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A93206 A short conference between a scrupling Presbyterian, and a Puritan concerning maintenance for the gospel ministrie wherein dialogue-wise is lovingly argued; whether tythes, or any other stinted proportion of mens estates, may now under the gospel be required by the ministers, or pay'd by the people, by vertue of any expresse warrant, or good consequence from scripture. with a letter to the Assembly of Divines. Westminster Assembly (1643-1652) 1646 (1646) Wing S3582; Thomason E335_9; ESTC R200781 7,073 8

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