fourth Question is in the negative in the first part denying that man hath any light in him at all to please God in the state of corrupt nature and this I judge a truth though not proper to the Question which is not of doing to please God but of whence that light is that all have you talk of which in the second part you answer is from Christ according to Joh. 1.9 and yet not common to all men by nature but is the great gift of God c. which Answer I charged with a contradiction because all are lightened by Christ that come into the world as you quote and yet say man in corrupt nature hath not any light in him nor is it common to men by nature when it 's certain that men come into the world by naturall birth But to reconcile these they Answer That man in corrupt nature is darknesse but Christ lightneth every one and his light shines in darknesse and makes manifest what ever is reproved Though we deny that the light which convinceth for sin is of corrupt man yet we affirme it to be given to man in Christ And this is the substance of what is said That man in corrupt nature should be darknesse in the abstract and hath not any light in him and that man in the same estate is lightened by Christ and that with such a light too that if it be owned and loved will lead out of darknesse to eternall life as they affirme let them that are sober judge how these agree together Such cannot do any thing to please God and yet have that within them that will lead them out of darknesse to eternall life which is the greatest acceptation of favour God gives to man Then they conclude For though we deny the light which convinceth of sin to be of corrupt man yet say they We affirm it to be given to man in Christ who is the life and enlighteneth every one that comes into the world But how can they affirme that all men in corrupt nature are in Christ and so enlightened by him when the Scriptures speak contrary as Ephes 2.11 12. Wherefore remember that ye being in times past Gentiles in the flesh that at that time ye were without Christ and strangers to the Covenant of Promise having no hope and without God in the world They were sometimes darknesse but now are they light in the Lord since they embraced the Doctrine of faith that the Apostles preached and lived in Christian obedience they are said to be light in the Lord Contradistinct to the other Gentiles that walked after the vanity of their minds chap. 4.17 18 19. And there are some that are not in the faith nor new creatures which all are that are in Christ as 2 Cor. 5.17 chap. 13.5 And how can any be said to be in Christ but by faith which all men have not 2 Thes 3.2 And how did the Apostles by their preaching open blind eyes and turn them from darknesse to light by the command power of Christ if they had the light of Christ and in Christ as before which hath been spoken to as Christ is the light of the Gentiles according to Scriptures By this you may see how clear they come off in what I have charged them with To say that man in the state of corrupt nature hath not any light at all is not true but it is true that a man in that estate cannot do any thing acceptable to God as those that are renewed by grace The former without doubt have the light and use of true reason and understanding faculties though corrupted and as the light of reason presents things to the Conscience good or evil doth the Conscience accuse or give quiet to the mind of man in all his actions Hence the Gentiles by nature do the things contained in the Law and are a Law unto themselves Rom. 2.14 15. The Apostle doth not say that they doe the things contained in the Law by Grace in Christ Jesus as you say and witnesse in your next But he saith they do the things contained in the Law and are a Law to themselves by nature simply will you say that what they did by nature they did by Christ and wherein they were a Law to themselves Christ was that Law to them Surely no unlesse you have an art to make the nature of man corrupted and Christ both one that the being and nature of man is of Christ uncorrupted as all things are which he hath made may be granted for in him we live move and have our being And as the reasonable soul is created and given it may be said to be of God and the candle of the Lord but in mans fallen estate this soul the candle of the Lord is so perverted and under blindnesse and obliquity that not any flesh can be justified and saved by any works of the Law but by faith in the blood of Christ Jesus shed for many for remission of sins There is not any that doth good no not one all have sinned and are deprived of the Glory of God Rom. 3. How Christ is the light of the Gentiles and for salvation to the ends of the earth that have not the letter as they again is answered above and what followes I deny namely And not any other light leads to do the things contained in the law because those the Apostle speaks of were of those other Gentiles that were alienated from the life of Christ through the ignorance that is in them darknesse But they go on and say further But this light of Christ doth not only lead to the righteousnesse of the law as thou sayst but it leads through the law to Christ Jesus in whom justification is witnessed who is the end of the law for righteousnesse to every one that believes Rom. 10.4 Answ The main scope and end of the Law is this to require of man a righteousnesse suitable in his own person as he is Gods creature unto it but man being never able to come up to this end in his fallen estate and so by coming short of righteousnesse he falls short of life Jesus Christ was sent in the likenesse of sinfull flesh and for sin or by a sacrifice for sin condemned sin in the flesh And on the sinners behalf is the end of the law for righteousnesse that by his coming up to the end of the law poor sinners that believe in him may have righteousnesse and life But what is this to them that have not heard of Christ nor known his name nor believed in him in truth at all The Apostle said as I That the Gentiles by nature do the things contained in the Law he no where calls this Law in themselves the light of Christ promised nor doth he say what they do by nature leads through the Law to Christ nor any other Scripture as you affirme Well may I charge you with confused notions if you can no better clear your
the preaching of the Doctrine of faith Neither is there salvation in any other but in that Saviour and Redeemer which the Apostles preached Act. 9.12 for there is no other name under heaven given amongst men whereby we must be saved but the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth whom the Jewes crucified and God raised from the dead ver 11. and this name and person Christ Jesus designed of God to be a Saviour cannot any know of or believe in him but by the help of Scriptures or the ministrie thereof and he that believes not in this name Christ Jesus the Son of the living God shall be damned Mark 16.16 And doth not our Saviour affirme that salvation is of the Jewes as they were the Church of God peculiar from all other people under heaven because unto them was committed the Oracles of God and is not the christian Church grafted into them and peculiar from all others Infidels and misbelievers and have the same and more spirituall priviledges and blessings of the Covenant while all others are left to wander in their own wayes were not the Apostles Doctrine which they preached the only means of enlightning the dark world and let them shew us where and to whom they preached the light in men to be the Gospell and Christ within them that the Gentiles should be saved by No they preached Christ crucified a dying bleeding Christ for remission of sins It pleased God by the foolishnesse of preaching Christ as they did to save them that believe as they were fitted and sent of God so they were directed in doing his work faithfully and were accompanyed with an answerable successe witnesse the many Churches that they gathered and converted to the christian faith turning them from darknesse to the true light and from the power of Satan unto God striving to preach Christ where he never had been named before Rom. 15.20 And what Christ did they preach is easie to determine may the Scriptures judge Either let these sinners against their own souls preach the same Christ to sinners for the same ends and purposes as the Scriptures witnesse of the Apostles or else let their lying mouths be stopped and persist no further in deceiving themselves and seducing others Reader thou canst not but judge the Question rational and religious if the Scriptures may judge and to be answered in the negative and yet these men who out of their thick darknesse having denyed the Scriptures to be the Rule of faith and obedience are forced to forge out of their dark imaginations another Rule of revealing Christ to lost man besides the Scriptures which Rule is in every man sometimes under the notion off light within law of the heart heer they bring in an unlimited power of God distinct from the use of those Ordinances and wayes which God hath appointed to make usefull in those Divine discoveries of Christ the only Mediator between God and sinfull man and without which Christ as Mediator and Redeemer is not known nor believed in unto salvation at all They carp and cavill at my expressions because the Question is to Gods ordinary and usual dealings with the souls of men and have waved the extraordinary and unusuall operations of the hidden unlimited power of God doing what he will to Infants distracted deaf in the Church in shewing them mercie but they reject all ordinary means of Scripture and ordinances therein appointed and onely set up an immediate unlimited power of God though if the word of an Apostle be of credit before them the Gospell of Christ is the power of God to salvation Rom. 1.16 So necessary is the ministry of the Gospell to salvation that it 's called the power of God to that end and yet I have all along yeelded that to the means must be added a Divine hand in working effectually upon the souls of men or else nothing can be wrought unto salvation and as for the expressions themselves it is not much materiall that they be found in Scripture so long as the thing and sense is there as hath and much more might be added in proof thereof were it needfull The word ordinary food is in Ezekiel Ezek. 16.27 there the Lord threatned to deny it which were their dayly bread but I say the thing it self is grounded upon Scriptures Israel drank of water in the Brooks and Springs and Wells that they digged which was ordinary and yet Gods gift they also drank of water that God gave them out of a Rock in the Wildernesse where no water was before and thâ—t was extraordinary Israel took of their Dough for bread which they had prepared in Aegypt and that was ordinary but when their food was spent the Lord gave them bread from heaven and that was extraordinary for a time till they could be put into a capacity of ordinary food again I might instance in twenty things more but I forbear But see the peversenesse of these men because God at some times hath revealed himself immediately by his Spirit without means therefore they conclude he doth so still although we have his word to reveal his mind and will unto us in all things necessary to be known and done Their quotations are perverted and wrested as they do all other Scriptures to their own destruction and to what end do they quote Scriptures in proof of any thing they assert while they deny the Scriptures to be the Rule of faith and obedience In my reply I urged Joh. 5.39 against the latter part of their Answer in which I told them that Christ commands the Jewes to search the Scriptures for in them you think to have eternall life and they are they which testifie of me But these Quakers say contrary He that thinks to attain the way to eternall life by reading the Scriptures and regards not the light that comes from Christ deceives himself To this I said it seems the holy Scriptures are opposed to the light which comes from Christ and I judge that the Scriptures are a light that comes from Christ and the only way and means appointed by God both to know and believe in Christ to eternall life where and to whom the Lord is pleased to give his blessing Their Answer To say that we speak contrary to Christ is false but he that reads the Scriptures and regards not the light which gave them forth to learn wrests them to his own destruction 2 Pet. 3.16 and so deceivs himself and such are they that put them in place of the light and think them the only way and means appointed by God to eternal life Answ Did not Christ approve of the Jewes opinion in thinking that in the Scriptures they should have eternal life for where is there any promise of eternal life or discovery of the way and means to attain it but in the Scriptures and from that good opinion the Jewes had of the truth of Scriptures Christ refers them to the Scriptures as bearing testimony that he
the simple and David acknowledges it to be both a Lamp and a light Psal 119. Besides whatsoever makes manifest is light but the Scripture doth make manifest what Christ is and what he hath done and suffered and for whom and for what ends So also they make manifest what sin is and the wages thereof what holinesse and true Worship of God is and how God will be served by all that shall be saved therefore the Scriptures are a true light If the Spirit of Christ doth give forth light to men then the Scriptures are a light to enlighten men because holy men writ them as they were moved and inspired by the holy Ghost and all Scripture were given by Inspiration of God and therefore deny the light of Scriptures and deny the light of the Spirit for what the Scripture saith the Spirit saith they being the Revelations and Inspirations of the Spirit And what may we think of these seducers that under pretence of a light within and a perfect Law of God in the heart and the Revelations of Christ in them condemn me for making the Revelations and Inspirations of God in Scripture a perfect Rule of faith and obedience but we are sure the Law of God which Scriptures teach is perfect holy just and good and a sure word and the Inspirations of God contained in Scriptures are true as God himself but as for that Law and Spirit that cannot stand unlesse the Scriptures fall it is easie to discern from whence it is But say they this light is not received from the Scripture but from Christ c. Answ The light of Scripture is the light of Christ as also the Scripture Ministry by which alone Christ became a light to the Gentiles and in that Christ hath appointed a Ministry of men and given them gifts and Authority to preach the Gospell unto the Gentiles and by his blessing hath made them successefull to turn them from darknesse to light as in the Apostles age especially Thus and no otherwise is he sent to be a light unto the Gentiles for how can any believe in him of whom they never heard as hath been spoke to already and what ever is wrought by his Authority in the use of means is all one with being wrought by Christ himself to any that are sober And hence those distinctions of mine are grounded of Christ more strictly and immediately and of Christ more comprehensive and in a mediate sense as he hath made the promise of his presence and blessing to those Ministers of the Gospell that teach and administer in the Church all things whatsoever Christ hath commanded to be done Matth. 28.19 He that walks in the midst of the seven Golden Candlesticks will be with the Scripture Ministry to the end of the World untill the whole be gathered and united to their head and made compleat in him They say this light of Christ cannot be blotted out as thou sayst That which I said was a supposition thus Suppose that all the light of Christ as Redeemer which you from time to time have received from the use of Scriptures Ministry Education Discourse were blotted out of your minds and heads tell me what you could know of Christ as he is designed of God to redeeme lost man and how the work of Redemption is wrought more then the rude heathen that never heard of his name All that they Answer to this is That the light cannot be blotted out as thou saist But what light is that which cannot be blotted out Say they The light of Christ that leads out of darknesse to the knowledge of God to eternall life though they have not the use of Scriptures this light is not received into the mind and head from the Scripture neither cannot be blotted out but it comes from Christ the light of the Gentiles such as thou callest Heathens who many of them shew the work of the Law in their hearts and shall be excused when thou and all that oppose the light of Christ shall be condemned Christians look about you for the Devil was never so bold as now and I think there is more of the Devil in so few lines then ever were writ by man before consider them well I assure you it 's all their own Was ever such an abominable thing asserted amongst Christians The light of Christ that leads out of darknesse to the knowledge of God to eternall life is not received in the mind from the Scripture but from Christ the light of the Gentiles As if the Scriptures were opposed to the light of Christ or of no use to reveal Christ as Redeemer to the salvation of lost man Christians you see now their Answer what it is to the Question namely That the light of Christ without the use of Scripture leads out of darknesse to the knowledge of God to eternall life c. even to the Gentiles that never heard of Christ nor believe in him to salvation But if this be true to what end did Christ come into the world and lay down his life to be a ransome for many and why did he shed his blood for many for remission of sins Christs death and resurrection is all in vain for all the world from the beginning have had this kind of light shewing the work of the law in their hearts and do by nature the things contained in the Law 1. But let them prove that this work of the Law is the light of Christ that Simeon prophesied of and the Prophets and that the Apostles witnessed fulfilled by their preaching and writings 2. And let them prove that the work of the Law in their hearts leads out of darknesse to eternall life The Scriptures say the contrary By the works of the Law shall no flesh be justified nor is there any law that can give life 3. And let them prove that the work of the Law in the hearts of unbelieving Gentiles is a spirituall blesseing of the new Covenant Heb. 8. which the Apostle applyed to the believing Church so did the Prophets of old time Jer. 31. If they cannot prove these three things let shame stop their lying mouths Jesus Christ as he was promised to be a light of the Gentiles Isai 42.6 7. is to be understood of a peculiar spirituall light Christ was given for such a light to the Gentiles as should open the blind eyes and bring out the Prisoners from the Prison and them that sit in darknesse in the Regions and shadow of death out of the Prison house to guide their feet in the way of peace Luk. 1. Which accordingly was fulfilled in the Apostles age but how not by Christ immediately but by Christs Authority who appointed men and furnished them with gifts and abilities to preach the Gospell unto them and opened their hearts to receive it and become Christians in profession and truth And in that they were converted and enlightened by means himself appointed is all one by being converted and enlightened