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A63227 The tryals of Thomas Walcot, William Hone, William Lord Russell, John Rous & William Blagg for high-treason for conspiring the death of the King, and raising a rebellion in this kingdom at the Sessions-House in the Old-Baily, London, on a commission of oyer and terminer held there for the city of London and county of Middlesex, on Thursday, Friday and Saturday, July 12, 13 and 14, 1683. Walcot, Thomas, d. 1683.; Hone, William, d. 1683.; Russell, William, Lord, 1639-1683.; Rouse, John, d. 1683.; Blague, William.; England and Wales. Court of Oyer and Terminer and Gaol Delivery (London and Middlesex). 1683 (1683) Wing T2265; ESTC R21861 139,903 84

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the Challenge they return either 60 or 80 And I presume your Lordship was attended with the Names delivered Sir Geo. Jeff. How many Names was delivered Mr. Atwood Above 100. L. Russel I had nothing of a Pannel delivered to me but some Names L. Ch. Just. There was never any formal Pannel delivered to any Person Accused The Copy of it is in Paper always L. Russel How can I know who to Challenge L. Ch. J. My Lord the Copy of it is in your hands your Lordship hath been deceived in this by not understanding the true Nature of these things if we were to give you a new one we could give you but such an one L. Russel I had no Paper from the true Officer L. Ch. Just. No but from your Servant Mr. Attor Gen. My Lord you will have cause to complain if they are not the same men we now shall call L. Ch. J. My Lord That Paper will guide your Lordship in your Challenges L. Russel My Lord I did not mind it I put it away My Lord with your Favour I must needs insist upon having a Pannel and that you will put it off till the Afternoon I have a Witness that is not in Town My Counsel told me it was never done or very seldome Arraigning and Trying at the same time except in case of Common Malefactors L. Ch. J. Mr. Attorney why may not this Tryal be respited till the Afternoon Mr. Attor Gen. Pray call the Jury L. Ch. J. My Lord the Kings Counsel think it not reasonable to put off the Tryal longer and we can't put it off without their Consent in this Case L. Russel My Lord 'T is hard I thought the Law had allowed a pretty deal of favour to a man when he came upon his Life How can I know to except against men that I never heard or saw one of them Cl. of Cr. You the Prisoner at the Bar those good Men that have been now called and here appear are to pass between you and our Soveraign Lord the King upon your Life or Death if you Challenge any of them you must speak as they come to the Book to be Sworn before they are Sworn L. Russel My Lord may not I have the use of Pen Ink and Paper Court Yes my Lord. L. Russel My Lord may I make use of any Papers I have L. Ch. Just. Yes by all means L. Russel May I have some body write to help my memory Mr. Att. Gen. Yes a Servant L. Ch. Just. Any of your Servants shall assist you in writing any thing you please for you L. Russel My Wife is here my Lord to do it L. Ch. Just. If my Lady please to give her self the trouble Mr. Att. Gen. My Lord you may have two Persons to write for you if you please L. Russel My Lord here hath been a name read that I never saw in the List of the Jury I had I heard Sir Andrew Foster called L. Ch. Just. He is not called to be of the Jury Cl. of Cr. Call Iohn Martin He appears L. Russel Are you a Freeholder of 40 s. a year I hope none are allowed in the Pannel but those that have Freeholds L. Ch. Just. There is no Pannel made in London by Freeholders we have very few Freeholders capable of being impannel'd because the Estates of the City belong much to the Nobility and Gentlemen that live abroad and to Corporations therefore in the City of London the Challenge of Freeholders is excepted L. Russel My Lord I thought it had been always so and the Law had been clear in that Case throughout England that no man ought to be tryed for his life but by those that have Freeholds My Lord I remember I read the Statute of 2 H. 5. where 't is positive that no Persons shall be Judged in cases of life and death but by those that have 40 s. a year L. Ch. Just. My Lord that Statute extends not to this Case Read the Statute Cl. of Cr. Whereas Perjury is much used in the City of London upon Persons c. L. Ch. Just. Is this the Statute your Lordship has read L. Russel This is not in the case of life and death L. Ch. Just. It is not my Lord. L. Russel That that I read is positive And if your Lordship will not allow of it I desire my Counsel may come and argue it for 't is a matter of Law and I can't argue it whether the Jury are not to be Freeholders Mr. Ser. Jefferies There is nothing mentioned in that Statute with relation to the City of London indeed but the necessity of the thing requires it Mr. Att. Gen. It will not be material 't is a collateral point for most of the Jury have Freeholds L. Ch. Just. Do you allow the Exception Mr. Att. Gen. No my Lord. L. Ch. Justice Therefore we must if my Lord stand upon it hear his Counsel My Lord we will hear your Counsel what Counsel do you desire my Lord L. Russel The Counsel that were allotted me L. Ch. Just. No you must have Counsel assigned by us The Counsel that was assigned elsewhere signifies nothing L. Russel Mr. Pollexfen Mr. Holt and Mr. Ward The said persons were called and came into Court L. Ch. Just. To the Counsel Gentlemen my Lord here desires Counsel you are here assigned as Counsel for my Lord Russel that is at the Barr 't is concerning a thing wherein he doubts the Law he would except to the Jury upon this account to the Poll because they have not Freehold within the City of London and he desires you may be assigned his Counsel to make it out that this is a cause of Challenge Mr. Att. Gen. 'T is a Case of Treason Mr. Pollexfen Mr. Ward We take it so Mr. Pollexfen My Lord Perhaps if we had more consideration of it we should speak more but if your Lordship pleases to hear us what we can say first we take it with submission at Common Law a Freehold was necessary to make a man Juryman But that which falls out in this case is the Statute of 2 H. 5. c. 3. which Statute I suppose is here in Court That Statute says this if you please I will quote the substance of it That none shall be admitted to pass upon any Inquest upon the Tryal of the death of a man except he have Lands and Tenements of the yearly value of 40 s. Now we are here I think within the words of the Statute and I take it to be no Question at all were we not in a City and County I think this would be no question upon any Tryal in any County at large The Statute does not make any exception or distinguishment between Cities and Counties at large but the words are general as I have opened them My Lord the Statute does also provide in cases of Freehold or 40 Marks Now my Lord to prove this Statute extends to London tho a City and County there are other
ought to be taken strictly it ousts the Prisoner of a Benefit and by parity of Reason if Treason be not mentioned your Lordship can't by Equity extend it to it when it only mentions inferiour Offences and takes away the benefit in lower Cases Like the Case of the Bishop of Winchester where the Statute set down D●an and Chapters and other Ecclesiastical Persons it shall not extend to Bishops because it begins with Persons of an inferiour Nature No more shall Murder and Felony extend to Treason But further the Statute only concerns Freemen for there is an express Proviso in the Case for in case any Knight or Esquire come to be Tryed in the Place he has his Benefit as before My Lord we are in this Case as in the Case not mentioned in the Statute we are not a Freeman of London My Lord there is another thing 7 H. 7. c. 5. Why there was not only requisite at the Common-Law that the Jurors had sufficient Free-hold but it was required it should be in the Hundred and Free-hold in the Wards in the City is the same with Free-hold in the Hundreds in the Country So that the want of Freehold in the Hundred was a good cause of Challenge So that I think it will hardly be denied but that a Jury that passes upon the life of a Man ought by the Law by the Statute and by the Judgment of the Parliament to have Free-hold Where is there then any Statute whatsoever that makes a difference in this Case between London and other Counties We are in the case of Treason we have taken our Exceptions and on behalf of the Prisoner at the Bar we pray the Challenge may be allowed Mr. Ward My Lord I shall be short because Mr. Pollexfen has observed these things so particularly already I observe the Statute of H. 5. is a general Statute and extends throughout the Realm Now when the thing is thus general there is no room to except particulars And in this case 't is within the very words of the Law if the words be so generally penned in the negative then we conceive there is no construction to be made upon them unless some subsequent Parliament alter it Coke's Institutes 157. where 't is said in Treason as well as any thing else upon H. 5. there shall be Freeholds If they have provided in Civil and other Criminal Causes it were strange that this should be Casus omissus but there is no construction against a negative Law For the Parliament taking care of the City of London as the subsequent Statutes say that he that hath 100 Marks shall pass in Civil Causes and then it says in Murders and Felonies and that only confined to the Freemen of the place does sufficiently explain the Law where 't is not altered by any subsequent Act therefore I desire the Challenge may be admitted Mr. Att. Gen. My Lord these Gentlemens Foundation is not good for they prove it not by any Books that at Common-Law it was requisite for a Juryman to have Freehold My Lord I deny their Foundation there is no such Law and at this day in all Criminal Cases where the Statute does not direct it as for Riots and other Informations for Misdemeanour there is no Law restrains them and they may be tryed by any men they have no exception against Then 2 H. 5. says None shall be admitted to pass upon the death of a Man I take it to extend to all Capital matters though it is pretty odly expressed for when a Man is accused of other Felonies and High Treasons 't is of the death of a man unless he have Lands or Tenements of the yearly value of 40 s. But I will take it as these Gentlemen do at this Time it not being so at Common-Law nor in other Criminal Cases but what are provided for by the Statute As to other matters of Felony and Murder no doubt there these Challenges are to be taken upon the Statute but not for Treason because the Statute of Queen Mary does expresly repeal that Statute and no Statute since takes away the force of that of Queen Mary that all Tryals for Treason shall be as at the Common-Law and according to this the constant practice in all Cities not only London where Persons have been Indicted for High Treason hath been There was never any such thing pretended Most of these Gentlemen have Freeholds but we would not have this point lost to the City of London so that the Statute they speak of and the Interpretations of the several other Statutes too are to no purpose for we say by Common-Law all Causes might be Tryed by any Persons against whom there was not sufficient Cause of Challenge and the Common-Law is by that Statute restored in this point Mr. Sol. Gen. My Lord I have little to say Mr. Attorney hath given a true Answer to it the Foundation does fail them It was not necessary at Common-Law for a Jury-man to have Freehold but then they must shew you my Lord it is altered and made necessary The Statute of H. 5. does not seem to extend to Treason but if it did 't is now out of doors by that of Queen Mary whereby all Tryals of Treason are reduced to the Common-Law This is that we answer they fail in their Foundation they do not make it out that it was necessary for a Jury-man at Common-Law to have Freehold Sir Geo. Jeff. My Lord I confess they have cited several Acts of Parliament and upon them lay their Foundation and draw Inferences from them But they will find that in several Acts of Parliament which they have quoted there is a particular regard had for the preservation of the constant Usage and Custom for Tryals within the City of London That notwithstanding several Acts of Parliament have in other places ascertained the value of Jurors yet they had still an Eye that the City of London should continue in its Usages I think it will be necessary to put you in mind of the Case of the City of Worcester It would be very hard say they because an Attaint does not lye in Criminal matters if you intend by that to have People of Ability 't is well known that the ablest People in the City of London have scarce any Freehold in it for that most of the Inheritances of the City of London remain in the Nobility and in Corporations Now in the Case of my Lord Russel he hath a peremptory Challenge to 35 and I think I may adventure to say there can scarce be 35 more that can call themselves Freeholders in London consider the Consequence then Treason should be committed in the City of London and there would not be enow in the City of London to try it In the Case of the Quo-Warranto brought against the City of Worcester to know by what Warrant several took upon them the Offices of Aldermen the Gentlemen at the Bar objected that it was reasonable that