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A94235 A scandalous, libellous, and seditious pamphlet entituled, The valley of Baca: or, The armies interest pleaded, the purchasors seconded, the danger of the nation demonstrated in 34 quæries, answered. And the present state of affaires briefly vindicated. By a true lover to the peace and wellfare of his countrey. 1660 (1660) Wing S815; Thomason E1034_16; ESTC R203483 12,863 16

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mentioned are not such to be warpt to any thing that is evil in hope of Preferment Nor is it his Majesty's design other than to be truly informed by them of the best and moderate wayes to Reconciliation which will be much better than for his Majesty to adhere to one party or to the other party for that his adhering to one party would not be safe also the keeping them in equal hopes and favour is not safe for that the keeping up of Factions in Church will produce Factions in State therefore the way his Majesty is now taking is the best to please God secure himself and for handing forth peace to his People 24. Whether two National constitutions can stand together and therefore whether the setling of the Prelatical Hierarchy doth not naturally predict the fall an● extirpation of Presbytery Answ That 't is true as before the countenancing and incouragement of the one is a detriment to the other therefore the extreams of both patries being lopt off they may be united and become one which will much renown the Church of England and render it more formidable against the Church of Rome whose practise it is to foment differences therefore it is the duty of every one to study and practise Reconciliation 25. Whether such Prelates who have been viewing the Altars of Damascus are like to have a peaceable entertainment here in their superstitious Popish fopperies when a new Generation of Youths are started up since their extirpation who never yet bowed the knee to Baal Answ That although the Presbyterian Interest be considerable yet the Episcopall are not inconsiderable if not as considerable and since that their difference in respect of Church-Government is not irreconcilable Union is to be endeavoured It is not my work here to prescribe a way I leave it to those whose work it is to do that my Task is to detect the Sophistry of the Author 26. Whether seeing his Ma esty hath Declared He will countenance godly Ministers it could be therefore intended when he made Dr. 〈◊〉 Dean of Westminster That the said Doctor should turn out all the Orthodox Ministers within the liberties of the said ●eana●y as he is endeavouring to do And whether the Prelaticall party do not abase his Majesty's cars by telling him they displace none but Phamticks Answ I know not whether it be true or false that the Dean of Westminster hath done any su●h thing peradventu●e all the Incu●bents of those Livings are alive or that some of them were not ordained by Bishops or Pre●byters in that case the Dean's Actions are legal 27. Whether there be not of the Presbyterian way a hundred good Preachers for one of the Prelaticall and whether that Government be not best for the Nation that hath most and best Preachers Answ There are godly and painful Preacher of bo●h so●ts that Government assuredly is best for the Nation that may reconcile these two grand Perswasions much better than that which shall keep up the Distinctions and consequently the Factions 28. Whether the re-instating of the Prelatical Hierarchy with the Appurtenances doth not in the consequence of it make null and void all Ordinations Sacraments and Marriages practised since their extirpation and whether the Nation hereby will not be brought into a strange and horrid Confusion Answ Those Persons that were ordained by Presbyters and are not upon those Livings w●ereof the Incumbents are living do still remain and are not nor are likely to be turned out but their Ordination is deemed good As for Marriages it is a publick Act and it receiveth its Being and Essence from the consent of the parties it cannot be made void by … ing administred by an improper Agent if it were all Judgments and Determinations in Law since these times would be made void It was the Opinion of the Judges in Henry the VII his time that the Judgments and proceedings in Law in Richard the III. his time were good although they were passed in the Usurper's time by whose Authority none could administer Justice but the necessity of doing Justice was such that the illegal Administration of it was dispensed with So the necessity of Marriage was such that the unusual performing of it doth not make it void because that the consent of the Parties maketh the Marriage the other is but the Solemnity of it and since there is a publick Record thereof it is therefore legal 29. Whether the best way therefore to set●le the Church and consequently the Nations and to prevent clamours to his Ma esty were not speedily to summon a Synod consisting of two Ministers out of each County to be chosen by the Presbytery of Ministers calling in the help of the best and most sober of the Episcopal but not Prelatical party which deligate from Scotland and other Protestant Churches giving due liberty to the soberly consciencious Answ These or much better Rules are intended by his Majesty to be pursued 30. Whether the pressing of the Oath of Supremacy be not of dangerous consequence to ensnare many thousands of Protestants who do conscienciously scruple it and generally all the Pre byterians of the three Nations And seeing the true intention of that Oath was to renounce the Pope's Supremacy whether it be not more consonant to a Protestant conscience to press an Oath upon all par●ies directly tending hereunto instead thereof 31. Whether pressing the Oath of Supremacy as it now stands doth not make null and void ●he solemn League and Covenant and whether it be not dangerous to enforce the Nations to forswear themselves seeing in the one they have directly covenanted and sworn against Prelates and in the other they swear to maintain all the Priviledges and Customs that ei●her now do or heretofore have appertained to the Crown Of which creating Bishops is one And whether the Convention taking such an Oath were not preobliged not only to establish Prelacy but also to turn out all Souldiers and Purchasers in any such Lands belonging to the Crown yea most unnaturally forcing men to swear so to do and consequently to starve their own Children Answ The Oath of Allegiance and Supremacy is not at all against the Solemn League and Covenant although it doth oblige those that take the Oath of Supremacy and Allegiance to defend and maintain his Ma●esty's Righ●s and Prerogative as in the creating of Bishops Suppose that his Ma esty should settle the Government of the Church without Bishops by some o●her Super-intendence ●o the content of the Episcop●l and Presbyterian p●rties because that is one of the Priviledges of the Crown it doth not oblige the party to contend for that which his Ma esty dischargeth him of by a publick ●ct of State As for example if a Lord shall upon condition from his Tenant or Vassal take his Oath for performance of several Services in Homage and Feal●y if the Lord shall discharge the Tenant of part or all the Tenant is so much or wholly discharged of his Oaths as the Lord shall dischage notwithstanding the Oath was peremptory In thi● case as also in that of Lands he th●t shall suggest to beget ●ealousies and fears of any thing but that his Majesty will de●l honourably justly and well with all his Sub●ects i● an Enemy to the peace and welfare of the People 32. Whether it be for the safety of the Nations to permit the Popish Lords to sit in the House before they have taken such an Oath 33. Whether his Ma esty this City and Kingdoms be not in da●ger of bloody Massacre by the confluence of those bloody Irish Papists to the number of many thousands about City and Court who withstanding his Ma●estie late Proclamation to the contrary who had a hand in the horrid massacre in Ireland and Savoy And whether countenance and respect from the Courtiers be not not a great Inducement to draw over many thousands more if not timely prevented 34. Whether his Majestie person at Court can be safe from danger when all places about are bought and sold Whether the Querist be not a Friend and Servant to his God his King and Country Answ I shall say nothing to these Quaeries I suppose they are malitiou scandalous and false Only thus much to the last Clause That the Querist is no Friend to God his King or Country in regard that he in a clandestine way hath published such a wicked Paper tending to beget and foment Fears and Jealousies in His Majestie 's Subjects by Reflecting upon Publike Actions to put all in a flame and disturbance out of which the Nations through the goodness of God lately have been delivered It had been his duty as well as it is all others duty to study healing and moderation uniting and composing of Differences He that doth otherwise Either by Action Word or Writing let him be of what Party soever he will is no other than an Enemy to God the King and his Country FINIS