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A67920 A discouerie of the true causes why Ireland was neuer entirely subdued, nor brought vnder obedience of the crowne of England, vntill the beginning of his Maiesties happie raigne; Discoverie of the true causes why Ireland was never entirely subdued Davies, John, Sir, 1569-1626. 1612 (1612) STC 6348; ESTC S109372 93,412 291

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diem with an encrease of the number of his Archers viz 360 Archers on horsebacke out of Lancashire at vjd a peece per diem and 23. Archers out of Wales at ij d. a peece per diem The earle of Staffords entertainment was for himselfe vi s. viij d. per diem for a Banneret iiij s. per diem for xvij Knights ij s. a peece per diem for 78. esquires xij d. a peece per diem for 100 Archers on horsebacke vj d. a peece per diem Besides he had the command of 24. Archers out of Staffordshire 40. Archers out of worcestershire six Archers out of Shropshire at iiij d. a peece per diem The entertainment of Iames earle of Ormond was for himselfe iiij s. per diem for two Knights ij s. a peece per diem for 27 esquires xij d. a piece per diem for 20 Hoblers armed the Irish Horsemen were so called because they serued on Hobbies vj d. a peece per diem and for 20. Hoblers not armed iiij d. a peece per diem The entertainment of Sir Iohn Carew Banneret was for himselfe iiij s. perdiem for one Knight ij s. per diem for eight squires xij d. a peece per diem for ten Archers on horsebacke vj d. a peece per diem The entertainement of Sir william winsore was for himselfe ij s. per diem for two Knights ij s. a peece per diem for 49. Squiers xij d. a peece per diem for six Archers on horseback vj d. a piece per diem The like entertainment rateably were allowed to diuers Knightes and Gentlemen vpon that List for themselues and their seuerall retinewes whereof some were greater and some lesse as they themselues coulde raise them among their tenants and Followers FOr in ancient times the King himselfe did not leuy his armies by his owne immediate authority or Commission but the Lords and Captaines did by Indenture Couenant with the King to serue him in his Wars with certaine numbers of men for certain wages entertainments which they raised in greater or lesse numbers as they had fauour or power with the people This course hath been changed in later times vpon good reason of State For the Barons and Chiefe Gentlemen of the realme hauing power to vse the Kings prerogatiue in that point became too popular whereby they were enabled to raise forces euen against the Crown it self which since the Statutes made for leuying and mustering of souldiers by the Kings speciall Commission they cannot so easily performe if they should forget their duties THis Lord Lieutenant with this small Army perfourmed no great seruice yet vpon his comming ouer all men who had Land in Ireland were by Proclamation re maunded backe out of England thither and both the Cleargy and Laity of this land gaue two yeares profits of all their Landes and Tithes towards the maintenance of the war heere only he suppressed some Rebels in Low Leinster and recouered the Maritime parts of his erldome of Vlster But his best seruice did consist in the well-gouerning of his army and in holding that famous Parliament at Kilkenny wherein the extortion of the souldier and the degenerat maners of the English briefly spoken of before were discouered and Lawes made to reforme the same which shall bee declared more at large heereafter THe next Lieutenant transmitted with any forces out of England was Sir VVilliam winsore who in the 47 yeare of King Edward the third vndertooke the Custodie not the Conquest of this Land for now the English made rather a Defensiue then an inuasiue war and withal to defray the whol charge of the kingdome for eleauen thousand two hundred thirteene pounds six shillings and eight pence as appeareth by the Indenture betweene him and the King remaining of Record in the Tower of London But it appeareth by that which Froissard reporteth that Sir william winsore was so farre from subduing the Irish as that himselfe reported That he could neuer haue accesse to vnderstande and know their Countries albeit he had spent more time in the seruice of Ireland then any Englishman then liuing ANd heere I may well take occasion to shewe the vanity of that which is reported in the Story of walsingham touching the reuennue of the Crown in Ireland in the time of king Edward the third For he setting forth the State of things there in the time of King Richard the 2. Writeth thus Cum Rex Angliae illustris Edwardus tertius illic posuisset Bancum suum at● Iudices cum Scaccario percepit inde ad Regalem Fiscum annuatim triginta millia librarum modò propter absentiam ligeorum hostium potentiam nihil inde venit sed Rex per annos singulos de suo Marsupio terrae defensoribus soluit Triginta millia marcarum ad regni sui dedecus et fisci grauissimum detrimentū If this Writer had knowne that the Kings Courts had beene established in Ireland more then a hundred yeares before King Edw. 3. was borne or had seene eyther the Parliament Rols in England or the Records of the Receits and yssues in Ireland he had not left this vaine report to posterity For both the Benches and the Exchequer were erected in the twelfth year of King Iohn And it is recorded in the Parliament Rols of 21 of Edward the third remaining in the Tower that the Commons of England made petition that it might be enquired why the King receiued no benefit of his land of Ireland considering he possessed more there then any of his Ancestors had before him Now if the King at that time when there were no Standing forces maintained there had receiued 30000. pound yearely at his Exchequer in Ireland he must needes haue made profit by that land considering that the whole charge of the kingdome in the 47. yeare of Edward the third when the King did pay an army there did amount to no more then eleuen thousand and two hundred pounds per annum as appeareth by the contract of Sir VVilliam winsore Besides it is manifest by the Pipe-Rolles of that time wherof many are yet preserued in Breminghams Tower and are of better credite then any Monkes story that during the raigne of King Edward the third the reuenew of the Crowne of Ireland both certaine and casuall did not rise vnto 10000. li. per annum though the Medium be taken of the best seauen years that are to bee found in that Kinges time The like Fable hath Hollingshead touching the reuennue of the Earledome of Vlster which saith hee in the time of king Richard the second was thirty thousand Markes by the yeare whereas in truth though the Lordships of Conaght and Meth which were then parcell of the inheritaunce of the Earle of Vlster be added to the accompt the reuennew of that earledome came not to the thirde part of that he writeth For the Accompt of the profits of Vlster