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A93550 Something in answer to a petition to Oliver Cromwel, from the subscribers in Cumberland, which are called iustices and commissioners: also the examination of some friends at the assizes at York, the 17 of Iuly. 1654 (1654) Wing S4659; Thomason E812_7; ESTC R207632 10,984 12

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your wills cannot understand it nor all you who are made Ministers by the will of man Therefore I charge you all in the presence of the living God be silent and wait in the light which is contrary to the will that with it the Scriptures may be approved with the same that gave them forth then you will never seek to man to propagte the Gospel but wait upon the Lord Jesus Christ as they did who received it of him whose Kingdom was not of the world but here it is manifest what Kingdom you are of Petition And that some present course may be prescribed and countenanced for the inforcing the Payment of Tythes and other dues to Ministers to which the people in these parts are extreamly averse Answ Whereas you would have some present course prescribed countenanced for the inforcing the payment of Tythes Friends here openly you have your folly made manifest for you were speaking before of propagating the Gospel and now you are propagating Tythes and the first Priesthood and would have some speedy course prescribed and countenanced for inforcing the payment of Tythes here you shew that you are they that deny Christ Iesus come in the flesh for they held up Tythes did not believe that he was come in the flesh and you would hold up the first Priesthood which received Tythes and now under a colour would have the Gospel propagated and have Tythes propagated see what confused stuff is this read but Hebrews 7. and see how you differ from the Ministers who were made by the wil of God and of Christ which preached the unchangable Priesthood Christ Jesus and said the Priesthood was changed that received Tythes and the Law was changed also and now Tithes you would have propagated then you must propagate the first Priesthood then you must have a store-house as you may read in Malachi and the books of Moses and let all the widows fatherless and strangers come within the Priests gates that they Minister it to them which receive Tythes out of the store-house that there be no beggar in England as there was no beggar in Israel and then you act according to the figure the Priests a figure of the everlasting Priest the changable of the unchangable the store-house of the everlasting Treasure which the everlasting Priest Ministers out of and so deny the everlasting Priest to be come in the flesh and as saying the people in these parts are extreamly averse the people which dwell in the light which Christ Jesus hath enlightned them withall which brings them to witness this unchangable Priest and are of him the royall Priesthood they witness God alone their Teacher we cannot hold up the changable Priesthood that receives Tythes but we witness a change from them for we witness the unchangable therefore we deny them Nevertheless the Priests that take Tythes they have no store-house for the fatherless the widows and strangers to come within their gates and be filled therefore you may see the blessings of God not among you nor upon you therefore you put up Petitions to man who are turned from the Lord and woe unto them that take counsel and not at me saith the Lord or offers up any sacrifice but unto the Lord for if you will have Tythes you must ofter up sacrifice for the people cannot hold up the changable Priesthood which witnesseth the unchangable and so you that put up Petitions to hold up Tythes you are in your own wills and would hold up the changable and they that own your Petition are such guides that have eyes and see not but with the light of Christ which he hath enlightned every one withall are all such to be condemned with the light therefore the word of the Lord God to you who witness the Gospel and preaches it doth not preach up Tythes nor the first Priesthood nor the Temple nor the Altar nor the old store-house though the Ministry of condemnation was glorious the Ministry of the Spirit exceeds in glory and with the unchangable the changable is denyed now if ye say that Christ said ye pay Tythe of Mint and Annise and Cummin and these things ought you to have done its true Christ said these things ought you to have done but he cryed woe unto them and told them they were blind and said they neglected Truth and Judgement and Mercy for had they been in the faith they would have seen him who was the end of Tythe of Mint and Annise and Cummin the unchangable Priest for they which preached him and went up and down in the Synagouges did not preach up Tythe and Annise and Cummin and the first Priesthood though Christ in that time did witness the figure in its place and said these things ought ye to have done but when he was sacrificed up and was preached the other was denyed now if you say give Caesar his due and by this ye cloak that Priests may have tythes and people pay tythes the answer is Caesar shall have his due in his place but this shall not hold up the figure before Christ came in the flesh the first Priesthood to paying tythes and so the figures I witness in its place and I witness Christ Jesus the end of the figures the unchangable Priest and so I deny the figure and the changable Priesthood so if we suffer our goods to be spoiled joyfully for witnessing the unchangable Priest and denying the changable that takes tythes it s for Christs sake as some now in Cumberland and Westmerland are brought before Rulers because they cannot pay the Priests tythes and some again have their goods destrained out of their houses because they cannot pay the Priest tythes as many may witness it Oh the havock that is made of people with this generation of Priests and the Justices that hold them up at Courts and Sessions troubling vexing poor people about tythes who witness the unchangable Priest and denying the changable and so many are brought to suffer the spoiling of the goods joyfully there was a member of a Kirk which turned Preacher and he was a cause of ones being cast into prison because he could not pay him tythes and deny Christ Jesus the unchangable Priest nor hold up the first for shame never talk of propagating the Gospel or mention the Gospel where did ever any of the Ministers of the Gospel or the Apostles sue any at Law for tythes and if they could not to have Bayliffs to come to fetch away their goods their kettles or their pots and cast poor people into prison Oh shame shame here let the life of the Apostles Judge you all who profess your selves Ministers and put up Petitions for propagating and setting up such and say they are godly and here you make your selves manifest that you are no Ministers of the Gospel here the lye is found in your mouth to sue men for tythes to destrain for tythes and to put up Petitions for tythes and say you are Ministers
of the Gospel here your fruits do declare it what you are for the Ministers of the Gospel denyed the first Priesthood and never sued any man at the Law for tythes but the Ministers of the Gospel are ashamed of you for all who own Christ Jesus the unchangable Priest deny tythes and the first Priesthood and do not sue any man at the Law but are brought to yea and nay in their communications here you may see how far you are from the doctrine of Christ which the Apostles walked in or shew me any example that ever the Apostles practised any such thing or any of them putting up Petitions or any of them had tythes or any of them sued ever any at the Law for tythes or the Apostles ever had Bayliffs to destrain goods for tythes for them of the people their pots their kettles and their Pewter or bedding or their horses or cattel or threw them into prison for tythes Oh havock havock what havock do you make of the Church which witness the unchangable Priest and now if you cannot find one example among the Apostles which acted these practises which are acted among the Priests of England let their life Judge you and their doctrine to be evil beasts which mind earthly things who serve not the Lord Iesus Christ but their own bellies and lay their hands upon their mouths for shame and never mention it more that they are Ministers of the Gospel for with the light which Christ Iesus hath enlightned you withal are you all seen and condemned and this you must own before ever you own the Gospel for they which preach the Gospel bring glad tydings and they do not make the Gospel chargable or burthensome nor look at an outward power to have set benefits or tythes nay they first plant a Vineyard before they eat of the fruit of it and they preach the Gospel before they live of it and such deny the first Priesthood that receiveth tythes and doth not preach it up and doth not covet any mans silver or gold or apparel which preach the Gospel and here you that sue men at the Law and strain their goods and cast them into prison doth covet both their silver and their goods so there you are condemned with the life of the Apostles and to be out of their doctrine and with the life Iudged and with the light condemned and unto you this is the word of God unto the light in your consciences I speak which have put up this Petition which will let you see that your eye is abroad which is the fools which if you love it it will guide your minds to Christ and here is every ones Teacher the light and every ones way to Christ the Saviour and every ones way out of the world which leads them into the world where there is no end and you that would have tythes and a speedy course for keeping them up because God hath raised up the light in the hearts of people and caused the light to shine out of darkness in the face of Iesus from whom the light comes and with the light they do confess Christ the unchangable Priest and deny the changable Priest that receives tythes for you that hold up tythes and the first Priesthood are in the Ministry of condemnation and not in the Ministry of the Spirit and to you this is the word of the Lord. And you that look for Teachers are such as are turned from the light and are such as would not have Christ to raign over you which are erred from the light for who turns from the light are in the self-righteousness but who walks in the light with the light such are condemned and it brings to witness Christ the Minister and Bishop of the soul and denies all who are made Ministers by the will of man in that nature to the light they are to be condemned they are keepers in time your Ministry of man made by the will of man and hath mens persons in admiration because of advantage which is erred from the light the other which is made by the will of God manifest to that of God in every mans conscience and goes to Minister to that in the person and to the bringing it up out of that time unto God and with that which leads out of time condemns that which keeps in time and to you this is the word of God To you that put up Petitions to the powers of the earth for a set maintenance for your Teachers and tythes can you not here be ashamed are you a Vineyard and doth no fruit grow in you he that planted gathers no fruit you may be ashamed woe unto you Vineyard dressers must you now put up Petitions to the Powers of the earth and a cloak to sue such at the Law as you persecute which are not of you Oh shame you Teachers and people will not your Vineyard maintain you now it is manifest what you have been sowing all this while you have talked and told people of sowing spiritual things and said it was the least if they Ministred unto you carnal things and now is there not carnal things to be reaped and now you put up Petitions to the Powers of the earth to get maintenance of them that are not of you whom you do no work for who hath not hired you let shame strike you ye Vineyard dressers in the face and you may be ashamed of your works The Examination of Boswel Middleton before the Iudge of the Assize so called at York the 17. of Iuly 1654. IVdge Nudigate Hold up thy hand Boswell Mid. I deny the Ceremony Clerk read Whereas Boswel Middleton Cordinar in the City of York having maliciously and contemptuously disturbed Mr. Edward Bowles Minister when he was preaching in All Saints Church saying Thou art a Minister of Antichrist and also the Congregation and troubled and vexed the said Preacher Iudge What sayest thou guilty or not guilty Boswell The words which I spoke to him was the word of the Lord but maliciously I deny then they read over the Indictment again and I was moved to speak these words Iudge righteous Iudgement and do Iustice the Lord requires it of you Iudge Didst thou speak these words yea or nay Boswel A minister of Anti-christ I witness him to be Iudge Stood up and said let us reason together what is Anti-christ Boswell He that practiseth and holdeth up those things which Iesus Christ witnesseth against is Antichrist Iudge What things are those Boswell Such as are called of men Masters and go in Long robes and have the chiefest places in the Assemblies Salutations in the Market places and so forth read to that in thy conscience Iudge Said I was mad and spoke non-sense and sat him down what sayest thou wilt thou confess thou disturbedst the Church yea or no Bos The Saints Church is in God the Father our Lord Iesus Christ and in this Church all may speak one by one and there peace cannot be broken but your Church I deny Iudge Wilt thou own the Indictment altogether as it lies Bos The words which were spoken by me I own and witness It was the word of the Lord but malice and the rest I deny it is your own A Minister of Anti-christ he is and I shall witness it with my blood if thereto I be required Iudge It were well if you were grounded upon the Scriptures and not such youths to disturb the Ministers Bos Give one example in all the Scriptures where ever the Ministers of Iesus Christ were defended with a carnal Law yea or nay but they were all silent then they called a Iury and swore them against me and I spoke these words Friends all you that swear you are out of the doctrine of Christ who saith swear not at all then I told them I have suffered the wages of the Law and layen in prison near six moneths Iudge That is thy advantage but here is another advantage art thou sorry Bosw I stand to the Lord If I have transgressed the Law here is my body at the Lords service inflict what punishment on it you can I have cleared my conscience and am willing to suffer and here the Scripture is fulfilled on you who make offenders for a word The Examination of Henry Fewler before the Iudge of Assize so called IVstice Dickinson Have you brought Sureties for your good behaviour Henry I am bound to good behaviour by the power of God Dickinson Spoke to the Iudge and he would not hear him but waved it then they drew an Indictment which is as followeth whereas Henry Fewler in the Parish of Saint Lawrence did maliciously disturb and falsely accuse Thomas Dickinson Iustice of the Peace saying thou art a Persecuter of the Saints of the most high God Quest what say you are you guilty of this Indictment yea or no Ans Maliciously I deny I have no malice to him nor no man more then to a child in a Cradle neither did I know that I should speak to thee till I saw thy face And then I was moved to speak to thee by the power of God but hadst thou not been guilty thou needst not have been angry or disturbed hadst thou not had a persecuting spirit thou wouldst not have sent me to prison for speaking a word to thy conscience I did not affront thee neither follow thee I was within my own door stead and for the man that was persecured it was upon a false oath as I can let the Iudge understand Iudge Come friend art thou sorry for disturbing the Magistrate Ans I am not sorry for doing the work of the Lord he that doth the command of the Lord need not be sorry Iudge If you will acknowledge you are sorry I will set you free here Ans I am not sorry then the Court broke up FINIS