Selected quad for the lemma: law_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
law_n	john_n	knight_n	sir_n	20,604	5	7.8822	4	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A46054	Ignoramus vindicated in a dialogue between prejudice and indifference touching the duty, power, and proceedings of juries : together with some material points relating thereunto / declared for law by the Right Honourable Sir John Vaughan ...	Vaughan, John, Sir, 1603-1674.	1681 (1681)	Wing I46; ESTC R34473	9,072	16

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