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A18926 Theologicall axioms or conclusions publikly controuerted, discussed, and concluded by that poore English congregation, in Amstelredam: to whome H.C. for the present, ad-ministreth the ghospel. Togither with an examination of the saide conclusions, by Henoch Clapham. Here-vnto is added a litle tractate entituled. The carpenter. Clapham, Henoch. 1597 (1597) STC 5346; ESTC S117152 42,593 52

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the princes of the people as Neh. 9.38 In diuerse actions that appertained to the whole people only the heads of the Tribes or the cheife of the families were elected In this place common sense will tell vs that so many thowsands of people cold not conveniently lay on hands 3. Thirdly whither people or the cheif of the people did solemnize this action they had the Lord his ymmediate commaund for their warrant and what maketh that for the other Except therfore such Imposition remayne Good we must as for Baptisme a waite som other callings from heauen that may reare vp this ordinance anewe or the Propheticall or Euangelicall ministrie stirred vp here and there must as did the Apostles incommend this ordinance vnto others which if yet it camnot make all the former of none effect considering som true prophets haue had the conuoyance of the former Conclus 7. Infants bapt Infants vnder the tuition of the faith full are all within the couenant capable of Baptisme Examination THat al infants vnder the tuition of the faith full are all within the Couenant appeareth in Iehouahs pronunciate to Abraham I am thy god and the god of thy seede But no body douts that the faithfull theyr infants vndes the lawe were within the Couenant but how is it apparant● that their seede vnder the Ghospell is within the Couenant 1. Thus If the lawe who was but a whipping schoolmaster vnto Christ accepted of Infants then muth more the ghospell 2. Or thus whome God once in truth accepts them he neuer in truth reiects These two arguments can by scripture neuer be gaynsayde But to speake playner the former promise and couenant to and with Abraham and his seede is indeede ghospell and the strength of the Ghospell Galat. 3.8 from whence I thus reason 3. Whome the ghospell doth accept the ghospell doth not reiect except they will haue two Christs and two ghospells but cursed is he that so saith Gal. 1.6.7.8 And the Ghospell accepts as before etc. But the Catabaptist will not sticke to graunt Children of the kyngdome and within the Couenant still Yea the Anabaptisticall sort of them that all children in the world by vertue of the second Adam are within the Couenant but then they deny the seale of Baptisme vnto them all vntill they haue Actual faith Only here concerninge the infants of and vnder the custodie of the faithfull the former sorts of arguments that proue them to be within the Couenant ●o also proue that they are in infancie capable of the seale thus 1. If the lawe sealed infants to mercy then much more the ghospell 2. If God once accepted of infants to the seale of mercy then etc. 3. If the Ghospell once sealed infants it euer sealeth such infants except the ghospell and christ the foundation of the ghospell be yea and nay But this is false 2. Corrinth 1.20 Obj. Not being able to giue direct answer to these arguments they thus wrangle Som may bewithin the Couenant and yet vnsealed for femals vnder the lawe were within the Couenant yet vnseald Ans. To omit this that femals were then sealed in the Male vntill a virgin femall had brought forth a Male for recouering that which Heuah lost for who knoes not that she was of Adams bone and was also called Adam to passe by that what ryme or reason is there in this argument Som infants haue bene within the couenant vnseald therfore all infants within the couenant are to be vnseald In Cambridge this wold be called Tom Skuls argument Som haue therfore all are From Som to Som may be som conseqution or from All to som. If because som then within the covenant were vnsealed now som within the Couenant are to be vnsealed then we pray them le● the seede of vnbeleiuers whome they say are within the couenant be those Som that are to be vnsealed Obj. For want of matter they giue vs moe words and say Circumcision was a sacrament of works but Baptisme a sacrament of Faith Ans. Lyke lips like lettuce for our sauiour saith that Circumcision was not of Moses but of the fathers Ioh. 7.22 and blessed Paul saith that Circumcision sealed faith Rom. 4.11 and in the 13. vers that it sealed that promise that was not by the Lawe that is by the works of the lawe but by fayth And the tyme of the guifte therof vz after he beleiued not after he wrought makes the case playner Obj. Ey saith the blynd Catabaptiste after Faith they sholde be seald because Baptisme seales faith Ans. So Paul hath taught that Circumcision only sealed Faith yet I trowe it also sealed Infants of the faithfull that yet professed no faith but in and by the Parent And therfore Abrahams children had faith Actuall in the Parent of whose loynes they were vntill they Apostated by rebellion and faith imputed vnto them Hauing no reason they first ask why the first day is not still kept Secondly what one president we haue in the newe testament of an infant baptized First for the day I answer That externall ceremonie is put away togither with thexternall signe Circumcision The day and the signe came in togither no maruel then if they depart togither Secondly no man demeth it symply vnlawfull to baptise the 8. day Thirdly if that 8. day was partly a figure of the day after the 7. wherin our Christ rose for our iustification which is in a sense the 8. day Ioh. 20.26 and so therewithall of our lords day it may then teach that the lords church prouided they be not in the vnconstituted wildernes it is that being the speciall day of Convocation to be obserued for Baptisme For the other question I will first answer with another question Is nothing warrantable wherof there is not direct and expresse warrant in the new Testament Indeed such teachers flatly reiect the old testament May a man marry with his syster No. How proues thow that by the new testament The 1. Cor. 5.1 is of a mother and I talke of a syster It may be that that Incestuous person was one of these madding spirits that thought nothing of the old might stand with the Newe without expresse warrant in the newe Secondly it is saide the whole housholde was baptised Act. 16.15 et 33. as it is said that all Abrahams houshold was circumcised Gen. 17.23.27 the one ey looking to the other for likenes of speach and action shal we thincke that there was no infant nor anie one but could professe true faith It is absurd Nay the Apostle telleth the Iaylor plainly that if himself beleiue his whole houshold that is such as were vnder his tuition were within the compasse of saluation He doth not say If thou and all thyne houshold belieue but If thow beleiue And indeed so it was with Abraham he beleiuinge the lord looked not if his houshold beleiued togither with him his whole housholde was sealed 1. Let the Catabaptists knowe therfore that with Herods servants
so your brother in that though not in other things Conclus 12. That is to vs a true visible Christian church 1. Gathered 2. Established 3. Absolute in her parts which consisteth of a companie of people beleuinge Christ Iesus the son of God by the holy ghosts ouershadowinge to be com in our nature for the perfect saluation therof buildinge vpon that foundation c. as in the 1. Conclus such a people Gathered togither in the name of Christ are 1. a Church gathered 2. such a people entringe into Couenant of spirituall buildinge togither is a church established 3. such a people enjoyinge theyr howse Officers is a church absolute in her partes Examination THis Conclusion t●●ching the visible Church of Christ doth seuer it self into thre Considerations which by ignorant men not discerned they confusedlie speake of a Church as of other Things First into a Church gathered Sec. into a Church gathered and established Thirdly into a Church gathered established and absolute IN the 1. Conclus we haue described a visible true Christian now we affirme that a Compaine of such people so beleiuinge and obayinge being now Gathered togither in the power of their Christ are to vs a true visible church in the first sence Sec. ●hey so gatheringe and couenanting are a Church in the second sence Thirdly they so gatheringe couenantinge and possessinge their proper officers they are a Church in the third sence In wihich sence of the thre soeuer we speake of it still propoundeth vnto vs One sort of people such beleiuers and Obayers wherof the true visible Church of Christ can be saide to consiste of And suerly the former Notes or marks do propounde vnto vs more certainly which is a true church then the Common receiued Marks of Preachinge Sacraments discipline Becawse there may be a Church of Christ or a visible people of God where the said thre Murks are lackinge As also a people may enioy som of the said marks as true preachinge and yet be as far from a true visible church as was the Court of Festus and Foelix If we desire infallible notes of a true people we must haue such Notes as Deliuer vnto vs the essentiall forme of a Church which is such a Marke as neuer can be lacking from the Church else Logitians knowe the Axiome breaks the heade of Kata Pantos etc. The Generall or Matter of a visible Church is People the Difference or essentiall forme is true faith with obedience as before where such Matter and forme meteth in Gue there is an house spirituall Act. 2.24.44 1. Ti. 3.15 the Efficient cawse wherof is God by the instrument Outward and inward the word and Spirit the final cawse in regard of God is God his glorie in regard of his Church their Saluation That such a people only do constitute a true visible body as the scriptures are open inough as also the Auncient writers so becawse our late men are so addicted vnto som late writers let them heare Mr. Cartwricht 1. Reply pag. 34. There be in the Churches of Christ no dronckerds nor whore mongres at least wich are knowē and Mr. Oud Fenner in his Meth. Theol. lib. 6. Cap. 1. Caetusille etc. That Companie speakinge of a particular Church so ordained ought to be pure from all pollution etc. Psa. 15. etc. 27.8 etc. 29.9 Isa. 4.4 1. Cor. 3.16 etc. 5.11 1. Tim. 3.15 Reuel 1.13.20 and harken vnto Doct. Bilson in his priuiledged booke perpet Gouernm cap. 10. pag. 155. To the first Churches came none but such as were willinge and Zelous without all compulsion by Comminge I charitablie vnderstande Comming into Communion To ours com all sortes Atheistes hypocrits and how many forced rather by law then led by Deuotion Yea wold to god it di● not often so fall out that in many places the richer and weal●hier men either regard no religion or secretly leane To the worst All whith teach what kynde of people are to be receiued 2. are to be retained in spirituall Comunion or Church fellowship And indeed we se that the blessed ministrie of the Ghospell was first the ax that hewed these liuing stones for our Salomons temple as also that when anie stone burst out into spirituall defection or backslidinge it was either presently cured and faster mortized by repentaince or else it was thrust out of peculiar communion vntill by the ax of excommunication the rough things were made smooth and the hawtie things humbled 1. Cor. 1.5.11 with 2. Cor. 2.7.8.9.10.110 Such a people therfore gathering and thus couenantinge to walke are a Church gathered and established only to the absolutinge or perfectinge of this Churches Order there is required further an election and Ordination of Officers As a litle Citie compact in it self it must out of it self or by the coassistaunce of som syster-church make choise of meete men for the ouersight and seruice of the Citie or howse of god Otherwise if there be no king in Israel euery man will do that which is good in his owne eyes euery man wilbe a prophet in his owne conceipt Iack Cade wilbe Lord Mortymer and Hobbinoll set as good a glosse on scripture as he that was brought vp at the feete of Gamaliel flat Akephalistes A while without officers they may happely walke well but longe speciallie after they haue fit men and meanes they are not like to stand orderli togither without such instalment of officers The Officers are of two sortes Bishops in english ouerseers and Deacons in english Ministers or Seruitours 1. Tim. 3.1.8 Philip. 1.1 Vnder the terme Episcop Ouerseer is contained Pastor Doctor Elder vnder the terme Deacon is contained 1. the Ministeriall Man wherof specially before 2. the Ministeriall woman Rom. 16.1 1 Tim. 5.9.10 These must holde the mysterie of the faith in a pure conscience And in the former there is required of absolute Necessitie aptnes to teach and ability to confute errours Such the Pastor and Doctor euery one graunts must be and such the other Elders must be as I haue proued in my Bybles breife As for the vnderstandinge of 1. Tim. 5.17 euerie of whose sences is to be preferred before the dreame of Lay elders do looke into D. Bilsons forsaid booke A plaine print of the footesteps of preaching Presbyters or Elders se in all auncient writers theologicall and historicall and that whersoeuer they mention presbyters in a church vnder the Episcop or Pastor they must be vnderstood such Elders commonly translated Preistes If al Levies lips were to preserue knowledge how much more was the lawe to be fetcht from Kohaths Leuits which were ioyned with the Cheife preist in the worke of Ouerseinge and peculiar gouernment The Preist dyinge another came into his roome out of Kohaths familie so the Episcop or Pastor dyinge one shold speciallie if not only arise out of the same Ouerseinge familie of Elders and how shall this be answerable if the Elders be lay-men or men but of priuate qualification Let therfore our other