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A28884 The pride and avarice of the clergie, viz. parsons, vicars & curats, hindering the reformation discovered in a plain and familiar dialogue between Philalethes and presbyter / by Abraham Boun, gent. Boun, Abraham. 1650 (1650) Wing B3836; ESTC R30307 53,217 195

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