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who_o the_o lord_n have_v bring_v out_o of_o the_o antichristian_a babylon_n and_o assyria_n that_o we_o may_v eat_v the_o lord_n supper_n and_o enjoy_v other_o his_o ordinance_n without_o any_o new_a baptise_v with_o water_n the_o bill_n of_o divorce_n he_o 69._o expound_v to_o be_v the_o put_n of_o they_o out_o of_o the_o land_n of_o canaan_n as_o out_o of_o the_o lord_n house_n or_o presence_n from_o hos._n 9_o 3._o 15._o 17._o 2_o king_n 13._o 23._o a_o woman_n divorce_v be_v term_v he_o say_v one_o that_o be_v cast_v out_o or_o thrust_v forth_o out_o of_o her_o husband_n house_n ezek._n 44._o 22._o thus_o some_o think_v excommunicat_o to_o have_v a_o bill_n of_o divorce_n etc._n etc._n and_o then_o also_o they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v esteem_v as_o put_v out_o of_o the_o covenant_n of_o the_o lord_n but_o from_o his_o house_n and_o family_n till_o they_o repent_v so_o as_o upon_o their_o repentance_n they_o ought_v to_o be_v receive_v again_o into_o the_o lord_n house_n without_o 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by_o the_o liberty_n thereupon_o follow_v that_o she_o may_v marry_v another_o man_n three_o by_o the_o just_a cause_n thereof_o which_o be_v whoredom_n math._n 19_o 9_o four_a by_o the_o consequent_a thereof_o that_o a_o man_n have_v so_o put_v away_o his_o wife_n for_o whoredom_n he_o also_o may_v without_o danger_n of_o adultery_n marry_v a_o other_o woman_n which_o can_v be_v unless_o the_o covenant_n of_o marriage_n be_v disannul_v mat._n 19_o 5._o 9_o five_o it_o be_v confirm_v by_o the_o copy_n of_o the_o bill_n of_o divorce_n use_v in_o the_o common_a wealth_n of_o israel_n as_o appear_v by_o their_o ancient_a record_n in_o these_o word_n 9_o in_o such_o a_o day_n of_o the_o week_n &c_n &c_n i_o n._n the_o son_n of_o n._n have_v voluntary_o &c_n &c_n dismiss_v &_o leave_v and_o put_v away_o thou_o even_o thou_o n._n the_o daughter_n of_o n._n etc._n etc._n which_o have_v be_v my_o wife_n heretofore_o but_o now_o i_o dismiss_v thou_o and_o leave_v thou_o and_o put_v thou_o away_o that_o thou_o may_v be_v free_a and_o have_v power_n over_o thy_o own_o soul_n to_o go_v away_o to_o be_v marry_v to_o any_o man_n who_o thou_o will_v &c._n &c._n six_o it_o be_v testify_v by_o the_o apostle_n write_v to_o the_o israelite_n the_o stranger_n scatter_v throughout_o pontus_n galatia_n &c_n &c_n 1_o pet._n 1._o 1._o and_o say_v to_o they_o which_o in_o time_n past_o be_v not_o a_o people_n but_o be_v now_o the_o people_n of_o god_n which_o have_v not_o obtain_v mercy_n but_o now_o have_v obtain_v mercy_n 1_o pet._n 2._o 10._o whereby_o it_o be_v evident_o prove_v that_o their_o divorce_n be_v from_o the_o lord_n and_o from_o be_v his_o people_n or_o partaker_n of_o his_o mercy_n in_o