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A66481 The judgment of the foreign reformed churches concerning the rites and offices of the Church of England shewing there is no necessity of alterations : in a letter to a member of the House of Commons. Willes, John, 1646 or 7-1700. 1690 (1690) Wing W2807; ESTC R8187 45,548 70

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mr._n baxter_n in_o his_o reason_n of_o the_o christian_a religion_n p._n 485._o no_o christian_a must_v pretend_v holiness_n against_o unity_n and_o peace_n and_o every_o tender_a conscience_n shall_v be_v as_o tender_v of_o church-division_n and_o real_a schism_n as_o of_o drunkenness_n whoredom_n or_o such_o other_o enormous_a sin_n we_o come_v next_o to_o consider_v the_o great_a point_n of_o order_n and_o which_o seem_v to_o have_v be_v principal_o aim_v at_o viz._n the_o allow_v of_o presbyterian_a order_n as_o valid_a the_o author_n of_o the_o letter_n from_o the_o country_n p._n 10_o 11._o propose_v three_o expedient_n the_o first_o be_v bishop_n bramball_n the_o second_o be_v hypothetical_n the_o three_o be_v that_o of_o the_o bill_n of_o union_n to_o the_o first_o i_o answer_v that_o bishop_n bramhall_n do_v never_o allow_v of_o presbyterian_a ordination_n but_o do_v actual_o and_o with_o all_o the_o rite_n and_o method_n of_o our_o church_n re-ordain_a such_o as_o have_v 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