets of Men by Christ according to the Gospel without ever affording them a Lght of the Gospel or Gospel Nature sufficient to discover Evil and direct to Good and how can Indignation and Wrath come upon them that are Contentious and obey not the Truth but obey Unrighteousness if the Truth did never reach to or enlighten them or how should their not obeying the Truth but Unrighteousness be charged upon them if the Truth were never afforded them Therefore by the same Reason that its confest that God wil render to every man according to his Deeds that there is no Respect of Persons with God it ought to be also confessed or owned that he doth afford to every man a Light of Truth Righteousness sufficient for a Rule to escape Sin and Evil and the Wrath that 's due for it and to direct man unto patient continuance in Well doing to seek for Glory and Immortality that he might obtain eternal Life Glory see consider Rom. 2. throughout which sufficiently signifies 1. The Goodness of God to Man 2. His dispencing of his Grace and Truth to all 3. How Impartial he is Righteous in his Judgment against the disobedient and rebellious who despise his Goodness and thereby bring Wrath upon themselves 4. The acceptance of the Gentiles who obeyed that Law or Light given them though they had not the Law in the Letter of it Wherefore now moderate Reader take notice that the very Ground of our asserting the universal Extent of Saving Grace sufficient Light to Man-kind is 1. The unspeakable Love and Goodness of God as in himself he being Love in the highest 2. His unwillingness that Man should either live or die in Sin he having no Pleasure in the Death of Sinners but rather that they should return and live 3. That he so loved the World that he sent his Son into the World that whosoever believes in him might not perish but have Everlasting Life in that he sent not his Son into the World to condemn
the Light within unknown to the Cavilling Baptist. T. H. WHo or what is it that obeyeth this Light and in Obedience of it is saved Or if this Light be the Rule it doth suppose a subject capable of understanding it and of yielding Obedience to it p. 4. Answ. It s placed in the Heart and Conscience of man that he with his whole Soul Mind and Spirit may understand and obey it and come to Life and Salvation in Christ being guided by his Light in the Conscience T. H. What then is the Principle Either the Light must obey it self or Darkness must obey it Answ. Thy Darkness makes thee talk thus darkly and scribble thus nonsensically the Spirit of man is to obey every degree of this divine Light given of God that the whole man may be in Subjection for which End God hath given man a spiritual Capacity and Power to obey by the Vertue of Grace that the reasonable Soul in believeing in the Light and obeying it may find Relief and more Power from God comfortably to subsist in the Way of Life and Peace with him And though it be not a Scripture Phrase to tell of two such Lights in every man as thou mentions p. 14. Yet as the Light of the Body is the Eye which seeth the object of Light and there is a single Eye which causeth the whole Body to be full of Light So in man hath God placed the Eye of the Understanding and Mind and a Conscience in the reasonable Soul which is capable of receiving the divine Light as both the supream Rule and commanding Light and they that are translated out of Darkness into it are become Children of the Light And if thou wert come to this Estate thou needst not question who is the subject of Obedience to the Light whether the whole Person or only a part for the whole man ought to be the subject and where the Eye of the mind is single the whole Body is full of Light and no part dark But for the whole person to be subject to the Light is inconsistent with thine and thy Brethrens Doctrine for Sin and Imperfection during Life Why then dost thou now suppose the whole Person to be the Subject when thou art not real in what thou implyest of the whole Persons being obedient p. 15 16. And thou dost but play the Fool and Caveller whilst thou art drawing such a Conclusion upon us as that by our Principle the Light must obey it self and in so doing be saved this is only inferred from a Fiction of thy own Framing or a Quaker of thy own making to speak as thou pleasest for the Light is given for the Benefit of Mankind that they that truely follow it and throughly obey it with Subjection of both Soul Spirit and Body may know Salvation from Sin here and Wrath her●…after And so man in his spiritual being both in Soul and Body spiritual as changed or translated from a State of Mortality may forever enjoy a State of Immortality in Glory hereafter as they who are led by the Counsel of God shall afterwards be received into Glory for man as translated into that Celestial Spiritual State is most capable of the full Enjoyment of Glory with God hereafter Sect XI Concerning the Soul of man as under divers Considerations and States and G. Fox ' s VVords so considered with ●…ight Queries added COncerning the Soul of man thou vehemently accusest us with Fancies Conceits Absurdities Nonsence and Error p. 16. Thy Instance for this is viz. That G. F. mentions in his great Mystery c. p. 68. and 100. That the Soul is part of God and of his being and that it is without beginning p. 91. and also infinite p. 29. Whence thy Inference is viz. Which is as much as to say the Soul is God then God sets up a Light in himself which he himself is to obey and in so doing he shall be saved p. 16. Answ. We cannot expect any impartial or fair Dealing from thee while Prejudice and Envy do possess thee who hast both falsly and ignorantly represented G. F. and both curtayled and perverted his Words and the Sence of them And all these things mentioned by thee he does not speak of the Soul or Spirit of man as made or formed in him though composed of Spiritual Parts nor use these Expressions that the Soul or Spirit of the Creature Man is a part of God without beginning neither was the Phrase part of God originally G. F's but his Opposers only admitted of by him by Way of Question as plainly appears p. 100. with Relation to that which came out from God that immediate Spirit of Life which gives Being Life and Subsistance to the Soul and he doth distinguish between the Soul and Christ the Bishop of it between the Soul and the Saviour of it as plainly appears in many places of the said Book and the Soul could no otherwise be deemed infinite then as Man is said to be the Image and Glory of God namely by a Participation thereof so he speaks of the Soul in a two-fold Sense as First With reference to that which came out from God which is the Original Life or Soul of every Man's Soul Secondly With Respect to man as being made a living Soul by Vertue of the Spirit of Life proceeding from God And so with Relation to the first he questions Is not that of God which comes out from God Great Mystery p. 68. But with Relation to the latter viz. Man he speaks distinctly of the Soul as neither God nor Christ neither doth he confound the Being of man with the Infinite Being of his Creator as is implyed in our Opposers angry Charge for as every Spiritual Being or Existence is not divine so the Spirit or Spiritual Parts of Man are not God though a divine Light and Capacity is placed in them And G. F. doth not only speak of the Soul in a two-fold Sense viz. with Relation to its original Life and with Relation to man in his Spirituality but of the Soul of man as in several States as First Of the Souls being in Death in Transgression man's Spirit unsanctified the Soul being come into Death transgressing the Law c. Great Mystery p. 91. Therein he cannot intend the infinite Essence Being or Life of God or Christ which is immutable and unchangeably pure and holy though thereby the Soul is upheld in its Being and Immortality whether in Comfort or Misery Secondly Of the Soul and Spirit of Man as sanctified living to God in his Life through a diligent hearkening to the Counsel and Voice of God and feeling of his Hand which brings up out of Death and restores the Soul that it may live in Christ the Preserver and Overseer of it to praise God the Saviour being one Soul in that State as they that are joyned to the Lord are one Spirit As also G. F. adds viz. Every Man that cometh into the World having a
Light from Christ Jesus the Way out of the Fall the second Adam receiving the Light they receive Redemption and Sanctification whereby their Spirits Bodies and Souls are sanctified Great Mystery p. 91. Note here still that he plainly distinguisheth between the Soul and him that redeems and sanctifies it so that the Soul or Spirit of Man is neither God nor Christ but as much inferior in Subordination to God and Christ as the Creature Man is to the Creator or that which is saved and redeemed to him that saveth and redeemeth The sum of what 's said amounts to this candid Account about the Soul viz. That the Soul and Spirit of Man is not the very Being of God nor a part of God though the original Life of the Soul which came out from God is immutable and infinite there is a divine and infinite Life in the Soul of Man which we would have you be sensible of This is the Life of Lives the Soul of Souls the Being of Beings by which the Soul of man is made to subsist in its Being and Immortality whether in the Kingdom of Glory or Pit of Darkness although this original or divine Life in the Soul stands clear and free from both the Guilt Torment and Anguish that comes upon every Soul of Man that does Evil. Every Soul must appear before the Lord in its own proper Image and Nature which it hath born been under and received while in the Body having been subject either to the Spirit and Power of God or to the Spirit and Power of the wicked one wherein it s capable of either being a Vessel of Mercy and Love or a Vessel to hold Wrath and Anguish according to what it doth here love and effect and contract to it self whether Good or Evil. Therefore as it s commanded Take heed to thy self and keep thy Soul diligently c. love the Lord thy God with all thy Soul c. and then thou wilt know Christ to be the Salvation of it The Scripture speaks variously of the Soul and as in divers States and Conditions viz. 1. Of the Soul of God which is Immutable 2. Of the Soul of Man and that 1. Of the Righteous which really pertake of the divine Nature 2. Of the Wicked which pertake of the Nature of Enmity And these differ in their Affections the one being to Good and the other to Evil. Mention is made of the Soul as under the Power of Sin Death and the Grave by man's Disobedience and Fall and of the Soul as quickned raised up and delivered or saved by the Power of Christ the living ingrafted Word Sometimes the Soul is mentioned as including the whole man sometimes as distinguished from the Body sometimes it s esteemed as the Life and sometimes the Spirit or Breath of Life and an active Soul inspired and there is a State wherein the Word of the Lord is said to divide asunder betwixt the Soul and Spirit Now if you do not own a divine Seed or unchangeable Principle of Life in the Soul I query of you 1st Do you or did you ever know your own Souls 2ly What the Soul is in it self and distinct from the Body 3ly What and where is that to be known that is to change the Souls and so the whole man's Affections from Evil to Good while man remains in this Life 4ly Do you own the Souls Immortality that it doth not dye with the Body Do not some of you Baptists hold that the Soul dyeth with the Body and sleeps in the dust of the Earth untill both arise together 5ly Whether Man doth not subsist in his spiritual Being and Parts with a spiritual Capacity and spiritual Sences having a Sense of perpetual Gain or Loss when his Earthly Tabernacle is put off 6ly Whether the Spirit of Man doth not return unto God that gave it to receive its Judgment and Reward 7ly Whether Man must not be born again here of an Immortal and Incorruptible Seed in him if ever he enter into God's Kingd●…m or enjoy Glory hereafter 8thly Whether it be not more necessary for you to wait in humilily to know this immortal Seed in you and to be born thereof then to puzzle your Brains and to busie your Thoughts either about the Quest●…on how and with what Body are the Dead raised Or how your Souls shall be invested hereafter If you remain here in the Enmity slighting and contemning the Light within or the immortal Principle or incorruptible Seed within as T. H. doth scoff and ridiculously droll at our Testimony for it you 'll be clothed with perpetual shame and Contempt hereafter God knows how to reserve the Unjust to the Judgement of his great Day to be punished as both Divels fallen Angels and wicked men are reserved You need not question in what Bodies or Vessels for that you shall be vessels fit to hold inevitable Wrath if here in time you repent not But if you repent and return to the Lord God and love and serve him with all your Souls it will be well with you hereafter God will provide well for you And the Glory wherewith his sanctified Ones shall be invested And of that House wherewith Righteous Souls shall be cloathed upon is beyond the reach of humane Capacities Thoughts or Imaginations of men And you who are contending and quarrelling about your carnal Bodies have not had so much as a Vision of the Glory of the Saints hereafter nor of the Gloriousness and Spirituality of their Body who are as the Angels of God in Heaven Sect. XII The Neck of the Baptist's Cause broken by his own Concession to the Light within in which Christ and his Testimonies are effectually received T. H. HOw could you call the Light within Christ if some Scriptures had not mentioned Christ in you that he is the Life and Light of Men Give me an Instance of any Person in the World that never had Acquaintance of the Scriptures that ever called the Light in every Man by this Name If none can be produced then the Scriptures must be your Rule for this p. 22. Answ. Thou hast said enough in not only granting the Light within to be Christ but also in confessing that he is the Life and Light of men which while he is really so to men this is sufficient for them to call him as he is and appears to them Is it not therefore great Ignorance to imply him an insufficient Rule for men to give Testimony of him while he is a sufficient Rule and Light to them for their Supply and Life in him And what if they cannot call him by all those Names by which he is called in Scripture while they feel him in Vertue and Power to be really what he is called according to their Enjoyment of him It s true we having the Knowledge of him as our Life and Light we must needs reverently own and make use of those Testimonies in Scripture which concur with our Knowledge of him
Sincere and Upright accompanied with an earnest reaching after Perfection as Paul did p. 51. Answ. What ever Perfection with respect to a full Apprehension or Knowledge was prest after by Paul as Phil. 3. 12 13. yet this his Perfection granted of Sincerity and Uprightness was sinless it was pure in Nature wherein he was capable of attaining a perfect Growth in spiritual Understanding And this is implyed in his pressing after Perfection while he was perfect as appears in his own Words But if in this Sence sincere and upright Men do earnestly reach after a sinless Perfection and that Paul did so then it is attainable otherwise both Paul and the rest did ●…rnestly strive after an Impossibility and this renders both their Praying Striving and Preaching in valid as yours is who put on People earnestly to reach after Per●…ction and yet tell them it is not attainable Upon Mat. 5. 〈◊〉 Be ye perfect as your Heavenly Father is perfect thou presumest We intend not that we should be perfectly powerful wise and good as God is Answ. 1st We do not intend that we should be God but holy just and good men renewed after his own Image which is perfect 2ly Though not so perfectly powerful and wise as God is yet while thou withal excludes being good as God is thou art contradictory in saying the meaning of the Text is Be Merciful as your Heavenly Father is Merciful that is Love your Enemies do good to them that hate you p. 51. these are not intelligibly consistent That we must not be good as God is and yet Merciful as he is that is love our Enemies c. I would know if that Soul is not endued with the Goodness of God that is endued with his Mercy and Love so as to do good to enemies Was it not a plain Caracter of being his Children when they did so love their Enemies and do good to them that did hate them See Math. 5. 44 45. But this perfect Resemblance of the Heavenly Father such Sin-pleasers and pleaders as T. H. will not admit of in this Life who is so far from this Love and Goodness towards Enemies that his Enmity leads him to abuse bespa●…ter and defame such of us who never owed him or his Friends ever any ill-will in the World But when doth he expect this divine Resemblance of God or sinless Perfection to be brought forth It doth appear in Answer to the Question stated by him thus viz. Where wouldst thou be perfectly free from Sin if not in this Life His Answer is in Heaven p. 50. Reply He would be perfectly free from Sin in Heaven as he pretends but opposeth Perfection being attainable in this Life accounting that it causeth much Pride Presumption hinders all holy Fear Humility Watchfulness and industrious Endeavours to Persons in a holy Course whereas this all tends to a perfect Life But sufficiently hath he contradicted this his sinful Doctrine against a perfect Freedom where he confesses p. 24 That Christ came to carry on in the World the Design of insinite Grace and Love in being a Saviour of S●…ers from Sin Death and Hell Note here he hath given a deadly Blow to his own Imperfect lame and Sinfull Cause for if Christ came into the World to save Sinners from Sin and to redeem us from all Iniquity then to be so saved is attainable in this Life for Christ is able perfectly to do the Work which he came for that is to save from Sin and to redeem from all Iniquity Again T. H. in his Forgery deals very corruptly according to his ●…onted manner in stating the Christian and the Quaker thus speaking viz. Chr. If thou canst prove a perfect Freedom from Sin 's Inherency c. remember thou must prove it by Scriptures or Instances Qua. I will prove it by both First By Scriptures Phil. 3. 15. Math. 5. 48. Secondly By Instances Many of our Friends do witness it p. 50 51. Reply Herein most falsly and abusively he hath acted the Quakers speaking his own Notorious Forgery as Proo●… They have no Reason to chuse him for their mouth for what needed they bring any Instances of themselves for any Proof when they are left to prove Perfection by Scriptures or Instances while the Scriptures plainly prove it And let me tell him it is not our manner of arguing with our Opposers to tell them that many of our Friends do witness Perfection knowing not only that to be the thing which they seek to reproach us by but also that to plead the Verity of Principles from the meer Credit of Persons asserting them to be no prevalent Proof nor Effect any Conviction while the Persons themselves are slited and abused But our Adversary having thus falsly acted the Quaker as before as saying many of our Friends witness Perfection he declines the Scriptures for it and falls upon personal reviling and to express to the World some wrong Expressions and Mistakes of Persons If he rightly state them which I much question because his many notorious Abuses Sect. XXII Tho. Hicks his groundless Calumny and malitious Railing against G. Whitehead NOw we come to his Railing and Sla●…der against G. Whitehead viz. That he is guilty of Deceit and Falshood in matter of Fact and that he told him he was a Knave that is he was a false deceitful man p. 53. Answ. Here I shall take leave to answer for my self therefore understand Reader what he pretends as his Reason for this abusive Language to me I find two things he pretends for it First He accuseth me with denying mine Opinions when charged with them 2ly He that shall give a false Relation of what another man asserts and does it wifully is false and Deceitful But th●…s he accuseth me and why so But because I acknowledged Explicatio●…s to be given to his Propositions yet gives not the least him what t●…ose Explications were p. 53. Reply To the first what I did deny I still do deny as none of my Opinions as stated by T. H. in his accusing the Quakers That they deny the Person of Christ his Offices Sati●…action and the R●…surrection of the Body I do recharge these upon him as his Lyes and Slanders forged and brought forth in Envy and Darkness as I did in the Paper and publick Debate between us and in so doing I do not deny any Opinion or Tenent of mine or my Friends And he dealt most dis-ingenuously in not laying down my own Words to prove that I denyed the Person of Christ or his Offices Satisfaction and the Resurrection But instead thereof was it either ingenuous or honest to bring my ●…dversary T. D. his Pamphlet stiled a Sinopsis which falsly accuseth me with saying there is no Resurrection from the Dead for Proof Most falsly instancing my Answer to W. Burnet in which Answer quite contrary to what I am accused o●… I have given a plain Confession to the man Christ his Offices Satisfaction and the Resurrection
and thus to limit and circumscribe God and his Light or Shining to be so and in like manner as the Sun and its Beams doth mani●…est such gross Apprehensions of God as he did before in expecting to see him with bodily Eyes And this relates to the old Heresie of the Anthropomorphites or Monks in the desarts of Aegypt as also to that of the present Mugletonians who imagine God to be a personal or bodily Existence circumscribed as to place denying him to be an infinite Spirit yet thus far I will admit of his Simile by a Reason of the contrary that as the natural created Sun immediately sends forth its Beams or Rayes which are natural and do influence the Earth with the Vertue of the Sun so the eternal increated Spi●…itor Word doth shine and shew forth its own immediate increated divine Light and Vertue in the Hearts and Souls of Man-kind as the Sun is natural and created so is its Light or Shining and as God the eternal Word is increated and super-natural so is his immediate Shining or Light in the Hearts and Souls of Man-kind and as a man's Eye is directly set towards the Sun in the least Beam thereof shining through any Crevis into any Dungeon Cell or other oscure place it sees directly to the Sun it self so the Eye of the Soul being directe dtowards God by the least Appearance of his divine and immediate Shining or Illumination therein it hath a Sight of God and the Soul thereby comes to seel of his Vertue and Power in waiting upon him And for this man to conclude that this Light of the eternal Word cannot teach and reveal unto man the Lord Jesus Christ p. 50. is to deny Jesus Christ to be the Word or that true Light that enlightneth every Man whereas his Illumination directs man immediately to himself as its eyed and minded As also he is as narrow shallow and partial in concluding the Light will not reveal unto man his Saviour without the Help of the Scriptures p. 50. this is a strange undervaluing of the Light of Christ what then did the Scriptures proceed from Was it not the Light And what shall become of all those Nations and People that have not the Scriptures if this be true It is none of our Assertion that Christ in his Death and Sufferings was but only a Pattern or Example of that which must be wrought over again in us for though we own him to have left an Example yet he was more then an Example and he did not only end the Types but was a Sacrifice and Offering for Man-kind and opened the new and living Way giving Testimony of God's free Love towards all and making Way for the enforcing of the new Testament or Covenant of Life But yet that either all or any men are cleansed or justified or saved meerly by the outward Sufferings Crucifixion Death or Blood shed of Christ the Scripture proves not but by Christ himself and his Blood Life Spirit and Power nor yet that men are acquitted or saved by their outward Application thereof And this man to his own Confutation confesseth to the Power of Christ s Spirit being risen in us for our Sanctification and Renovation as well as Christ was raised from the dead for our Justification p. 54. then all is not fully doneby his Death without them but both the End and Mystery of the Cross Sufferings and Death of Christ without 〈◊〉 be known and fulfilled within see Philip. 3. 10. although this man seems not willing to hear of Christ's being a Pattern or Example of that which must be wrought over again in us p. 50 yet in Contradiction to this he saith The Lord Jesus Christ hath wrought Red●…mption and Salvation for me and revealed this by his Word and Spirit and 〈◊〉 it in me p. 52. it s well that in any Measure he is made to grant to this inward Work of Christ. IX Further about their Ordinances His pleading for their shadowy and carnal Ordinances to continue under this Notion viz. Under his Shadow I have with the Spouse sat down and his Fruit is and hath been sweet unto my t●…ste p. 53. This is a very impertinent Instance and altogether improper to reckon Bread Wine and Water-Baptisin that Shadow of the Souls Beloved to wit Christ that the Spouse sat under seeing the Lord himsel●… saith I will be a Shadow from the Heat and a Refuge from the Storm And we are so far from believing these his carnal Ordinances to be the direct Shadow of the Souls Beloved in that neer Sence that we look upon him he is yet to prove them Appointments Institutions and Ordinances of Christ or of Necessity to continue in the Church notwithstanding his spiritual Coming and Revelation which he hath not much less that they are spiritual or of a Spiritualness as he saith p. 59. and 60. which he hath manifestly contradicted in granting They are but the Sign the Shadow the Shell and Christ the Substance p. 53 54. For my part I don't look upon either John's Baptism or the Supper of Christ and his Disciples at which they had the Passover to be Institutions and Ordinances originally appointed by Christ or enjoyned to all that should succeed in the Gospel and true Church but rather though they were not directly enjoyned by the Law of Moses as we say modo forma yet that they did more naturally relate to that former dispensation of Shadows then to that of the Gospel and new Covenant and that John's Baptism was rather for a Consummation of the Jews divers Sprinklings and Washings under the Law comprehending them in order to end them and Christ's eating of the Passover and drinking with his Disciples Luke 32. to be as a Consummation of the Jews Feasts under the Law viz. that of the Passover and others according to the Relation given at large concerning the Ecclesiastical Rites of the ancien●… Hebrews by T. Goodwin in his Antiquities of the ●…ews called Moses and Aaron p. 86 87 88 89 90 91. and 〈◊〉 and Christ saying As often as you do this is not a ●…ommand and This do in Remembrance of me and 〈◊〉 the Lord's Death till he come does limit a time for its Discontinuance for till he come must either respect his next Coming or render not only his coming after he was risen but his spiritual Coming and Revelation in his Saints no Comings which were absurd and Auti-Christian and there was a time to shew forth his Life as well as his Death Hi●… saying The Sign and thing signified God hath joyned together p. 54. is again contradicted by his granting a Personmay find a Shell and have no Kernel in it p. 54. To which I add That God hath so joyned the Sign or Shadow and the Substance together as so to continue I deny or that the Scripture any where so saith but as for these Baptists Shells Husks and Shadows they are both dry and empty and the Lord is
the Law in the Letter or as outwardly written And if this Immediate Light be not of a saveing Property what Light is And for what end is it given universally to Man-kind That they may be saved or onely to condemn them 2. Christ's enlightning all men as the Eternal Word and that with a spiritual Light flowing from himself as the Eternall Word Enlightening It is not with the Letter which killeth and Cannot give Life but with an Immediate Illumination or Influence of Light from himself which can both kill and make a live it hath both the Law or sentence of Death in it to the transgressor and quickning Vertue and Gospel in it to make alive to God and minister Life and Justification from God to them that truly obey it 3. This immed iate Light or Shining from Jesus Christ as the Eternal Word is neither the Letter of the Law nor created nor yet natural as Anabaptists use to say but as the Eternal Word enlightning man and the Life which was in him being the Light of Men is therefore a Light and Law which can give Life which the Law as in the Letter could not it being the Life it self that was in the Eternal Word H. G. The great Darkness of these Men who cry up Light and Power within this Wile of Satan and Cheat of Anti-Christ p. 31. H. G. Contradiction The Lord Jesus Christ as the Eternal Word enlightneth all Men this Light is the Substance of the Law the Candle of the Lord it doth convince of Sin p. 8. If Heathens follow it they would shine in just living the Work of Faith with Power I do mantain that Faith is required and must be wrought with Power in the Heart p. 15 16. G. W. Animad What horrible Blasphemy is it then to term our crying up the Light and Power of Christ within the Wile of Satan and Cheat of Anti-Christ and how plainly hereby confuted We have Cause to look upon those Heathens that follow the Light or Gift of God within to be more godly and better Christians then many of these Baptists H. G. Rep. Your Lyes and Ignorance I say the Darkness of these Men who cry up Light and Power within is great and I did say in p. 31. I should make appear this Wile of Satan and Cheat of Anti-Christ that is to say the Evil Doctrine and Principles of yours And do I contradict this in affirming there is a Light in all Men called the Candle of the Lord and in owning the Inward Work of Faith with Power upon the Heart c. p. 4. G. W. Answer Hath he not before evidently made their crying up Light and Power within the Character of the great Darkness and this the Wile of Satan and Cheat of Anti-christ You that understand Grammer and common Sence mark the Tenour of his Words and how he shuffles to cover this Blasphemy and Contradiction to his confessing that the Lord Jesus as the Eternal Word enlightneth all Men and this is our Principle though now he placeth the great Darkness Wile of Satan and Cheat of Anti-Christ upon our Doctrine and Principles without Exception concerning the Light within and thus still ensnares himself in his Confusion as also in one while affirming that this Light in Man is the Substance of the Law or first Covenant another while that it is the formed Spirit in Man Zach. 12. 1. which is called the Candle of the Lord as in his 9th pag. of his first Book Where note that by seeking to obscure his gross Contradiction before he is run into another viz. One while calling the Light of the Eternal Word in every Man The Substance of the Law of the first Covenant yea now the Ministration of Death or Letter that killeth from 2 Corrinth 3. 6 7. cited by him another while he calls this Light in every man A Spirit that God hath given or formed in Man you who can distinguish between the Law or Letter of it written in Table of Stone and the Spirit of Man Judge if this Anabaptist be not plainly contradictory to himself herein for is the Spirit of Man and the Law written both one and the same thing And while the Spirit of Man is confest to be the Candle of the Lord it s lighted by his Divine Word or Fire The Lord hath lighted my Candle II. The Sufficiency of the Light within to reveal God Christ c. HEnry Grigg again shuffles and beggs the Question thus viz. Do not you say that this Light which is in every Man that cometh into the World is God is Christ is the Holy Spirit or Blessed Comforter and a Saving Light and that it will convince a Man of every Sin and Transgression and lead into all Truth c. Answ. He here questions the things which in his 18th pag he affirms The Quakers speak of the Light within viz. That it is the Divine Essence the Lord Jesus Christ the holy Spirit c. But I ask him where or in what Book and page do the Quakers speak all this of that Measure or Gift of Light that is in every man he deals disingenuously in not citing our own Books and Pages for these Words that we might consider further thereof seeing the Stress of his Charge lies so much on them which though we assert it to be a divine Light of God and Christ and holy Spirit which are one and omni-present filling Heaven and Earth over all and through all God unlimitted in his Presence which to man is an Enlightning Presence yet God and Christ is not revealed in all for he was in the World and the World was made by him and the World knew him not yet his divine Light or immediate Shining in Man is manifest by measure or Degrees as man is capable to receive it the least degree whereof is saving to them that obey it and tends to direct and draw Man towards God who is the absolute and alone Saviour and he and his Light in men are inseparable whose Salvation is manifest by degrees as his Light or Grace in man's Heart is which hath taught us to wait and to look for that blessed Hope and the glorious apprearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ. The Measure or Manifestation of this Light and Grace which immediately directs and leads to this Appearance of the great God and our Saviour must needs therefore be saving And because God or his Son in his infinite Fulness and Knowledge as in himself cannot be contained in man in that the Heaven of Heavens cannot contain God it follows not therefore that the Measure and Manifestation of his Light in Man is not convincing sanctifying or saving whilst it is confest to be a Light or Illumination of Jesus Christ as the Eternal Word enlightning all Men and Women If the infinite Fulness or Giver of this Light cannot be contained in Man yet God hath promised to tabernacle with Men and to dwell in them it follows
Heaven I say yes and these three are one and is not Christ the Saviour that Word which is one of the three which are but one divine Being Thing or Substance though revealed under several Considerations and Diversities of Manifestations and Degrees of Discoveries yet all one divine Life and Being as God is the Word the Life the Light and so is Christ and the holy Spirit is Life to the Righteous and so is Christ the Way the Truth and the Life In him was Life and the Life the Light of Men the Life affordeth Light to all and the Light Life to all that obey it and in it follow Christ such receive the Light of Life and come to walk in the Light of the Living as the Light of Life is received unto Justification and Peace the holy Spirit is received in that glorious Ministration as Comforter after a State of Desolation and Sorrow of whom Christ said He shall receive of mine and shew it unto you Joh. 16. 13. H. G. Did the true Saviour die on the Cross or not Answ. Yes as concerning the Flesh but not as concerning the Spirit or most noble Principle by which he was impowred to his Work of Salvation H. G. I affirm once again That neither the Comforter viz. the holy Spirit nor the Deity of our Lord Jesus distinct from his Manhood or human Nature could be the Saviour and Mediator which dyed on the Cross c. pag. 7. Answ. This is a meer impertinent Shuffle to prove the holy Spirit could not be the Saviour he now tells us that neither the holy Spirit nor the Deity distinct from his human Nature as he calls it could be the Saviour that dyed who of us ever affirmed that his Deity or holy Spirit dyed But seeing the holy Spirit or Deity dyed not with the Flesh of Christ that was crucified then the whole Saviour did not dye but what he calls the human Nature But if we take his Words according to his Doctrine before for Proof that the holy Spirit or Comforter cannot save or be the Saviour only thus viz. Neither the Comforter the holy Spirit nor the Deity of our Lord Jesus distinct from his Manhood or human Nature could be the Saviour This were all one as to tell us that God cannot be the Saviour or that God cannot save if the holy Spirit or Deity be God he should rather have said that the Manhood could not save without the holy Spirit divine Power or Deity which alone is sufficient and only that which is felt and experienced in Man to effect his Salvation and Deliverance from the Power of Sin and Satan Ye are my Witnesses saith the Lord and my Servants whom I have chosen that ye may know and believe me and understand that I am he before me there was no God formed neither shall there be after me I even I am the Lord and beside me there is no Saviour Isa. 43. 10 11. There is no God else beside me a Just God and a Saviour Chap. 45. 21. And we both labour and suffer Reproach because we trust in the living God who is the Saviour of all men specially of those that believe 1 Tim. 4. 10. And how is God especially known to be the Saviour but in saing man from Sin Unrighteousness and all Guile I will mention the loving Kindness of the Lord c. For he said Surely they are my People Children that will not lye so he was their Saviour Isa. 63. 7 8. Now consider whether it be not grosly erroneous to suppose the holy Spirit o●… Deity cannot save or is so deficient distinct or in it self whereas though God was manifest in Flesh God was in Christ reconciling the World to himself the Divinity and human or earthly Nature were alwayes distinct and is not God omnipotent To the only wise God our Saviour be Glory and Majesty Dominion and Power now and ever Amen V. How the Light in Man is a Gift and H. G' s distinction between the Meritorious and instrumental Cause of Salvation examined H. G. ARt thou not able to distinguish between the Giver and the Gift between the Fountain and the Stream p. 7. Answ. Yes I do distinguish between the Giver and the Gift between the Fountain and the Stream between the Fulness and the receiving thereof Grace for Grace bu●… while the Distinction between God and the Gift of his Spirit or between Christ and his Light within seems to be no more then between the Fountain and the Stream how grosly erroneous is it to conclude either that the Spirit cannot be Saviour or that the Light of Christ is not saving For that 's all one as to say that either the Stream is not the same Water with the Fountain or that the Stream cannot wash because not the Fountain or Fulness who in his right Wits will believe this H. G. But again it appears thou distinguishest not between the meritorious Cause of man's Salvation and the Instrumental the killing of the Sacrifice and the sprinkling of the Blood c. p. 7. 8. Answ. Where doth the Scripture make this Distinction or say that the killing of the Sacrifice which he must mean of Christ is the meritorious Cause of man's Salvation Such like blind distinctions are fit to darken Knowledge and blind Peoples Minds and how gross and unchristian is it to place such a Merit or Worth upon that murtherous Act of killing the Sacrifice if he mean Christ as his Discourse implies For though Christ Jesus by that inherent Holiness and original Righteousness and Grace of God in him offered and gave himself up to suffer and tasted Death for every Man yet the crucifying and killing him according to the Flesh was an Act of Murtherers and Persecutors who by wicked Hand put him to death so that the Dignity and Worth was in Christ and on his Part through all his Sufferings and not in the Act of killing him by wicked Hands nor on their Parts howbeit the Sufferings and Death of Christ were of great value with the Father and his Power did appear through all to the bruising the Serpents Head And if it be the Work of the Spirit to sanctifie and renew us is not this a saving Work And doth not this bring us to receive the Attonement and to enjoy Peace Who follow and obey this Spirit for a Reconciliation through the Death of Christ and being saved by his Life and so the Work of Christ in saving and redecming man from Iniquity and in making Attonement Peace and Union between God and Man however these be directly pointed at made way for by the Suffering and Death of Christ yet they were inwardly revealed effected and fulfilled by the Spirit or Life of Christ where the Word of Reconciliation is received in the Heart For Christ's Appearance and Suffering in the Flesh did really and directly point at those spiritual Ends which are for man's Eternal Advantage to be fulfilled by his Appearance in Spirit VI.
Sins past and that through Faith in the Name and Blood of Christ which hath a secret Influence upon the Soul and sprinkleth the Conscience from dead Works in order both to Pardon and Justification upon the Act of living and true Faith in Christ yea Christ as the one Off●…ing Sacrifice and Propitiation for the Sins of the whole World which puts away Sin consecrates makes true Believers holy and declares God's Coming near to Man in Kindness I say Christ as thus considered hath an inward Influence and Effect upon the believing and penitent Soul to bring it near to God and render it capable of receiving Mercy and Forgiveness and of seeling the Pardon and Peace upon true Conversion from Sin and Evil yea I further testifie that God looks upon and hath a regard to every Appearance and Effect of his Grace and Spirit in the Heart Soul even from the very first Act of Faith springing up and budding of Grace to the highest Growth thereof even from Davids Repentance to his Songs of Deliverance from Niniveh's believing God and repenting to his Peoples walking in Newness of Life from the Prodigal's Return to his Father's House to his abiding therein yea the first Appearance of true Tenderness Remiss and Brokeness of Heart or godly Sorrow for Sin the Lord hath Regard to the Creature for the sake thereof still from the Respect he naturally hath to his Grace and Spirit that works these in Man To this Man will I look saith the Lord that is poor and of a contrite Spirit and trembleth at my Word The Work of Christ or Grace in the Heart from the Beginning to the Accomplishment thereof is acceptable to God because of the Dignity of him that worketh it and not from any Dignity or Worth of the Creatures own but only the Creature is accepted as in Christ we are accepted in the Beloved and it is for Christ's sake that God forgiveth us and not meerly for our own Howbeit it is so far as we are related to Christ and have an Interest in him and his Righteousness by a living Faith that God owns and looks upon us in a Way of Acceptance he respects his own Image in us and doth not justifie acquit or accept Men only upon the Account of Christ's Sufferings and Acts of Obedience as done in his Person for if he did then were all Men justified for whom Christ dyed and that was the whole World all Men in general he tasted Death for every Man yet his Obedience and Sufferings in the Flesh had a good End and Effect be being through all both acceptable and prevailing with God for the good of Mankind we must needs partake of the Benefit and Effects thereof in our Souls so far as they have an Influence upon us by the Life and Power of Christ considering the Travel of his Soul through all his Sufferings which were inward as well as outward his Soul being made an Offering for Sin and his making Intercession ●…or the Transgressors was that Men might be influenced with a real Sence and Sorrow under their own Sin and be made sensible of Christ's Sufferings and Travil of Soul and know the Fellowship thereof and so be made conformable to his Death through the Operation of his Spirit and Life in them as that they may be raised up in the Likeness of Christ's Resurrection in Dominion and Triumph over Sin and Death and not plead Christ's Satisfaction and Righteousness only as in himself in their ●…ead to absolve or justifie the Guilty whom God will not clear nor acquit the Wicked Christ's Righteousness will not excuse any in Unrighteousness for he was a holy Example as well as a Sacrifice and Propitiation and he that saith he hath an Interest in Christ's Rightcousness or that he abideth in Christ ought to walk as he walked Now the Question is not Whether Christ was a most Satisfactory Sacrifice or well-pleasing to the Father for that is undeniable He was the Delight of the Father's Soul who gave himself for us an Offering and a Sacrifice to God for a sweet smelling Savour Ephes. 5. 1 2. But In what State and Condition are we acquitted pardoned and justified of God and in what Nature whether as fallen sinful guilty Persons in our selves and that meerly by the Sufferings of Christ in his own Person which were finite without respect to his Work in us Or as Converted Believers Sanctified Obedient new Creatures in Christ accepted and so justified in his own Righteousness as real Partakers thereof The latter is the Justification and Imputation which I plead for and not the former I would not have Men flatter themselves nor one another in Sin and Darkness with Christ having done all paid all satisfied God for all Sins past present and to come and that in their stead nor to think themselves thereby absolved acquitted and justified in their Sins and fallen Estate for such Doctrine hath stre●…gthned the Hands of many Evil-Doers and made many Hypocrites who are yet to undergoe a Sence of the Judgments and Terrors of the Lord and to know Repentance from deadWorks before they receive Forgiveness of Sins past or Jesus Christ as the Attonement or their Peace for he came in the Likeness of sinful Flesh that he might condemn Sin in the Flesh before Man be justified from it If the Question be What is it that gives us Interest in Christ's Righteousness Or upon which it is imputed or reckoned to us He answers Our Faith Rom. 10. 10. If the Question be What will evidence our Faith to be living and sound Faith He answers Our sincere Obedience to the Law Jam. 2. 24. You see then how that by Works a man is Justified and not by Faith only we are Justified by Works as Evidencing our Faith living by Faith as giving Interest in Christ's Righteousness by Christ's Righteousness as constituting ●…s Righteous c. p. 91. The Reader may see I take the better part of his Confession as well as the worse He hath truly confest here 1st That it is our living and sound Faith that gives us Interest in Christ's Righteousness and upon which it is imputed or reckoned to us 2dly That our sincere Obedience to the Law or Works of Faith doth evidence our Faith to be living and sound from whence it follows that none are Justified but who are in a living and sound Faith in Christ and sincere Obedience to his Law Therefore Justification was not effected or compleated without us by Christ's Sufferings or Death in his Person for he dyed for our Sins but rose again for our Justification which is effected even in bringing forth in us the Answer of a Good Conscience nor art thou either Justified or pronounced Righteous in the Sight of God whoever thou art who art a guilty Person a fallen Creature accused by Moses unsanctified unregenerate Impure see how manifestly the Man hath contradicted himself in these Passages one while in Justifying the guilty or
disobedient another while only those who have a living and sound Faith and are sincerely obedient who thereby are interested in Christ's Righteousness With this I agree but not with the other which declares the Guilty and Disobedient Just or Innocent p. 91. and what then must the Guilt be charged upon Christ who offered up himself a Lamb without Spot to God and was a sweet smelling Savour to him of whom all our Obedience ought to savour that by him we may Offer up living Sacrifices unto God Both we and our Actions must Savour of his Unction and not of Pollution Sin or Guilt if we be Justified or accepted in the Beloved Whereas he accuseth G. W. with teaching Justification by Faith in Christ and the Works that follow Faith without Christ's Righteousness Imputed p. 91. The End of his Charge is false without Christ's Righteousness imputed are his own Words and Forgery against me and not mine for I have both owned and confessed the Real and Scriptural Sense of Imputation in the 65th Page of Divin of Christ. first Part and several other Places therein The blessed Man's partaking of Christ's Righteousness through Faith and that Justification is in the Righteousness of Christ by Faith in him and that this true and living Faith and the Righteousness of it is reckoned or imputed to the true Believer yet we do not grant that Sinners or polluted Persons in that State are cloathed with this Righteousness or that it is imputed to them as theirs whilst they are out of it These were my Words which clear me from his Charge although he adds thereto that I say Faith in Christ and Works that follow without any mention of Christ's holy Life and Sufferings p. 92. which is false again and the contrary may be often seen in my said Book Divin of Christ. For 1st Living Faith in Christ cannot be without the Participation of Christ's holy Life Vertue and Effects of his Sufferings and Blood which sprinkleth the Conscience cleanseth from Sin c. 2dly We are by Faith in him spiritually influenced with a Sence of his Sufferings Travil of Soul and Fruit of his Intercession therein I bear in my Body the Dying of the Lord Jesus that the Life also of Jesus may be manifest in my mortal Flesh. 3dly In spiritually eating of his Flesh and drinking of his Blood we receive of his Life in us do come to live to God in his Love and Favour and so we partake of Christ AS the one Offering Sacrifice or Propitiation that makes holy in whom God comes near to us in Mercy and we to him in a holy Life and this is the one Offering by which he hath forever perfected them that are sanctified whereof the Holy Ghost beareth Witness unto us Heb. 10. 15. Object You have not from the Beginning of your Life to the End perfectly obeyed the Law what have you to say why you should not bear the Curse p. 92. Answ. This is an impertinent Objection and unsutable for him that does not believe perfect Obedience to Christ attainable in any Part of our Life either Beginning or latter End●… But God will not bring this Charge against them whose Sins are forgiven and blotted out to be remembred no more in the new Covenant who since they have received Remission and Justification of Life have the Answer and Testimony of a good Consciense to plead which gives Boldness in the Day of Judgment the Heart being sprinkled from an evil Conscience there is a drawing near to God in full Assurance of Faith if our Heart condemn us not then have we Considence towards God Howbeit Upon the Charge before as S. S. his chief Objection depends much of his Work and what he pleads to this as his only Defence is Christ's Holy Life and Sufferings Obedience to the Death c. not Sanctification nor Christ's Righteousness or Life inherent in us or the Answer of a Good Conscience c. And why so why thinks he cannot this acquit us or render us acceptable to God S. S. In justifying God doth judge us by the Law though by the Gospel also To be Righteous in a legal Sense is to be invested with a sinless Righteousness from the Beginning of Life to the End thereof this the Law requires it doth require Perfection not only in the End of our Lives but in the middle also and in the Beginning p. 92 93. But the Breach of this sayes he will be the Accusation or Charge that the Law or Justice will bring against us at the Day of Judgment p. 50. Rep. The Man runs upon a Mistake and thereupon makes his Apologies and Defence for there will be no Occasion for God to bring this Charge against his Elect or those whom he hath justified at the Day of Judgment for 1st Against a Righteous Man there is no Law neither doth the Gospel judge such as Transgressors all their Dayes as is vainly imagined And how should you be justified while you are judged both by Law and Gospel Doth not the Gospel acquit and clear such as in the Faith receive it from the Condemnation of the Law that being justified by Faith they may have Peace with God 2dly They who are pardoned of Sins past and justified by Christ from all those things from which they could not be justified by the Law of Moses are received into a Covenant of ●…ace Mercy Forgiveness Love Peace and Union with God for such is the new Covenant wherein God will remember their Iniquities no more 3dly They who are thus justified and received into Covenant with God have passed from Death to Life from Condemnation to J●…stification through the Law are become dead unto the Law that Christ might live in them and the Life they live is by the Faith of the Son of God which Faith purifies the Heart and the Mystery of it is held in a pure Conscience 4thly The Gospel is preached to them that are dead viz. in Sin That they might be judged as Men in the Flesh but justified after God in the Spirit And God's sending his Son in the Likeness of sinful Flesh was that Sin might be condemned in the Flesh that the Righteousness of the Law might be fulfilled in us who walk not after the Flesh but after the Spirit Rom. 8. Therefore Justice will not at the Day of Judgment charge us with Transgression and Imperfection from the beginning of Life to the End They that are come into Covenant with God who therein are in a Justified Condition have this to plead We have known and believed the Love that God hath to us God is Love and he that dwelleth in Love dwelleth in God and God in him Herein is our Love made Perfect that we may have Boldness in the Day of Judgment because as he is so are we in this World 1 Joh. 4. 16 17. And doth not this perfect Love and Conformity to his Image which gives this Boldness in the day of Judgment spring
or without but is the eternal Godhead pag. 99. Rep. However he hath sufficiently confessed that the Righteousness by which we are Justified must be put on but while he denies it either to be within or Essential he denies our Participation of the divine Nature which is essential to God himself or of Christ who is God's Righteousness who was delivered up for us all and with whom the Father will give us all things Is He then Incommunicable or not to be given whenas they that are Christ's have put on Christ Is not He the best Robe And is not He then within us And He that obeyed and suffered for us who wrought Righteousness Greater then the Act of Obedience Is not the Worker above and Greater then the Work But while this Opposer endeavours to exclude or shut Christ and his Righteousness or the Robe which the Saints put on all out of his Members and counts Christs Obedience unto Death without them this Robe and not a Robe within them because a Robe put on as he argues we are to understand that by Put on he must ●…ean Christ's Obedience without unto Death is imputed 〈◊〉 reckoned theirs when there is nothing of it in them either of the Nature Spirit Virtue or Effects of it unto the Crucifying of the Old Man or mortifying of Sin or else own that Men are not accounted Righteous nor Justified only by Christ's Dying or Obedience without them but through the Operation of his Spirit within them who dyed for our Sins but was raised for our Justification and then only they that dye and live with him are accounted Righteous and blessed with God being Partakers of the Heart-purifying Faith and not they that live to themselves without the Possession or Enjoyment of Christ's Nature and Life in them which is Divine and Increated But he tells us of a four fold Righteousness 1st The sincere Obedience of an upright man 2dly The perfect but loosable Righteousness of the first man in Innocency 3dly The perfect but confirmed Obedience of blessed Angels 4thly The perfect everlasting and Infinitely Pretious Obedience of the Lord Jesus Christ this last the best Robe the Righteousness of God himself p. 99. Rep. What is it we contend for but Man's being invested with the perfect and everlasting Righteousness of God himself his own Nature and Image And is not this in the renewed Man 1st Was not this in Man while in Innocency in the Image of God though he then not Immoveably Confirmed in it however accepted while he stood in it 2dly Doth not the fincere Obedience of an upright Man in Christ flow from his Inward Participation of the Divine Nature and Image in him and therefore accepted from the Excellency of that Divine Root and Seed from whence his Fruit Springs 3dly Are not the blessed Angels accepted in their Obedience to God which from a Sence of his divine power they are exercised in Still the everlasting Righteousness is but one and the Life and Excellency thereof is infinite both in Christ and in his Members who are of his Flesh and of his Bone as he that sanctifieth and they that are sanctified are all of one and Christ is the First and the Last and in all things must have the Preheminence 4thly The man mistakes if he suppose that we plead either the Righteousness of a Creature or man 's own Righteousness which he himself is inabled to perform as the Cause of Our Justification for Christ that strengthens us and enables us by his Power and Spirit dwelling in us to do the Fathers Will He is the Ground and Cause of our Justification and in him who is the Beloved are we accepted not meerly for our Works or Obedience but for his sake who worketh in us and enables us to do those things which are well-pleasing in his Sight That God bestows Righteousness on a returning P●…odigal as the best Robe is true but to exclude this Righteousness or best Robe that God bestows as not to be within but only without because to be put on is not true for if the Mind Heart or Soul within be not cloathed therewith how is it put on or how should good or acceptable Fruits be brought forth to God if not from an inward and Everlasting Righteousness And though Man doth not partake thereof from the beginning of Life Can this Man think that Christ's Death or Obedience without doth Justifie Men or make them be deem'd Righteous from the beginning of Life to the End howbeit when Men are converted and become the Righteousness of God in Christ and come to Live and Dye or end their Dayes in him they are accepted and blessed yea blessed are the Dead which dye in the Lord for their Works follow them Mark the Perfect Man and behold the Upright for the End of that man is Peace But all this Man's Imputation of a Righteousness and best Robe which he sayes is a Righteousness wrought without us there being none wrought within us so God c. p. 99. depends upon his Doctrine for Sin and Imperfection term of Life which he his Brethren have not only concluded must continue in the best of Men and their best Actions all their Dayes but Imperfection even in Christ's Work or Righteousness wrought in his People which therefore he disclaims from being concerned in our Justification but sayes we are Justified by that Righteousness which Christ wrought without us though he cannot deny but that Christ wrought the Righteousness of the Law without us and conformed to the Law in the Dayes of His Flesh which I suppose will not be deemed our Justification But if I ask By and to Whom was this Obedience Righteousness or Satisfaction made without us to be Imputed unto us as ours or men thereby Justified while Unjust Imperfect and Sinful without the Robe of Righteousness in themselves or rather accounted Just from the beginning of Life to the End whether all or some of these for whom Christ dyed he tells us not You may take this for his Answer viz. God in our Nature obeyed God and this is Righteousness of Infinite Value the very best Robe p. 99. Rep. 1. Is this the Compensation Payment and Satisfaction in our stead to vindictive Justice so much pleaded by our Opposers Were it good Doctrine to say either that God obeyed and satisfied his own Revenge by obeying himself as if he were divided and at Variance with himself or that he was revenged on himself considered as Christ in our Nature or Flesh I cannot own this Doctrine that such a rigid Payment and Satisfaction could be required in the Nature of the great Propitiation and Sacrifice for Sin but a Pacification or Attonement and a Condescension to Forgiveness of Sin past to be receiv'd on true Faith and Repentance 2. That Christ in the Flesh did by his divine Power perfectly obey the Father agendo patiendo i. e. by doing and suffering and therein was an acceptable and satisfactory
in himself by the same eternal Spirit by which the Saints were both Washed Cleansed Sanctified and Justified 1 Cor. 6. 11. Through the same eternal Spirit the same Power the same Righteousness the same Holiness the same Faith the same Love the same Patience c. that was in Christ do they partake of who truly follow him and walk in his steps having his Life manifest in them and received the Spirit of the Son which receives of his things and giveth unto them who walk after the Spirit not after the Flesh But Quest. What can we give to God for our Souls proportionable to so Great a Loss to so great Sufferings Sanctification and Holiness or a little Faith and the Works that follow This is likely to do Answ. A groundless Question in the first place no man can redeem his Brother nor give to God a Ransom for him for the Redemption of the Soul is pretious and so pretious as that which cannot be procured without a Price of Infinite Value Christ gave himself a Ransom for all 't is Christ himself that ransoms saves and redeems the Soul to God and that through Sanctification or washing of Regeneration and Christ is made unto us who believe in him both Righteousness Sanctification and Redemption however this man undervalues Sa●…ctification and a little Faith and though it be the Gift o●… God to us and not ours to him and the Saints Victory we have not given to God the Ransom nor the Price he Loved us first and therefore we Love and believe in him and in this was manifested the Love of God towards us because he sent his only begotten Son into the World that we might Live through him 1 Joh. 4. Again though the Phrase Merit of Christ's Blood and Sufferings be not a Scripture Phrase yet the Worth and Value thereof with respect to man's Salvation we never disesteemed since we knew the true and spiritual Application Virtue and Effects of his Blood c. through his Light and Spirit to the purging our Consciences cleansing and justifying which yet is an inward Experience not shut out nor put afar off by the true Church whom God hath purchased with his own Blood not redeemed with corruptible thing but with the pretious Blood of Christ which therefore is incorruptible Act. 20. 28. 1 Pet. 1. 17 18. cited by S. S. But then he egregiously mistakes in saying viz. Let us then with Paul abhor all Sanctification in us all Holiness all Works of Faith whatever is wrought by us in Comparison of what we spie by Faith in Christ. Answ. A very gross Mistake and Perversion an Abuse of Paul and of those Hearers to whom S. S. preaches such impious Doctrine It was not Sanctification or Holiness within nor yet the Works or Obedience of Faith that Paul either abhorred or rejected for the Excellency of the Knowledge of Christ or that he might win Christ but it was his former Confidence in the Flesh his own self-Righteousness which was of the Law and all those things that had been deemed as Gain to him that he counted Loss for Christ and for whom he suffered the Loss of all those things and counted them but as Dung that he might win Christ which he could not so account of all Sanctification or Holiness wrought by Christ within nor of the Works of Faith Can it be any less then Blasphemy as in this man's Sense thus to present and read Paul viz. I abhor all Sanctification within all Holiness and Works of Faith and I count them but all Loss for the Excellency of the Knowledge of Christ Jesus and have suffered the Loss of all my inward Holiness Sanctification and Works of Faith and do count them but Dung that I may win Christ c. How unlike Paul odious and gross were it thus to pervert his Words as to say Let us with Paul abhor all Sanctification in us c. neither doth Paul make any such Difference or Repugnancy between Christ's inward Work of Sanctification and the Excellency of his Knowledge nor between being in the Faith or Obedience thereof and being in Christ and his Righteousness but really desired that he might be found in Christ not having said he mine own Righteousness which is of the Law but that which is through the Faith of Christ the Righteousness which is of God by Faith Phil. 3. 9. so far was he from either putting the Righteousness of Faith afar off or abhorring Sanctification within that he desired to have it and be possessed with it as one found in Christ. For that only doth God justifie us which doth suffice to turn away his Wrath from us and satisfie his Justice for our Transgression but Christ's Sufferings only c. Answ. I deny his minor as it depends on the Word only for then why are not all Men in the World justified for whom Christ suffered and dyed which was for all Men he tasted Death for every Man for the Sins of the whole World And yet he that believeth not on the Son hath not Life but the Wrath of God abides upon him therefore without Faith Repentance and Conversion which are Effects of Christ's inherent Righteousness and Work the Wrath is not turned away nor are Men justified Obj. Let us then place no Confidence in Sanctification Holiness Faith and the Works that follow as if these laying aside Christ's Death on the Cross could turn away God's Wrath c. Rep. Herein he varies from his Argument before which was that Christ's Sufferings only can turn away Wrath justifie c. Note It is not Sanctification Holiness Faith c. only can do it without Christ's Death or laying it aside But while here he implies that Sanctification Holiness Faith c. with respect to Christ's Death can turn away Wrath he hath contradicted his own Argument before of Christ's Sufferings only which also cannot be slited nor his Death made void where true Faith Sanctification in him are enjoyed for therein Christ himself is enjoyed and we dare not preach nor own such Doctrine as to abhor all Sanctification in us nor the having no Confidence in Faith and Sanctification which are wrought in the Soul by Christ Jesus CHAP. IV. Of Satisfaction some serious Considerations farther opening the Doctrine and Sence of our Opposers Obj. GOd will not Justifie us without full Satisfaction to his Justice for our Sin Rep. And what Kind of Satisfaction is it he thinks this Justice requires We confess a Satisfaction or answering his Good Pleasure in and by Christ Jesus but about the Manner of it as supposed and stated we differ See how the man states it He concludes it must be a Punishing our Fall 1st From God's Judgment 2dly God's Truth 3dly God's Will and Purpose Quest. What is his Ground from these see his Answer viz. 1st God hath said in the Day thou eatest thereof thou shalt Dye 2dly Cursed is he that continues not
Time 2. The Appeasement of Wrath and Severity so far as to grant Remission on true Repentance 3. The End of the Law and first Covenant and the Shadows and Curse of it as threatned to impose the Terms of it 4. To introduce the new-Covena●…t Administration Christ being the Mediator of it 5. To shew God's great Condescension to receive poor lost Man again on the Terms of this new Covenant reinforced by the Death of his Son that Man coming into this new Covenant he might experience a real Agreement with God even in the Son of his Love Quest. 3. How far the Light in Man is necessary and answers the Intent and Ends of Christ's Sufferings Answ. It is absolutely necessary to Salvation being that divine Principle of Light within which directly guides all them that obey it into the Way and Dispensation of the new Covenant whereby they secretly experience the real Intent Virtue and Ends of Christ's Sufferings and Blood Quest. 4. Whether the Light of Christ within in each Degree of it be not the New-Covenant Light in Nature and Kind and the certain Guide into this Covenant Answ. It is being it was the Life that was in Christ as the eternal Word that was and is the Light of Men which Life or Light is therefore divine and spiritual as the New-Covenant Dispensation is Quest. 5. Whether the Word within the Law within the Commandment within the Kingdom of God within and the Light within be not one and the same thing and so the Life of the New Covenant Answ. They are The Names Degrees and Manifestations do not alter or vary the divine Nature or Life thereof Quest. 6. The Satisfaction what and in what did it consist Answ. 1. Not rigid Payment from Christ to God 2. Not of the Nature of Payment for all Sins past present and to come as stated by Sin-pleasers 3. Not Christ's undergoing infinite Wrath or Revenge from his Father for these were never exacted nor required of him But the Satisfaction was in Christ as the Son of the Father's Love the Delight of his Soul and as he was a Sacrifice of a sweet smelling Savour to him both the Father and the Son condescended in one and the same Infinite Love for Man's Recovery out of Sin and Death and for his Deliverance from Wrath to come being confessed to be equally kind to Man and equally angry at Man's Sin God so loved the World that he freely sent his only begotten Son c. And in the same Love the Son freely gave his Life yea even himself a Ransom for all for a Testimony in due Time Quest. 7. What is true Justification Answ. It is properly and strictly a making Man Just viz. through the Washing of Regeneration It is also not only God's pardoning Sins past for Christ's sake through Faith in his Name but also God's absolute accepting owning and blessing all them who faithfully obey persevere and walk in the Light and Law of the new Covenant Q. 8. What is the true or real Imputation of Righteousness Answ. It is the same with Justification as it relates to God's reckoning or esteeming that Man Righteous that partakes of the everlasting Righteousness of Christ by a living Faith in him and so the same Righteousness and Holiness of Christ as inwardly revealed and brought forth in the new Creature that is made conformable to his Image and so all the blessed Fruits and Effects of Christ's Power and inward Work of Righteousness as true Faith Love Obedience Sincerity Holiness Integrity of Spirit to God are acceptable to him accounted of and reckoned unto his People for Righteousness and all still for Christ's sake who is the Author and Finisher of true living saving justifying Faith as Abraham believed God and it was reckoned to him for Righteousness We say then that Abraham's Faith was so reckoned or imputed to him It has been by some confest as between God and the Creature That there can be no liking one another without Likeness of Disposition nor doth God receive Man into actual Friendship with himself without being renewed after his Image Quest. 9. Who are the Subjects of everlasting Wrath and Vengeance Answ. Wicked and Rebellious Persons who reject the Love of the Truth tendered to them such as tread under Foot crucifie or contemn the Son of God sleight the Blood of the Covenant and do Despite to the Spirit of Grace Quest. 10. Whether it consists with divine Justice or Truth in God to shew Mercy and to be an absolute Saviour after so much Injury done against him and his Commands by Adam's Fall and the actual Disobedience of his Posterity in the Fall Answ. Yes It is not inconsistent with divine Justice sor God to be the absolute Saviour of all that return to him and believe in him he being a just God and a Saviour besides or without whom there is no Saviour Absolute divine Justice in God doth not limit him nor withold Mercy from the Creature in the first Place nor doth it produce Severity or Revenge until his Goodness be rejected and wholy slighted for he saith plainly I am a just God and Saviour c. I even I for my own sake do pardon Transgression Quest. 11. Whether Divine Justice did properly and strictly require a full Payment and Punishment upon Christ in man's stead for all the Debt contracted and Injury done by fallen Man Answ. No Christ's Sufferings were not of that Nature or Intent but as it was by the Grace of God that he tasted Death for every Man They shewed God's Patience and proclaimed his Mercy in Order to pardon all that return to him from the Evil of their Wayes Quest. 12. Whether God as Rector and Judge could dispense with the Act of Law and not rather with the immediate Object Did he not substitute an Innocent Person to undergo the Punishment or Severity of the Law due to Sin and Sinners Rep. This is objected by some of our Opposers which m●…st needs imply a great Dispensation with and Digression from the very Intent of the Law If the severe Punishment of it be removed from the Unrighteous for whom it was made and who have incurred it and fully inflicted upon Jesus Christ the Righteous One that never Sinned Could God thus far dispense with the Intent of the Law and yet not forgive Sin without such a kind of Satisfaction and Payment supposed Oh sad Blasphemy and Inconsistency And seeing it hath been confessed by some of our Eminent Opposers that Satisfaction is not a Scripture-Phrase but a Notion of Law and made agendo patiendo viz. by Christ's Obedience in Doing and Subjection in Suffering the Penaltey which the Law should have inflicted upon Offenders I propose these three Questions to our Opposers Q. 1. Were it Reasonable or true to say the Creditor has forgiven both the Debt and Injury if it be all paid and fully punished in the Surety Q. 2. Were it Justice in the Creditor to detain the
Debtor in Prison if his Debts be all paid by the Surety or to suffe●… the Surety to wait long soliciting or interceeding for his Pardon or Deliverance Q. 3. Doth not your Doctrine of such Rigid or Severe Satisfaction oppose Christ's Intercession Howbeit we still confess the Man Christ was greatly acceptable and most eminently satisfactory considered as a Sacrifice of a sweet smelling Savour to God and as the first Fruits Quest. 13. What did the Blood of Christ that was shed bespeak and what is our Sense of Christ's Blood and for what End owned Ans. 1st It did bespeak Remission of Sin past to all that truly repent and believe in him 2dly Our Sense of the Blood of Christ is a living and spiritual Sense of the Virtue and Efficacy of it as through it we receive Redemption even the Forgiveness of Sins 3dly We really own and confess to the Blood of Christ both in the History and in the Mystery as most significant to express his Life which he gave a Ransom and the Value of the one Offering we do in the sight of God confess and own the Blood of Christ both as shed for us and as sprinkling and purging our Consciences from dead Works And this We are come to know by his Light shining in our Hearts which as we walk in the Light we have Fellowship one with another and the Blood of Jesus Christ cleanseth us from all Sin 1 Joh. 1. 7. Heb. 9. 14. To come to the Blood of Sprinkling which speaketh better things then that of Abel is an Attainment and Mystery only obtained by true Believers in and through his divine Light and Eternal Spirit by which Christ offered himself without Spot to God and by One Offering God hath perfected sorever them that are sanctified whereof the holy Ghost is a Witness to us Heb. 10. 14 15. For if a Literal Knowledge and Application of the Blood could either Sanctifie or Justifie without having the Conscience sprinkled with it then how could it be as the AntiType answering and ending the Type or Pattern under the Law where all the People were sprinkled with the Blood of the Offerings see Heb. 9. and 10. Chap. And the Leaper was cleansed by seven times sprinkling upon h●…m the Blood of the Bird that was killed Lev. 14. 6 7. but the Blood of Christ which sprinkles and purgeth the Conscience far excels all those under the Law and therefore as it redeems from the vain Conversation 't is called the Pretious Blood of Christ as opposed to and beyond all Corruptible things 1 P●…t 1. 18 19. Thus in the Blood of Christ there is a Mystery and a spiritual Consideration and Application absolutely necessary beyond the Historical Profession and Faith thereof as well as in the Cross c. as Christ said Except ye eat my Flesh and drink my Blood ye have no Life in you Joh. 6. It is the Spirit that quickneth c. The holy Ghost is Witness to us of the Virtue and blessed Effect of the One Offering Blessed be the Name of the Lord our God forever who by his divine Light hath opened our Understandings in the Mystery of Christ Jesus and the saving Knowledge of him which is after the Spirit All these Scriptures relating to Christ's Sufferings as Isaiah 53. Zach. 13. 17. Rom. 8. 32. Phil. 28. 2 Cor. 5. 14 15 21. Gal. 3. 13. and 4. 5. Heb. 2. 9. do all intimate God's great Kindness and Condescension in Christ Jesus and his Humiliation and deep Suffering under the Weight and Burthen o●… Sin and as by the Grace of God he tasted Death for every Man all which fall greatly short of proving our Adversary's ●…harge against him viz. That God poured down his Wrath or Revenge upon his Innocent Son for Satisfaction to divine Justice in Man's stead that had done the Injury I say all the Scriptures alleged by them can never prove this but rather 1. That Christ's Sufferings were of another kind both as he was delivered up by the Father in his Patience to suffer and bear the Burthen Sorrows and inward Griefs by reason of man's Sin for which his Soul also was made an Offering 2. And as the Reproaches Suffering and Death of the Cross that he sustained from the Wicked Murtherers were temporal or had an End and not as infinite Wrath and Revenge from God due to wicked Men. 3. Yet Christ was rendred a Curse and as made to be Sin This he could not properly be a in his own being for Sin and a Curse in this abstract Sense couldnot strictly relate to his pure and sinless being but so made or reputed with respect to his bearing the Reproach and Sin of many the outward Punishment Crucifying Death and Blood-sheding And all that was in him which in any sense might be said to Suffer was offered and given for the Advantage and Good of Mankind and that which he so gave and offered was called his Life Himself a Ransom and all some times in Scripture comprehended and expressed under the Phrase The Blood the pretious Blood of Christ that redeems from the vain Conversation purgeth the Conscience c. and even the outward part of his Suffering most Innocent Example his Cross Death Blood of his Cross his reviving again were so far from yielding either an Indulgence or justification to men as in Sin and Disobedience that they did very eminently preach and openly proclaim to Mankind both the Condemnation of Sin in the Flesh Repentance Mortification Remission and Man's reviving again to real Righteousness and Justification therein and all to be experienced through Faith in the Name and Power of Jesus Christ the Son of the living God in sending of whom the Father's Love was manifest that we might live through him And as Christ's Travil of Soul was inward and so his Suffering inward as well as outward what is more obvious to the spiritual Eye and Mind then that his Travil and Sufferings and his holy Design therein were to have an inward Effect and inwardly to be fulfilled by his Word and Power even in them who receive and believe in the same as that Instance of the holy Evangelist is very plain and pertinent where 't is said They brought unto him many that were possessed with Divels and he Cast out the Spirits with his Word and healed all that were Sick that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Isaiah the Prophet saying Himself took our Infirmities and bare our Sicknesses see Ma●… 8. 17. Isaiah 53. 4. And moreover as to Christ's being the Lamb of God that taketh away the Sins of the World This taking away the Sins was not only fulfilled by that general Expiation or purging which he made by Way of Sacrifice but also inwardly by his real Cleansing purging the Conscie●…ce and purifying the Soul from the Nature and Being of Sin And God's Reconciling us by the Death of his Son whose putting away Sin is said to be by the Sacrifice of
of Condemnation both to Angels and Men to be their Sin in forsaking the Lord and living Ungodly But whereas S. S. renders God's fore-knowledge of all his Works as the Reason or Proof That he from eternity decreed particular Angels and Men for Destruction which appears Contradictory to his Masters of the Assemblies confessing viz. That God hath not decreed any thing because he foresaw it as future Confess Chap. 3 This Proof is as impertinent as the rest of his shallow Arguments for his fore-Knowledge being infinite it is no Proof that he hath absolutely decreed or ordained all things that come to pass because he foresaw all for he hath not ordained that Men should live in Sin though he hath designed their Punishment who do so live yet known unto the Lord are all his Work 's both those of his Creation which he wrought according to his absolute Pleasure both in Heaven and in Earth and in the Sea c. Psal. 135. 6. and Man was not capable of resisting his Maker in forming of him he was as the Clay in his Hand as also the Lord foreknew his work of Sanctification and saving of man from Sin and Death but this is not effected without a Subjection to his Will and a Compliance with his Spirit and Power in his Work within They are not Partakers of Salvation from Sin who wilfully gain-say the Truth resist the holy Ghost and act Despite against the Spirit of Grace But further I find S. S. so uncertain in the Management of his partial Proposition for a personal Election and Reprobation that he is made sometimes to grant and confess to Truth to his own absolute Confutation and the Break neck of his graceless Cause As by his Confessing That God hath no Pleasure in the Death of him that dieth considered barely as his Creature for he is willing to receive to Mercy every returning Sinner yet if a Person perseveres in Wickedness as such God will laugh at his Calamity c. Thus far S. S. From whence it follows 1st That God did not from Eternity decree the Damnation of particular Persons contrary to his declared Pleasure 2dly That persevering in Wickedness is the Cause of Men's Calamity 3dly A●…d their Perversness and Obstinacy in rejecting Wisdom's Reproof and Counsel the Cause that God will laugh at their Calamity and mock when their Fear cometh Now the Doctrine of Election and Reprobation as universally sect 11 and equally laid down in the Scriptures of Truth and as accordingly by us asserted for that there can be no Repugnancy either in God's Actions or in his Will whether secret or revealed as some vainly imagin cannot be inconsistent with God's Prohibitions Eat not of the Tree of Knowledge His conditional Promises If thou dost well shalt thou not be accepted If you Seek the Lord he will be found of you Whosoever believeth shall not perish shall not abide in Darkness His conditional Threats If thy Heart turn away thou shalt Perish If ye for sake him he will for sake you His sending his Son into the World not to Condemn the World He should have added Christ's Dying for all Men tasting death for every Man his giving his Spirit to instruct them His Setting Life and Death before them in the Promises and in the Threats or giving Men up to their Lusts for Sin This cannot be inconsistent with God's Election or Choice of true Believers and Obedient nor with his rejecting the Rebellious unto Reprobation for they evince the Truth thereof But the Presbyters partial Doctrine of Election and Reprobation of particular Persons and certain definite number of Men and Angels and their most grosly Asserting that God from all Eternity did freely and unchangeably ordain whatsoever comes to pass This is both inconsistent with those and such his Prohibitions conditional Promises and Threats His sending his Son not to condemn the World but that the World through him might be saved his dying for all Men his giving his good Spirit to the Disobedient to instruct them his setting Life and Death before them to chuse Life or perish Deut. 30. 15. to the end but Alas if from Eternity God had reprobated them or absolutely ordained and designed their Damnation and Curse how should they Chuse Life or Blessing Or if particularly unchangeably ordained to Life and Salvation from all Eternity Could there be any such Danger of their perishing or that they should thus need to be threatned with Cursing and Perishing if their Heart turned away from the Lord For had they been unchangeably designed of God for the one End whether Life or Death were it not very inconsistent to propose both conditionally to them as namely to exhort them to chuse Life or if they refused to threaten them with perishing c. do not you partial-minded Presbyters and Calvinists by such kind of Preaching and Propositions so contrary to your partial Principle most grosly dissemble with People and mock them contrary to your own Belief whenas Moses the Prophets and Apostles in such like Conditional Promises and Threats believed what they spoak they believed and therefore spoak from the Spirit of God which cannot lie nor dissemble If you say God hath decreed particular Persons Salvation by such Warnings you thereby tell us that he hath decreed it by Threatning them with Damnation and thereby you affix your non-sense incongruous Doctrine upon God rather then you will confess your own nonsensical Contradiction therein which runs thus That God hath from all Eternity unchangeably designed some Persons eternal Salvation and yet that he warns and threatens the same Persons with eternal Damnation or Perdition if they refuse Life or to ●…earken to him and obey him or if their Hearts turn away from him pray mark how inconsistent and contradictory this is like as to say It is unchangeably designed of God that you must live for ever yet take heed you do not dye eternally And to S. S. his adding All these are subservient to the Soveraign Design of God's Decrees The Magnifying his Mercy and Grace in the Salvation of all the Elect his Justice or Wrath in the Reprobates c. pag. 115. Ans. If by the Words All these as we may take him he intends according to the Assembly's Confession That God from all Eternity did most freely and unchangeably ordain whatsoever comes to pass then it may be understood that all these things those Conditions or States both Good and Bad which he mentions before are subservient to the soveraign Design of God's Decrees as he words it But if by all these he intends all these conditional Promises and Threats are so subservient as I think he doth then God's Decrees of Men Salvation or Damnation are also conditional accordingly as first If you seek the Lord he will be found of you and then as all are called to seek the Lord he hath also given Liberty and a Capacity to all to seek him that they may
Command which requireth us to be perfect he saith God commands to offer Isaac he purposeth Isaac shall not be offer'd this shews he doth not efficaciously will every thing he commands p. 64. Rep. First This Instance is not pertinent in this Case it being a peculiar Command and Act to Abraham and not common to the Saints nor relative to those Commands injoyning Holiness of Li●…e which they are all concerned in 2dly He is mistaken in saying He purposeth Isaac shall not be offered for the Scripture saith That by Faith Abraham when he was tryed offered up Isaac and he that had received the Promises offered up his only begotten Son Hebr. 11. 17. It is evident that neither God's Command nor Purpose was to kill Isaac but that Abraham's Faith should be tryed in offering him up which by Faith he did in which he said God would provide himself a Lamb for a Burnt Offering Gen. 22. 8. And he accounting that God was able to raise him up even from the Dead from whence also he received him in a Figure Hebr. 〈◊〉 19. But this is no Proof that it is not his Pleasure his Commands requiring perfect Love Obedience s●…ould be kept and they that enter into the Covenant of Grace enter into an Agreement with God in Christ which though it remits Sins past yet gives no Liberty to continue in Sin neither is it any Condition of this Covenant that the Being of Sin should remain to keep the Saints humble for by this Covenant God taketh away Sin not only by Remission but by Receiving the Soul into Agreement with himself Jesus Christ is our Surety Mediator and Advocate both in his being a Propitiation or Sacrifice for the Sins of the whole World that upon the Act of Faith in his Blood and believing in his Name Sins past may be remitted as also in his inabling us to obey the Conditions and Obligation of the Covenant of Grace or Law thereof which we are under and in fulfilling the Promises thereof to us for without him we can do nothing we can obtain ●…o P●…iviledge but in him in whom the Promises of Cod are all Yea and Amen And seeing God receiveth true Believers in Christ into Agreement with himself Christ being their Surety doth not exempt them from the Payment of what is their due Obedience but inables them thereto for to be in Covenant or Agreement with God is neither consistent with disagreeing with him by Transgression or sinning against him When or where Sin shall be removed after Death he resolves not He tells us not How long a time shall be between Death and the perfect Removal of Sin for a Purgatory he seemeth not in words to own how nearly related soever his Doctrine be to it in his saying It sufficeth me to be assured from God's Word it Sin is not done away in this Life it shall in the next But where and what that God's Word is that so assureth him That Sin is not done away in this Life but in the next he hath not yet demonstrated nor proved nor doth he clear himself of the Pope's Doctrine of a Purgatory but confesseth That no unclean thing shall enter the Kingdom of Heaven since Christ is to present us holy unblamable and unreprovable in his Sight a glorious Church not having Spot or Wrinkle p. 64. Mark here how he hath manifestly contradicted his pleading for the Being of Sin in the Saints and saying It is not done away in this Life and yet the Church must be holy unbl●…mable and unreprovable in his Sight not having Spot or Wrinkle but then he addeth further as a part of what Christ hath merited touching this Point and in pag. 67. He hath perfected forever them that are sanctified meritoriously To which I say Hath Christ merited or purchased the Church's Beauty and Perfection even perfect Sanctification and yet is it his Father's good Pleasure that the Church shall not receive such Perfection here Or that the Being of Sin shall not be remov'd in this Life Were it not Blasphemy to suppose That Christ hath bought for man that which his Father will not allow him But I must suppose his Sence of Christ's Merit Dignity Righteousness and Obedience as not to be really partaken of and inherited by true Believers in this Life but only in their Sence of Imputation which can be neither real nor true to reckon themselves Holy Unblamable Unreprovable without Spot or Wrinkle while yet spotted with Sin and inherent Corruptions though still I grant that every Degree of Real Righteousness true Faith and Sincerity to God springing up from his own Life in his Children is owned and accounted of in his Sight for the Lord is well-pleased for his own Righteousness sake Isa. 42. 21. and the Fruits of his own Spirit are acceptable to him from the highest Growth and Maturity to the least Appearance breathing and breaking forth thereof in the Soul yea from Israel's Tryumphing and Glorying in the Lord to Niniveh's believing God and repenting and God commands us nothing but what he inableth us to perform although against this S. S. objects that he commands from the Beginning of Life to the End of Life to continue in all things written in the Law to do them but where this is commanded us in Scripture he shews us not We are satisfied that God layeth no more upon man as to doing or performing then he inableth man for his Commands are gradually and orderly imposed to be obeyed according to the Ability that he giveth the Creature he doth not command a Child to do a Man's Work he is no hard Master So in the Covenant of Grace there is a Growth from one Degree of Strength to another 〈◊〉 Faith to Faith from Little Children to Young Men c. and so according to their Growth and Capacity God requires Obedience and doth not impose Impossibilities o●… them And if so be that the Power and Glory of God be more manifest in the Second Covenant or in the New Covenant of Grace then in the First Covenant by how much the greater man's Priviledge is in this by so much the more he is inabled by the same Power cheerfully to live in Obedience and Faithfulness under it Therefore S. S. his being assured That Sin is not done away in this Life and his Con●…ession That a Believer dyes unto Sin by degrees and so AT his Death the whole of Christ's Merit is immediately applyed whereby Sin is forever totally abolished These are not consistent neither doth he write as a man of Experience of the Work of God what Assurance foever he pretends sor to say That his Sin is not done away in this Life or that it sh●…ll in the next and yet to say It is totally abolished AT his Death These are as Contradictory as to say That S●…n is done away At Death and yet it is not done away till After Death which is saith he to the last Trump will Sin be in the Saints
p. 64. and when that shall be he explains p. 85. at his Coming in the End of the World quoting 1 Thes. 4. 17. Mark Reader here how plainly he contradicteth his Saying That At Death Sin is forever totally abolished Now it is in the End of the World when Christ cometh Personally as he supposeth to Judgment So by this confused Work one while Sin is Not done away in this Life another while it Is done away At Death another while it Is done away After Death another while it is Not done away Till the last Trump or End of the World whereas there are many Believers and Saints deceased in the mean time and many long since dissolved as to their outward Man what becomes of their Souls between the Time of their Departure and the End of the World for he hath confessed that No Unclean Thing shall enter the Kingdom of God So then if the Saints deceased be not throughly cleansed from Sin before nor Sin to be done away till the E●…d of the World what other Place besides Heaven ca●… he provide or think of for the Saints deceased How can he avoid the Pope's imagined Purgatory unless he hold the Mortality of the Soul that it dyes or sleeps in the Dust with the Body To his alledging That the Ministry is to continue to the last Trump and to the last Trump will Sin be in the Saints but then in a Moment will the Saints be changed and perfected If he intends that the Saints have their Benefit and part in the Ministry each in their Life time and several Ages how doth this clear his concluding that to the End of the World or last Trump Sin will be in the Saints that then in a Moment they shall be changed for many of the Saints are deceased many Hundreds of Years since which if Sin be in them still they do not particularly partake of the blessed End of Christ's Ministry and Gifts which were for the Perfecting of the Saints till all come into the Unity of the Faith and of the Knowledge of the Son of God unto a Perfect Man c. and yet those deceased Saints are not now under the Ministry of Apostles c. From Ephes. 4. 13. he saith That perfect Man is Christ with all his Members for he consists of many and he is thus to be a perfect Man in the other World not this pag. 46. Whereas the Benefit of God's Gifts did as well extend to the particular Saints and Members of his Body as to the whole Body to wit till we all come in the Unity of the Faith c. That we henceforth be no more Children tossed to and fro c. Ephes. 4. 14. There is no Danger of their being tossed in the other World with Windy Doctrines Both their Perfection and Establishment and Growing up in Christ in all things being Effects of his Gifts and Ministry which were experienced and obtained in this Life S. S. The Ministry and Scriptures were perfecting the Saints as long as they live Deut. 17. 19. The King shall read therein all the Dayes of his Life that he may Learn to fear therein the Lord his God If he is to Learn to fear God all the Dayes of his Life c. pag. 65. Answ. Are the Saints then but a Learning to fear the Lord God all the Dayes of their Life or Doth that King in the time of the Old Covenant represent the best State of the Saints in the New the King that was forbidden to multiply Wives Horses Silver or Gold to himself Are the best of Saints in the New Covenant in Danger of these things and therefore to be restrained by an outward Law that their Hearts turn not away from the Lord whereas he hath promised I will put my Fear in their Hearts and they shall not depart from me and this is a Condition of his Everlasting Covenant That there is a time of Perfecting Believers or Saints before they are Perfected I confess as while God was Creating the World it was not Created but I differ with him in his counting it God's good Pleasure that Sin should remain in the Saints and that to keep them Humble either till Death till after Death or to the End of the World and it were more absurd to say That Sin will remain even in the Saints deceased till the End of the World to keep them Humble It is true as he saith That whilst a Carpenter is building an House the House is not builded pag. 65. but then if the Carpenter undertakes to build a House and bargains for a Price to build it and then doth not build it or tells a Man whose Money he hath got It is true I took your Money to perfect this Building but I can get but little of it builded you must not expect to have it builded while you live Would not the Man reply then Give me my Money again But Carpenters do not use to cheat men thus They that are Honest do not use to serve People as you pretended Ministers do who say You are sent for Perfecting the Saints and for this take Money and Gifts and Rewards and yet tell them Perfection is NOT attainable in this Life Honest Carpenters would not deal thus with them In Psalm 119. 1 2 3 4. Blessed are the Undefiled in the Way he saith In Point of Justification Believers are in Christ their Head clear as the Moon fair as the Sun In Point of Sanctification through the Renewing and Assisting Grace they do not allow themselves in any known Sin but in God's Fear oppose all pag. 65. He hath said enough to break the Neck of his own Cause 1st Unless to be In Christ Spotless Clear as the Moon and Fair as the Sun be a Spotted or Sinful State 2dly Unless that there must remain some Sins in those that are in Christ which cannot be known to them whereas he that abideth in Christ sinneth not And He hath left us an Example that we should follow his Steps who did not sin And the Word Justifie sometimes useth to signifie to make Just by inherent Holyness or to Sanctifie as he confesseth pag. 89. Upon Titus 3. 5. 7. But if to evade this he renders Justification in their sense of Im●…utation then it is to reckon them Spotless Clear as the Moon Fair as the Sun who are yet Spotted Corrupted and Defiled with Sin But if in the Fear of the Lord true Believers through Renewing and Assisting Grace do not allow themselves in any known Sin but in God's Fear oppose all then if a Discovery of all Sin by the Light be attainable to them not only to Oppose but to Overcome all Sin through assisting Grace is attainable in this Life for Resist the Devil and he will flye And we can do all things through Christ that strengthneth us knowing our Faith in him which is the Victory and also obtaineth actual Dominion over Sin Whereas Psal. 119. 3. They also do no Iniquity
nor the Being of Sin forthwith excluded p. 68. yet by Degrees it comes fully to be effected and Sin put an End to as there is a waiting in Patience and Diligence upon him who hath begun a good Work who will also perfect it That the Righteousness of the Law might be fulfilled in us on this he thus paraphraseth Fulfill signifies sincerely to obey the Law 1 Chron. 22. 13. that is sincerely to obey every Precept so far as we attain to understand it Thus far he contradicts his pleading for the Being of Sin and Corruptions in the Saints and his denying perfect Obedience to be attainable in this Life yet I assert that Man in his own Will Strength cannot attain sincerely to obey the Law of God but through the Power and Aid of Christ Jesus he may attain to the Righteousness or Substance of the Law to be fulfilled in him being led by the Spirit of Life for the Law thereof in Christ makes free from the Law of Sin and Death But when this Opposer adds Thus in the other World God's People shall attain to fulfil the Righteousness of the Law p. 69. Herein he perverts Scripture and puts Christ's Work afar off who is the End of the Law for Righteousness not to indulge Men in Sin to them that believe and he came to condemn Sin in the Flesh that the Righteousness of the Law might be fulfilled in us who walk not after the Flesh but after the Spirit which State the Apostle did not put off to the other World And if the Gospel or Law of the Spirit of Life free us from the Law of Sin and Death and Christ was sent to condemn Sin in the 〈◊〉 which Words he turns thus viz. Condemned our Sin in him I say First Why should we be subject to the Law of Sin a●…d Death or 〈◊〉 believe a Freedom from the Being of Sin when its Power Law and Rule is taken away These are inconsistent Must Men needs subject themselves to that which is brought under by the Power of Christ and Law of Life in him His saying He condemned our Sin in him will not excuse him from being condemned with Sin if he doth not come to find Sin condemned and destroyed in himself and Man's Disobedience to the Law of God within will not be excused by what Christ hath done and suffered without neither will your Application cause you to be lookt on as if from the Beginning of Life to the End to have obeyed the Law as Creatures to have satisfied it as Sinners p. 69. Surely God doth not so look upon you while you continue in Sin and his Spirit striving with you and reproving of you for Sin and Corruption God and his Spirit do not so oppose on another and yet he is Gratious and Merciful ready to pardon and forgive Sins past upon true Repentance and that for Christ's sake who is the Propitiation c. but the Notion of Satisfaction as it is taken in the severe Sense of strict Payment in Law by undergoing the full Punishment It is not consistent with the Gratiousness of God in forgiving Sins past on unfeigned Repentance but sufficient is said to that Point He is offended that we should say to him and his Brethren You plead for Sin he calls this an opprobrious and gross Slander but hath not cleared himself thereof but verified it as appears in this Discourse of his And his saying Who do more call Men off from sinning then we If he had added Who tell People that to come off or be free from Sin is not attainable in this Life and that it is God's good Pleasure not to destroy the Being of Sin in this Life and that he sees good Corruptions should remain in his Saints to keep them humble Then the World might easily have judged how heartily they call Men off from Sin or rather how they impiously plead for Sin as necessary He sayes Their Light without the Scriptures will help to call men off from Lying Injustice Uncleanness c. They should then obey it for then it necessarily calls unto Truth Justice Purity c. and consequently to Heaven Depart from ●…vil and do Good and dwell for evermore We urge Men to the Observance of the Christian Sabbath p. 69. And what is that Christian Sabbath And how do you urge men to Observe it Was not the Jews Sabbath a Type of the Christians Sabbath or Rest And do they not cease from their own Works and Thoughts being not to think their own Thoughts on this Sabbath or holy Day We press to repent of the very Being of an evil Thought in us But do you press it in the Faith Do you believe that the Being of evil Thoughts can be remov'd in this Life else what signifies your pressing to repent thereof Your Denouncing against men's Allowing themselves in Sin Wickedness Your saying It is the Duty of all to be Perfect to Press after it to watch against all even the least Sins p. 70. What avails all this when you press and preach thus in your Unbelief You unsay what you here pretend when you tell people It is God's Good Pleasure that the Being of Sin and Corruption should remain in his Saints to keep them humble What Incouragement do you here give People to press after Perfection and to watch against all Sin when you tell them A Sinless Perfection is not attainable But he brings an Instance for their Encouragement as he thinks viz. If two Companies of Children were to run a Race and one should say to this Company There are strong Men at the End of the Race if you run as strong and as fast as they can run you are to enjoy a rich Inheritance but if not you are to dy By the way observe he very egregiously doth mistate the Case and Doctrine of those called Quakers for they do not propose Heaven and Salvation upon these Terms as for Children to run as fast as Men but that Children may become Men and in the mean time act according to their Abilities beyond which God doth not impose upon them nor require of them but that the Race that is set before us may be run with Patience which ought to have her perfect Work that we may be perfect and intire wanting nothing It is certain that they who have begun in the Spirit and spiritual Journey who are diligent using their best Endeavours and hold out shall enjoy an Everlasting Inheritance And this is not to cut off their Endeavours by Despair as falsly is supposed against the Quakers upon the said Mistating of their Case but your Preaching tends to Despair when you press People after Purity and Perfection and then tell them It is Not attainable in this Life He further adds against us There must be no Sin at all in you and then you shall obtain Salvation 〈◊〉 I must be quite free from all Sin here or burn in Hell to all Eternity pag.
within is not the Rule above the Scriptures as is implyed in his 57th page when I confess it to be that that gives the true Understanding of them and to be wise according to what is written And not to pretend the Scriptures for Proof of what they prove not As for Instance When I am called to answer an Unscriptural Question by such as profess Scripture to be their Rule I think it most meet to answer them in the Scripture-Language which while they are not satisfied with they inquire but to Cavil and for Advantage as my Opposer and some others of his Abettors did As for a more particular Instance when they query about the Resurrection of the Body as desiring I would inform them what Body that is that shall arise again which being the same with that which the Apostle reproves for 1 Cor. 15. 35. it deserves the same Reproof for Answer vers 36 37. Again Though I really confess the Universal Resurrection of the Body of Mankind or of the whole Adam which implieth First A general Fall and Death and that they shall come forth some to the Resurrection of Life and others to the Resurrection of Damnation yet for the very Phrase namely The Resurrection of the Body of Flesh c. I find not in Scripture But the Resurrection of the D●…ad the raising and arising of the Dead c. 2dly Upon my Answer in the Apostle's very words 1 Cor. 15. 35. the feigned Christian saith This Answer Whitehead said is sufficient for such busie intruding Fools p. 57. By which he hath contradicted what he saith before Whitehead answered in p. 54. But then he adds The Apostle calls Fools not they that believed but they that deny the Resurrection of the Body Persons of the same Perswasion with the Quakers in this Point p. 57. That the Corinthians did positively deny the Resurrection he hath not proved But that some questioned like him How and with what Body are the ●…ead raised c. whose Folly the Apostle reproved And this is not Quakers Perswasion thus to question much less to deny the Resurrection in the true Sense and real Mystery of it For so to question With what Body are the Dead raised is not a Question necessary to Salvation nor essential to the being of a Christian who knows a part in Christ who is the Resurrection and the Life Now come we to examine T. H's Meaning upon the Text 1 Cor. 15. 37 38. wherein he proceeds thus Concerning this Mortal viz. That the Body given it is the same for Substance the same that was sown c. only called a Body given to it because it is so changed from its Accidents of Corruption and Mortality Thus far T. H. What reasonable man can make Sense of this piece of Oratory as to say that the Body given to it is the same for Substance Like as if he had said This same mortal Body is the same It which is given it or it is the same It that is sown that is given it self or the same Body for Substance is given to the mortal Body What rare Rhetorick is this And so his Brother Kiffin saith That the Seed that 's sown is the same Body of Flesh c. which shall arise though otherwise qualified If so what is that Body that God giveth to it as it pleaseth him For if it be lookt upon in the Nature of a Seed it must be supposed that it is another Body that 's given unto it as is to every Seed sown according to its kind For it is plain Non-sence to say That that which is sown is the same Body that is given to it Besides that which is not quickened except it dyes which may be spoken of every kind of Seed that hath Life in it first doth not dye be●…ore it is sown but after 't is sown as Christ saith Except a Grain of Wheat fall into the Ground and dye it abideth alone but if it dye it bringeth forth much Fruit Now the Fruit or Ear brought forth is the proper Body given to it which is not the very same which wa●… sown in the Earth But I pray how holds this dying aftersown with these men's fleshly Opinion of the carnal Body in the Grave being the Seed for that being Dead before doth not dye after 't is buried neither do these men intend to be buried alive And seeing every Seed hath its own proper Body what Body can be proper to the Terrestrial Bodies which if every one of them must be lookt upon as the Seed to have each a proper Body given what a plurality of Bodies must there be besides what are And will it not amount to this That every man shall not only have these very Terrestrial Bodies but each a Body besides and so every man two Bodies and those of the same Substance that these are now to wit Terrestrial or Carnal He cites Phil. 3. 21. thus He shall change our vile Bodies Herein he mis-cites and perverts the Phrase For 't is not Bodies in the plural but Body in the singular And 't is to be read thus from the Greek He shall change the Body of our Lowness that it may be fashioned or trans-figured like unto his Glorious Body But doth not this evidently make against him considering that Christ's Glorious Body is not a Carnal Terrestrial or Earthly Body but a Spiritual Transcendent Glorious Body And the changing of our Low Body in fashion to be like his implieth not the same Terrestial or Carnal Bodies or to be of this Fashion and Substance as now they are For Celestial Spiritual and Glorious Bodies are much different from Terrestrial Carnal and Mean Corruptible Bodies Again T. H. addeth from Phil 3. 21. This cannot be meant of a new created Body because such a Body cannot be said to be either vile or changed If then this IT be not the Body which dyed but another how can that be called a Resurrection for that supposeth the same If another then it is more properly a Creation of a new Body then the Resurrection of the Body p. 58. Repl. Mark here 1. He is for a Resurrection of the very same T●…rrestrial Bodies of all men but no new Creation for that opposeth his Thoughts of the Resurrection 2. What a strange Inconsistency is it that the self-same Earthly or Carnal Bodies of all should arise again after they are turned to Dust without any new Creation and yet rise compleat the same they were sor Substance What Sense or Congruity can be made of this Many Thousands being dissolved and turned to as real Dust of the Earth as man was at first formed of how should Living and Compleat Bodies be raised out of that Dust without Creating anew first But if it cannot be a new created Body it is not the same Natural Carnal or Terrestrial Body for Substance after dissolved It is not this very same corruptible Flesh Blood and Bones that is given to every Seed
as it pleaseth God or that shall inherit God's Kingdom Howbeit As to be Quickened implieth a Death first and Resurrection a Fall before and to be Changed that there was either a vile corruptible Suffering or low Estate before So all that come to know Christ in them and the Body dead because of Sin know the Spirit to be Life because of Righteousness And if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the Dead dwell in you he that raised up Jesus from the Dead shall also quicken your mortal Bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you Rom. 8. 10 11 12 13. And this plainly is a quickening unto Righteousness by the Spirit dwelling within which is far from being a Proof of T. H's Opinion though cited by him And as in the first Adam is both the Fall and Death come over all men so in the second Adam who is the Resurrection and the Life all are made alive and that unto Righteousness who first come to see the Body dead because of Sin and the Deeds of the Body mortified Rom. 8. 13. or who come to know Christ and the Power of his Resurrection and the Fellowship of his Sufferings being made conformable unto his Death these attain unto the Resurrection of the Dead Phil. 3. 10 11. Such do not strive for a Notion thereof but to attain to it As to the manner of Existences or Beings of all men in the World to come there is no Necessity for any to be taking thought or busying their Minds about them it being in the Pleasure and Wisdom of God to reserve all to their due and deserved Ends in an immortal Capacity Our present Concernment is so to know and esteem of Christ as that we may be found in him not only mortified to the Corruptions of this World through the Fellowship of his Suffering and Conformity unto his Death But also interessed in that blessed Resurrection which is only attained to in Christ who is the Resurrection and the Life that he may be magnified in our Body whether by Life or Death To what he saith in his 59. pag. about the B●…dy that was dead about that It which is raised about the So●…l and the Seed of God the Matter is answered else where yet First All that know the Body dead because of Sin having mortified the Deeds of the Flesh and being conformable to the Death of Christ as dead with him shall alfo be quickned and raised up by his Spirit that dwells in them which is Life because of Righteousness and such only can speak experimentally of the Seed of God and the Soul 2dly That there is a Seed of God and a Seed of the Serpent in Mankind according to G. F. Junior's relation he further tells you that they that discern the Body of each Seed are not the Fools which are questioning how the dead should be raised and with what Body for they know that all Mankind will be found in one of these two Seeds By which it is plain he doth not exclude men from a future Being or Immortality nor confound them with the very Being of God though it is by his invisible Power that all are upheld in their respective Existences in Immortality whether they be found in the Nature and Image of the good Seed or of the evil T. H. And since he calls them Fools that is the Apostles and all true Christians that say This Body of Flesh and Bones shall arise pag. 59. Rep. He should have produced his plain Scripture for the Apostles so saying where are these Words to be found in all the Scriptures of the new Testament that this Body of Flesh and Bones shall arise again Doth not the Apostle say the contrary Thou sowest not that Body that shall be And Flesh and Blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God But must we then suppose as some Professors do That these Bodies of Flesh and Bones shall inherit the Kingdom of God without any Blood in them Or that after they are returned to Dust they shall arise again the self same as they are without any new Creation I confess this is such kind of new Philosophy as I have not read of before The man has run himself into such strange Confusion and wholy misses the Sense of the Resurrection and the Life and over looks the true Seed and Root of the Matter while in his vain mind he is imagining muddling and Devil-like disputing about the Body which in Comparison of the immortal Existence and being of Man is but an outside Case earthly Shell or Husk that disolveth Again he saith If this Seed of the Serpent be only Sin and the Seed of Christ only Grace it is only Sin and Grace which shall arise again p. 60. Oh the gross Darkness and Ignorance of this Man He knows not the Seed of the Serpent from whence Sin springs nor the Seed of God from whence Grace and Life flows But falsly supposes that our Principle extinguishes the future distinct beings of Men though it hath been plainly told him that all Mankind will be found in one of these two Seeds As also we testifie from that Sence of Life and Immortality that is brought to Light in us through the Gospel That the Soul whole spiritual Man and spiritual Body shall exist in Immortality yea though our outward Man perish yet the inward Man is renewed day by day and in order to possess an eternal Weight of Glory 2 Cor. 4. This inward Man is neither extinguish'd by the perishing of the outward Man nor thereby deprived of that Advantage which is an eternal Weight of Glory And that God giveth it a Body as it pleaseth him and to every Seed his own Body or his proper Body The Man would know what this It is shewing his Dubiousness of his own Assertion before viz. That it is a mortal Body of Flesh and Bones whether it shall be raised and go to Heaven with any Blood in it he tells us not and that the Body given it is the same for Substance that is as good Sense as to say the Body of Flesh and Bones shall when it is raised have the same Body of Flesh and Bones given to it whereas it is to every Seed his proper Body which is comprehensive both of the Seed of the Righteous and the Seed of the Wicked of the Seed of God and the Seed of the Serpent and so comprehends and takes in the whole Body of Mankind under those two Relations and Natures not to dissolve or extinguish their Rational Intelligible Beings with the perishing and dissolvable Earthly Outside or Case but that all shall be reserved for their due and proper Ends according to the Seed Nature and Image which their Soul carries with it when it parts with the Earthly Cloathing And whereas it is said that It is sown a Natural Body it is raised a Spiritual Body the great Stress is laid on the particle IT which may as well be applyed to Wheat or
him may clear and quit your selves of his inveterate Spirit and gross Abuses against us who bear Love and Good-will towards you and all men believing that there are some among you that are more tender and honest and of a better Spirit then T. H. for whose sakes I have writ thus much and not for his for he hath shewn himself Dirty and Wicked who hath made no Conscience to forge and spread many notorious Lyes and Slanders against us And therefore however takenotice of this that it will not be reputable for you to allow or own him as a Teacher among you nor for you to sit under him who hath no Power either over his Tongue or Passion unless he Repent and as publickly Revoak Judge and Condemn his gross Errors Abuses Lyes Slanders and Forgeries as he hath broached and spread them and if you suffer him to go on a Preacher among you without a publick Reproof from you and his open Recantation it will lye upon you as Upholders of a persecuting Spirit and rende●… you as uncharitable and unchristian Professors of Christia●…ity for suffering such a notorious piece of Wickedness as this of T. Hicks's to proceed from among you unreproved But I really desire the Lord may open your Eyes so as you may clear your selves and that Envy and Prejudice may cease and dye among you that you may not dye and perish in it A Serious Reflection Upon some of Will Burnet's Chief Arguments about the Resurrection of the SAME FLESH In his Book stiled The Capital Principles of the People called Quakers W. B. IF Jesus Christ did rise again with that Body that went Arg. I. to the Crave then there is a Resurrection from the Grave of the same Body c. But Christ did leave the Grave empty c. Ergo. Arg. II. If Jesus Christ rose from the Dead with Flesh and Bones yea with the same Flesh as was nailed to the Cross Joh. 20. 27. then there is a Resurrection from the Grave of the same Flesh that goeth to the Grave But Christ did rise in the same Ergo. Answ. This Man's Work savours of Flesh and not Spirit The Consequence of both his Propositions is inconsistent and so his Argument is fallacious for Christ's Flesh saw no Corruption being raised the third Day it did not corrupt in the Sepulchre much less turn to Dust or Earth as others do therefore the Instance and Comparison is unequal in this case though it holds for a more Spiritual End and Advantage then this drives at for which the Apostle did instance the Resurrection of Christ by the Glory or Power of the Father that men might believe in that Power He did not say that Christ's Flesh was raised up the third day that you might believe that the same Flesh as gross part of yours that goeth to the Grave and turns to Dust shall be so Raised as this Man argues for Christ's Resurrection was preached that their Faith might be in God who raised him up that Men might in this Life receive and feel the Spiritual Benefit thereof to their Immortal Souls and so partake in this Life of the Power of his Resurrection to be raised up with Christ in order to reign with him in Glory hereafter●… as for ●…nstance Know ye not that so many of us as w●…re baptize●… 〈◊〉 ●…esus Christ were baptized into his D●…ath therefore we 〈◊〉 with him by Baptism into Death that like as Christ was raised up 〈◊〉 Dead by the Glory of the Father even so we also should 〈◊〉 in 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 of Life Rom. 6. 3 4 5 6 7 8. to the end And 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 him by Baptism wherein also you are risen with him throu●…h 〈◊〉 F●…ith of the Operation of God who hath raised him from the 〈◊〉 Col. 〈◊〉 12 13. As also to the same Purpose and End read Rom. 8. 11. a●…d 10. 9. Eph. 2. 1. 1 Pet. 3. 18 19 21. 1 Cor. 15. 45. Phil. 3. 10 11. 1 Cor. 6. 14. 2 Cor. 4. 14. Joh. 6. ●…9 40 Col. 2. 20. and 3. 3 4. Eph. 1. 20. and 2. 6. Col. 2. 12. 1 Pet. 1. 3. 21. Heb. 11. 35. 1 Thes. 5. 10 11. By all which it is evident that Christ Death and Resurrection was not preached for a 〈◊〉 E●…d but for a spiritual Benefit here and an eternal Advantage hereafter But whereas our Opposer carnally infers from Christ's arising a Resurrection of the same Flesh that goeth to th●… Grave His Shortness in this and the Shallowness o●… his fleshly Apprehension comes under this further Consideration As First That all Flesh and Earthly Bodies of Men do not go to the Grave in hi●… Sense It is said Th●… 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 of thy Servants have they given to be Meat 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Fow's of Heaven the Flesh of thy Saints unto the 〈◊〉 of the 〈◊〉 Their Blood have they shed like Water round about Jeru●…alem and there was none to bury them Psal. 79. 2 3. There●…ore these were not laid in Graves of the Earth As also it is apparent that the Flesh of many is wasted away with Sickness before they dye or their Bones be lai●… in the Grave And likewise many undergo such great Sick●…esses and Calamities in their Life time as so o●…ten doth both corrupt and waste their Flesh and Blood that so often as they are restored to Health again they have new Fleth or rene●…ed Bodies thereof and then what a vast Bigness would 〈◊〉 Bodies amount to if raised with all the self 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 that they had in their Life time Moreover through 〈◊〉 Judgment and sore Exercise David said My ●…ones ●…leave to my Skin Psal. 102. 5. And my K●…ees are weak through 〈◊〉 and my Flesh faileth of Fatness Psal. 109. 24. And as 〈◊〉 signified when man is chastened with Pain upon his Bed and the multitude of his Bones with strong Pain so that his Life 〈◊〉 Bread his Flesh is consumed away that it cannot beseen and his Bones that were not seen stick out His Soul draweth near unto the Grave c. Job 33. 19 20 21 22. Through such Judgement and Chastisement they who have known the polluted Flesh consumed away are not so much concerned for the same Flesh as these our fleshly Opposers are whereby they shew they never experienced such Chastisements nor underwent such Judgment that God might hide Pride from them and keep back their Soul from the Pit Their proud Flesh would alwayes live and be reserved to eternal Glory Whereas he whose Flesh is consumed away through the Chastisements of the Lord and who comes to see that God is gracious therein unto him to deliver him from going down to the Pit who saith I have found a Ransom It is said of such a one His Flesh shall be fresher then a Child's he shall return to the Dayes of his Youth Job 33. This is not the old Flesh that was consumed away through Chastisements And as all Flesh is not the same Flesh so all Bodies are not of
leave to receive the reward of thy work at the hand of God who is just will not let the guilty go unpunished Whereas thou T. H. seemest offended at us for saying Christ is within in whom as such we have living Faith as opposed to their Faith who know not him within but expect to be saved as believing in a Person without them as thy Phrase is p. 44. It appears this is the manner of thy Expectation and Belief expecting to be saved by Jesus as a Person without thee though thou hast no real Knowledge of him as such But it is to be minded how plainly before thou hast contradicted thy Faith as thus declared where in thy 24th page upon 2 Corinth 5. 16. thou dost thus paraphrase viz. Though I Paul when a Jew and in my unconverted State only knew Christ after a fleshly manner to be a King of the Jews and to deliver only from outward Bondage and Captivity yet henceforth from the time of my Conversion I know him so no more for now I know him according to that design of infinite Grace and Love which he came to carry on in the World in being a Saviour of Sinners from Sin Death and Hell which before I knew not Thus far thou Mark here thy Contradiction is plain one while believing in and expecting to be saved by him as a Person without another while from the Time of my Conversion I know him no more after a fleshly manner for now my Knowledge of him in being a Saviour from Sin c. is not after a fleshly manner but according to the design of infinite Grace and Love From whence it follows that he is not now known to be the absolute Saviour from Sin as a Person without or as considered after a fleshly manner but after a spiritual though he was truely a Saviour in the Dayes of his Flesh by the Power of the Father by which the Saving Work alwayes was and is inwardly effected And indeed his going away or dis-appearing after the Flesh was that his Appearance and Knowledge after the Spirit might be the more revealed and the Disciples might the more know and rely upon the Comforter even Christ's Spiritual Appearance within Sect. XIX The End of Christ's Coming Example and Suffering more truely owned by the Quaker then the Dipper AGain thy implying by Way of Question as if we owned that the Word did take Flesh and that the Flesh was crucified for no other End and Purpose then meerly to be an Example p. 47. is very false against us for our owning Christ in the Flesh to be a living Example does not argue that he took Flesh and was crucified for no other End and Purpose then meerly to be an Example for he came into the World both to bear witness to the Truth to shew Light to do the Works the Father sent him to do to war against the Power of Darkness and Wickedness to exalt the Divinity the Power of the Father and to glorifie him upon Earth to pass through and fulfil the first Covenant and end the Shadows thereof and to set up the new and the living Way that the second Covenant or Testament might be established and confirmed that the Living Ministry thereof might have its free Course being inforced above and beyond all the former Types Shadows and Vails under the first Covenant And so in offering himself up freely both to do his Fathers Will and to suffer for Man-kind he gave himself a Ransom for all to be testified of in due time As also he was an eminent Example and Pattern of Innocence and Piety through all which they that slite his Example have no Benefit in his Sacrifice nor are concerned in the Ends thereof otherwise then to their own Condemnation for Christ's Innocency and Righteousness even in the Dayes of his Flesh as openly manifest do both judge and condemn all the Hypocritical Professors of Christianity who refuse following his Example while they are applying the Ends of his Coming and Suffering Sect. XX. The Baptist's Ignorance and Cavil about Redemption and the Spiritual Discoveries of Christ and his Seed WHereas thou makest a peice of thy Dialogue p. 47. run thus viz. Qua. He viz. Christ comes to work Redemption Christi I query for whom or what did he work this Redemption Qua. There is a Seed to which the Promise of Redemption is which only wants Redemption Thus Nayler in his Book Love to the Lost. Answ. Thou perverts his Words for they are not That this Seed only wants Redemption but wherein only it s seen and received viz. that in the promised Seed Redemption is only seen and received by Man or the Creature as he fully after explains Chr. Nayler saith that Christ is the Election and the Elect Seed and Fox in his great Mystery the Seed hath been laden c. which Seed is the Hope Christ. Answ. If God was so prest as a Cart with Sheaves and his Spirit grieved by mens Sins is it otherwise with his Seed in them And it thou wert not willfully blind and hardened thou wouldst not raise such a Consequence from the Words before perverted by thee while the Scripture mentions the Seed under a two-sold Consideration 1st As to Christ to whom the Promises originally are as being Heir of all 2ly As to the Children of Promise the Children of the Kingdom the true Believers who are truely Israel and of Abraham's Seed according to the Faith Now know that Christ the promi ed Seed hath entred into Sufferings and Travel of Soul to bring forth his Seed as it s written He shall see his Seed he shall see of the Travel of his Soul and shall be satisfied So he came not to redeem or save himself as absurdly thou infers but to bring forth and redeem a Seed which shall serve him and be counted for a Generation And the Life of Christ as manifest in mortal Flesh hath pertaken of the Afflictions of the Upright in all Ages and the Spirit of God is grieved the just Principle oppressed and offended with mens Iniquities and Transgressions So Christ considered as a Seed and in that low Estate is capable of being formed in man both of being raised up in man by the Power of the Father of growing up as a tender Plant and as a Root out of dry Ground and so of receiving Power and Help from him as indeed every Seed that 's sown and every Plant that takes Root is capable of receiving Vertue and Nourishment according to its kind or else it cannot be quickned to Life grow or bring forth Fruit And such a Growth of the immortal Seed was both in Christ and in his People which must be owned if the Seed of the Kingdom within and the Spiritual Birth or forming of Christ within or he as a Seed or Plant of Renown be known and owned or a Suffering Crucifying Dying and Living with Christ be witnessed by man For Christ's Suffering Cross Death Resurrection
Life and Dominion are spiritual known in the true Believer who is of that Seed which Christ took upon him yea his spiritual begetting spiritual forming in man and spiritual birth is known within and all for the Redemption and Salvation of man to God or else he falls short o●… L●…e and Glory and he that brings up the Soul out of the horrible Pit first descends thither And though it s not true to say he only comes to redeem raise up or save himself yet it may be truely said he doth arise to scatter his Enemies and to bring man out of the Pit and in conquering his Enemies his own 〈◊〉 brings Salvation to him Isa. 63. 5 9. And thus saith the Lord in an acceptable time have I heard thee and in a day of Salvation have I helped thee and I will preserve thee and give thee for a Covenant of the People to establish the Earth that thou mayst say to the Prisoners go forth and to them that sit in Darkness shew your selves Isa. 49. 8 9. which Promise is of a general Extent So mark here He that redeemeth the Prisoner and calleth forth them that are in Darkness he hath his help of God that sent him we are not to conclude that he helps not others because he is helped himself And Christ's Sufferings both inward and outward for they were two-sold were for man's Benefit as is testified in the said Book Love to the Lost accused by thee The Creature is blessed of God for the Seeds Sake and Redemption from the vain Conversation as Christ gave himself for us that he might redeem us from all Iniquity c. So if thou wert thus redeemed thou needst not enquire for the Subject of Redemption nor accuse others for owning the Seed of God both in an oppressed State and as raised up by the Eternal Power and Glory of the Father for wor thy is the Lamb that was slain from the Foundation of the World to receive Power and Wisdom and Glory and Might c. However T. H. slites our Testimony of the Seed of God within as in several States and so the spiritual Resurrection of Christ in man his Brother H. G. confesseth thereto in his Book p. 54. where he saith Praises and Halelujahs to God for ever who hath given us that Witness in our selves of which thou speakest that we can experience the Power of Christ's Spiit risen in us for our Sanctification and Renovation as well as Christ was raised from the Dead c. Thus far H. G. Is it not here evident that he hath confest to Christ's arising in man for man's Restoration What thinkst T. H. of this Is this Canting or Gibberish as his Words are against us p. 47. Moreover as the elect Seed is spoken of in the Scripture both with respect to Christ the Anointed and with respect to his Seed and Heritage so also the Seed is Christ not only as in himself a●…ointed with the Oyle of Gladness above his Fellows but also as in Union and Conjunction with his Church or Members As the Body is one and hath many Members so also is Christ and so Christ and the Body comprehensively is one he is the Anointed and we are anointed in him and he that hath anointed us is God By all which it is understood that we are Partakers of the Life Redemption and Priviledge that is in Christ as we are in him and grow up in him so that all our Opposers Cavils which render our Principle as only including Christ and God in the Redemption and not man do fall to the Ground as Groundless and Frivilous As for his groundless Cavills in his p. 48. The little Understanding he hath either of the Measure of God's Gift his Seed within or of Redemption by Christ the Elect Seed is very intelligible from the Tenour of his impertinent and contradictory Discourse throughout his Pamphlet By all which we see the Nature of his pretended Christianity and how Un-christian he is in his appar●…nt Oppositions against the divine Light and Seed within Sect. XXI The Baptist's Imperfect Work against Perfection COncerning Persection which we say is attainable in this Life he attempteth to confute us though very feebly here as will appear T. H. I perceive you are forced as much as any others to borrow from the Scriptures without which you can no more prove any thing either concerning Christ or Perfection then a meer Indian p. 49. Answ. Touching which it appears while thou grantst something for Perfection we proved from Scriptures how consistent with this thy after Work is against Perfection will ●…rther be manifest But while thou concludes that we can prove no more of Perfection then a meer Indian without the Scriptures How agrees this with thy former confessing that Man was alwayes under an Obligation that God's Soveraignity over him and his Inferiority unto God might be acknowledged Now if this be truely to be acknowledged by Man or Mankind in general why are Indians excluded And if God's Soveraignity over man and man's Subjection thereto be known doth not this extend to Perfection If either the Rule be perfect that thus obligeth man or if in God's Rule Power or Soveraignity as over man be Perfection which we affirm is able to evince it self where true Fear and Subjection to God is lived in or Sincerity and Uprightness towards him retained Though to such as thou art who opposes Sin-less Perfection as attainable in this Life there is a need especially of producing Scriptures to prove it while you pretend a Belief of them for the perfect Light or Gift of God within you do not believe in Yet thou hast granted to Perfection as sincere and upright p. 50. and is not this Perfection of Sincerity and Uprightness without Sin Were it good Doctrine to say that Persection as it respects the Sincerity and Uprightness of Saints is sinful But that a perfect Freedom from all Sin in this Life is attainable we intend is by the all-sufficient Power of Christ and no true Christian doth dissent from us herein Nor doth this cause either Pride or Presumption as thou falsly insinuates but the contrary Sin-pleasing Doctrine that 's for Imperfection and Sin while in this Life And while thou confessest a holy Fear Humility Watchfulness and Industrious Endeavours to persevere in a Holy Course to the End p. 50. Either thou dost hereby grant Perfection or a perfect Freedom from all Sin attainable in this Life or else thou excitest People to be industrious and endeavour for that which thou believest is not attainable which is as much faithless Inconsistency as to say use your industrious Endeavours to persevere in a holy Course that is sinless to the End but it is not attainable Were not this a sad and Heartless Way of Preaching to put People upon Impossibilities Again upon Phil. 3. 15. as many as are perfect be thus minded Thou sayst By Perfection no more can be understood in this Text then