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A90237 Mans mortalitie: or, A treatise wherein 'tis proved, both theologically and philosophically, that whole man (as a rationall creature) is a compound wholly mortall, contrary to that common distinction of soule and body: and that the present going of the soule into heaven or hell is a meer fiction: and that at the resurrection is the beginning of our immortality, and then actual condemnation, and salvation, and not before. : With all doubts and objections answered, and resolved, both by scripture and reason; discovering the multitude of blasphemies, and absurdities that arise from the fancie of the soule. : Also divers other mysteries, as, of heaven, hell, Christs humane residence, the extent of the resurrection, the new creation, &c. opened, and presented to the tryall of better judgments. / By R.O. Overton, Richard, fl. 1646.; Writer, Clement, fl. 1627-1658. 1644 (1644) Wing O629E; ESTC R11330 42,502 47

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to morrow we die And so k 59. Abs so many bellyes so many Gods and no other It is objected That the rarenesse of conception argues a supernaturall immediate assistance essentiall without which the soul cannot be Answ That commeth by a naturall defect and not by the withholding of Gods immediate hand else he should have a speciall and immediate hand in Adultery And so Whoremongers and Adulterers sets God a work to create Souls for k 61. Abs their Bastards which is to make God a slave to their lusts Further it is objected That God hath from eternity decreed concerning man above all creatures both who should come into the world and at what time Therefore accordingly he must have a work in mans conception above other creatures Answ No such thing followeth for time and number may be appoynted and yet the due course of nature proceed as well without as with an immediate assistance towards man in his kind as in Beasts in their kind Moreover Woolner in his Treatise on the Soul pag. 115. saith That the more spirituall parts and chiefly the Soul is but partly mediately partly immediately conceived at the first instant or union of the seed of both Sexes For by it pag. 127. he saith the corporeall parts are prepared and perfected Therefore it must of necessity be at the first instant or else no conception And pag. 129. That all Soules as well of Beasts as of men are essentially as perfect at the first instant of conception as ever afterwards And pag. 97. he saith The Soul can live without the body and cannot be corrupted by it Answ That then it followeth If a woman miscarry immediately after that very instant l 35. Abs that the Soul of that Effluction or unshapen deformed peece of congealed blood being immortal must needs continue its immortality and that Effluction as well as perfect bodies shall be raised againe for if degrees of corporall perfection hinder then those that are borne imperfect as without legs arms or hands or any other member as divers are they m 63 Abs shall never be raised againe and so out of the compasse of Christs death and though it should be granted that Christs death is denyed an Embrio yet that soules immortality cannot be nullified for immortality once begun must never have an end and he saith it cannot suffer with the flesh therefore if not with the whole masse of mans corpulency growne to its full perfection much lesse with an Embrio that is ten times lesse imperfect and invalid for he saith it is as perfect at the first instant as ever afterwards therefore it must be saved or damned if there be any for others but no man knowes how or Absurd which way except it can be proved Christ dyed for bare soules soules without bodies which will puzzle the cunningest soule that ever was made in the marring and mard in the making Further it is objected Creatures propagated out of kind as by buggery as Apes Satyres c. are supposed are not endowed with reasonable soules Ergo soules are created immediately or however of necessity Gods superficient power is joyned to the propagation thereof Answ As I will not altogether confidently affirme they have rationall soules so will I not altogether deny it For in Man it is some organicall deficiency more or lesse that is the cause that some men are lesse rationall then others for some have abundance of wisdome and some are meere fooles and in children whose Organs are not come to perfection there is not so much as there is in an Ape This premised why in some measure as far as by those improper Organs can be expressed may they not be rationall though not in the same degree as is capable of God as well as Infants who are as uncapable pro tempore as Apes But perchance it will be replyed that then Christ dyed for Apes as well as for Infants I Answer Christ dyed not for the rationall part separated from the materiall nor the materiall from the rationall if there should be such buggery births or if by that unnaturall course they should meet in one which is impossible for the blessing of procreating any thing in its kind is to the kind for that neither but for the naturall production by the conjunction of both Sexes legitimate from Adam and not such unnaturall by-blowes As for births out of kind they come within the compasse of the Curse and cannot any wayes claim priviledge in the Restoration but must expect with Thornes Bryars and all manner of Vermin and Filth which breedeth on corruption to be done away when mortality is swallowed up of life For all other Creatures as well as Man shall be raised and delivered from death at the Resurrection my Reasons and grounds for it be these First that otherwise the The Resurrection of Beasts c. curse in Adam would extend further then the blessing in Christ contrary to the Scriptures For as in Adam all dye even so in Christ shall all be made alive 1 Cor. 15. 22. For the wages of sinne is death but the gift of God is eternall life through Iesus Christ our Lord Rom. 23. Therefore Death comming upon all the Creatures by the sinne of Adam no death being before sinne life shall come upon all by Christ Secondly the beasts were not given Man to eate in the Innocencie but to all flesh wherein was the breath of life was given the greene herbe for meat Therefore the death of the beasts c. was part of the Curse and so to be done away by Christ Thirdly if the other Creatures doe not rise againe then Christ shall not conquer Death but when it is said O Death where is thy sting O grave where is thy victory it will be answered in Beasts because they are still captivated under its bondage But as by one man death entered into the world Ro. 5. 12. and by man came death by man shal come resurrection from death and the last Enemy that shall be destroyed is death and death shall be swallowed up in victory 1 Cor. 15. 21. 54. Therefore death shall not retaine them but they must be delivered out of its Jawes Fourthly those ensuing Scriptures doe clearly prove it Col. 1. 15. to the 23. All things were created by him and for him whether they be things in Earth or things in Heaven and be not removed away from the hope of the Gospel which ye have heard and which was preached to every creature under heaven And Mar. 16. 15. Go ye into all the world preach the Gospel to every creature that is Glad tydings life and Resurrection from the bondage of corruption to every Creature by Christ therefore is he said to be the First borne of every Creature the First that 's borne or raised from the Dead so that those whereof he is the First must follow that is every creature else could he not be the First borne
from the Dead of them all And Rev. 21. 5. after the dissolution of all things he saith Behold I make all things New And Psa 104. David reckoning up Men Cattel c. saith thou takest away their breath and they dye thou sendest forth thy spirit and renewest the face of the earth and Psal 102. speaking of the Heavens saith as a vesture shalt thou change them and they shall be changed and Isa saith in the New earth the Wolf and the Lamb shall feed together and the Lion shall eat straw like a Bullock and Paul saith Rom. 8. 19. 20. 21. The expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God for the creature was made subject to vanity not willingly but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope because the Creature it selfe also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God for we know that the whole Creation groaneth and traveleth in paine till now Therefore the Gospel or Glad Tydings is unto all all are under hope and all things men beasts c. shall be made new or restored at the Resurrection and so Death shall be swallowed up in victory and mortallity of life or Death having given up her dead shall be cast into the Lake Rev. 20. 13. 15. Thus much by the by Now to our matter in hand But be it granted that those births are not endowed with reasonable soules yet doth it not follow that God createth immediately the soule or immediately assisteth nature in its production more then the body for this is an instance out of kind therefore cannot expect the blessing of the kind but be as it selfe is unnaturall and cursed for to the kind is required Sexes of the kind and thereto God hath given the blessing to beget its kind as well for man to beget perfect man as for the beasts to beget perfect beasts so that whatsoever is borne of man naturally is man though one be ennobled with more excellencies then another A borne Foole would have been a better instance for if to them rationall Soules were denyed it might be thought Nature naturally begetteth meere irrationall brutish inhumane bodies and rationality or humanity is a meer supernaturall work To prevent such a cavill I Answer that by the Soularies ground there can be no n 64. Abs borne fooles Infants new borne yea an Embrio should be as actually rationall as men of ripenesse of yeares for they say the soul is rationality it self and that rationality is no more of the body then inke is from the pen and the soul is absolutely perfect at the first instant yea it is forma formans therefore naturam expellas furca licet usque recurres it is made action which cannot but appeare for all action is apparant and they say it is an immortall spirit therefore cannot cease and if not cease it must shew it self Now why are not Infants then as rationall as others nay let me ask one Question If this endlesse soul be forma formans the maker of our bodys why have we not o 65. Abs endlesse bodyes for omne tale generat tale every like brings forth its like so then if one be immortall the other must be immortall Secondly I Answer that though some are fooles from their birth yet it doth not follow that Gods immediate hand is required to mans procreation but rather the contrary for imperfections in a thing argue the mediate generation thereof because no imperfection of any kind can come immediately from the hand of God imperfections are accidentall or from the curse therefore not of creation but of procreation Now seeing all this while we have had to do with this immortall Soul we cannot find or the Soularies tell what it is such likewise is its residence for if we ask where it it they flap us i' th mouth with a Ridle tota in toto tota in qualibet parte the whole in the whole and the whole in every part that is the whole immortall Soul in the whole body and the whole Soul wholy in every part of the body To which I Absurd Answer that this extends immortality or impossibility of death to the body for if immortality be in every part then no part of man from the crown of the head to the sole of the foot can be excepted so we are all p 66 A●… Soul all over and every part a whole Soul immortall So that it must either be held to q 67 A●… be ubiquitory which is an Attribute peculiar to God or else multiplicable by a corpulent division and so were a man minced into Atomes cut into innumerable bits there would be so many innumerable r 68 A●… whole Souls else could it not be wholy in every part s 69 Ab●… Monstrum horrendum ingens cui quot sunt corpore crines Tot vigiles Animae supter mirabile dictu And thus the Ridle is unfolded CHAP. VII Testimonies of Scripture to prove that whole man is generated and propagated by Nature THat this is true secundum actum naturae observe the sence of those ensewing Scrip●ures viz. Gen. 1. 17. 18. compared with the 22. ver where man and beast have an equall blessing and charge to propagate their like Eccl. 3. 19. There is no distinction betwixt them c. Gen. 17. 7. I will be thy God and the God of thy seed after thee Here by seed must be meant persons and not bare carcasses else he had been the God of dead clots and not of living soules Gen. 46. 26. All the souls that came with Iacob into Egypt which came out of his loynes c. Job 31. 15. Did not he that made me in the wombe make him and did not one fashion us in the wombe Ergo if his soul were immediately created so was his body for he that is his Entite person even all that went to make him man was formed and shapen in the womb both Epithites for procreation and not for creation Iob. 20. 10. 11. 22. Hast thou not poured me out as milke and curdled me like cheese thou hast clothed me with skin and flesh and hast fenced me with bones and sinnues thou hast granted me life and favour and thy visitation hath preserved my spirit Here Iob sets forth exactly the manner of mans procreation from the act of generation even to his breathing First poured out as milke that is the seminary evacuation of both Sexes in conjunction then curdled me like cheese that is the changing of that to a grosser matter congealed blood then clothed me with flesh and skin that is the incarnation of that condensed blood then fenced me with bones and sinnues that is that carnate matter was formed into humane shape and grew into members then grantedst me life that is began to breath whence observe that in ascribing the whole work to God he doth ascribe it to one kind only and
not partly mediate partly immediate for he ascribeth even the evacuation of seed in carnall copulation and the conception of flesh and bones in as high a measure yea to take away all cavil rather a greater as he doth his life poured clothed and fenced imply a more absolute act then granting which is but a sufferance permission or assenting therefore his conception was meerly and wholy naturall according to that of David Psal 51. 5. Behold I was shapen in iniquity and in sin did my mother conceive me And to this adde that of Zach. 12. 1. The Lord formeth the spirit of man within him Whence it is clear that whole man flesh and spirit is a second act formed in the wombe otherwise flesh as well as spirit must be created which all deny Gen. 5. 3. Adam begat a son in his own likenesse Psal 139. 15. 16. My substance was not hid from thee when I was made in a secret place and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the Earth thine eyes did see my masse yet being imperfect and in thy book all my members were written which in continuance were fashioned when as yet was none of them whence is evident that his whole Person was an act of nature in his mothers wombe or secret place what of him was in the Book of Gods providence he declareth was made not created in a secret place to wit his substance or Masse all that went to the subject man and I hope the Soularies will not blot his Soul out of the Book of Gods providence or say it was no part of him Luke 1. 31. Thou shalt conceive in thy wombe and bring forth a son whence observe that what she was to bring forth she was to conceive to wit a son and none will deny Christ was borne compleat man in all things as we are sin excepted And if any scruple arise from Rom. 1. 3. He was made of the seed of David according to the flesh I Answer That it is a distinction of his manhood from his godhead as all Interpreters agree Gen. 4. 1. She conceived and bare Cain see the like cap. 38. 3. 4. 5. Judg. 13. 3. 5. 7. And Job 3. 3. There is a man child conceived And Gen. 17. 6. And Kings shall come out of thee ver 17. twelve Princes shall he beget And Judg. 8. 30. Gideon had 70. Sons out of his body begotten And Num. 5. Then she shall be free and shall conceive seed and Heb. 11. 11. compared with Gen. 17. 8. and such like plainly shew mans procreation wholy naturall Ioh. 3. 6. That which is borne of the flesh is flesh and that which is borne of the spirit is spirit Here is the naturall birth by nature and the spirituall birth by grace declared each in his kind the one a meer naturall the other a supernaturall work It is therefore inavoydablely true otherwise the Soul cannot be saved for what is not borne again cannot be saved as the immediate words testifie except a man be borne again he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God So then the soul as well as the body is born that is proceeds from the flesh except we be born without it Wherefore they are no more twaine but one flesh Thus having found Mans Foundation to be wholy in the Dust from thence taken and thither to returne Let this then be the use of all That man hath not wherewith at all to boast no more then of dirt under his feet but is provoked wholy out of himself to cast himself wholy on Iesus Christ with whom in God our lives are hid that when he who is our life shall appeare he might also with him appeare in glory to whom be the honour of our immortality for ever and for ever Amen FINIS