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A14184 A demonstration of the trueth of that discipline which Christe hath prescribed in his worde for the gouernment of his Church, in all times and places, vntill the ende of the worlde Wherein are gathered into a plaine forme of reasoning, the proofes thereof; out of the scriptures, the euidence of it by the light of reason rightly ruled, and the testimonies that haue beene giuen therevnto, by the course of the churche certaine hundredths of yeares after the Apostles time; and the generall consent of the Churches rightly reformed in these latter times: according as they are alleaged and maintained, in those seuerall bookes that haue bin written concerning the same. Udall, John, 1560?-1592. 1588 (1588) STC 24499; ESTC S103026 63,031 134

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the_o execution_n of_o any_o discipline_n and_o therefore_o of_o this_o point_n belong_v unto_o the_o eldership_n which_o point_n be_v prove_v in_o the_o several_a chapter_n go_v before_o so_o that_o i_o need_v not_o say_v any_o thing_n of_o this_o save_v with_o a_o reason_n or_o twain_o to_o show_v the_o necessity_n and_o benefit_n of_o it_o in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n 1_o that_o which_o private_a man_n offend_v be_v command_v to_o seek_v unto_o for_o the_o redress_n of_o the_o offender_n be_v a_o necessary_a &_o a_o ordinary_a way_n for_o the_o amendment_n of_o they_o that_o do_v offend_v in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n but_o such_o be_v the_o admonition_n of_o those_o that_o be_v in_o authority_n and_o carry_v the_o name_n of_o the_o church_n matth._n 18._o 15._o see_v chap._n 14._o and_o the_o 1._o proposition_n of_o the_o same_o therefore_o admonition_n in_o such_o case_n by_o the_o eldership_n be_v a_o necessary_a and_o ordinary_a way_n for_o their_o amendment_n that_o do_v offend_v 2_o that_o which_o be_v more_o avaylable_a to_o bring_v the_o offender_n to_o repentance_n then_o private_a admonition_n either_o by_o one_o or_o more_o that_o same_o be_v very_o profitable_a &_o necessary_a in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n but_o such_o be_v the_o public_a admonition_n by_o the_o governor_n of_o the_o church_n as_o appear_v by_o this_o that_o christ_n make_v it_o a_o remedy_n when_o the_o other_o two_o will_v not_o prevail_v mat._n 18._o 15._o therefore_o it_o be_v very_o profitable_a and_o necessary_a in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n 3_o that_o which_o make_v man_n more_o afraid_a to_o offend_v than_o any_o admonition_n that_o private_a man_n can_v give_v be_v profitable_a &_o necessary_a in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n but_o such_o be_v the_o eldership_n before_o who_o man_n know_v they_o shall_v be_v bring_v if_o they_o do_v not_o amend_v therefore_o it_o be_v very_o profitable_a and_o necessary_a in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n 4_o that_o which_o have_v a_o great_a promise_n to_o do_v good_a then_o private_a admonition_n be_v very_o necessary_a in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n but_o such_o be_v the_o admonition_n that_o be_v give_v by_o the_o eldership_n because_o it_o prevayl_v when_o the_o former_a do_v not_o therefore_o it_o be_v profitable_a in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n 5_o that_o without_o which_o all_o duty_n of_o charity_n can_v be_v exercise_v towards_o sinner_n be_v needful_a to_o be_v in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n but_o without_o admonition_n by_o the_o eldershipp_n all_o duty_n of_o charity_n can_v be_v exercise_v towards_o sinner_n therefore_o it_o be_v needful_a to_o be_v in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n 6_o that_o which_o will_v bridle_v the_o outrageous_a sin_n of_o some_o and_o keep_v in_o the_o derision_n and_o mockery_n that_o private_a admonition_n do_v receive_v be_v needful_a to_o be_v in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n but_o this_o will_v admonition_n by_o the_o eldershipp_n do_v for_o if_o man_n know_v that_o they_o shall_v answer_v unto_o the_o church_n for_o their_o ill_a demeanour_n to_o they_o that_o rebuke_v they_o for_o sin_v they_o will_v refrain_v at_o least_o for_o fear_n from_o such_o kind_n of_o outrage_n therefore_o it_o be_v needful_a to_o be_v in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n therefore_o see_v public_a admonition_n before_o the_o eldership_n be_v to_o be_v seek_v conclusion_n by_o those_o that_o be_v offend_v and_o can_v be_v satisfy_v see_v it_o be_v more_o avayleable_a than_o private_a admonition_n see_v it_o make_v man_n more_o afraid_a to_o offend_v see_v it_o have_v a_o great_a promise_n see_v without_o it_o all_o duty_n of_o charity_n can_v be_v exercise_v towards_o the_o sinner_n last_o see_v it_o will_v bridle_v the_o outrageous_a sin_n of_o many_o therefore_o it_o must_v needs_o follow_v that_o it_o be_v very_o profitable_a and_o necessary_a to_o be_v in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n chap._n 18._o those_o that_o be_v not_o reclaim_v from_o their_o fault_n by_o admonition_n be_v by_o the_o eldership_n to_o be_v suspend_v from_o the_o lord_n supper_n or_o be_v officer_n of_o the_o church_n from_o the_o execution_n of_o their_o office_n until_o they_o do_v either_o give_v good_a testimony_n of_o their_o amendment_n or_o just_a cause_n to_o be_v further_o proceed_v against_o neither_o be_v there_o any_o controversy_n betwixt_o they_o and_o we_o about_o this_o point_n save_v that_o as_o in_o the_o former_a they_o will_v deny_v it_o to_o appertain_v to_o the_o eldership_n which_o be_v prove_v before_o i_o will_v therefore_o for_o their_o understanding_n that_o desire_n direction_n in_o the_o truth_n first_o show_v that_o it_o be_v a_o course_n that_o have_v warrant_n in_o the_o scripture_n second_o that_o it_o be_v of_o very_o profitable_a use_n in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n the_o first_o be_v thus_o prove_v 1_o whatsoever_o be_v enjoin_v down_o as_o a_o duty_n to_o be_v do_v by_o every_o christian_n if_o he_o leave_v it_o undo_v he_o be_v to_o be_v compel_v by_o the_o governor_n of_o the_o church_n to_o do_v it_o luke_n 14._o 17._o 23._o but_o if_o a_o man_n brother_n have_v any_o thing_n against_o he_o &_o he_o make_v no_o conscience_n to_o leave_v his_o gift_n there_o &_o be_v first_o reconcile_v matth._n 5._o 24._o he_o be_v to_o be_v compel_v to_o do_v it_o therefore_o separation_n from_o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v warrant_v by_o the_o word_n 2_o if_o that_o commandment_n of_o christ_n matth._n 7._o 6._o give_v not_o that_o which_o be_v holy_a unto_o dog_n can_v neither_o be_v proper_o understand_v of_o they_o that_o be_v never_o of_o the_o church_n nor_o they_o that_o be_v excommunicate_v then_o be_v it_o a_o warrant_v for_o such_o separation_n of_o the_o unworthy_a and_o consequent_o that_o separation_n be_v warrant_v in_o the_o word_n but_o the_o former_a be_v true_a as_o appear_v by_o this_o that_o the_o mean_a of_o the_o jew_n do_v know_v that_o holy_a thing_n belong_v to_o neither_o of_o they_o and_o so_o the_o commandment_n have_v 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the_o church_n can_v not_o without_o great_a offence_n suffer_v he_o that_o have_v commit_v a_o open_a sin_n though_o he_o repent_v or_o that_o be_v vehement_o suspect_v of_o a_o notorious_a sin_n continue_v in_o the_o execution_n of_o his_o office_n until_o the_o congregation_n be_v satisfy_v last_o if_o the_o priest_n that_o be_v unclean_a or_o suspect_v of_o leprosy_n may_v not_o offer_v sacrifice_n then_o be_v it_o plain_a that_o both_o the_o separation_n of_o some_o man_n from_o the_o lord_n supper_n and_o other_o from_o the_o execution_n of_o their_o public_a function_n for_o a_o time_n be_v a_o thing_n warrant_v by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n the_o latter_a part_n church_n which_o be_v that_o this_o kind_n of_o suspension_n have_v a_o profitable_a use_n in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n be_v thus_o prove_v 1_o that_o which_o keep_v the_o godly_a in_o more_o careful_a obedience_n and_o keep_v in_o the_o hypocrite_n that_o they_o break_v not_o out_o be_v very_o profitable_a for_o the_o 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18._o 15._o therefore_o it_o may_v not_o be_v use_v but_o upon_o most_o weighty_a occasion_n that_o be_v in_o the_o case_n only_o of_o extremity_n when_o no_o other_o mean_n will_v serve_v the_o turn_n 2_o that_o which_o cut_v a_o man_n of_o from_o the_o church_n of_o god_n and_o give_v he_o over_o unto_o satan_n as_o one_o in_o a_o desperate_a case_n that_o same_o may_v not_o be_v use_v but_o in_o great_a extremity_n but_o such_o be_v excommunication_n be_v use_v according_a as_o god_n have_v leave_v it_o unto_o his_o church_n 1._o cor._n 5._o 5._o therefore_o it_o may_v not_o be_v use_v but_o in_o great_a extremity_n 3_o that_o which_o a_o man_n will_v do_v in_o the_o cut_n off_o of_o his_o hand_n or_o his_o foot_n that_o same_o must_v the_o church_n do_v in_o excommunication_n for_o it_o be_v the_o cut_n off_o of_o a_o member_n but_o a_o man_n will_v try_v all_o other_o way_n and_o will_v never_o cut_v of_o his_o hand_n or_o his_o foot_n until_o he_o see_v it_o incurable_a and_o ready_a to_o infect_v the_o other_o part_n of_o his_o body_n therefore_o excommunication_n may_v not_o be_v use_v but_o in_o case_n of_o great_a extremity_n 4_o that_o which_o be_v contrary_a to_o natural_a affection_n and_o work_v that_o which_o a_o love_a heart_n do_v tremble_v to_o think_v of_o that_o same_o may_v not_o be_v do_v but_o in_o great_a extremity_n but_o such_o be_v the_o excommunication_n for_o it_o deprive_v the_o party_n excommunicate_v of_o our_o love_n and_o throw_v he_o into_o the_o most_o wretched_a case_n that_o can_v befall_v unto_o man_n in_o this_o life_n therefore_o it_o may_v not_o be_v do_v but_o in_o case_n of_o great_a extremity_n therefore_o if_o excommunication_n be_v ordain_v of_o christ_n conclusion_n as_o a_o remedy_n only_o when_o all_o other_o help_n will_v not_o serve_v if_o it_o cut_v the_o party_n from_o god_n church_n and_o give_v he_o over_o unto_o satan_n if_o it_o must_v be_v proceed_v unto_o as_o a_o man_n do_v to_o the_o cut_n off_o of_o his_o hand_n or_o foot_n last_o if_o it_o be_v a_o work_n contrary_a unto_o the_o natural_a affection_n of_o man_n &_o effect_v that_o which_o a_o love_a hart_n do_v tremble_v to_o think_v upon_o then_o must_v it_o need_v follow_v that_o it_o be_v to_o be_v proceed_v unto_o only_o in_o the_o case_n of_o great_a extremity_n &_o after_o that_o all_o other_o mean_n have_v be_v use_v and_o do_v appear_v not_o to_o prevail_v the_o latter_a point_n which_o be_v that_o excommunication_n may_v not_o be_v do_v by_o one_o man_n proposiion_n but_o by_o the_o eldership_n the_o whole_a church_n consent_v thereunto_o be_v hold_v by_o we_o t._n c._n book_n 1._o page_n 183._o discipl_n ecclesiast_fw-la 130._o etc._n etc._n and_o deny_v by_o they_o whitgift_n page_n 662._o and_o their_o continual_a practice_n but_o our_o assertion_n be_v thus_o prove_v and_o their_o opinion_n and_o practice_n find_v to_o be_v erroneous_a and_o ungodly_a 1_o that_o which_o christ_n command_v to_o be_v do_v by_o the_o church_n may_v not_o be_v do_v by_o one_o man_n unless_o you_o take_v my_o l._n grace_n for_o the_o church_n as_o whitgifte_n do_v page_n 662._o which_o need_v no_o confutation_n but_o christ_n command_v that_o excommunication_n shall_v be_v do_v by_o the_o church_n matth._n 18._o 15._o therefore_o it_o may_v not_o be_v do_v by_o one_o man_n 2_o that_o which_o paul_n enjoin_v the_o church_n when_o they_o be_v meet_v together_o to_o do_v may_v not_o be_v do_v by_o one_o man_n but_o he_o command_v they_o to_o excommunicate_v the_o incestuous_a person_n when_o they_o be_v meet_v together_o 1._o cor._n 5._o 5._o therefore_o it_o may_v not_o be_v do_v by_o one_o man_n 3_o that_o which_o have_v need_n of_o great_a advice_n and_o great_a authority_n may_v not_o be_v do_v by_o one_o man_n but_o