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A48363 An ansvver to Sir Thomas Manwaring's book, intituled, - An admonition to the reader of Sir Peter Leicester's books. Written by the same Sir Peter Leicester Leycester, Peter, Sir, 1614-1678. 1677 (1677) Wing L1941A; ESTC R217658 12,105 49

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year_n 1449_o and_o die_v several_a year_n before_o her_o husband_n answer_n but_o this_o mistake_n i_o rectify_v in_o print_n long_o since_o at_o the_o end_n of_o my_o say_a book_n among_o the_o errata_fw-la and_o also_o at_o the_o end_n of_o my_o answer_n to_o the_o defence_n of_o amicia_n so_o soon_o as_o i_o know_v the_o certainty_n of_o it_o and_o therefore_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v charge_v upon_o i_o to_o the_o 16._o pag._n 12._o here_o he_o say_v that_o i_o say_v sir_n john_n manwaring_n die_v about_o the_o very_a end_n of_o edw._n 4._o his_o reign_n but_o he_o be_v dead_a for_o certain_a the_o 14._o of_o april_n 20._o of_o edw._n 4._o answer_n have_v i_o but_o say_v towards_o the_o latter_a end_n of_o edw._n 4._o i_o have_v not_o much_o err_v and_o i_o can_v not_o put_v down_o the_o exact_a time_n till_o i_o know_v it_o now_o edw._n 4._o reign_v but_o 22_o year_n in_o all_o to_o the_o 17._o pag._n 12_o 13._o here_o he_o say_v that_o i_o omit_v agnes_n daughter_n of_o john_n manwaring_n of_o peever_n esquire_n and_o wife_n of_o sir_n robert_n nedham_n answer_n indeed_o at_o first_o i_o make_v some_o doubt_n of_o the_o truth_n hereof_o because_o i_o find_v in_o my_o lord_n kilmorey_n pedigree_n under_o the_o herald_n seal_n that_o the_o say_a sir_n robert_n nedham_n marry_v maud_n daughter_n of_o sir_n john_n savage_n but_o as_o soon_o as_o i_o find_v out_o the_o truth_n i_o rectify_v that_o omission_n in_o print_n at_o the_o end_n of_o my_o answer_n to_o the_o defence_n of_o amicia_n pag._n 87_o as_o will_v appear_v by_o the_o say_a book_n print_v 1673_o and_o do_v also_o blot_v out_o that_o match_n with_o savage_a in_o my_o own_o book_n in_o the_o pedigree_n of_o that_o family_n pag._n 233._o and_o yet_o he_o impute_v it_o now_o again_o as_o if_o i_o have_v not_o mend_v the_o same_o which_o be_v unjust_o charge_v here_o to_o the_o 18._o pag._n 13._o here_o he_o say_v that_o katherine_n manwaring_n marry_v william_n newton_n probable_o 1522_o and_o i_o have_v say_v it_o be_v 1521_o so_o that_o there_o be_v no_o certainty_n of_o what_o i_o there_o say_v answer_n i_o say_v it_o be_v as_o probable_a they_o be_v marry_v 1521_o as_o 1522_o and_o can_v absolute_a certainty_n be_v always_o find_v out_o in_o matter_n of_o this_o nature_n in_o every_o particular_a therefore_o let_v it_o stand_v till_o he_o prove_v it_o to_o be_v a_o error_n to_o the_o 19_o pag._n 14._o here_o he_o say_v that_o pag._n 335_o i_o say_v sir_n john_n manwaring_n be_v sheriff_n of_o flintshire_n 6._o of_o henry_n 8._o but_o i_o take_v no_o notice_n that_o he_o be_v sheriff_n there_o 23_o and_o 24_o of_o henry_n 7_o and_o also_o 1_o and_o 2_o of_o henry_n 8._o answer_n what_o if_o i_o do_v not_o it_o be_v true_a what_o i_o have_v say_v and_o well_o enough_o without_o it_o for_o as_o i_o say_v before_o it_o be_v not_o possible_a that_o i_o shall_v comprehend_v every_o particular_a nor_o any_o man_n else_o and_o shall_v my_o credit_n of_o write_a truth_n be_v 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know_v to_o the_o 22._o pag._n 14._o here_o he_o say_v that_o pag._n 336._o i_o say_v philip_n manwaring_n esquire_n be_v the_o five_o son_n of_o sir_n john_n manwaring_n but_o he_o be_v the_o seven_o son_n bear_v and_o not_o the_o five_o as_o appear_v by_o the_o monument_n of_o the_o say_a sir_n john_n in_o over-peev_a church_n wherein_o the_o monument_n of_o the_o say_v philip_n be_v also_o answer_n it_o may_v be_v so_o but_o they_o all_o die_v young_a and_o philip_n become_v heir_n if_o it_o be_v a_o error_n it_o be_v but_o a_o small_a one_o and_o not_o material_a to_o the_o 23._o pag._n 15._o here_o he_o confess_v what_o i_o say_v to_o be_v truth_n that_o the_o herald_n in_o the_o reign_n of_o queen_n elizabeth_n make_v for_o sir_n randle_n manwaring_n coat_n barry_n of_o twelve_o piece_n argent_fw-fr and_o gules_a see_v guillims_n heraldry_n pag._n 373._o but_o say_v he_o the_o manwaring_n since_o then_o have_v again_o give_v two_o bar_n only_o and_o the_o coat_n which_o the_o say_a sir_n randle_n do_v then_o usual_o bear_v be_v six_o barrulet_n and_o that_o i_o know_v the_o ancient_a coat_n to_o be_v six_o barrulet_n pag._n 330._o and_o not_o barry_n of_o twelve_o piece_n answer_n it_o be_v true_a that_o i_o say_v the_o ancient_a deed_n of_o roger_n manwaring_n make_v in_o the_o reign_n of_o king_n henry_n the_o three_o be_v seal_v with_o a_o escocheon_n of_o six_o barrulet_n pag._n 330._o but_o that_o coat_n devise_v for_o the_o say_a sir_n randle_n guillim_n the_o herald_n call_v it_o barry_n of_o twelve_o piece_n i_o know_v not_o the_o criticism_n in_o these_o term_n of_o heraldry_n the_o herald_n themselves_o be_v the_o best_a judge_n herein_o and_o whether_o we_o call_v it_o the_o one_o or_o the_o other_o it_o be_v not_o a_o pin_n matter_n nor_o have_v i_o commit_v any_o error_n at_o all_o for_o i_o there_o vouch_v guillim_n for_o it_o to_o the_o 24._o pag._n 15._o here_o he_o say_v that_o i_o say_v the_o say_a sir_n randle_n manwaring_n the_o elder_a build_v the_o hall_n of_o over-peev_a anew_o 1586._o but_o say_v he_o part_n of_o the_o say_a house_n be_v build_v 1585._o and_o another_o part_n be_v build_v 1586._o answer_n be_v not_o here_o a_o worshipful_a exception_n it_o be_v more_o proper_a to_o ascribe_v the_o time_n when_o it_o be_v build_v to_o the_o finish_n of_o it_o than_o when_o it_o be_v begin_v for_o it_o be_v not_o all_o build_v till_o it_o be_v finish_v to_o the_o 25._o pag._n 16._o here_o he_o say_v that_o pag._n 336._o i_o call_v sir_n philip_n manwaring_n secretary_n of_o ireland_n to_o the_o earl_n of_o stafford_n 1638._o whereas_o the_o say_a sir_n philip_n be_v his_o majesty_n secretary_n of_o state_n there_o answer_n here_o i_o confess_v my_o word_n be_v not_o well_o order_v for_o i_o intend_v no_o more_o there_o than_o that_o he_o be_v secretary_n of_o ireland_n in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o earl_n of_o stafford_n then_z lord_z lieutenant_z there_o 1638._o but_o i_o have_v correct_v this_o in_o my_o note_n at_o the_o side_n of_o my_o own_o book_n long_o before_o without_o any_o admonition_n from_o sir_n thomas_n to_o the_o 26._o pag._n 16._o here_o he_o say_v that_o i_o say_v the_o say_a sir_n philip_n manwaring_n die_v the_o second_o of_o august_n 1661._o at_o london_n but_o say_v he_o he_o die_v at_o westminster_n in_o sir_n philip_n warwick_n house_n which_o be_v in_o or_o near_a to_o st._n james_n park_n answer_n be_v not_o here_o a_o ridiculous_a exception_n for_o a_o wise_a man_n to_o make_v do_v not_o we_o always_o say_v in_o the_o country_n such_o a_o man_n die_v at_o london_n whether_o he_o die_v at_o westminster_n or_o in_o any_o of_o the_o suburb_n according_a to_o our_o common_a use_n of_o speak_v it_o be_v no_o matter_n for_o take_v notice_n at_o who_o house_n to_o the_o 27._o pag._n 16_o 17._o here_o he_o say_v that_o i_o take_v no_o notice_n that_o sir_n robert_n brierwood_n be_v make_v sergeant_n at_o law_n 1640_o nor_o that_o he_o be_v make_v one_o of_o the_o judge_n of_o the_o kings-bench_n 1643._o and_o further_o say_v that_o pag._n 187_o i_o say_v the_o say_a sir_n robert_n be_v make_v judge_n of_o the_o common-plea_n 1643._o whereas_o he_o be_v never_o make_v judge_n of_o the_o court_n of_o the_o common-plea_n but_o of_o the_o kings-bench_n and_o also_o that_o pag._n 334._o i_o say_v sir_n john_n nedham_n be_v justitiarius_n the_o banco_n whereby_o he_o suppose_v i_o do_v there_o erroneous_o take_v justitiarius_n de_fw-fr banco_n to_o be_v a_o judge_n of_o the_o kings-bench_n answer_n for_o the_o first_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a nor_o material_a to_o take_v notice_n in_o that_o place_n of_o sir_n robert_n brierwood_n be_v make_v either_o sergeant_n at_o law_n or_o judge_n of_o the_o kings-bench_n for_o though_o it_o will_v have_v be_v full_a to_o have_v put_v they_o in_o here_o yet_o it_o be_v no_o error_n without_o it_o and_o i_o have_v before_o as_o sir_n thomas_n here_o
confess_v among_o the_o recorder_n of_o chest●r_n pag._n 187_o there_o take_v notice_n both_o of_o his_o be_v sergeant_n at_o law_n and_o be_v make_v judge_n of_o the_o common-plea_n howbeit_o sir_n thomas_n say_v it_o shall_v have_v be_v judge_n of_o the_o kings-bench_n be_v it_o so_o i_o have_v it_o but_o by_o common_a fame_n then_o as_o to_o judge_n nedham_n i_o call_v he_o justitiarius_n de_fw-fr banco_n pag._n 334._o which_o he_o suppose_v i_o do_v there_o erroneous_o take_v for_o a_o judge_n of_o the_o kings-bench_n yet_o do_v he_o not_o find_v i_o any_o where_o so_o expound_v it_o so_o that_o he_o will_v suppose_v i_o have_v commit_v a_o error_n before_o there_o be_v one_o to_o the_o 28._o pag._n 18._o here_o he_o say_v that_o pag._n 336._o i_o say_v philip_n manwaring_n esquire_n marry_v helen_n daughter_n of_o edward_n minshul_n of_o stoke_n 20_o jacob._n 1622._o whereas_o they_o be_v marry_v 1617._o 15_o jacob._n answer_n this_o i_o believe_v be_v the_o most_o material_a 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