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branch_n as_o the_o reader_n may_v see_v in_o the_o former_a chapter_n the_o seven_o branch_n have_v these_o word_n he_o draw_v they_o out_o which_o take_v hold_v of_o mercy_n this_o branch_n do_v appertain_v to_o predestination_n for_o it_o concern_v man_n order_v unto_o his_o last_o end_n and_o perfection_n the_o other_o six_o belong_v not_o thereto_o for_o they_o speak_v of_o man_n be_v and_o the_o cause_n thereof_o and_o thing_n pertain_v thereto_o they_o have_v not_o a_o word_n of_o order_v man_n to_o any_o end_n if_o this_o seven_o branch_n be_v frame_v according_a to_o art_n it_o will_v stand_v thus_o predestination_n to_o life_n be_v a_o act_n or_o decree_n of_o god_n will_n whereby_o he_o purpose_v to_o draw_v they_o out_o of_o the_o state_n of_o perdition_n which_o take_v hold_v of_o mercy_n in_o this_o frame_n we_o have_v the_o thing_n define_v and_o that_o whereby_o it_o be_v define_v i_o restrain_v the_o question_n unto_o predestination_n to_o life_n because_o our_o church_n do_v so_o artic._n 17._o and_o the_o scripture_n be_v more_o frequent_a in_o that_o and_o no_o marvel_n why_o because_o the_o scripture_n be_v write_v for_o the_o direction_n and_o consolation_n of_o they_o that_o shall_v go_v to_o heaven_n i_o have_v frame_v it_o altogether_o by_o his_o own_o direction_n the_o question_n of_o predestination_n be_v put_v so_o by_o himself_o as_o i_o will_v now_o show_v appeal_v page_n 38._o he_o call_v it_o a_o act_n or_o decree_n of_o god_n which_o must_v needs_o be_v a_o act_n of_o his_o will_n and_o so_o he_o term_v it_o appeal_v page_n 61._o this_o act_n be_v immanent_a not_o transient_a for_o he_o say_v in_o the_o same_o place_n he_o conceive_v it_o set_v by_o all_o