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A17591 An aunsvvere to the Treatise of the crosse wherin ye shal see by the plaine and vndoubted word of God, the vanities of men disproued: by the true and godly fathers of the Church, the dreames and dotages of other controlled: and by lavvfull counsels, conspiracies ouerthrowen. Reade and regarde. Calfhill, James, 1530?-1570. 1565 (1565) STC 4368; ESTC S107406 291,777 414

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adore and vvorship it These are youre wordes yours I may call them for they be furthest of frō Athanasius meaning And in the margēt the place is quoted Quaest 39. ad Anti. Here be thrée lyes together Fyrst by suppressing a piece of Athanasius saying of the speare réede sponge that they are holy as the Crosse Where the author hath that they are as holy as the Crosse Thē remēber thys as Also by corrupting of the texte putting in the wordes of Adore vvorship whiche are not in the boke Last of all referring vs to the .xxxix. question wheras there are not so many in all In dede Quaestione 16. Quest 16. ad Antio these are hys words Quare credentes omnes ad crucis imaginem cruces facimus lanceae vero sanctae aut arundinis aut spongiae figuras nullas conficimus cum tamen haec tam sint sancta quam ipsa crux Responsio Figuram quidem Crucis ex duobus lignis compingentes conficimus vt si quis infidelium id in nobis reprehendat quod veneremur lignum possimus duobus inter se disiunctis lignis crucis dirempta forma ea tanquam inutilia ligna reputare infideli persuadere quod non colamus lignū sed quid Crucis typum veneremur in lancea vero aut spongia vel arundine nec facere hoc nec ostendere possimus which in englishe are these Why do all beleuers make Crosses after the Image of the Crosse but make no figures or likenesses of the speare the réede or the sponge where as notwithstanding these are as holy as the Crosse it selfe The aunswere We make in déede the figure of the Crosse by putting of two stickes together that if any of the infidels reproue that in vs that we worship wood we may by separating two pieces of wood and taking away the forme of a Crosse accompt them as vnprofitable sticks and persuade the infidell that we worship not wood but the thing represented by the Crosse which in the speare sponge or réede we neyther can doe nor shewe Here first it is euident that the réede or speare is as holy as the Crosse and therefore as wel to be worshippped as the Crosse although the word of comparison you would fayne suppresse Then that there is not any worde or halfe worde for worshipping yea the whole sequele of the matter doth conuince the contrary Yet your honesty is such as to put in of your owne vnder name of Athanasius Adore and Worship By the Popes owne lawe for being such a falsarie ye should haue your crowne pared be made an Abbey lubber Dist. 50. ca. Si Episcopus as long as ye liue And may not I vse the words of your zealous spirite and say Ah see good readers vvhat a sotte vve haue to doe vvithall Bicause ye reade or heare say at the leaste that a Crosse was made therefore ye conclude Folio 84. b. it was set in the Roodeloft for no man say you maketh him a veluet coat to lay it vp in his presse or his frends picture to be put in the colehouse But doth any wiseman whē he hath a new garment proclaime it in the market place or hang the counter fet of his friend vpon a pole to be sene By your owne slender reason as ye iudge of the one so ymagine of the other Now to come to the ecclesiasticall history where mention is made of the Idol Serapis I wold the readers shuld wel consider it For Roodes Crosses Images haue bene nothing else but coūterfets of Serapis Roodes Crosses Images coūterfets of Serapis Ruffinus Ecclesias hi. lib. 2. cap 23. The priests of Egipt the votaries of those dayes for Ruffinus calleth them 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 such as had made themselues and God wyll chaste set me vp in their temple a monstrous Idoll reaching from one syde of the wal to the other To purchase more credit to it they had made a little windowe eastwarde where the morning sunne might glimmer in taking the iust heyght of their idol shuld shine no lower nor higher than they wold but that when their God was shrined might be full in his face and vpon his lippes And so by this meanes a miracle was wrought the sunne with a kisse bad him welcome to Church Agayne where the nature of the Lodestone is to draw iron to it they made as curiously as workmanship could deuise the Image of the sonne in iron that whereas the sunne was in the vawte the Image directely vnderneath it the Image sometime might rise and hang in the ayre But least the ponderositie of the metall might come to his course agayne they conueyed it away and sayde The sunne hath now taken his leaue of Serapis and gone to his businesse These and such other inuentions they had to deceyue the people Such hayes they pitched to purchas their profit But these were but grosse in respect of the finenesse of our parish priests and popish Chaplens For they haue made Roodes with rowling eyes sweating browes with speaking mouth and walking féete I report me to the Roode of grace the Roode of Winchester the very Crosse of Ludlow and Iacke knacker of Witney Nor maruel if the Crosse be so déepe in your bokes that can stand a hielone and walke on the altare that can runne in the night time from S. Iohns Chappel into our Ladies and will not for ielousy abide frō hir But I would the world should vnderstand that as the Egiptians Christians Serapis and the crosse signe in name do differ so the priests of them both be of one religion Ruffinus Eccl Hist lib. 2. cap. 25. like conuersation Tirānus a chauntrey priest seruing at Saturnus altare had a way to créepe into his Gods belly for he was hollow as most part of our Images are mete for to make swines troughes when so euer any gentlewomans deuotion serued hir to come to make hir oraisons if the priest liked hir parson answere was made frō within that she must abide there all that night in pryuie contemplatiōs The silly husband was glad that he had any thing to do his God a pleasure therfore would deck hir trim hir vp in hir holyday aray and to Church she goeth with penny in hir purse taper in hir hand to offer for hir sinnes The priest before al the people shuts the Church dore he leaues the woman within and home he goeth But afterward by a priuy vawt vnderneath the ground he conuoyes himself into the body of the ymage while the lampes be burning she praying he roareth somewhat out of his trunk partly to feare hir partly also to make hir wel apayde that she should be worthied to haue a God to talk to hir But whē he had wrought what soeuer he thought good eyther to astony hir or entise hir to folly then sodainly by a vice all the candels goe out he playeth the priest