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A67437 The history & vindication of the loyal formulary, or Irish remonstrance ... received by His Majesty anno 1661 ... in several treatises : with a true account and full discussion of the delusory Irish remonstrance and other papers framed and insisted on by the National Congregation at Dublin, anno 1666, and presented to ... the Duke of Ormond, but rejected by His Grace : to which are added three appendixes, whereof the last contains the Marquess of Ormond ... letter of the second of December, 1650 : in answer to both the declaration and excommunication of the bishops, &c. at Jamestown / the author, Father Peter Walsh ... Walsh, Peter, 1618?-1688.; Ormonde, James Butler, Duke of, 1610-1688. Articles of peace.; Rothe, David, 1573-1650. Queries concerning the lawfulnesse of the present cessation. 1673 (1673) Wing W634; ESTC R13539 1,444,938 1,122

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both_o deny_v flat_o the_o last_o accusation_n to_o have_v be_v true_a and_o complain_v that_o himself_o alone_o among_o the_o whole_a irish_a nation_n shall_v be_v force_v to_o mourn_v in_o those_o day_n of_o general_a jubilee_n for_o his_o majesty_n restauration_n and_o therefore_o pray_v my_o intercession_n for_o his_o majesty_n unparallelled_a clemency_n and_o mercy_n i_o return_v he_o the_o most_o comfortable_a answer_n i_o can_v but_o withal_o advise_v he_o to_o patience_n for_o three_o year_n more_o as_o also_o assure_v he_o that_o by_o that_o time_n i_o hope_v my_o intercession_n for_o he_o shall_v be_v effectual_a to_o rome_n he_o go_v write_v to_o i_o once_o or_o twice_o from_o thence_o see_v sect._n 6._o pag._n 14._o of_o the_o first_o part_n and_o stay_v there_o till_o the_o beginning_n of_o the_o year_n 1665._o when_o he_o return_v back_o to_o france_n and_o write_v and_o mind_v i_o of_o my_o promise_n and_o after_o some_o few_o exchange_n more_o of_o letter_n at_o last_o 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of_o due_a veneration_n to_o his_o memory_n now_o that_o he_o be_v depart_v this_o life_n and_o i_o hope_v in_o a_o place_n of_o happiness_n and_o glory_n before_o this_o time_n i_o never_o have_v any_o private_a difference_n or_o quarrel_n with_o he_o in_o my_o life_n nor_o he_o with_o i_o for_o aught_o i_o know_v nay_o i_o find_v always_o as_o some_o esteem_n and_o affection_n also_o in_o he_o for_o i_o so_o in_o myself_o i_o be_o sure_a no_o less_o to_o serve_v he_o where_o i_o can_v both_o unfeigned_o and_o affectionate_o as_o i_o do_v all_o along_o for_o many_o year_n in_o all_o occasion_n and_o yet_o until_o the_o year_n 1669._o a_o little_a before_o his_o death_n in_o france_n and_o his_o very_a last_o letter_n thence_o to_o i_o i_o never_o know_v of_o his_o have_v oblige_v i_o so_o much_o as_o he_o do_v hinder_v the_o
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