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A66906 Two treatises the first proving both by history & record that the bishops are a fundamental & essential part of our English Parliament : the second that they may be judges in capital cases. Womock, Laurence, 1612-1685. 1680 (1680) Wing W3355; ESTC R34097 35,441 39

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