Selected quad for the lemma: land_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
land_n	lord_n	part_n	tenant_n	1,512	5	9.6400	5	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A80251	The Commons dis-deceiver: touching their deceitfull delatory evasions of a desired speedy treaty with the King; the onely expedient for a wished and happy peace in the kingdome. Containing 1. Answers to the reasons of the Commons, which they gave the Lords (at a conference July 25. 1648.) against a treaty. 2. Reasons why the Commons, rather then the Lords, are against a treaty. 3. Reasons to shew that it is safer and better, even for the Commons, to adventure on a treaty, then to hazard a new warre.		1648 (1648)	Wing C5574; Thomason E457_3; ESTC R204960	11,269	15

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