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A12482 An answer to Thomas Bels late challeng named by him The dovvnfal of popery wherin al his arguments are answered, his manifold vntruths, slaunders, ignorance, contradictions, and corruption of Scripture, & Fathers discouered and disproued: with one table of the articles and chapter, and an other of the more markable things conteyned in this booke. VVhat controuersies be here handled is declared in the next page. By S.R. Smith, Richard, 1566-1655. 1605 (1605) STC 22809; ESTC S110779 275,199 548

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because_o i_o will_v give_v he_o all_o the_o scoape_n he_o can_v ask_v i_o admit_v that_o by_o sin_n s._n john_n understand_v all_o kind_n of_o actual_a sin_n and_o deny_v as_o many_o catholic_n do_v that_o anomia_fw-la iniquity_n be_v take_v for_o wickedness_n and_o perfect_a transgression_n of_o the_o law_n but_o general_o as_o it_o be_v common_a to_o perfect_a transgression_n and_o only_o swerve_v from_o the_o law_n now_o let_v we_o see_v how_o bel_n improve_v this_o 3._o his_o first_o proof_n be_v because_o arias_n montanus_n ●_o pag._n 52._o arias_n montan_n 1._o io._n ●_o say_v that_o anomia_fw-la be_v transgression_n of_o the_o law_n but_o this_o be_v not_o against_o we_o because_o we_o grant_v that_o it_o may_v signify_v so_o only_o we_o deny_v that_o to_o be_v the_o proper_a signification_n of_o the_o word_n as_o be_v evident_a by_o the_o etymology_n thereof_o which_o be_v as_o much_o as_o sine_fw-la lege_fw-la without_o the_o law_n and_o not_o contra_fw-la legem_fw-la 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