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A59090 The priviledges of the baronage of England, when they sit in Parliament collected (and of late revised) by John Selden of the Inner Temple Esquire, out of Parliament rolles ... & and other good authorities ... : the recitalls of the French records in the 4th. chap., also newly translated into English ... Selden, John, 1584-1654. 1642 (1642) Wing S2434; ESTC R10915 70,579 178

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That the King would declare the certainty of it But the answer of it is on●y As at other times c. A like petition and answer is afterwards under the same King in a petition touching the same thing under Richard the 2 it is supposed that all ought to pay but those which come in Parliament by summons by writ and do stay there at their own charges c. In a Petition afterwards it is supposed that the Tennants of such lands as were immediatly held of the Lords of the Parliament contributed not to those expences but it is complained against and the answer is only Let it be as at other times and if that any found himself agrieved he should have remedy in the Chancery yet by a Statute which is not in the Rols of three yeares before the Tenants of the Lords themselves shall pay for such lands as of late times they have purchased before being contributary To this belongs that in Fitzherbert The villaines of Lords which come to Parliament shall not be therefore contributary to the expences of the Earles which come to Parliament And to this purpose the Lords may by Letters in their own names command the Sheriffe that he distraine not their villaines THE SECOND kind of their Priviledges Priuiledges or speciall Rights that concerne the Barons that have place in Parliament as they are every one single in their private estates CHAP. I. Touching the Oath and Protestation upon Honour ALL Oaths being either promissory or assentatory and the first being that which binds to a future performance of Trust The second that which is taken for discovery of a past or present truth The first kind they as occasion requir'd used in taking the oath of all the Barons for the maintenance of the great Charter and the like was under King John and H. 3 as also swearing of the Lords in Parliamēt in the time of H. the 6. that they should not take parts in the great Controversie between the Earle Marshall and the Earle of Warwick and the oaths of divers Lords appointed for the keeping of the Parliament in 8 11 H. 4 where yet the Prince was not sworn being one of those appointed for the keeping of the ordinances Because of the highnesse and excellency of his honorable person As the words are in the Roll so under H. the 7. the Lords Spirituall and Temporal swoare in the Parliament to the Article of taking care for the preserving of the peace and under H the 8. to the Bill of Succession but under Richard the second the Arch-bishop of Canterbury challenged that neither he nor his predecessors were compellable to any oath but to the K. and this kind of Oath is frequently taken by such Barons as undertake the great Offices of the Kingdome and they are all liable to the like by their tenures by fealty and by Statutes of the Oath of Allegeance but of these kinds of Oaths for the Supremacy they are discharged by the first Statute that gives it and in the case of Essoynes wherein by the ancient Law the Essoiner was to sweare that the party Essoined should appeare at a certain day all Barons and B●ronesses were excepted from the Oath and instead of the Oath they put in surety Ratio vero diversitatis saith Bracton talis esse poterit ut videtur quod ita nobiles dignae personae in warrantizatione Essonii non per se jurabant sed per procuratores scilicet plegios suos Assentary Oaths are in Cases of tryall by 12 or 24 witnesses defendants which proceed by Bill and Answer Plaintiff●s examined in actions of debt brought upon arrerages of accompt in cases of tryall by 12 they are discharged of the Oath that is in cases of tryall of their Peeres in which they answer guilty or not guilty only upon honour for in other tryals they have no part but are exempted from being impanelled in Juries Nisi eorum Sacramentum adeo sit necessarium quod sine illis veritas inquiri non possit and thence was it that some Barons under Edward the first of the Marches of Wales refused to swear● before the Iustices of Oyer and Terminer upon an Enquiry to be made by them and others of certaine outrages committed by Cilbert of Clare Earle of Gloucester against Humphrey of Bohun Earle of Hereford and Sussex those Barons were Jo●n de Hastings John Fitz Raynold Roger de Mortimer Theobald of Weldon John Troger and ●efferey of Camvill to whom dictum est as the Ro● saith ex parte Regis quod pro statu ●ure Regis pro conservatione dignitatis Coron● pacis sua apponit manum ad librum ad faciendum id quod eis ex parte injungetur qui omnes unanimiter responderent quod ipsi vel eorum antecessores hactenus in hujusmodi casu ad praestandum Sacramentum aliquid coacti fuerunt And afterwards the Oath being offered them they answered every one by themselves quod nihil inde facerent sine consideratione parium suorum Barons being witnesses in Cases of witnesses Examples are that they give in their Testimonies only upon Honour IN the Courts of the Delegates in the 3 of E. 6 in the proceedings against Gardiner Bishop of Winchester upon a speciall Commission from the King the then L. Chancellor and Marquesse of Northum and the Earle of Wiltsh and Bedfora are examined only upon their honor or somtime upon alleageance or fidelity to God the K. and this was upon the speciall priviledg of such persons for both by the Civill Laws and Common no testimony is taken regularly but upon Oath In Chancery in a Case between Jeffery and Jeffery and in another between Blighton and Dantrey Thomas Lord Buckehurst under Queen Elizabeth delivers his testimony only upon honour In the Court of Chivalery under Rich. the 2 in the great Case between Sir Rich. Scroope appellant and Sir Robert Gravenor defendant touching matter of Armes the Attestations taken by Commission from John of Gaunt the Earle of Darby the E. of Northumberland the Duke of Yorke and the Earle of Arundell are for ought appeares without oath for whereas others are sworne the Entry of their deposition is Pray and requests according to the right of Armes by the procurator of Master Rich. Scroope to testifie and say c. And amongst others the Earle of Devonshire was examined by Commission by Iohn Kentwood who in the returne of his Commission and the depositions certifies the Court that hee had swore all the witnesses there being none of the Nobility but only the Earle in his returne who was not sworne but spake in the loyalty of his Chivalery But in the multitude of witnesses of this cause divers Barons are sworn as the Lord Poynings the Lord Scales the Lord Gray the Lord Ruthen the Lord Basset To every of which names in the attestations is
Ports of England Ibidem N. 21. ITem William Lord Latimer was impeached and accused by the vote of the said Earles of deceits extorsions g●ievances and other mischiefs by him and others of his faction and Covin during the time he stayed as well under our Lord the King in Brittaine when he was in Office with the King as otherwise in England the time that he was Chamberlaine and of the privie Councell o● the same our Lord the King First of all concerning that when the said L. Lat. had bin long Captain of Becherell and Officer of the late King Edward in Brittaine if before or during the peace or truce it was committed And thereupon it was proclaimed and published under the King through Brittaine that no English man nor other Forreigner shall take Wines Victualls nor other things of any persons Towns Castles nor of others except they pay presently for them nor shall they take or ransome any Person Town Fortresse or other place upon paine of what they may forfeit notwithstanding all which the said Lord Latimer and his Lievtenants and Officers caused to be taken by wrong and violence of diverse Gentlemen of the Countrey much wines and victuals to a great value without paying any thing and likewise ransomed many by oaths and in taking and receiving ransoms unto the summe of 4 millions and 3 thousand pounds whereof our Lord the King enjoyed nothing to the great dammage and villany of the King and oppression of his people and the said parts and against the Proclamation and defence aforesaid as in a letter made and sealed with the seales of many Lords of Brittaine cal●ed Ragman and sent into England to our Lord the King aforesaid more at large appeared but the said Ragman could not be found in any sort nor any man knew how to say in truth what become of it and yet he at another time was accused thereof that he had taken at Becherell and Plimoyson from thence unduly 153 l. w. of gold whereof the King had never any part nor any restitution made thereof and the parties from whom those summes were taken preferred a Bill in Parliament in forme as followeth It is to is to bee remembered that the proofes of parties that were ransomed at Becherell and Plymoison during the time of Truce have paid so much to Master John port-Constable of Bech●rell for the Lord Latimer and to William his sonne and to Hugh Middleton Receiver of the said Town or to the Lord Latimer departed out of Brittaine The yearly summe 40 Franks And likewise the said Constables William and Hugh have received of the ransomes of such as were wont to bee ransomed during the Warre more moneys than would have well payd all the Souldiers of the said Town The summe 50 Franks And likewise the said Countrey of Brittaine have paied to the said Constables William and Hugh for the death of divers Gentlemen liege men of our Lord the King that were killed upon the land of Britt●ine The summe 30 Franks And likewise the said Constable and William his son gathered upon the Countrey of Brittaine to send Monsieur Gakes from Plimouth dates to England The summe 12 Franks And likewise the said William for that he lost 20 Marks in the Isle of Garnesey in a Ship put a fane and ransome upon the said Becherell The summe 1000 Franks And likewise Robert Ravenstons boy had stollen stollen a h●lf salt-seller of silver and therefore the Land of Brittaine was ransomed The summe 2 Franks And likewise the said Constables William and Hugh Receivers of the said Town had received divers times for victuals sold as salt wine beefe and other commodities to the summe of 1000 Franks to the great losse of your poore liege-men and to the Town of Becherell For by these extortions which they had borne and sustained by the horrible necessity of the poore people and likewise of the Gentlemen was the said Town lost Wherefore they beseech our Lord the King and his Councell to cause the said Constables William and Hugh to come and answer the aforesaid receits so that our Lord the King may be served of that which belongeth to him and that your poore liege-men that were in the defence of the said Town may be paid their wages for the time that they were in the said Town if so it be your pleasure And likewise the said Lord Latimer was impeached by the Commons of divers loanes made to the use of the King without cause necessary to the great losse and and grievous dammage of the King and more especially of a loane that was made of late to the use of the King by the counsell of the Lord Latimer Richard Lions and others of his covin of 20 thousand markes where our Lord the King was obliged to his Creditors in the said Case to pay again 30 thousand marks and that was done by covin of the said Lord Latimer and others that were privy with the said Creditors to have part of the said Gaine and to be parties to the said deed or without answering the said loanes for it was furnished in speciall that the said money was the Kings own taken out of his Chamber or Treasury and also the proper money of the said Lord Latimer and Richard Lions who appeared as if oppressed by the said loane and also for that by like Covin between him and the said Rich. Lions for their singular profit gaine he had procured and counselled our L. the King to grant many Licences by Patents and Writs to cause a great quantity of Wools skins and Leather and other things to be carried to parts beyond the Sea other then to Callis against the Ordinances and defences made before time in that behalfe to the destruction of the staple of Callis and of the moneyage there to the great dammage of the King and of the Realme of England and hurt of the Town of Callis and likewise that by such covin done betweene him and the said Richard Lions for their singular profit he had caus●d to be put upon the wools skins leather and other marchandises of the Staple divers new Impositions That is to say of every sack of wooll passing other where than to Callis by such Licence 11 s. more against the Statutes and Ordinances thereof made and also for that by his singular profit and ill government betweene our Lord the King and his Realme they have had and suffered many other grievances losses dammages and villanies without number as the losse of the Towne of S. Saviour in Normandy of the said place of Becherell and of other Fortresses which might have been well saved and kept if the King had been well counselled And also concerning certaine Spies and other felons taken and imprisoned by the King and after delivered by the Lord Latimer of his own proper authority without the knowledge or pleasure of the King taking upon him and incroaching notoriously in doing these things upon the Royall power
Bishop of the same Ward and marriage made to the said William and surrendered to the said Iohn by the said William by durity and menaces bee fully restored to the said William and that the Enrolment of the release to the said Iohn by the said William of the same Ward and marriage also by durity and threatning made as by the said William in the Exchequer be cancelled voyde and holden for nought for ever saving all times to the King his right in time to come Ex. Rot. Parl. 50. E. 3. mem. 2. num 17. FIrst the said Richard Lions Merchant of London was impeached and accus●d by the said Commons of many deceits extortions and other evill deeds commited by him against our Lord the King and his people as well in the time that he had beene belonging to the House and Councell of the King as otherwise during the time that he was Farmor of the Subsedies and Customes of the King And more especially for that the said Richard by Covin had betweene him and some of the privie Councell of our Lord the King for their singular profit and advantage had procured and gotten many Patents and Writs of Licence to be made to carry great faith and credit whereby Skins wools and other merchandises were transported other where then to the Stap●e of Callis against the Ordinances an● defences made in that behalfe concerning the same before time in Parliament And for that he had imposed and procured to bee put upon Wools Skins Leather and other Merchandises certaine new Impositions without assent of Parliament and those Impositions and Taxes without permission of the King or of the High Treasurer of the Realme having not medlage therewith and it was said how hee uncertainly tooke ten shillings in one parcell and twelve pence in another parcell of every sack c. which mounted to a very great summe throughout all the time that hee had beene receiver or Treasurer and likewise of another new imposition of foure pence by him made and put upon every pound of money upon the Lumbards and other Merchants for a discharge by his owne proper Authority and without warrant and assent in Parliament or otherwise and the same imposition of foure pence the pound contrary to piety collected and kept as to the use of our Lord the King whereof hee payed nothing And also of divers loanes made to the use of the King without cause necessary and more especially of one loane which he newly had at London of twenty thousand markes where our Lord the King was bound to pay 30000. markes and that by the Counsell of the said Richard and others in the Kings Court who have covenanted with the receivers to have part of the gaine and to be parties secretly to the said loane the said Richard taketh the said money and afterwards gaineth by way of vsury of the King his Lord of whose Councell hee was before a great quantity of money in great dammage and deceit to the King and also many other extortions thro●ghout the Realme and so demeaned himselfe against his Councell Treasurer and receiver concerning the new impositions as otherwise taking upon him in all the said matters the Royall Power which was horrible to rehearse And also for that our Lord the King had beene debtor of Record to divers Gentlemen of many great summes of money so had the said Richard by the assent of other privie complices in the Kings Court of the said Covin caused many such accounts to be bargained and compounded sometimes for the tenth penny and sometimes for the twentieth or a hundreth penny and hath procured the King to pay the debts intire and so by such his subtilties and for his singular profits as well our Lord the King as the said debts are wickedly abused and more especially the Prior of Saint John of Ierusalem in England to whom the King was debtor of a certaine summe and the said Richard hath had twenty foure Marks thereof for Broakage to cause the said Prior to have payment of the remnant and another time of the Lord Steward to whom the King was also a debtor and the said Richard hath had of him by the same manner another great summe of money and so of many others in great deceit slander and villany to the King and his Court Whereunto the said Richard present in Parliament saith that as to all the said Loane made to the King of the twenty markes aforesaid hee is altogether without other fault and further saith that he at no time had profit or gaine nor tooke any thing at all of the Loane aforesaid nor of the said money nor in other things and that he was ready to prove by all wayes reasonable when they would demand of him and as to the said Impositions of ten shillings and twelve pence the sack of wooll c. 4. pence the pound of money he could not cleerely excuse himselfe that he had not so levied and collected and thereof taken money his part that is to say 12. pence of every sack of Wooll c. but that was hee said at the commandement of our Lord the King at the prayer and assent of the Merchants who demanded such Licence and as to the remnants of these Impositions he had wholy delivered them to the receiver of the Kings chamber and accountable is the receiver in the Parliament And the said Richard first of all collected the same having a Warrant by which authority he hath before shewed in Parliament under the Seale of the King himselfe and his Councell so to doe and thereupon were witnesses produced in Parliament that our Lord the King had expressed a day for the same And some Lords there present in Parliament were that knew not how or in what manner he was become in such office under the King and what is more that the King knew him not for his Officer and that amongst other Articles the said Richard made no answer wherefore the said Richard was awarded to prison during the Kings pleasure and distrained to fine and ransome according to the quantity of his trespasse and that he loose his freedome of the City of London and bee no more in Office under the King nor approach to the Kings Court or Councell and thereupon another time the said Richard was sent before the Lords of Parliament where it was said to him that it seemed to the Lords that his offences were so great and horrible that hee had not sufficient wherewith to make satisfaction and forthwith the said Richard submitted himselfe into the favour of the King his body his Lands Tenements goods and Chattells and willed and granted that his body goods and Chattells should bee at the Kings will to give and as to the Extortions done by the said Richard or his Deputies from the time that hee was Farmer of the subsedies or Customes as beforesaid it is ordained in Parliament that good Inquiry bee made by sufficient Gentlemen in all the
he was called to the King where hee found the Lady Alice Pierce Nicholas Currein and many other Knights Esquires which came with him and there it was rehearsed by the said Nicholas how the King had shewed favour to Richard Lions of his Tenements which were holden by the Earle of Cambridge and Master Thomas of Woo●stock and had given him a 1000. marks of his Treasury And as to that which was don the said Dame Alice Pierce prayed the same Mr. Allen that hee would declare to the said Earles the Kings will his chargings upon the blessing of their father to cease to extend the Tenements of Ma●ter Allen and that they doe it voluntarily if the King commanded them to doe so And forthwith at the instance of the said Alice the King commanded and it was also done And as to the Article of Master Nicholas Dagworth he saith that he knoweth nothing but that hee heard the said Lady Alice say many tim●s that it is not reason nor Law that the said Mr. Nicholas who was enemy to Master William Windsor should bee sent into Ireland to make Inquisition of him or against him Item Will Street late controller of the Kings house sworne in like manner and diligently examined saith that he was one day at Havering when William●f Yorke spake to the K. of William Windsor in presence of the Lady Alice Pierce for to disturb the passage of Master Ni●holas and the said Lady Alice said that it ●as not reason that one Enemy shoul● bee Iudge of another And moreover the said William Stre●t saith in his consci●nce that the said Lad●Alice was principall and motrix of the said cause as he verily beleeves And as to the Article of Richard Lions he knowes nothing before it was all finished Item John Beverill sworne in like manner and diligently examined saith that he heard not at any time the said Lady Alice speake to the King concerning neither the one Article nor the other and that she kept her selfe well from him that she spake nothing in his presence but hee thinks in his conscience that she was the promotrix in the said businesse for hee knowes no other which could have followed that matter and notwithstanding they were caused to come before the said Duke and the said Earles Mr. Robert Beauchampe Master Allen Buxall Master Iohn Burle Mr. Philip de la Page Mr. Iohn Foxley and Thomas Barre Knight Nich Currein Iohn Beauchampe of Holt John Beverly George Felborough John Salisbury William Street Pierce Cornewall Thomas Lurden Lolvin Legat Esquires of the house of the said late King Edward which doe say upon their oathes that the said Alice was principall promotrix to the said King at his Court a●Havering about the Feast of All Saints in the 50. yeare of his Reigne concerning that Article touching the revocation of the said Nicholas Dagworth and for that she was committed Item as to the Article touching Richard Lions they know well that the said Alice was well willing councelling and aiding to the said busines prevailing with the said King at Shee● in the moneth of May last past and for that she is found guilty in the same impeachment and the Lords of Parliament that were at Parliament when the said Ordinance was made remember that their intention was witnessed and bearing the force of a Statute and by the generall words whatsoever the said Alice may forfeit extend as well to the forfeiture of Lands and Tenements as goods and Chattells and all other possessions considering the dammages and villanies by her done to the King and to the Realme for that it was in effect to restraine and punish the said Lady Alice only wherefore it is awarded in this present Parliament that the said Ordinance have the force and effect according to the intent aforesaid that she be banished out of the Realm and her Lands and Chattels Tenements and possessions as well in demeane as in reversion be forfeited to the King and seised into his hand and it is the Intention of the King and of the Lords of the Ordinances assented to in the same Parliament that all the Lands whereof she hath taken the profit or bargained to her own profit be forfeited because of the fraud which may bee presumed in which shee is most abounding for which c●use the same sh●ll 〈◊〉 ●or●eited to the King and seised as the o●her Lands And it is the Intention of the King and of the Lords that this O●dinance and award made by the King for such odious things in this especiall case which may extend to a thousand other persons shall in no other case but this bee taken in Example Likewise it is ordained and assented that notwithstanding the said forfeiture if she purchased any Lands or possessions by fo●ce or dures Bee it by fine or by deed in pais or deed inrolled or otherwise that the purchase bee holden for nothing and that the parties which perceiv themselves aggrieved may have remedy by processe in Chancery and by advice of the GRANDIES of the Councell right shall bee done to the parties and restitution made according to the case demanded so that the purchases made bona fide be not made voide nor disanulled b● any manner of way Et istud rotulum sic factum scriptum tradidit libera● it Edmundus Bradwell Clericus de Corona c hoc in Parliamento assig Clerico Parliamenti Ex. Rot Parliam Anno 7. R. 2. N 11. ITem It is to be understood that the 23. day of May there was present one Iohn Cavendish of London pri●oner in this Parliament before the Commons of England in their Assembly in presence of some Prelates and Lords temporall there being and afterwards before all the Prelates and Lords being in this Parliament and prayed the Lords that for Go●s s●ke they would hasten for the peace and safety of his life that hee may have iufficient surety of the peace of those whe●eof hee complained and especially demanded surety of the Peace of Master Nicholas de la Poole Chancellor of England and this request to him was granted and thereupon by Commandements of the Lords aforesaid the said Master Nicholas there present found Sureties to be peaceable towards the said Iohn that is to say the Earle of Stafford and the Earle of Salisbury and the said Iohn rehearsed how at the last Parliament hee had made persuit by one Savill against Gibbon Mansfield Robert de Parry Iohn Hawkins and WILLIAM HORSMAN to have Restitution of certaine goods and marchandizes of great value left upon the Sea in default of the said Gibbon Robert John and William at the time when he had undertooke the safeguard of the Sea and of the marchandizes passing and comming from Sea for the time against all Enemies out of the power Royall which Bill was endorsed in the said Parliament he confessed and acknowledged in the Chancery for to discontinue and determine the matter by composition according to
Clerk upon his Oath made in the case had fully excused his Master the said Chancellor that hee was not knowing of the said Obligation nor of the Covenant aforesaid otherwise then before set forth And for that also his said Officers Gibbon Robert and William were personally in this Parliament and examined upon their Alleageances to say the Truth of their part in this case answered expressely that they never gave any thing nor promised to give reward to the said Chancellor in private nor openly by themselves or any other person in the World the Lords aforesaid ●old the person of the said Chancellor for excused of whatsoever was comprised in the Accusation aforesaid And thereupon the said Chancellor prayed againe to the LORDS there for that as well the said Fishmonger had disavowed his Accusation in part and for that he might every way be excused thereof for any thing that could appeare to the Iudgement of every discreet person which heareth the said Accusation that for those words which the said Fishmonger had put in his Bill he the said Fishmonger might be arrested untill he had found sufficient sureties to tender him that which should be adjudged upon this matter and especially upon the false slander aforesaid which he had drawn upon him And therupon it was commanded by the Lords That as well the said Fishmonger as the said Clerke should be committed and so they were committed to priso● 〈◊〉 ●fterwards they were let go at large That is to say the said Fishmonger by the maine-prise of Thomas Spicer a●d Steven Skinner who w●re obliged body for bo●y to have the said Fishmonger from day to day before the Lords aforesaid or before whatsoev●r Judges should be assigned And afterwards f●r that the Parliament was drawing to an end and the Lords were also greatly busied there amongst o●her great businesses of the Realm The said Suit by the Pa●liament with all things therof was referred to the Iudges of the Kings Bench to be heard and determined as well for our Lord the King as for the parties In Schedula Record fact apud Westminsterium per Justiciarios c. ET postea die Martis proximo post octab Trin. viz. 14 die Junii Anno regni Domini Regis R. 2. post Conquestum 7 Robertus Tresilian capitalis Justiciarius in Banco ipsius Regis Robertus Belknap capitalis Justiciarius in Communi Banco Roger Fulthropp unus Justiciarius in Communi Banco vigore Commissionis Parliamenti dicti Domini Regis apud Novum Sarum ultimo tento fact authoritate ejusdem Commissionis unde in rotulo Parliamenti predicti mentio facta est specialis contra quendam Iohannem Cavendish de London Fishmonger qui Parliamento praedicto primo viz. Coram communitate regni Ang. Congregat. postmodum alia vite coram magnatibus ejusdem regni in eodem Parliamento de Michali de Poole Milite Cancellario dicti regni Iohanne Ottre Clerico ipsius Cancellarii de diversis misprisionibus sibi per eosdem factis ut asseruit graviter querelavit ipsum Cancellarium per hoc multipliciter accusavit aefamavit processi in hunc modum Imprimis viz. ipsum Iohann Cavendish Coram iisdem Iusticiariis apud Westminst. dicto 14 die Iunii assedentibus sibi tunc ibid. Hugone Seagrave Milite Thesaurario Angl. Magistro Walter de Shirlawe Custode privati Sigilli Iohanne Wal●ham Custode Rotulorum Cancellariis nec non Waltero Clopton Willielmo Richell Iohanne de Lockon serviend ipsius Regis venire fecerunt qui ibidem comparens de accusatione sua praedict. fact in Rotulo Parliamenti praedicti plenius irrotuletur cujus mat●ria una cum responsionibus per Dominum Can●ellarium in eodem Parliamento adhuc in excusationem suam datis prout continetur in Rotulo praedic pro majore parte recitat coram ipso Iohanne de Cavendish tu●c ibidem allocatum fuit per Iusticiarios praedic super hoc quaesitum fuit ab eodem si quid haberet pro se vel ulterius dicere sciret quare ipse poenam in Statuto contra hujusmodi defamatores edito subire non debeat maxime cum Idem Cancellarius se in Parliamento illo excusavit omni alio modo possibili se inde excusare est paratus qui quidem Ioh. ad hoc respondebat dixit quod ipse nunquam personam dicti Cancellarii in Parliam illo defamavit nec aliquid sinistrum sive inhonestum de persona ipsius Cancellarii clam vel palam in Parliamento ille dixit vel alias affirmavit quovis modo sed dicit quod quicquid per eum in hac parte fuerit hoc solum de praefato Ioh. Ottre Clerico ipsius Cancellarii in ista materia factum sententia verborum suorum ac modo forma eorundem nec non responsionibus ipsius Cancellarii aliorum ex parte sua hinc inde factis dictis ibidem debite ponderatis ulterius haben●a respondit ad hoc quod ubi praefatus Ioh. Cavendish dixit quod Justiciam coram dicto ●omino Cancellario praedict. prout alius praedict. Cancellarius allegavit in eodem Parlia. clare constare debeat cui cunque discreto intelligenti quod idem Ioh. Cavendish per accusationem suam praedictam ipsum cancellar. in eodem Parliam false defamavit Per quod consideratum est quod praefatus Ioh. Cavendish super defamatione illa convincatur idem cancellar. recuperet versus eum dāna sua et quod Ioh. Cavendish praedict. committitur prisonae Domini Regis ibid. moratur quo usque tam preafato Cancellario de damnis suis praedictis quam dicto Domino Regi pro fine competenti sibi inde debito plenarie satisfecerit Rotulo Parliamenti Anno 10. R. 2. M. 4. 5. IN this Parliament all the Commons with one accord and in one assembly came before the King Prelates and Lords in the Parliament Chamber complayning grievously of Michael de la Poole Earle of Suffolk late Chancellor of England being then present and accused him by demonstrance of word of mouth in manner following that is to say First that the said Earle being Chancellor and sworn to do the profit of the King purchased of our Lord the King Lands Tenements and Rents to a great va●ue as appeares by the Records and Rols of the Chancery against his Oath in tha● behalfe not considering the great necessity of the King the realm And moreover because the said Earle was Chancellor in time of the said purchase made the said lands and tenements were extended at a lesser value than they were worth per annum by a great summe to the deceiving of our Lord the King ITem the said Lords were assigned at the last Parliament to view and examine the Estate of the King and Realme and to declare their advice how the same may bee well amended and
in North Dalton to serve for 7. yeares for fifty pound a yeare and that hee hath lost by the said Farme in the said time a 100. marks and further saith that the said Mannor with the ten markes of rent in Dalton altogether are extended as appeares in the Chancery but at 41. l. 9. s. 3. d ob And for that that the said Earle understands by the Earle of Kent who hath had the said two parts of the said Mannor together with the said ten marks at the value of 50. marks that the intire Mannor could not bee above the value of 50. pounds And further saith that the said Mannor with the ten markes are not worth more And that under a certain● paine saith that whatsoever person will sustaine the charges of the said Mannor sufficiently and pay him for the two parts 50. markes for aid and as to the third part bee it what it will let him give security to pay for the said Mannor with the ten markes of rent 50. l. per annum that hee will so lease it with all his heart ITem as to that impeachment of the Commons of a 100. pound pension out of the provision of Saint Ant●o●y and that the said Earle should sell the Lawes and put in an Example of Master William Thorpe c the said Earle answereth That the cases are nothing alike which the parties pleaded before the said Master William Thorpe as before their Iudge for the Lawes of England In which case no Iudges ought to take reward of any parties pleading before them But the s●id provision came to him with the help of Saint Pierce the Pope and not as a Chancellor or Iudge in this case but as Father and friend to John his son At which time a man knew not if the said Iohn had obtained it of the Popes favour or no Also faults were found by the Counsell of the said Earle in the Bulls of the said provision And from the same caus● the said Provisour by his friends of his owne accord profered an annuall Pension of a 100. and 60. pound for to leave suit in the Court of Rome by his said Sonne and for that hee should not impeach the Bulls that the matters before said were not done as before a Iudge but by way of composition as may bee prooved by instrument and by witnesses in this Towne and so this matter touched not the Lawes of England and alwayes the said Earle intended not but that hee should bee holden to answer to the party in this case And thereupon after the answers of the said Earle given to the Accusations of the said Commons and the replications to them made of one part and of another the said Earle at the request of the said Commons for the greatnesses of the defaults so of him surmised was arrested by Commandement of the KING and Commons in ward of the Constable of England and afterwards let at Liberty upon bayle And for that the said Earle alleadged not in his answer that hee observed the effect of his Oath in that hee swore that hee would not know nor suffer dammage nor disherison cleerely and expressely to the KING together with his owne lawfull advice and Councell and that hee should cause and purchase the profit of the KING by all that he could reasonably doe and hee held the premisses although hee were principall Officer of the KING knowing the Estate and necessity of the KING and of the Realme and did take of the KING such Lands and Tenements as is supposed in the Impeachment to him in the said first article surmised although he alleadged in his answer that the deeds to him so made were confirmed by full Parliament there is no such accord in the rolls of Parliament wherefore it is awarded that all the mannors Lands Tenements rents services fees advonsons reversions profits with their appurtenances by him so received of the K. ●e reseised reprised into the K. hand to have to hold to our L. the K. the lands chattells of the said E. from thenceforth is not the Intention of the K. nor of the Lords nor that this Iudgement extend in the Law to cause the said E. to lose his name and title of Earle nor of the 20. pounds a yeare which the King granted him to take of the Issues of the County of Suffolk by the name and Title aforesaid And moreover for that the said E. lately denyed that he was of the K. privy counsel when he demāded of the K. the said exchāge had acknowledg'd that before the exchāges performed hee was made Chancellor in which Office hee was bound by his Oath made in the forme aforesaid and hee so being sworne to the said Office tooke of the King the said 400. markes of Land by reason of the said Exchange agreeing to the said covenant of Exchange which hee also made before that hee was Chancellor in which Office hee was bound by his Oath And alleadged not in his said answer that the King gave him Mannors Lands and Tenements which are certaine and cannot very easily bee destroyed nor bee countervailed by the aforesaid 400. marks annuity which are leviable and demandable of the Customes and also as casuall and in divers cases there may losse insue It is awarded that all the Lands and Tenements so taken by the said Earle by the exchanges aforesaid bee resumed into the hands of our Lord the King to hold to him and his Heires in manner as hee held the same before the gift or deed in the said Exchange in which the Issues and profits aforesaid after the said exchange deducted if the said Issues and profits so taken after the Exchanges extend to a gr●ater value then 400. markes a yeare that then the King shall have the overplus of the Lands and chattells of the said Earle from thenceforth hereafter And it is therefore awarded that as well the said Mannor of Flaxflreet and the ten marks of rents aforesaid with the appurtenances bee reprised in the Kings hand to hold to him and his Heires as hee held the same before the gift to the said Earle so as the Charter the pardon and Confirmation of the purchase of the said fifty pounds of rent bee certaine in the hands of the King and his heires in firme as it was before the purchase and it was since to the said Earle and that the issues profits received or owing to the use of the said Earle as well of the said Mannor o●Faxfleet and the ten markes of rent as the Issues and profits of the said fifty pound of rent which he thereof had taken by reason of the purchase aforesaid bee levied to the use of our Lord the King of the Lands and Chattells of the said Earle from henceforth And as to the Article containing the Provisions of Saint ANTHONY for that the Master of the House of Saint Anthony in which the profits were taken as proved in England was a Schismaticke and taxed
for moving the King and power of France and by such repute as then and yet is taken to bee wherefore all the said profit ought to appertain to the KING as of a Schismatick and alien which thing of reaso● ought to have beene made known by the said Ea●le before hee demanded of the KING the said profit and hee k●ew expressely that hee demanded it for ●is sonne as an Hospitall and alleadged not in his answer that the King when hee granted the profit was informed of the matters aforesaid and also in that that when hee was such an Officer as beforesaid hee sent to the Court of Rome to have the same profit for his Sonne of the Collation of the Pope as benefice of the holy Church and to have also the profit out of the KINGS hand by the Sea Apostolicall as the Record termeth it and hee denies not that hee received of the said profits foure hundred pounds per annum alleadging that hee rendered to the KING the s●me and that after the said Earle had made a bargain● to have the provision which hee claymed of the said profit in England of the Pope a hundred pound per annum of the said provision to him and his Sonne John for term of their two lives for to deliver the said profit to the said provision for payment of which 100. l. to him and his sonne he tooke surety of the provision by recognizance and Obligations of divers summes notwithstanding that the King had commanded by his Letters to deliver all the profit aforesaid out of his hands to the said provision there where it seems for any thing that yet was shewn that all the said profit ought to have rested in the Kings hand for the causes aforesaid at least untill it had be●ne discussed whether the said profit were the benefit of holy Church grantable by the Pope or appurtenant to the K. by reason of Schismasie and endemnity of the said Master and he alleadged not in his answer that the King was cleerely informed of the matters aforesaid wherefore it is awarded that the said foure hundred markes per annum in time that the said profit was so granted to him by the King untill the time that hee delivered the same profit to the said provision as also the said 100. l. a yeare received also of the s●id provision untill the same bee levied to the use of our Lord the King of his Lands and cha●tells and that all the profit which should of late appertaine to the said Earle by reason of the said recognizance or of other Obligations and Covenants also made in surety of payment And as also to the 1000. marke● which hee had alleadged that he payed to the King for the said Exchanges It is awarded that the said 1000. markes remaining in the hands of the King as part of payment of the fine and ransome th●t the said Earle shall likewise make to the King before hee be delivered from prison Ex rotulo Parliamenti Anno 5. H. 4. N. 11. ITem Friday the last day of February the Earle of Northumberland came before the King and the Lords and Commons of Parliament and there the Chancellor of England shewed how on Tuesday last past hee had beene before the King the Lords and Commons in the same Parliament and there beseeched the King as hee had done at other times at his comming before him in Yorke that it would please our said Lord the King to grant him pardon of those things wherein he hath offended against him not keeping his Lawes and Statutes as Ligeance demandeth as by a Petition by him preferred in Parliament written in English whereof the Tenor ensueth may appeare more at large To my most Dreadfull and Soveraigne liege LORD I Your humble liege beseech your Highnesse to have in remembrance my comming to your Highnesse to have in remembrance my comming to your Worshipfull presence unto Yorke of my free will by your goodly Letters where I put mee in your Grace as I that nought have kept your Lawes and Statutes as liegeance asketh and especially of gathering of power and giving of Liveries as that time I put mee in your Grace and yet doe And I sent it like to your Highnesse that all gracelesse should not goe Wherefore I beseech you that your High Grace be seene on mee at this time and of other things which you have examined mee of I have told you plainely and of all I put mee wholy in your Grace WHich Petition by Commandement of the King examined by the Iustices for to have their Counsell and advice in this behalfe by Protestation made by the said Lords that the Iudgement appertained to them onely and after rea●ing and understanding of the same Petion before the Lords as Peers of the Parliament to whom such Iudgements appertaine of right to heare and understand by the Statutes made in the 25th yeare of the King that now is by deliberation of King Edward cozen of our Lord the King that now is they adjudge that those things which the said Earle hath don contained in the said Petition are not treason nor Felony but onely Trespasse for which Trespasse hee ought to make fine and ransome according to the Kings pleasure wherefore the said Earle most humbly reverenceth our Lord the King and the said Lords the Peeres of Parliament concerning the right Iudgement and further the said Earle prayed our Lord the KING that in affirmance of those matters hee might bee purged from all suspitions and prayed to bee judged de Novo in the presence of the KING and of the LORDS and Commons in Parliament the said Earle tooke his Oath upon the Crosse of the Arch-bishop to bee faithfull and loyall liege man to our Lord the King and to his eldest sonne and to the Heires issuing of his body and to his brothers and their Issue successesively and inheritably at which time if the King would command him hee should bee ready to shew and declare that which hee knowes in that he halfe and set forth the truth thereof And that our Lord the King might not bee deceived the said Earle was present and charged in his liberty the said Earle upon his Oath which hee had made upon the said crosse setteth forth and declareth openly in Parliament that which hee knoweth in this matter upon which charge to him given the said E. saith That at the day of Tryall of his life hee knew not of the Dukes and Bishops and other Lords any thing that ●ounded in derogation of the honourable estate of the K. and of his royall Majesty but that they were and are to him good and lawfull Lieges and that for such our Lord the King may hold and repute them and may faithfully put his trust in them in perill of his life and by the Oath which he● had made as before said And moreover the said Earle of Northamberland humbly beseeched the Lords and Earles and Commoners that they will beseech our Lord the
King of his grace towards him concerning the fine and ransome and if at any time he doe any thing against our Lord the King other then liegeancy that they make no prayer nor request for him in whatsoever ensueth thereon but that they be altogether against him And also the same Friday it was adjudged by the King and the Lords in Parliament that leave of Battaile be made by the said Mr. Henry Mr. Thomas which are holden to be guilty of Treason and that as well for themselves as for others which shall bee in their company at the time of the said licence And those to whom the King had granted favour and pardon the King will that they stand firmely in their force and vertue Ex rotulo Parliamenti Anno 31. H. 6. N. 26. ITem the Friday the 15. of February it was opened and declared to the Lords Spirituall and Temporall being in the Parliament chamber by the Counsell of the Duke of Yorke that whereas Thomas Thorpe the monday the first day of August in the raigne of Henry the sixt 30. cam● to the place of the Bishop of Durham and then and t●ere tooke and bore away certaine goods and ●attle of the same Dukes against his will and licence and thereupon the said Duke came and tooke an action by Bill in Mich Terme last past against the said Thomas in the Court of Exchequer according to the Priviledge for so much as the said Thomas was one of the Court to which Bill the said Thomas willingly appeared and had divers dayes to imparle at his request and desire and to the said Bill and action pleaded not guilty whereupon there was awarded in the said Exchequer a venire facias to the Sheriffe of Middlesex returnaeble in the said Exchequer and thereby the Iury that passed betweene the Duke and the said Thomas it was found that the said Thomas was guilty of the said trespasse contained in the said Bill and the same Iury assessed the dammages to the said Duke of the said trespasse to a 1000. l. and for his costs 10. l. And thereupon Iudgement was given in the said Exchequer and the said Thomas ac●●rding to the ●ourse of the Law was committed to the Fleete for the fine belonging to the King in that behalfe And thereupon it was prayed humbly on the behalfe of the said Duke that it should like their good Lordships considering that the said Trespasse was done and committed by the said Thomas since the beginning of the present Parliament And also the said Bill and action were taken and scanned and by processe of Law Iudgement given thereupon against the said Thomas in time of vacation of the said Parliament and not in Parliament-time and also that if the said Thomas should bee relieved by priviledge of Parliament ere the time that the said Duke bee satisfied of his said dammages and costs the said Duke should bee without remedy in that behalfe That the said Thomas according to the Law bee kept in ward according to the time that he have fully satisfied and contented the said Duke of his dammages and costs the said Lords Spirituall and Temporall not intending to impeach or hurt the liberties and priviledges of them that were come for the Commons of this Land in this pr●sent Parliament but equally af●er the course of the Law to minister Iustice and to have knowledge what the Law will weigh in that behalfe opened and declared to the Iudges the premisses and asked of them whether the said Thomas ought to be delivered from prison by force and vertue of the priviledges of Parliament or no To the which Question the chiefe Iustice in the name of all the Iustices after some Communication and mature deliberation had among them answered and said that they ought not to answer to that question for it hath not beene used aforetime that the Iudges should in any wise determine the Priviledges of this High Court of Parliament for it is so high and mighty in his nature that it may make Law and that which is Law it may make no Law and the determination and knowledge of that priviledge belongs to the Lords of Parliament and not to the Iudges But as for the Declaration of proceedings in the lower Courts in such cases as Writs of Supersedias of priviledge of Parliament to bee brought and delivered to the said chiefe Iustice hee said there be many and divers Supersedeas of priviledge of Parliament brought into the Courts but there is no generall Supersedias brought to surcease all processe but if there should bee it should seeme that this high Court of Parliament that ministreth all Iustice should let the proces of the common Law and so it should put off the party complaynant without remedy for so much as actions of common law be not determined in this high Court of Parliament and if any person that is a member of this high Court of Parliament bee arrested in such cases as be not for felony or Treason or security of the peace or for condemnation had before a Parliament it is used that all such persons should be released of all such arrests and make an Attourney so that they may have their freedome and liberty freely to attend the Parliament After which answer and declaration it was throughly agreed assented and concluded by the Lords Spirituall and Temporall that the said Thomas according to the Law should remaine still in prison for the causes above said the priviledge of Parliament or that the said Thomas was Speaker of the said Parliament notwithstanding and that the Premisses should be opened and declared to them that were common for the Commons of this Land and they should bee charged and commanded in the Kings name that they with good hast and speed proceed to the Election of another Speaker The which Premisses for as much as they were matters in Law by the commandement of the Lords were opened and declared to the Commons by the mouth of Walter Moyle one of the Serjeants at Law in the presence of the Bishop of Elie in the Kings name that they should proceed to the Election of another Speaker with all godly hast and speed so that the matter for which the K. called this Parliament tooke good and effectuall conclusion and end ITem 16. die Febr. tunc prox sequenti praefati Communes quidam de sociis suis declaraverūt dominis spiritualibus tēporalibus in presenti Parliamento quòd ipsi per mandatum ex parte domini Regis pridie sibi injunct cum omni diligentia exequentes eligerunt loco praefat. Thom. Thorp Thom. Carleton militem prolocutorem suum humillimè deprecando quatenus praefatus dominus Rex hujusmodi electionem vellet acceptare Qu●bus per domi●um Cancellarium Angliae de mandato dicti Domini Regis advisamento consilii extitit respons quod quidem dominus Rex de electione praesenti Thom. Carleton se bene contentavit injungendo eis quatenus ad