the Commons House Thursday June 17. by which it will appear at what a Rate the Reformation was to be purchased when the first Account Run so high  l. It appeared that there was due to the Kings Army The State of the Account of the Armies 462050 There hath been paid to the Kings Army 150000 Rests due to the Kings Army 312050 There is due to the Scottish Army 216750 Due to the Scots for Shipping 4000 Total due to the Scots 220750 There hath been paid to the Scots 105000 Rests due to the Scots 115750 Total due to English and Scots 427800 Brotherly Assistance to be paid presently 80000 To pay this there is in View  Due from the Customers upon Composition 150000 Due from the Petty-Customers Composition 15000 From the City promised to be Lent 40000 Total 205000 To be provided more 302800 Off the Old Subsidies 300000 New Subsidies 400000 Customers 165000 Total raised and to be raised 865000 The Debate about the Poll-Bill was this Day agitated in the House of Commons whereupon it was agreed Friday June 18. That every Duke shall pay 100 pounds Every Marquess 80 pounds Votes and Rates of the Poll-Bill Every Earl 60 pounds Every Viscount 50 pounds Every Lord 40 pounds Every Bishop 60 pounds Every Dean 40 pounds Every Canon Residentiary 20 pounds Every Prebendary 10 pounds Every Rector for 100 l. per annum 5 pounds Every Baronet and Knight of the Bath 30 pounds Every Knight 20 pounds Every Esquire 10 pounds Every Gentleman of 100 l. per annum 5 pounds Aldermen of London the same Rate with Knights And for other Persons all above the Age of 16 Years Except such as receive Alms to pay 12 pence per pole Recusants of all Ranks to pay double Lord Mayor of London 40 pounds Aldermen Knights 20 pounds Aldermen Deputies 15 pounds Common Council men 5 pounds Master and Wardens of the 12 Companies 10 pounds Every one of the Livery 5 pounds Master and Wardens of the other Companies and such as have fined for Master or Wardens 5 pounds Every one of the Livery 50 shillings Every Freeman of the 12 Companies 20 shillings Every Freeman of the other Companies except Porters and Watermen 20 shillings Every Merchant Stranger being a Knight 40 pounds Every Merchant Stranger at Sea 10 pounds At Land 5 pounds English Merchants in Land not Free 5 pounds Factors 40 shillings Handicrafts-men Strangers 2 shillings per pole If House-Keeper or Papist 4 shillings Widows according to the Degrees of their Husbands Serjeants at Law 20 pounds Kings Serjeants 25 pounds King Queen and Princes Council 20 pounds Dr. of Law and Physick 10 pounds If Papists 20 pounds Arch-Deacons 15 pounds Chancellors and Commissaries 15 pounds Every man of 100 pounds 5 pounds Every man of 50 l. per annum 50 shillings Every one that can dispend 20 pounds per annum 5 shillings Saturday June 19. Bill against Pluralities and Non-residence passed the Commons The Bill against Pluralities and Non-Residence was this day read the third time in the Commons House and being passed was carried up to the Lords for their Assent By this Act it was provided That whosoever had two Livings should before the 21 of September next following resign one of them And that if any Clergy-man should be absent at any time 60 days from his Living he should ipso facto forfeit it A Message was brought from the House of Commons by John Hampden Esq The Bill a-against Pluralities brought up to the Lords who brought up a Bill which had passed the House of Commons Entituled An Act against the enjoyment of Pluralities of Benefices by Spiritual Persons and Non-residence And desires that their Lordships would give such dispatch to the Three Bills lately sent up 1. Concerning the Star-Chamber and the Privy Council 2. Concerning the High Commission Court The Third Concerning disarming of Recusants as may stand with their Lordships conveniency Upon which the said Bill was read the first time Bill against Ship-Money read a second time The Bill of Tonnage and Poundage passed the Lords House The Bill against Ship-mony was also read a second time This day was read the third time the Bill Entituled An Act of a Subsidy granted to the King of Tonnage and Poundage and other Sums of Mony payable upon Merchandzie Exported and Imported And being put to the Question it was Resolved Nemine Contradicente to pass as a Law and the L. Great Chamberlain L. Steward L. Chamberlain E. Holland were appointed from this House to move his Maiesty to appoint a time to give his Royal Assent This day Colonel Goring was again Examined by the House upon several Interrogatories Monday June 21. Goring further Examined upon which he deposed That Sir John Suckling first told him of that design about the middle of Lent last and that afterwards meeting with Mr. Jermyn he desired that he would meet him at White-hill on the Queens side for that he was to speak with her Majesty and would confer with him concerning the Army where meeting at the Queens drawing Chamber her Majesty told him the King would speak with him whereupon meeting with the King his Majesty told him that he was minded to set his Army into a good Posture being advised thereto by my Lord of Bristol as he said and his Majesty then commanded him to joyn with Mr. Percy and some others in that business Now because hereafter when the Faction flew out into open Rebellion they did endeavour to improve this into a scandal against the King as if he were in the design to bring up the Army against the Parliament thereby to render him odious to his Subjects and especially the Nonconformists who made the House of Commons their great Idol the Reader is desired to compare this Passage of Goring's Deposition wherein he tacitly seems to bring the King in as the Author of his entring into the Confederacy whereas in that first confession of his he gives an account that he fell in among them upon the account of the Discourse of endeavouring the redress of the Grievances of the Army and that thereupon finding them full of discontents and as he thought entring upon Resolutions of dangerous Consequence to the Common-wealth and his Majesties safety he continued his Correspondency with them and took the Oath of Secrecy purposely with an intention to disclose the matters and discover them to the Parliament in proof of which original intention of his Confederating with them he tells us He had before-hand provided for his own security by imparting the matter to some great Lords telling them that in a little time he should have occasion as he thought to acquaint them further with some things of great importance The House was this day Resolved into a Grand Committee of the whole House upon the Debate of the Root and Branch Bill Monday June 21. upon which occasion Sir Edward Deering made this following Speech as I find
year of Henry the Sixth which say that the English Statutes shall not be in force in Ireland unless particularly received in Parliament it makes all the Irish Statutes void which say that the English Statutes shall not be in force there It is usual when a Statute sayes that such a thing shall be done or not done to add further that all Statutes to the contrary shall be void No likelihood that this Statute intended to take away any Statute of Treason but when in the Chapter next before this Murder there is made Treason as if done upon the Kings person That this Statute of the Eighteenth year of Henry the Sixth remains on foot and not repealed either by the Statute of the Eighth year of Edward the Fourth or this of the Tenth year of Henry the Seventh appears expresly by two several Acts of Parliament made at the same Parliament of the tenth year of Henry the Seventh By an Act of Parliament of Henry the Sixth's time in Ireland it was made Treason for any Man whatsoever to procure a Privy-Seal or any other Command whatsoever for apprehending any Person in Ireland for Treason done without that Kingdom and to put any such Command in Execution divers had been attainted of Treason for executing such Commands There is a Treason so made by Act of Parliament in Henry the Sixth's time In the third Chapter of this Parliament of the tenth of Henry the Seventh an Act is passed for no other end then to repeal this Statute of Henry the Sixth of Treason If this Statute of Henry the Sixth of Treason had been formerly repealed by the Statute of 8 E 4. or then by the two and twentieth Chapter of this Parliament of the 10th of Henry the Seventh by bringing in the English Statutes the Law-makers were much mistaken now to make a particular Act of Parliament to repeal it it being likewise so unreasonable an Act as it was In the Eighth Chapter of this Parliament of the 10th of Henry the Seventh it is Enacted that the Statutes of Kilkenny and all other Statutes made in Ireland two only excepted whereof this of the Eighteenth of Henry the Sixth is none for the Common-Weal shall be enquired of and executed My Lord of Strafford saith that the bringing in of the English Statute hath repealed this Statute the Act of Parliament made the same time saith no it saith that all the Irish Statutes excepting two whereof this is none shall still be in force Object Oh but however it was in the 10 H. 7. yet it appears by Judgment in Parliament afterwards that this Statute of 18 H. 6. is repealed and that is by the Parliament of the 11th year of Queen Elizabeth the 7th Chapter that by this Parliament it is Enacted That if any Man without Licence from the Lord-Deputy lay any Soldiers upon the Kings Subjects if he be a Peer of the Realm he shall forfeit one hundred pounds if under the degree of a Peer One hundred Marks This Statute as is alleadged declares the Penalty of laying Soldiers on the Subjects to be only one hundred pounds and therefore it s not Treason Answ My Lords if the Offence for which this Penalty of one hundred pounds is laid upon the Offenders be for laying Soldiers or leading them to do any Act Offensive or Invasive upon the Kings People the Argument hath some force but that the Offence is not for laying Soldiers upon the true Subjects that this is not the Offence intended in the Statute will appear to your Lordships Ex absurdo from the words of it The Words are That if any Man shall assemble the People of the County together to conclude of Peace or War or shall carry those People to do any Acts Offensive or Invasive then he shall forfeit One hundred pounds If concluding of War and carrying the people to Acts Invasive be against the Kings Subjects this is High-Treason which are the words of the Statute of 25 E. 3. for if any Subject shall assemble the people and conclude a War and accordingly shall lead them to invade the Subject this is a levying of War within the words of the Statute and then the Statutes of the 25 E. 3. 1 H. 4. 1 of Queen Mary which the Earl of Strafford in his Answers desires to be tryed by are as well repealed in this point as the Statute of the 18th of Henry the Sixth he might then without fear of Treason have done what he pleased with the Irish Army for all the Statutes of levying of War by this Statute of 11 Eliz. were taken out of his way In Ireland a Subject gathers Forces concludes a War against the Kings People actually invades them bloodshed burning of houses depredations ensue two of those that is Murder and burning of Houses are Treason and there the other Felony by the construction the punishment of Treason and Felony is turned only into a fine of One hundred pounds from loss of Life Lands and all his Goods only to loss of part of his Goods The Third Absurdity a War is concluded three several Inrodes are made upon the Subjects in the first a hundred pounds damage in the second five thousand pounds damage in the third ten thousand pounds damage is done to the Subjects the penalty for the last inroade is no more then for the first only one hundred pounds This Statute by this Construction tells any man how to get his living without long labour Two parts of the hundred pounds is given to the King a third part unto the Informer Here 's no damage to the Subject that is robbed and destroyed My Lords The Statute will free it self and the makers from those Absurdities The meaning of the Statute is That if any Captain shall of his own head conclude of Peace or War against the Kings Enemies or Rebels or shall upon his own head invade them without Warrant from the King or Lord Deputy of Ireland that then he shall forfeit a Hundred pounds The offence is not for laying of Soldiers upon the Kings people but making War against the Irish Rebells without Warrant the Offence is not in the Matter but in the Manner for doing a thing lawful but without Mission I. This will appear by the general Scope of the Statute all the parts being put together II. By particular Clauses in the Statute III. By the Condition of that Kingdom at the time of the making of that Statute For the First The Preamble recites that in time of Declination of Justice under pretext of defending the Country and themselves diverse great Men arrogated to themselves Regal Authority under the names of Captains that they acquired to themselves that Government which belonged to the Crown for preventing of this It 's Enacted That no man dwelling within the Shire-Grounds shall thenceforth assume or take to himself the Authority or name of a Captain within these Shire-Grounds without Letters-Patents from the Crown nor shall under colour of his
Cohabit July 12. 1641. It was Resolved to pass as a Law Nemine Contradicente UPon Report this Day made unto the House from the Lords Committees for Petitions That William Walter was complained of by the Petition of Elizabeth Walter his Wife for refusing to Co-habit with her or allow her and her 3 Children Maintenance and Supportation for their Lively-hoods although he hath a Good and a Plentiful Estate It was thought fit and so ordered by the Lords in Parliament That the said William Walter shall settle Lands and Tenements cleared from all former Incumbrances other then Leases whereupon the usual Rent is reserved lying in the County of Pembroke upon such Trustees as the said Mrs. Walter shall Nominate to the use of her self and her said 3 Children during the time of her Life And Mr. Justice Foster and Mr Justice Heath's assistance to the said Lords Committees for Petitions are hereby desired by the Lords in Parliament to direct the Counsel of the said Mrs. Walter what security shall be taken in or out of the Premisses and how and in what manner an Estate of and in the Lands and Tenements or Tithes of the said William Walter shall be setled or charged and chargeable with the payment of sixty Pounds per An. to the use of the said Mrs. Walter and her 3 Children the first payment whereof to begin at Michaelmass next ensuing the Date hereof And in Case the said Mr. Walter 's Estate shall encrease by the Death of his Mother or Grandmother or otherwise it is their Lordships Pleasure that the Moiety of the same as it shall fall and accrew to him shall be settled and paid unto the said Feoffees to the use of the said Mrs. Walter and her 3 Children as aforesaid by the Advice of the Judges aforenamed And further that if the said William Walter shall refuse or delay by the space of a Month next ensuing to make such settlement in manner as aforesaid then it is their Lordships Pleasure that a Sequestration shall be awarded to such Person or Persons as the said Mrs. Walter shall nominate to take and receive so much of the Yearly Rent and Profits of the said Lands and Tenements of the said William Walter as shall amount to such proportions and allowances as aforesaid to be answered to the said Mrs. Walter or her Assigns half Yearly for the uses aforesaid UPon Report this Day made unto the House from the Lords Committees An Order of the Lords concerning a Vicaridge in Sir Peter Osborn's Case Plaintiff against Thomas Joyce Clerk July 12. 1641. for Petitions in the Cause of Sir Peter Osborn Knight Plaintiff and Thomas Joice Clerk it appeared unto their Lordships That Sir John Osborn Knight deceased Father of the said Sir Peter was seized in Fee of the Rectory of Hawnes in the County of Bedford to which the Advowson of the Vicaridge did consist only of eight Pounds per Ann. stipend That the said Sir John Osborn did in the 9th Year of King James convey the Inheritance of the said Rectory and Vicaridge together with a new House built upon his own Land to the now Bishop of Durham Sir Thomas Cheek and others for the Increase of Maintenance of such Vicar or Vicars as should be nominated by the said Sir John or his Heirs But before the Gift Sir John puts in Mr. Brightman and Mr. Wilson successively who injoyed the said House and Tythes and after the Gift nominated Mr. Sherley who was only Licensed by the Bishop but never Instituted or Inducted After the Death of the said Mr. Sherley the said Sir Peter Osborn nominated Mr. Buckley who was Licensed by the Bishop without being instituted or Inducted the Defendant Joyce obtains a Presentation by Lapse and gained a Decree in Chancery for the Rectory House and Tythes against which Decree Sir Peter Osborn objected that the Donor intended the said Rectory to him only that was to be nominated by himself or his Heirs and could not intend it to any that came in by Lapse it being then in Lapse when his Gift was made which was denied by the Defendant and affirmed that it was intended to the Incumbent whoever he was otherwise the Charity of the Donor would be overthrown Whereupon the Decree and Deed of the said Sir John Osborn was produced and read before the said Lords Committees who after long Debate by Councel on both Sides were fully satisfied That the Donor intended it to none but such as should come in by the Nomination of him or his Heirs Whereupon it is Ordered and Adjudged by the Lords in Parliament That the said Lay Fee Rectory and House together with all the said Donors Gift setled by the said Deed shall by virtue of this Order go to such Clergy-Man or Men as the said Sir Peter Osborne and his Heirs shall Nominate and Appoint according to the meaning of the said Donor and no other And that the Defendant Joyce that came into the vicaridge by Lapse shall have no Advantage of the Gift so made by Sir John Osborne but shall forthwith upon Notice hereof relinquish the same and shall also Answer to the Feoffees for all the Profits of the said House and Rectory by him taken ever since the said Decree and if the said Defendant Joyce conceives he hath any Right he is left to try the same at the Common Law without taking any advantage of the said Decree or of any thing done by Sir Peter Osborne in Obedience to the said Decree A Message was brought from the House of Commons by Sir Henry Vane Junior to desire that the Bill for Tonnage and Poundage may be delivered unto them to be brought up and presented by their Speaker with the Commission under the Great Seal annexed THeir Lordships taking this into Consideration Message from the Commons about the Bill of Tonage and Poundage and perusing the Commission found by the Tenor of the said Commission that the Bill of Tonnage and Poundage could not pass the Royal Assent by virtue of this Commission if they were separated therefore to avoid all Ambiguities Resolved to send some Lords to desire His Majesty would be pleased to come in Person to give the Royal Assent to the said Bill Hereupon the E. Bath E. Essex E. Cambridge E. Bristol Bill for Tonnage and Poundage passed the Royal Assent went presently to attend his Majesty therein who brought this Answer That the King will be here presently His Majesty being come and satt in the Chair of State the Commons were sent for who came and by their Speaker presented the Bill for Tonnage and Poundage then the Clerk of the Crown read the Title of the said Bill and the Clerk of the Parliament pronounced the Royal Assent thereunto in these words Le Roy remerciant ses bons Subjects accepte Leur Benevolence et ainsi le veult It was this day Ordered in the Commons House Munday July 12. Order for Aftornoon Sermons in all
the now Lord Chancellor and the Chief Justice of the Common-Pleas upon the Proofs in the Chancery decreed for the Plaintiff to which he refers himself and it may be the Lord Mountnorris was thereupon put out of his Possession To the Seventh he saith His Majesty being Intituled to divers Lands Lord Dillon his Patent questioned upon an Inquisition found Proclamation was made That such as Claimed by Patent should come in by a day and have their Patents allowed as if they had been found in the Inquisition and accordingly divers were allowed The Lord Dillon produced His Patent which being questionable he consented and desired that a Case might be drawn which was drawn by Counsel and argued and the Judges delivered their Opinions but the Lord Dillon nor any other were bound thereby or put out of Possession but might have traversed the Office or otherwise legally have proceeded that Case or Opinion notwithstanding To the Eighth he saith That upon Sir John Gifford's Petition to the King The Lord Loftus close Prisoner not delivering the Great Seal His Majesty referred it to the Deputy and Council of Ireland where the matter proceeding legally to a Decree against the Lord Loftus and upon his Appeal that Decree by his Majesty and his Council of England was confirmed to which Decree and Order he refers himself believing the Lord Loftus was committed for disobeying that Decree and for continuance in contempt committed close Prisoner He saith That the Lord Loftus having committed divers Contempts the Council by Warrant required him to appear at the Board and to bring the Great Seal with him which Order he disobeyed and was shortly after Committed and the Great Seal was delivered up by his Majesties express Command and not otherwise And an Information was exhibited in the Star-Chamber for grievous Oppressions done by the Lord Loftus as Chancellor whereof he was so far from justifying as that he submitted desiring to be an Object of his Majesties Mercy and not of his Justice The Earl of Kildare for not performing of an Award made by King James The Earl of Kildare Committed and of an Award made in pursuance thereof by the said Earl of Strafford upon a Reference from His Majesty was by the Deputy and Council Committed and a Letter being unduly obtained he did not thereupon enlarge him but upon another Letter and submission to the Orders as by the King was directed he was enlarged The Lady Hibbots and one Hoy her Son having upon a Petition Answer Examination of Witnesses and other Proceedings at Council-Board been found to have committed foul abuses by Fraud and Circumvention to have made a Bargain with the Petitioner Hibbots for Lands of a great value for a small sum of Money was Ordered to deliver up the Writing no Assurances being perfected or Money paid and it 's like he threatned her with Commitment if she obeyed not that Order but denieth that the Lands were after sold to Sir Robert Meredith to his use or that by any Order by himself made any one hath been Imprisoned concerning Freeholds but for debts and personal things as some have been used by all his Predecessors in like Causes To the Ninth he saith Warrants to such Effects have been usually granted to the Bishops in Ireland in the times of all former Deputies but the Earl not satisfied with the conveniency thereof refused to give any such Warrants in general to the Bishops as had been formerly done but being informed that divers in the Diocess of Down gave not fitting Obedience he granted a Warrant to that Bishop whereto he referreth which was the only Warrant he granted of that Nature and hearing of some Complaints of the Execution thereof he recalled it To the Tenth he saith The Lord Treasurer Portland offered the Farm of the Customs for 13000 l. per annum in some particular Species but the Earl of Strafford advanced the same Customs to 15500 l. per annum and 8000 l. Fine and by His Majesties Command became a Farmer at those Rates proposed without addition to those Rates as by the printed Books 7 Car. Regis may appear he disswaded the advance of Rates lately proposed by Sir Abraham Dawes so as it was declined the Rates of Hydes and Wooll are moderate consideration being had of their true value and of the Places whereto they are to be transported and of the Statute made in the time of Queen Elizabeth and there in force prohibiting the Exportation of Wooll unless they pay to the Crown 5 s. the Stone the Trade and Shipping of that Kingdom are exceedingly increased To the Eleventh he saith Pipe-staves were prohibited in King James's Time and not Exported but by Licence from the Lord Treasurer of England or Lord-Deputy of Ireland who had 6 s. 8 d. a 1000 and his Secretary 3 s. 4 d. for the Licence but to restrain that destruction of Timber by Command of His Majesty and Advice of His Council for His Revenue in Ireland first 30 s. then 3 l. the money was paid to His Majesty who hath thereby about 1500 l. per annum and his Lordship lost about 4 or 500 l. per annum which his Predecessors had for such Licences This is paid by the Transporter not by the Natives whose Commodity nevertheless appears by the Article to be very much increased To the Twelfth he saith The Subsidies there are an Inheritance in the Crown by Act of Parliament 6 d. was paid for Subsidy and 1 s. 6. d. for Impost upon every pound of Tobacco and Farmed 10 or 20 l. per annum the Commons in Parliament 10 Car. Regis finding the Revenue to be short of the Expence of that Kingdom 24000 l. per annum Petitioned those Grants might be applied to increase His Majesties Revenue without calling upon the Subject but upon urgent Occasions Hereupon upon the Advice of the Committee of the Revenue and in consideration of a Proclamation made in England several Proclamations were made and this settled in a way till it could be confirmed by Parliament for which purpose a Bill is transmitted according to the desire of the Commons and the Impost of Tobacco is Let to Contractors for eleven years at 5000 l. per annum for the first five years and 10000 l. per annum for the other six years and the Earl hath lent money to forward the business and by His Majesties Allowance is a Partner but hath not as yet in two years last past had any Accompts thereof or made benefit thereby He knoweth of no whipping or other punishment the Farmes of the Customs are better than formerly 2000 l. per annum five 8 parts whereof is yearly paid unto His Majesty the prices of Tobacco exceed not 2 s. or 2 s. 4 d. the pound the settling of that Revenue according to the Petition of the Commons he hath not raised or countenanced any Monopolies but opposed the same To the Thirteenth he saith He endeavoured to advance the Manufacture of
Compositions he hath paid near 100000 l. into the Exchequer and they had no other Priviledges than what was exercised in the Commission and in former like Commissions and as are in the present Commission to the Lord Treasurer and others To the Nineteenth he saith The last Summer was twelve months when the English and Scotch lay in the Fields near Berwick the Earl and Council of Ireland having a general motion thereof were in fear that the Scots in Vlster being almost 100000 in number might be drawn to side with the Covenanters and advising how to secure that Kingdom the Principal of the Nation of Scotland living in Ireland came to Dublin and Petitioned That he might have an Oath whereby they might give Testimony of future Obedience to His Majesty whereupon an Oath was by the Advice of Council of State framed and chearfully taken by those Scotch Gentlemen and generally by all the Nation in Ireland as the Earl conceives to their advantage and the satisfaction of others he believes that some were Sentenced for refusing it but none were otherwise exiled The Earl in his Vote said That he would endeavour that all of that Nation should take that Oath or leave the Kingdom all which was done by His Majesties Direction and Approbation and it was not contrived to the intents in the Article Charged but to prevent their adhering to the Covenanters then in open Arms and not concerning the Ceremony or Government of the Church To the Twentieth he saith That in the Year 1638. the Earl was in Ireland when Preparations were made for War and Summons sent to the Nobility of this Kingdom In the Year 1639. a General was appointed and an Army drawn to the Field and Encamped near Berwick whereby it appears he was not acquainted that the Article of Pacification had been broken on both Sides and so distempered that it was held fit an Army in England should be raised to suppress the Covenanters if the business could not with Honour and Safety be otherwise composed The said Earl humbly advised His Majesty to call a Parliament and used many Motives thereunto after the Parliament was called and before the Sitting thereof ten of the Lords and other of the Council for Forreign Affairs being assembled His Majesty then present an Honourable Person related the Covenanters Demands it was then Voted by all That they were such as might not in Honour and Safety be condescended unto by His Majesty and if they could not be otherwise reduced His Majesty must be constrained to bring them to it by force the like Resolution was after at the Council-Table by twenty of the Council Whereupon His Majesty appointed a Council of War and it was held necessary to borrow 200000 l. upon good Security till the Supplies by the Parliament might come in He never said the Scotch Nation were Rebels but was ever perswaded that many of them are most Loyal Subjects Those that raised Arms when they were at such distance from His Majesty he might say they were no less than Rebels and Traytors by Warrant from the Lord Admiral he caused divers Ships and Goods to be seized but not with an intent to set on the War but as much as in him lay to bring all to fair Accommodation without expence of blood To the 21th he saith The pacification was broken before he came over as in the Answer to the former Article he moved His Majesty for a Parliament in England but not with such intent as in the Article but out of a desire to have settled a right Understanding between the King and His people It may be he said though he remembreth it not that if the Parliament would not Supply His Majesty he would serve His Majesty in any other lawful way being well assured that His Majesty would not imploy him nor any man else in any other kind To the 22th he saith According to His Majesties Instructions he did set forth to the Parliament of Ireland the State of the Affairs as they then stood and they freely gave four Subsidies as an acknowledgment of His Goodness and happy Government as by the Act and Remonstrance appears in Print He by His Majesties Direction then gave Order for the raising of 8000 Men who still remain in the King's pay and were sent into Vlster to secure those Parts or to land in Scotland to divert the Earl of Argile in case he joyned with the Covenanters Army against the King but it was mentioned in the King's Letter 2 Martii 1639. he had purposely given out That they should join with the King's Army at Berwick to colour other Designs but the true cause of their Levying was made known to be as aforesaid unto the Earl of Ormond Sir John Burlace and the Marquiss of Hamilton and Earl of Northumberland at the time of the writing the Letter and he denies the words charged in the Articles or any other words to such intent and purpose To the 23th he saith The matters of the Parliament were no otherwise referred to him than to the rest of the Council that coming sick from Ireland about ten days after the Parliament were set and after the Treaty with the Earl of Dunfermline Lord Lowdon Scotch Commissioners was broken off and the Army preparing and the Parliament not supplying Monies as His Majesty desired His Majesty advised what might move them to prefer His Supply in debate whereof he humbly advised His Majesty by a Message to the House to lay down Ship-Money and promise never to demand it and give way to reverse the Judgment by a Writ of Error in Parliament and to promise a Redress of Grievances when they should be prepared And secondly That they would presently agree upon such Supply as should maintain His Army for reducing the Scots to their Obedience wherein their Safety and His Honour was concerned His Majesty assented conditionally that he might have 12 Subsidies the Earl besought Him that it might not pass as a Condition but to Relinquish Ship-Money and put himself upon their Affections and drew up the Message in Writing and delivered it to Mr. Secretary Vane to deliver to the House of Commons He desired to know if His Majesty would not take less than 12 His Majesty Answered He feared less would not serve His Occasions The Earl of Strafford besought His Majesty to accept of Eight so His Majesty assented and desired Mr. Secretary to signifie so much as occasion should be offered but whether he did so or not the said Earl knoweth not The House of Commons being in debate two days and not Resolving His Majesty about the 5th of May last called a Council at Seven of the Clock in the Morning the said Earl being sick came late and was told as he remembreth by the Earl of Bark-shire the King had declared His Resolution to Dissolve the Parliament the Earl of Strafford besought His Majesty to hear the Advice of His Council and first of those that were Members of the
House of Commons by whom the rest might the better be guided Mr. Secretary Windebank said He feared the House would first be Answered of their Grievances and Voted for a Breach of the Parliament Mr. Secretary Vane in opposite terms said That there was no hope that they would give the King a Penny and therefore absolutely Voted for a Breach And the Earl of Strafford conceiving His Majesties Pleasure to have accepted Eight Subsidies had been delivered to the House of Commons by Mr. Secretary Vane did in His Majesties turn deliver his Vote for Breach of the Parliament which otherwise he would not have done it being contrary to what he Resolved when he came thither and like Opinion was delivered by the rest of the Lords being about twenty except two or three at the most The Parliament being Dissolved His Majesty desired Advice of His Council How money might be raised affirming That the Scotch Army was ready to enter into the Kingdom The said Earl in presence of others in the Council delivered his Opinion That in a Case of absolute and unavoidable necessity which neither would nor could be prevented by ordinary remedies provided by the Laws nor all His Majesties other means sufficient to defend the Common-wealth Himself or their Lives and Estates from an Enemy without force of Arms either actually entred or daily expected to Invade the Realm He conceived that His Majesty was absolved from ordinary Rules and might use in as moderate a way the necessity of the Cause would permit all ways and means for defence of Himself and Kingdom for that he conceived in such extremity Salus Populi was Suprema Lex provided it were not colourable nor any thing demanded imployed to other use nor drawn into Example when Law and Justice might take place and that when Peace was settled Reparation was to be given to particular men otherwise it would be unjust This was not officiously declared but in Council forced by the duty of the Oath of a Counsellor which is that he shall in all things to be moved treated and debated in Council faithfully and truly declare his Mind and Opinion according to his Heart and Conscience which Oath the said Earl took and humbly prays their Lordships Consideration thereof He denieth the words in the Article or any words to the intent thereby expressed To the 24th he saith He delivered his Opinion with such Cautions and Restrictions as in the Answer to the Precedent Article and is well assured his Discourse at all times hath been without ill Intentions to either of the Houses of Parliament which he ever did and shall think and speak of with all Reverence He denies that he knew of the Publishing or Printing of the Book nor who caused it to be Printed or Published for at that time he was sick in his Bed more like to die than to live To the 25th he saith Ship-Money was levied and adjudged to be due before his coming over Sheriffs were then called up as before and not otherwise If any were sued in Star-Chamber it was without any particular indeavour of his It appearing at the Board That the Mayor and Sheriffs of London had been slow in Collecting Ship-Money he said They were but Ministerial and ought to Exact and not dispute the King's Writs and that if through their remisness the King should be less able to provide for the Publick Safety when any Forreign Army was ready to enter the Kingdom they might deserve to be Fined and Ransomed which he spake more to hasten them than of purpose to advise any such Prosecution but denies the other words being under favour such Expressions as he is not accustomed unto To the 26th he saith He advised not either of those Projects being then sick in Bed but it being debated at the Council-Table Whether it were better for the King to raise Gold and Silver or Coin base Money He for the Reasons then given delivered his Opinion for the latter Sundry Merchants Adventurers coming to his house desired him to move His Majesty then at Oatlands to Release the Bullion or Money he told them He knew of no such thing and would not meddle with it nor would his Health permit him to go abroad and said That if their denying the King in such a Publick Danger the Loan of 100000 l. upon good Security the King were constrained for the Preservation of the Land to stay the Bullion they might thank themselves and the City receiving so great a benefit by Residing amongst them they made but an unthankful acknowledgment in such a Straight to refuse the Loan of that Sum. The Officers of the Mint came to the Council-Board and the Earl then shewed a Letter he received from the Earl of Leicester wherein was related That the Cardinal had appointed Commissioners to go into the Merchants houses at Paris to peruse their Shop-Books and Accompts and to Cess every man according to his Ability towards the payment of the King's Army and then said That it was but just for Us here in England to bless God for being under a King which could not think upon such a Pressing upon the People But the words in the Article or words to any such intent he did not speak and cannot sufficiently bemoan himself to have been in all his words so ill understood or so untruly Reported as he hath been To the 27th he saith He perswaded the Gentry of that Country to allow the Trained-Band a months Pay which they yielded and His Majesty graciously accepted It was by Council of War His Majesty being present thought fit the Trained-Bands should return save the two Regiments under the Command of Sir William Pennyman and Sir Thomas Danby It was assented unto by His Majesty and the great Councel of the Peers then Assembled That those spared should Contribute and the said Earl was Commanded by them to see it done which was done accordingly by Warrants from him and from his Deputy-Lieutenants which was much less Charge to the Countries than otherwise and denies the other particular in the Article mentioned To the 28th he saith He was Lieutenant-General to the Earl of Northumberland about the 24th of August of 10 or 12000 Foot and 2000 Horse being at New-Castle under the Command of the Lord Conway and Sir Jacob Ashley and the rest of the Army at York the said Earl went from London and the 26th of August notwithstanding his extream weakness and came to York and having received a Letter from Sir Jacob Ashley that New-Castle was Fortified and that they must be Infamous Beasts to lose it and that it was fully Secured and being acquainted with several Dispatches sent by Mr. Secretary Vane by His Majesties Directions to the Lord Conway General of the Horse to oppose the Passage of the Scots over the River of Tyne the one dated 22. Augusti the other 23. Augusti another 24. Augusti another 26. Augusti the substance of which Letters are particularly mentioned in the
Behaviour and Eloquence between the Extremes of Baseness and Dejection and the vanity of Disdain or Ostentation as raised an admiration of him even in his very Enemies The first Witness that was produced was Sir Pierce Crosby Witnesses Sir Pierce Crosby set aside for the present against whom the Earl excepted as having been sentenced in the Star-Chamber in Ireland for Conspiring to take away his Life for breaking Prison and making his Escape from which Circumstances it was probable he might be Transported by the desire of private revenge beyond the bounds of Truth and Publick Justice so that for the present he was set aside Then Sir John Clotworthy was sworn Sir John Clotworthy all that he deposed was that Sir George Radcliff being a teller of the No's in a Vote of Parliament to which he had given his Negative contrary to the Mind of the Earl who had a desire the Bill should pass Sir George asked him if he had not a Lease in such a place to which he answering yes Sir George replyed remember that That as to Sir Pierce Crosby's imprisonment he did apprehend it was for giving his Vote contrary to the Lord Lieutenant's mind for that he heard Sir George say to him after he had Voted this is not Privy Counsellor like or to that Effect The Lord Ranulagh deposed that Sir Pierce Crosby was by the Opinion of the Board sequestred from the Privy-Council for Voting against a Bill transmitted by the Lord Deputy and Council to the Parliament Lord Ranulagh The Lord Mountnorris deposed to the same Effect Lord Mountnorris and that he was Sequestred from the Council by the Voices of the Board among which the Earl gave his Mr Nicholas Barnwell deposed that for his differing in Opinion in the Parliament from Sir George Radcliff Nic. Barnwell Sir George asked him if his House would hold 500 Men to which he smiling answered you know how many my house will hold whereupon Sir George replyed it was no laughing matter and that he should have 500 men laid upon him but this upon the Earl's Question he said was spoken when the Earl was out of the Kingdom upon which Mr. Pym made this prity Observation That the Spirit of my Lord Strafford could move in Sir George Radcliff wheresoever it was spoken as if a man could commit Treason had it been such by his Proxie The next thing was about oppressing the Subjects of Ireland Mr. Egor a Witness and particularly the City of Dublin by quartering Soldiers upon them to which Mr. Egor was sworn deposed that the City of Dublin is put to 55 l. per mensem for billetting of Horse which the Earl avoided by the Practice of his Predecessors in the like Case which the Witness confessed as to Foot Guards The Managers then desired the Remonstrance from Ireland might be read which the Earl opposed as being New matter and not in the Charge but come over since his Impeachment to which they replyed that the Subverting of Laws and Corruption of Government was in general laid and they produce this to prove his answer Untrue as to his Integrity in the Administration whereupon the Lord Baltinglass and Lord Digby of Ireland vouching the Truth of the Copy it was read in haec Verba To the Right Honourable the Lord-Deputy The Humble and just Remonstrance of the Knights Citizens and Burgesses of the Parliament Assembled Shewing THat in all Ages since the happy Subjection of this Kingdom to the Imperial Crown of England The Irish Remonstrance it was and is a Principal Study and Princely Care of his Majesty and His Noble Progenitors Kings and Queens of England and Ireland to the vast Expence of Treasure and Blood that their Loyal and Dutiful people of this Land of Ireland being now for the most part derived from British Ancestors should be Governed according to the Municipal and Fundamental Laws of England that the Statute of Magna Charta or the Great Charter of the Liberties of England and other Laudable Laws and Statutes were in several Parliaments here Enacted and Declared That by the means thereof and of the most Prudent and Benign Government of His Majesty and His Royal Progenitors this Kingdom was until of late in its growth a Flourishing Estate whereby the said people were heretofore enabled to answer their humble and natural desires to comply with His Majesties Princely and Royal Occasions by their free Gift of 150 Thousand Pounds Sterling and likewise by another free Gift of 120 Thousand Pounds more during the Government of the Lord Viscount Faulkland and after by the Gift of 40 Thousand Pounds and their free and chearful Gift of Six entire Subsidies in the 10th Year of His Majesties Reign which to comply with His Majesties then Occasions signified to the then House of Commons They did allow should amount in the Collections unto 250 Thousand Pounds although as they confidently believe if the Subsidies had been levied in a moderate Parliamentary way they would not have amounted to much more than half the Sum aforesaid besides the four intire Subsidies granted in this present Parliament So it is May it please Your Lordship by the occasion of the insuing and other Grievances and Innovations though to His Majesty no considerable Profit this Kingdom is reduced to that extream and universal Poverty that the same is less able to pay Subsidies than it was heretofore to satisfie all the before recited great Payments And His Majesties most Faithful people of the Land do conceive great fears that the said Grievances and Consequences thereof may be hereafter drawn into Presidents to be perpetuated upon their Posterity which in their great Hopes and strong Beliefs they are perswaded is contrary to His Royal and Princely intention towards His said people some of which said Grievances are as followeth 1. The general apparent decay of Trades occasioned by the new and illegal raising of the Book of Rates and Impositions upon Native and other Commodities Exported and Imported by reason whereof and of extream Vsage and Censures Merchants are beggered and both disinabled and discouraged to Trade and some of the honourable Persons who gain thereby are often Judges and Parties and that in the conclusion His Majesties Profit thereby is not considerably advanced 2. The Arbitrary decision of all civil Causes and Controversies by Paper Petitions before the Lord Lieutenant and the Lord Deputy and infinite other Judicatories upon reference from them derived in the nature of all Actions determinable at the Common Law not limited into certain time cause season or thing whatsoever And the consequences of such proceedings by receiving immoderate and unlawful Fees by Secretaries Clerks Pursevants Serjeants at Arms and otherwise by which kind of Proceedings His Majesty loseth a considerable part of his Revenue upon Original Writs and otherwise and the Subject loseth the benefit of his Writ of Error Bill of Reversal Vouchers and other Legal and just Advantages and
and old Entayles would be set on Foot and by that means the later Purchaser avoided by which means there was a great loss and prejudice to the King in his Wards which by these Laws are setled and the Laws of Ireland brought much nearer the Laws of England than before And in this point I conceive I am not absolutely gainsayed but only conditionally that is that notwithstanding this I have set up another Government Arbitrary and Tyrannical To which I shall not now trouble your Lordships with an Answer that being in the particulars of my Charge And thus I think the first to be fairly and clearly Answered Then that there were more Parliaments in the time of my Government than in 50 years before There were two in my time and if I might call Witnesses it would appear that there were not so many within that time before but being not material to my Defence or Condemnation I will not trouble your Lordships with proof unless you will require it I having them here that I think can make it good And whereas in my Answer I deny that I ever had hand in any Project or Monopoly and that I did prevent divers that otherwise would have passed I said that under favour with all duty and confidence I must still affirm it That I never had hand or share in any manner of Monopoly or Project whatsoever unless the Tobacco-business were a Monopoly which under favour I shall clear not to be but that being part of my Charge I think it impertinent now to give Answer unto it but will satisfie your Lordships in that behalf in proper time and place But more then that of Tobacco I say absolutely and directly I never had my hand or share in any Monopoly or Project nay I did as much as I could Oppose all of them particularly the Monopoly of Iron-Pots for which I reserve my self to Answer as part of my Charge And a new Book of Rates whereby it was proposed That the Rates of the King's Customs might be encreased And this I did Oppose and Disavow albeit I was a sharer in the Farm and consequently should have had the Benefit and Advantage of it for my proportion and by the King 's Gracious Goodness when His Majesty came to be more fully and clearly informed of it it was stopped and never went on And this I will make appear in that point of the Articles that concern the Customs The Fourth is That I have not had any greater Power or larger Commission than my Predecessors in that Government have had which I conceive under favour is not controverted but granted and therefore stands good to me or if it wer econtroverted I am able to make it appear that I have brought in nothing more than was formerly accustomed in the point of the Deputies Commission The next thing in my Answer is That the Revenue of Ireland was never able to Support it self before my coming thither and that I say still with all Humility and Duty is most true And I trust to make it apparently true presently if Your Lordships will give me leave to call for and examine my Witnesses It being the Proofs Your Lordships will look to and not to what was only alledged by that Worthy Gentleman And further than Your Lordships shall find proved I desire not to be believed The proof offered against me is by Sir Edward Warder and Sir Robert Pye who testified That from the Year 1621. nothing went out of the King's Exchequer to supply the Irish Affairs saving only for the Maritime occasions And this I believe to be true for they be Gentlemen of Credit that speak it and I will believe them on their Words much more on their Oaths But under favour there was for Eight Years together before my coming a Contribution of 20000 l. a Year paid by the Country which was no part of the King's Revenue nor as I conceive ever came into Accompt nor was paid into the Exchequer as will appear on the Fifteenth Article but was a Gift of the Country and applyed to the King's Occasions and that determined the Revenue fell short 20000 l. of the Charge Besides when I came into Ireland the Crown was extreamly indebted above as I think not to stand on particular Sums and Pence 100000 l. Sterling And by the Gentleman 's own saying when I came out of Ireland I left 100000 l. in the King's Coffers And if any ask where the Accompt for the Subsidies is There is 100000 l. Debt paid 100000 l. left in the King's Coffers For it appears by Sir Adam Loftus that there was 100000 l. in the Exchequer when I came from thence There was 15000 l. employed for buying Land that yields the King 2000 l. a Year And so much of my Lord of Ormond as yields 2500 l. a Year So that the Accompts will shew the bestowing of the Subsidies with as much Advantage as might be for the King's Service That the Revenue was short I could make appear clearly The occasion that no Money came out of the Exchequer was accidental by a Contribution of the Country no Revenue of the Kings And if that had not been supplyed there had been no possibility of defraying the Ordinary Charges of the Crown out of the Revenue and that is the Point wherein I differ from the Gentleman his meaning being That the ordinary Revenue of the Kingdom could not bear the ordinary Charge of the Kingdom And I desire that Sir Adam Loftus and Sir Robert Dillom may be examined upon such questions as shall be propounded in this point And whereas it is said I was short in the Shipping I affirm that under favour I was not It is true that in the time of the late Justices my Lord of Corke and my Lord Loftus the last years Charge of the Shipping was paid forth of Ireland But it is as true that when the Kingdom underwent the Charge they lessened the Charge of the King's Army by striking 500 off from the Army and transferred the Charge of their pay to the easing of the King's Revenue on the Navy But that Charge being now increased again and brought to the former certainty I conceive I might truly say There was in my time an ease to the Crown of England all things considered which formerly it had not It being not with the prejudice of the King's Service elsewhere or lessening the standing Army which in all times hath been the strongest support of the King's Justice and Ministers there and which it deeply concerns the Crown of England to keep in such a Condition that they may be responsible to the King for the Services he shall Command So that though the Shipping Charge was paid the last year yet so paid that the King's Army was weakened 500 Foot whereas now it is paid and the King's Army raised to a certainty again and a Change is made to the better for instead of 500 Foot there is 600 Horse And that I say
till they were paid Henry Dillon affirmed That in my Lord of Cork's Tyrringham and Lord of Ely's time he had Warrants from them and the Council to gather money by laying Soldiers till it was paid Sir Arthur Tyrringham averred That by Warrant from the Lord Faulkland he had laid Soldiers upon a Debtor Lord Ranulagh till the Debt was paid but does not know whether it was the King's Debt Lord Ranulagh attested that it was the practice of the Lord of Cork and Ely to give Acquittances out of the Exchequer to Captains who if the money was not paid assessed Soldiers on the defaulters Then the Earl offered to prove That it was the desire of the Gentry themselves it might be so in the Lord Faulkland 's time but it was by Mr. Palmer agreed him from whence my Lord inferred That it disabled the first part of the Killing Charge That he should Traiterously and wickedly devise to subdue the Subjects of that Realm by levying Money on them The Earl then desired the 2d Article of the Lord Faulkland's Instructions might be read which was in haec verba For the Collecting of our Rents in cases of default that 1. a summoning Process shall Issue 2. The Pursivant sent 3. If this be not sufficient in case the same be not levyed then our Vice-Treasurer by Warrant of our Deputy and Council shall appoint a competent number of Soldiers of the next Garrison to be aiding to collect the Rents at the Charge of the Parties complained of having care that no man be burdened with a greater number of Soldiers than the Service shall necessarily require At Mr. Palmer's desire the first Article was read viz At the humble Request of Our Subjects We are graciously pleased to direct for the better preservation and ease of Our Subjects the Soldiers shall be called in c. and from what had been proved the Earl inferred That it could not be High-Treason for the King's Service to follow the King's direction and the constant practise of his Predecessors that he brought not the Custom in but found it there and that by Proclamation under the hands of the whole Council it was done for the Ease of the Countrey To the Testimony of Berne and Kenedy of the abuse of the Soldiers 1. he was not then in Ireland 2. he denies he ever gave Pigot such a Warrant and there is no proof of it That Pigot 's threatning Clear with a Warrant is no argument men often threaten most when they have least to shew Kennedy sayes he never saw the Warrant Savil 's Warrant is not produced that this great and mighty War on the King and his Subjects is one of the poorest Wars in Christendome for last Summer one sayes he knew Soldiers laid on one man that it was never complained of all the time he was in Ireland that the Warrant was to procure obedience to all the King's Courts Savil. and to secure the King 's Right He desired Savil might be demanded whether the Warrant granted him was not agreeable to former Precedents who affirmed his Predecessor told him he had received such a Warrant from the Lord Faulkland to sess Soldiers on the Land of Sir Thomas Fitzgerrard Henry Dillon attested Dillon that the Serjeant at Arms was an Officer as well to the Exchequer as Chancery and the last process is Attachment by the Serjeant as well between man and man as for the King Here Mr. Palmer speaking something which my Lord looked upon as an Interruption he desired no hasty words might be misinterpreted he speaking for his Life and Family and that the Gentlemen would do well not to put him out of his way but let him speak those few poor things he can for himself He then added that some wayes he is more qualified then an ordinary Person having the Honour to be his Majestie 's Deputy that by his Commission he was to govern according to the Customs of the Realm and this was Customary by all the former Governours that had it been Levying War there is a Statute 10 H. 6. c 17. Enacting That there shall be no War or Peace in the Land without the Deputie's Licence but all War or Peace to be made by the Lieutenant for the time being And as to the Stat. 18 H. 6. c. 3. That no Lord or other shall charge the King's Subjects c. 1. He hath heard it said that the King cannot be concluded in any Statute unless he be particularly named and consequently not his Chief Governour 2. He shall not lead or bring He hath done neither the Serjeant did it though under his Warrant 3. It speaks of bringing English Rebels or Irish Enemies c. But such are not the King's Soldiers sent to apprehend refractory Persons and for the King's Honour and Service 4. Practice is the best interpreter of Laws and notwithstanding this Statute the Governours have alwayes assessed Soldiers That it would be a hard Case that such an Old Law should be started contrary to Practice to destroy him and his Posterity but he believes he shall prove that Statute Repealed First By the 8 Ed. 4. c. 1. which Enacts That from the Sixth of March then next all Acts made within the Kingdom of England shall be in force in Ireland from the said time This therefore ratifies the Statute of 25 Ed. 3. which is the Statute of Treason and the Statute of 1 H. 4. which sayes nothing shall be Treason but what is within the Statute of 25 of Ed. 3. which repeals the 18 of H. 6. Secondly By the 10 H. 7. c. 29. whereby all the Statutes made in England before that time are made Laws in Ireland and all Laws contrary to these Laws are repealed but the Law urged is against 25 Ed. 3. 1 H. 4. and consequently repealed Next he produced a Statute of 11 Eliz. c. 7. for taking away Captains Ships and that none of the Great Men shall make War or Peace c. Sess nor lead the People without the Great Seal or Warrant from the Lord Deputy so that here is a power in the Deputy to assess c. without being a Traytor That to the Clause of 25 Ed. 3. if any man levy War against the King in his Realm or adhere to his Enemies c. he appeals to their Lordships as in their own Case whether 2 or 3 poor Soldiers sent to bring an Offender liable to the King's Justice can by any construction be levying War against the King and his People or rather for the Honour and Authority and Justice of the King and not adhering to his Enemies but this point of Law he desired to refer to his Council to urge for him with more advantage than he could himself being out of his profession To this Mr. Palmer replyed That there can be no Custom or legal usage Managers reply contrary to an Act of Parliament that those usages were by consent but this of my Lord 's against
Subjects of the Scotish Nation inhabiting in Ireland for the Covenant sworn by some of their Countrey-men in Scotland without His Majesties Authority and Consent Their dislike thereof and the consideration that their causes of that action may be understood to reflect on the Petitioners though innocent They crave leave to vindicate themselves from so great a Contagion and desire his Lordship to prescribe a way by Oath or otherwise to free themselves from these proceedings to declare their acknowledgment of the King 's Regal Power and their dislike of that Covenant and of all other Covenants entred into c. without His Majesties Regal Authority which they are desirous to manifest by offering their Lives and Fortunes to vindicate the Honor c. of their Sovereign which they are ready to do in equal manner and measure with other His Majesties Subjects c. and divers names were to the said Petition subscribed In consideration of which Petition we cannot but commend the Wisdom of the Petitioners which we will not fail humbly to represent to His Majesty and for that we know many of this Kingdom have expressed good Affection to His Majesty and His Service and dislike those Disorders We hold it fit c. to free them the better from the Crimes and Scandals which their Countrey-men have gone into as also to free them from all prejudice and to approve to the King and to the whole World their Allegiance to him and his Regal Power and the dislike of that unlawful Oath and Covenant We do therefore Ordain That all and every Person of the Scotch Nation that inhabit or have Estates or any Houses Lands Tenements or Hereditaments within Ireland shall take the Oath herein expressed on the Holy Evangelists on pain of His Majesties High Displeasure The tenor of which Oath follows c. To several select persons c. Authorizing them to call before them and administer the Oath to every person of the Scotch Nation c. At such time and place c. And such Instructions as shall be in that behalf given by the Deputy and Council c. And to certifie the Names of all that take the Oath and if any refuse to certifie their Names Quality and Residences to the Lord Deputy c. And there is a Command That all of the Scotch Nation do appear before the said Commissioners at times by them to be appointed and to take the said Oath before them and that all persons may have due notice we think fit this be published Dated May 1639. To prove the Design of betraying Knockfergus Slingsby Mr. Slingsby Examined attested That it was Advertized that when the King was at Berwick one Trueman had writ a Letter for betraying the Castle there he was sent to Dublin and Examined remanded back Tryed found Guilty Condemned and Executed for the Fact My Lord added further That at the same time there was the like Oath and proceedings in England That what he did was for securing the Peace of Ireland and had it been done by himself solely as Deputy he humbly conceives it no Treason but he had the King's Letter of his own hand-writing which he produced as followeth WENTWORTH COnsidering the great number of Scots that are in Ireland The King's Letter to the Lord-Deputy about the Oath and the dangerous consequences may follow if they should joyn with the Covenanters in Scotland I hold it necessary you should use your best Endeavour to try them by an Oath not only to disclaim their Countreymens Proceedings but likewise never to joyn with any in Covenant or otherwise against Me To which purpose I Command you to frame and administer such an Oath to the abovesaid intent to my Scotish Subjects of that Kingdom that I may know the well from the ill-affected of that Nation of which fail not as you love my Service And so I rest Your assured Friend Ch. R. Dated 16 Jan. 1638. Whitehall That therefore having his Majesties Warrant he conceives doth justifie him and that he had rather suffer by his Obedience then dispute his Majestie 's Command As to the Fining of Stuart c. it was the Act of the whole Court of Castle-Chamber where he had but one Vote the greatness of the Fine was to shew the greatness of the Crime and that little of it was paid that to refuse the Oath of Allegiance is Praemunire in comparison of which this was a moderate Fine That there is nothing of Ecclesiastical concern but temporal Allegiance in the Oath To the words about the Scottish Nation he absolutely denied he ever spake them or thought them he owes more Honour to His Majestie 's Native Countrey and from his Soul wisheth it all Prosperity that he must be out of his Witts to call a whole Nation Traytors knowing many of them to be faithful Loyal Subjects whatever he spake was concerning the Faction in it as to the multitudes going away Sir John Clotworthy names not one of that multitude and if they did go rather then give that Pledg of their Allegiance who could help it As to the Schoolmaster 's Testimony he is positive that my Lord spoke the rancorous Words against the Scottish Nation Octob. 10. 1639. but he proved by Mr. Little and Mr. Ralton that he came from Ireland Sept. 12. 1639. a month before and was in London Sept. 21. 1639. and therefore being a single Witness and Evidently swearing false in the first part he hopes their Lordships will credit him accordingly As to the last he having not yet learned his Lesson perfectly that Loftus makes it another thing swearing the Earl said He hoped to root c. such as would not submit to the Ecclesiastical Orders whereas there are few of the Scottish Nation that do not submit He then produced Sir Philip Manwaring who attested Sir Philip Manwaring That he heard the whole Speech and that my Lord spoke only against a Faction of the Scottish Nation whom he would endeavour to bring to Obedience and that he Explained himself to speak of those of Ireland not of Scotland whose Laws and Customs he did not understand and that he heard not one word of Root and Branch or Stock and Branch but that he heard Mr. Wainsford Master of the Rolls commend my Lord for his Caution that he had reflected on the Faction not on the Nation Then my Lord concluded That he hoped nothing was proved against him of Treason for if Obeying Commands in this Case be so he confessed being not better informed if it were to do again he should be that Traitor over again Mr. Whitlock presently laid hold of this and said Managers Reply This justifying his Offence against Law in that Great Presence was a great aggravation of his Crime That it is well known a new Oath cannot be imposed without Assent in Parliament it is Legislativa Potestas That he obtained the King's Letter upon Mis-information As to Steward 's Sentence his fault is the
ready to assist His Majesty in any other way Sir Robert King deposed to Sir George Ratcliff's words about 30000 men and 400000 l and that the King could not want Money Sir Rob. King he had an Army The Lord Ranulagh deposed to the same Effect concerning Sir George Radcliff Lord Ranulagh Sir Tho. Barrington deposed Sir Thomas Barrington That on private discourse about the Parliament Sir George Wentworth said The Commonwealth was sick of Peace and will not be well till it be Conquered again Sir Robert King further said That the Lord Ranulagh was displeased at Sir George Ratcliff 's words conceiving it was an intention to raise Money forcibly in England and that they must turn their Swords upon them from whom they were descended and cut their Throats for their own Safety which the Earl confirmed by offering to sell the said Lord his Estate in Ireland though he thought they would be quieter there than in England From whence the Managers inferred his Design was against England To prove this Design Sir Tho. Jermin deposed Sir Thomas Jermin That he heard my Lord Strafford say something of the Parliaments forsaking the King The Earl of Bristol deposed The Earl of Bristol That discoursing of the Distractions of the Times the Mutiny of the Soldiers and Danger of a War with Scotland he proposed the Summoning a new Parliament as the best way to prevent those Desperate Vndertakings which discourse and his Reasons my Lord Strafford seemed not to dislike but said He thought it not counselable at that time in regard of the slow Proceedings of Parliaments and the real and pressing Dangers and that the Parliament had refused Supplies and therefore the King was to provide for the Safety of the Kingdom Salus Reipublicae being Suprema Lex and that the King must not suffer himself to be mastered by the stubborness and undutifulness of his people or rather Stubberness and disaffection of some particular men meaning some Members of Parliament as he conceives being discoursing of the Parliament The Lord Newborough deposed That he heard words to this Effect Lord Newborough That seeing the Parliament had not supplyed the King His Majesty might take other courses for Defence of the Kingdom But thô he cannot swear the Earl spake these words Earl of Holland he verily believes he heard him speak something to that purpose The Earl of Holland deposed much to the same Purport Then they proceeded to the 23. Article and the Examination of the Earl of Northumberland was read That in case of Necessity for Defence of the Kingdom if the People refuse to Supply the King the King is absolved from Rules of Government and that every thing is to be done for the Preservation of the King and his People and that by some discourses to His Majesty he believes if the King was not supplyed by Parliament some Course was intended to raise Money by Extraordinary wayes but that the Irish Army was to land in the West of Scotland and he hath not heard that these Forces were to be imployed in England to compel or awe the Subjects to pay Taxes imposed Sir Henry Vane deposed Sir Hen. Vane That upon debate of the Question Whether Offensive or Defensive War the Earl said Your Majesty having tryed all wayes and being refused in case of Extream Necessity for the Safety of the Kingdom you are loose and absolved from all Rules of Government you are acquitted before God and Man You have an Army in Ireland you may imploy it to reduce this Kingdom But he will not interpret whether my Lord meant England or Scotland but afterwards he said positively to reduce this Kingdom applying it to England Mr. Whitlock summed up the Evidence That it was clear my Lord of Strafford had a strong Design and Endeavour to Subvert the Fundamental Laws and Government of England and to bring in an Army upon us to force this Kingdom to submit to an Arbitrary Power That he would not aggravate these words which were to allay them having in them more Bitterness and Horror than he is able to Express After some little pause The Earl's Defence the Earl made his Defence And first to the Earl of Traquair's Deposition the said Earl sayes That it was the Resolution of the Council-Board and that he gave his Vote among the other Lords That if the Commissioners of Scotland gave not Satisfaction the King might put himself into a posture of War So that his Opinion was the same with the rest and he thinks himself in great Safety having the Concomitant Opinion of so many wiser Persons than himself And for the Earl of Moreton 's Deposition he hopes when the Council of England had resolved it it was no great Crime for him to say That the unreasonable Demands of Subjects in Parliament was a good ground for the King to put himself into a posture of Defence and for his saying it was not Religion but the Root of Government they strook at that he thinks he and every man that thought so had reason to say as he did As to Sir H. Vane the War being resolved and whether Offensive or Defensive the Question he hopes it is not Treasonable for a Privy Councellor to give his Opinion according to his Conscience to do so being their Duty and according to their Oaths and that he was as free to give his Reasons one way as any other person another As to the seizing the Ships Barnwell 's Testimony is only by hearsay but he will inform their Lordships by proof that the Scots Ships were stayed by the Lord Admiral 's Warrant which Mr. Slingsby attested so that the Earl said it might appear he was no such Stirrer or Incendiary between the King and his Subjects as he was represented To the 21 Article and the Lord Primate's Examination about the King 's using his Prerogative it is but singularis testis and only in way of Argument but that the words fairly construed and clearly understood have no ill sence for the King may use his Prerogative as he pleases because the King's Pleasure is always just and to think the King will use his Prerogative otherwise were a high Offence or to think he will use his Prerogative otherwise then as befits a Christian and Pious King To my Lord Conway 's Testimony That the King might help himself though it were against their Will He answered That to help a man's self is Natural for Self is the last Creature that leaves any person and what is natural to every man is so to the King who is accountable not only for Himself but his People To Mr. Secretary Vane 's Testimony That if the Parliament should not succeed he would be ready to assist His Majesty any other way He sees not where the heynousness or venom of the words is to endanger his Life and Honor and he conceives Mr. Treasurer said as much and the Wayes the King could command
or he serve him in he took to be lawful wayes and that in all Debates he concluded That the safest and surest Expedient was a Parliament to make both the King and People Happy As to his procuring the Parliament of Ireland to declare their Assistance in a War against the Scots he desired the Remonstrance of the Parliament before the 4. Subsidies might be read which was THat whereas they have with one Consent cleerly given to His Majesty Part of the Remonstrance of Parliament in Ireland about War with the Scots Four entire Subsidies towards His present Preparations to reduce His Disaffected Subjects the Covenanters in Scotland to their due Obedience They still hope that His Majesties great Wisdom and unexampled Clemency may yet prevail with the worse affected of those His Subjects to bring them to that conformity and submission which by the Laws of God and Nature they owe to him But if His Majesty shall be enforced to use His Power to vindicate His just Authority This House for Themselves and the Commons of this Kingdom do profess That their Zeal and Duty shall not stay here at these Four Subsidies but humbly promise That they will be ready with their Persons and Estates to their uttermost ability for His Majesties future Supply in Parliament as His great Occasions by the continuance of His Forces against that distemper shall require This they pray that it may be represented to His Majesty by the Lord Lieutenant and Recorded as an Ordinance of Parliament and published in Print as a Testimony to all the World and succeeding Ages That as this Kingdom hath the happiness to be Governed by the best of Kings so they desire to give cause That he shall account this People among the best of His Subjects If he had procured this Declaration it had been no Crime but he had no part in it but it was their own voluntary free and chearful Action For the Confederacy charged between him and Sir George Radcliff to bring over the Irish Army to destroy England if it be made appear that he had so much as a thought of it he would give Judgment against himself as unworthy to live who would enslave himself and his Posterity That he hath a Heart that loves Freedom as well as another man and values it as highly and in a modest and dutiful way will go as far to defend it it is an Opinion he learnt in the Honourable House of Commons That to stand for Property and Liberty renders a man the best Subject That this Opinion hath gone along with him ever since and he hopes he shall carry it to his Grave That what is deposed by Sir Robert King and Lord Ranulagh as to Sir George Ratcliff cannot affect him since the meanest Subject in the Kingdom cannot commit Treason by Letter of Attorney And it is a priviledg which though he hath the honour to be a Peer he never desires to do it by Proxy and that the Army was never intended to set foot on English Ground Earl of Northumberland he desires my Lord Northumberland 's Examination may witness for him by which it appeared they were designed for the West of Scotland nor did he ever hear of any Design of reducing the Subjects of England by that Army Marquess Hamilton Sir Tho. Lucas Mr. Slingsby The Lord Marquess Hamilton also attested the same Sir Tho. Lucas Serjeant Major General of the King's Horse attested the same Mr. Slingsby who was of the Councel of War affirmed the design was to land them at Ayre in Scotland and that he had order to provide a Magazine Shipping and Flat-Bottom Boats for that Design and that he had a Coast Map drawn of that Place for that purpose Sir William Pennyman also attested Sir William Pennyman That some of the Lords Petitioning the Irish Army might not land in England my Lord Strafford told him He wondred at it for there never was any such intention As to the Testimony of his Brother deposed by Sir Tho. Barrington That England would never be well till it was conquered again he observed That his Brother his Friends his Table his House his Bed every place is searched to convince him of that which he thanked God he was never guilty of That what his Brother sayes is nothing to him and he desired he might be Examined but Mr. Maynard opposed it as tending to clear himself and so he was not heard The discourse between my Lord Bristol and himself he confesses but that what he said was in case of Extream Necessity as Invasion when there is not time to call a Parliament he conceives the King being accountable to God Almighty for Himself and People he may Use his Power And for the other words That the King is not to be Mastered by the frowardness c. he does not remember it but relyes so on the Honour of my Lord Bristol that he affirming it he will not deny it but reserves to himself in this case the Benefit of the Law that it is but a single Testimony He owns what my Lord Newborough deposed and thinks the King is not secluded more then another person from doing the best for himself in a fair and just and honourable way The same he sayes to my Lord of Holland 's Deposition That it is grounded upon Salus Populi Suprema Lex and speaking it as he did with these Limitations doth quite alter the Case besides that these discourses were private and rather argumentative and problematical then positive and to make these Treason were to debar men the joy and comfort of human society But all this while these were but words which by Act of Parliament though much higher are not Treason citing a Clause of 1 Ed. 6. c. 12. Be it Enacted by c. if any Person or Persons do compass and imagine by open Preaching Express words or Saying to depose or deprive the King his Heirs or Successors from his or their Royal Estate or Title or openly publish or say by Express words or saying That any other Person or Persons other then the King his Heirs or Successors of Right ought to be c. yet the first and second offences are not made Treason but only the third That it was the wisdom of their Lordships Noble Ancestors to chain up this Lion by concluding what is Treason and not to suffer him to tear us all in pieces by Arbitrary Treason which would make actions of Treason more common than Actions of Trespass To the words charged in the 23d Article spoken at Council Board or Committee of Scotch affairs of the King 's being absolved from all Rules of Government c. Mr. Treasurer who deposed them hath reversed his Testimony saying first Your Majesty hath an Army in Ireland which you may employ there Afterwards upon being Ordered to repeat his Testimony he said which you may employ in England and whereas he calls in aid of my Lord of Northumberland his Lordship
the Kingdom depends on this Fail not in the speedy execution thereof as you will answer to the contrary on peril of your life Dated the last of August 1640. Mr. Glyn then said The 28 Article being still behind they are not yet resolved whether to proceed or not but they desire another day to be heard having something more to say And then the Court was adjourned and the next day appointed at 8 of the Clock Thus far in the Trial of this Noble Lord I have followed the traces of the Journals the Printed Trial by Mr. Rushworth and a Manuscript which I have by me which was found in the Chamber of a Worthy Gentleman a Fellow of Queens College in Cambridge being in the times of the Persecution hid there for upon taking up the boards to new lay the floor of the Room the Work-men found it the Author who ever he was saith he was an Eye and Ear-Witness to the whole Transaction and averrs his account in the Matters of Fact to be just and Faithfull And therefore Mr. Rushworth having not done intire right to the Memory of that Great Man wholly omitting the further proceedings till the summing up the Evidence by my Lord and the Replies upon it together with many Remarkable Circumstances conducing to the better understanding of the Management of that affair I thought my self obliged out of the Justice that is due to truth to supply those Omissions from the Relation of the said Manuscript and the concurrent Testimonies of the Journals and other Papers written and printed at that time upon this Occasion Upon Thursday the Committee of Managers having declared Thursday April 8. that for some private Reasons they would wave the Debate of the 28th Article Sir Walter Earle offered some observations upon the 22d Article and desired to be heard by their Lordships conceiving they would do much to strengthen the Evidence whereby they had endeavoured to prove that the Earl of Strafford had real designs of Landing the Irish Army in England in Order to prove what was charged upon him to the subduing of this Kingdom Though as my Author sayes had Sir Walter consulted his own Reputation which by so weak a Charge suffered more then the Earl's against whom it was intended he might with more advantage both to himself and the cause he managed have better spared his endeavours His Reasons were these First that it appears by the Earl's Commission and Instructions that he had power to Land his Army either in Wales or in any part of England or Scotland according to his Discretion and from thence he inferred that this Clause was wholly superfluous unless there had been some such Purpose or Design intended Secondly That two dayes before the Date of the said Commission Letters were dispatched to the Earl's of Bridgwater and Pembroke from Sir Francis Windebank Secretary of State to assist my Lord of Worcester in Levying Forces for the King's Service and these might well be supposed to have been intended to joyn with the Irish Army upon their Landing Thirdly That my Lord Ranulagh at the raising of the Irish Army had expressed some fears of such a design and Intention for the imploying of that Army Fourthly That the Town of Ayre in Scotland where the Lord Strafford pretended to Land the Irish Forces was fortified with Bullwarks a Garrison and a Block-House which would prohibit his landing there and that the Barr or entrance into the Haven was very dangerous and shallow That the Earl of Argyle 's bounds were a great way distant and divided from thence by the Sea The only proof of this was the reading of the Commission granted to the Earl of Strafford To this the Earl replied That his Commission was the same verbatim The Earl's Defence with my Lord of Northumberland 's for England that it was drawn up by the Council-Board here and sent over to him so that it could be no worse design in him then in the Earl of Northumberland Lord General of the English Army nor any larger Power given him by it then to my Lord General That as to the Letters to the Earl's of Pembroke and Bridgwater this was the first time that he ever heard of such Letters nor did they concern him more then any other Member of the House and for my Lord Ranulagh he was not bound to purge him of all his fears that he had his own fears too which God forbid should be evidence of Treason against any person whatsoever That it seemed the Gentleman had better information from the Kingdom of Scotland than himself yet he would be confident to say there was never such a thing as a Block-House nor then any Garrison at Aire but to remove all Scruples for indeed the Road or Landing place is not there safe he declared that it was his Intention to have Landed some Miles above Aire and to have made himself Master of the Town and then to have made it a Magazine and for the Earl of Argyle 's Bounds he hoped the Gentlemen knew that they were not to come on foot out of Ireland but had Ships to waft and transport themselves and that one of the Earl of Argyle 's prime Houses at Rosneth was within some few Miles of the same Frith The Lord Digby seeing Sir Walter Earle on ground did handsomly bring him off and told the Lords That all their proofs for that Article were not yet ready and that this was only a Superfaetation of the Charge and that in such a matter of Treason they must sometimes content themselves to make use of dark Probabilities Mr. Glyn then moved That the Earl might resume his Defences and summ up the Charge that so the Process might be closed as to matter of Fact To which the Earl replyed That in his Circumstances all slackness was speed enough that the matter touched him narrowly in no less then his Life and Estate and which he valued much above them his Honour and Posterity and he confessed he had no desire to ride Post in an Affair of that Nature and Consequence to him and that he did verily believe that the Gentlemen at the Bar if they were in his Case would think all the time they could obtain little enough except their greater Abilities and abler Judgments could sooner dispatch the matter then he found himself able to do and therefore he humbly applyed himself to their Lordships that the Remainder of that day might be granted him to recover his wasted strength and recollect his Thoughts and Spirits and that to morrow he would make his last Reply for himself This was opposed by the Committee as very prejudicial Expensive of time and that it was only to spin out unnecessary Delayes but after above an Hours debate the Lords thought it convenient to grant his Lordship that Liberty and it was Ordered he should appear the next Day Upon Friday morning about 8 of the Clock the Lieutenant of the Tower Friday April 9. and
Causes for a man can scarce think of a Cause which is not comprehended within the Instructions obtained after his coming thither but I shall put your Lordship in mind of two clauses of the Instructions procured in the Eighth year of this King and after he was President that is the Clause of Habeas Corpus and Prohibitions that no man should obtain a Prohibition to stay any Suit that should be commenced before him in the Council of York That if any man should be imprisoned by any Process out of that Court he must have no Habeas Corpus A Prohibition is the only means to vindicate the estate of the Subject if it be questioned without Authority A Habeas Corpus is the only means to vindicate his Liberty if he be detained without Law but these doors must be shut against the King's Subjects that if either they be questioned or restrained before him there must be no relief How far he could go further I am to seek there being no means for the Subject to relieve himself if he be questioned for his Estate without Authority no means to redeem himself if his person be imprisoned without Law And he had so incircled himself about that if the Judges should find the party that returns not the Habeas Corpus according to Law there was a Power and a Warrant by the Instructions to the Barons to discharge the Officers of that Fine And now I refer it to your Lordships judgments Whether this be not to draw an Arbitrary Power to himself For the execution of this Power it is true it is proved to be before the Instructions in the Eighth year of the King but then it riseth the more in judgement against him for your Lordships have heard how he went into a grave Judge's Chamber blaming him for giving way to a Prohibition granting Attachments against one that moved for a Prohibition and though this was done before the Instructions were granted yet the Instructions coming at the heels of it sheweth his disposition and resolution more clearly for he acts it first and then procures this colour to protect it and though he pretends there was no proof yet I must put your Lordships in mind that when these things were in question concerning the apprehension of a Knight by a Sergeant at Arms he kneels to His Majesty That this defect might be supplyed and this jurisdiction maintained else he might go to his own Cottage And here being the just commencement of his greatness if you look to the second it follows That at the publick Assizes he declared That some were all for Law but they should find the King 's little finger heavier than the loins of the Law He did not say it was so but he infused it as much as he could into the hearts of the King's People that they should find it so and so he reflects upon the King and upon his People the words are proved And to speak them in such a presence and at such a time before the Judges and Countrey assembled they were so dangerous and so high expressions of an intention to counsel the King or act it himself to exercise an Arbitrary Government above the weight of the Law as possibly could be exprest by words And this is proved by five Witnesses and not disproved nor is any colour of disproof offered but only by Sir William Pennyman who says he heard other words but not that he heard not these words If he doth he must give me leave not to believe him for five affirmations will weigh down the proof of a thousand negatives He stays not long in England with this Power though while he stays you hear how he vexes the Subject but then he goes into Ireland and as his authority increases so he ampliates his design and no sooner is he there but the third Article is laid to his charge That when the City and Recorder of Dublin the principal City of Ireland presented the Mayor upon a solemn Speech and Discourse concerning the Laws and Liberties as your Lordships know that is the subject matter of a Speech at such presentments as when the Lord Mayor of London is presented to the King I beseech your Lordships observe the words he then used They were a Conquered Nation and that we lay not to his charge but they were to be governed as the King pleases their Charters were nothing worth and bind but during the King's pleasure I am to seek if I were to express an Arbitrary Power and Tyrannical Government how to express it in finer words and more significant terms than these That the People shall be governed at the King's Will that their Charters the sinews and ligatures of their Liberties Lands and Estates should be nothing worth and bind no longer than the King's pleasure especially being spoken upon such an occasion and the words proved by two or three Witnesses of Credit and Quality From thence we descend to Articles that shew the execution of his purpose There are three things a man enjoys by the protection of the Law that is his Life his Liberty and his Estate And now my Lords observe how he invades and exercises a Tyrannical Jurisdiction and Arbitrary Government over them all three I shall begin with the fifth Article that is concerning my Lord Mountnorris and Denwit My Lord Mountnorris a Peer of that Realm was sentenced to death by procurement of my Lord of Strafford who howsoever he pretends himself not to be a Judge in the cause yet how far he was an Abettor and Procurer and Countenancer and drawer on of that Sentence your Lordships very well remember he was sentenced to death without Law for speaking words at a private Table God knows of no manner of consequence in the World concerning the treading upon my Lord of Strafford 's Toe the Sentence procured seven months after the words spoken and contrary to Law and himself being put in mind of it my Lord Mountnorris desiring to have the benefit of the Law and yet he refusing it And then it was in time of Peace when all the Courts of Justice were open and to sentence a man to death of that Quality my Lord of Strafford himself being present an author a drawer on of it makes it very hainous Your Lordships remember this Article was fully proved and though he pretends His Authority by a Letter from His Majesty I shall in due time give a full answer to that so that it shall rise up in Judgment against him to aggravate his offence and that in a great measure Here he exercises a power over Life his excuse was That he procured a Pardon for my Lord Mountnorris but the Power was exercised and the Tyranny appeared to be the more He would first sentence him to death and then rejoyce in his Power that he might say There remains no more but my Command to the Provost Marshal to do execution To exercise a power over his life and to abuse him
surely my Lord of Strafford would not have omitted it if it had been for his advantage especially in this presence where he omits nothing to clear himself or to insinuate with his Majesty Now I come to the Thirteenth Article the Article concerning Flax which I know is fresh in your Lordships memories and I believe will be so in the memories of the Subjects of Ireland for many years how he ingrossed it into his hands and interrupted the Trade of the poor people whereby such miseries and calamities befell many of that Nation that as you have heard it proved thousands dye in ditches for want of Bread to put in their mouths And whereas he pretends that this was proved but by one Witness and that man to be imprisoned and of no Credit though he was his own instrument your Lordships remember Sir John Clotworthy his testimony and anothers and his own Warrant produced and acknowledged here to justifie the execution of it and such a thing was thereby taken into his own hands that I profess I never heard the like that the poor people should be constrained to use their own as he pleased and that pleasing of himself laid an impossibility on the people to execute his pleasure which was a bondage exceeding that of the Israelites under the Egyptians for there was not laid so much upon the Children of Israel but there was a possibility to perform they might with much labour perchance get stubble to burn their Brick but the Natives here must have a charge laid upon them without possibility to perform and the disobedience must cost them no less than the loss of their Goods which drew with it even the loss of their lives for want of bread This was not proved by only one Witness but by many And your Lordships remember the remonstrance of that Parliament of Ireland which declares it to a greater height than I have opened it The Fifteenth Article is that of Levying War upon the King's Subjects expresly within the Statute of 25 Edw. 3. and 18 H. 6. Your Lordships have heard the Warrant proved by the party himself to whom it was directed whereby Power was given to lay Soldiers upon any party that did not obey my Lord of Strafford's Orders at the Council-Table but not to circumscribe him to a certain number but the Sergeant at Arms and his Ministers might lay as many as they would It is true this Warrant was not it self produced but a copy was offered which was not read and therefore I will not offer it to be proved but the party that executed the Warrant it self proves it to be under the Hand and Seal of my Lord of Strafford he proves the express authority of it which was to the effect I opened three or four more who saw and read it proved the same and that it was under the Hand and Seal of my Lord of Strafford that accordingly it was executed upon divers of the King's Subjects it was proved by three Witnesses expresly in the point how by colour of this Warrant the Sergeant at Arms and his Officers sent Soldiers to lye in the Houses and Lands of the King's Subjects how the Owners were thereby forced out from their own Habitation how their Goods were wasted and devoured their Corn and Victuals eaten up and the Soldiers never left them as long as any part of their Estates remained to maintain them My Lord of Strafford's defence is That it hath been used before his time in Ireland wherein he hath again misrecited for he did not offer a proof nor a particle of a proof that ever any man did know Soldiers laid upon any party for refusing to appear to a Warrant or for other contempt at Council-Table before himself did it but he offered to prove That formerly Soldiers were sent against Rebels and that after they were declared to be Rebels and that justly too and he proved an use and custom to force men to pay Contribution-money due to the King but that was by consent of the people who granted a Contribution of 20000 l. a year for increase of the King's Revenue and that it might not be upon Record in the Exchequer and so claimed as due in time to come they consented that Soldiers should be laid upon them that refused it and the word Consent is within the Statute of 18 H. 6. Again did he prove all manner of Rents were levyed by Soldiers no such thing but such Rents as were designed for the payment of the Army he proved by Sir Arthur Terringham the laying of Soldiers once for the payment of a summ of Money but Sir Arthur being demanded whether it were the King's Rents or comprehended within the same general Rule he could make no answer thereunto Your Lordships remember he says He did not know it and therefore probably it was the King's Rents and doubtless it was so But if he had produced Precedents it could not be an authority for Treason that if people did not appear to his Orders he must levy War against the King's Subjects and for his extenuation of the War that the same was of no great danger there being not above five or six Soldiers laid at a time I would to God the people oppressed by it had cause to undervalue it I am sure four or six Musqueteers are as strong to oppress a man as four thousand so the matter of Fact is strongly and expresly proved Besides though there came not above four or five to a house yet the authority given to the Sergeant was general he might have brought more if he had listed and in truth he brought as many as the Estate of the party would maintain And as to the not producing of the Warrant I have already answered it If it were in the Case of a Deed wherein men call for Witnesses it were something but God forbid that the Treason should be gone and the Traytor not questionable if his Warrant can be once put out of the way The next Article which is laid to his Charge is For issuing out a Proclamation and Warrant of restraint to inhibit the King's Subjects to come to the Fountain their Soveraign to deliver their complaints of their wrongs and oppressions Your Lordships have heard how he hath exercised his jurisdiction and now he raises a battery to secure and make it safe If he do wrong perhaps the complaint may come to the Gracious Ears of a King who is ready to give relief and therefore he must stop these cries and prevent these means that he may go on without interruption and to that end he makes Propositions here That the King's Subjects in Ireland should not come over to make complaint against Ministers of State before an Address first made to himself It is true he makes a fair pretence and shew for it and had just cause of approbation if he intended what he pretended But as soon as he came into Ireland what use made he of it he ingrosses
200 l. These if done upon these private ends alone had not been a Treason as appears by the very words of the Statute of 25 Edw. 3. before mentioned of marching openly or secretly But my Lords these of Cambridge and Bridgewater they were of the conspiracy with the Villains as appears in the Parliament Roll of the First year of Richard the 2d Number 311. and 32. where the Towns of Cambridge and Bridgwater are expresly excepted out of the general Pardon made to the Villains this being done in reference to that design of the Villains of altering the Laws this was that which made it Treason If the design went no further than the enforcing Obedience to these Paper-Orders made by himself it was sufficient it was to subvert one fundamental part of the Law nay in effect the whole Law what use of Law if he might order and determine of Mens Estates at his own pleasure This was against the Law notoriously declared in Ireland In the close Roll in the Tower in the 25th year of Edward the 1. a Writ went to the Justices in Ireland that Kingdom at that time was governed by Justices declaring That upon Petitions they were not to determine any Titles between party and party upon any pretence of profit whatsoever to the King In the Eight and twentieth year of Hen. the 6th Chap. 2. Suits in Equity not before the Deputy but in Chancery Suits at Common-Law not before him but in cases of Life in the Kings-Bench for Title of Lands or Goods in the proper Courts of the Kings-Bench or Common-Pleas This declared in the Instructions for Ireland in the latter end of King James His time and by the Proclamation in His Majesties time my Lord took notice of them called the Commissioners narrow-hearted Commissioners The Law said He should not thus proceed in the subversion of it he saith he will and will enforce Obedience by the Army this is as much in respect of the end as to endeavour the overthrow of the Statutes of Labourers of Victuals or of Merton for Inclosures here is a Warrant against the King in respect of the end Secondly In respect of the Actions whether there be either a Levying of War or an open Deed or both My Lords There was an Army in Ireland at that time of Two thousand Horse and Foot by this Warrant there is a full designation of this whole Army and an Assignment of it over to Savil for this purpose The Warrant gives him power from time to time to take as many Soldiers Horse and Foot with an Officer throughout the whole Army as himself shall please here is the terror and awe of the whole Army to enforce Obedience My Lords If the Earl had Armed two thousand men Horse and Foot and formed them into Companies to this end your Lordships would have conceived that this had been a War It 's as much as in the Case of Sir Thomas Talbot who armed them in Assemblies This is the same with a breach of Trust added to it That Army which was first raised and afterwards committed to his Trust for the Defence of the People is now destined by him to their destruction This assignation of the Army by his Warrant under his Hand and Seal is an open Act. My Lords Here 's not only an open Act done but a Levying of War Soldiers both Horse and Foot with an Officer in Warlike manner assessed upon the Subject which killed their Cattel consumed and wasted their Goods Your Lordships observe a great difference where six men go upon a design alone and when sent from an Army of six hundred all engaged in the same service so many were sent as were sufficient to execute the Command if upon a poor man fewer more upon a rich if the six had not been able the whole Army must make it good The reason that the Sheriff directed alone or but with one Bayliff to do execution is because he hath the Command of the Law the King 's Writ and the Posse Comitatus in case of resistance Here 's the Warrant of a General of an Army Here 's the Posse Exercitus the Power of the Army under the awe of the whole Army six may force more then sixty without it and although never above six in one place yet in several parts of the Kingdom at the same time might be above sixty for sessing of Soldiers was frequent it was the ordinary course for execution of his Orders The Lord-Lieutenant of a County in England hath a design to alter the Laws and Government nay admit the design goes not so high he only declares thus much he will order the Freeholders and Estates of the Inhabitants of the County at his own will and Pleasure and doth accordingly proceed upon Paper-Petitions foreseeing there will be disobedience he grants out Warrants under his Hand and Seal to the Deputy-Lieutenants and Captains of the Trained-bands that upon refusal they will take such number of the Trained-bands through the County with Officers as they shall think good and lay them upon the Lands and Houses of the refusers Soldiers in a Warlike manner are frequently sessed upon them accordingly your Lordships do conceive that this is a Levying of War within the Statute The Case in question goes further in these two Respects That it is more against the declared Law in Ireland not only against the Common-Law but likewise against the Statute of 28 Hen. 6th against the Acts of the Commissioners against Proclamations in persuance of the Law against that himself took notice of narrow-hearted Commissioners In this that here was an Army the Soldiers by profession Acts of Hostility from them of greater terror than from Freeholders of the same County My Lords I have now done with the First of Levying of War The Second is the Machination the advising of a War The Case in this rests upon a Warrant to Savile and the advice in the 23 Article The Warrant shews a resolution of imploying the old Army of Ireland to the oppression of his Majesties Subjects and the Laws In the 23d Article having told his Majesty that he was loosed and absolved from Rules of Government and might do every thing which Power might admit he proceeded further in Speech to his Majesty in these words You have an Army in Ireland you may employ to reduce this Kingdom My Lords Both being put together there 's a Machination a practise and advice to Levy War and by force to oppress and destroy his Majesties Subjects It hath been said the Statute of the 25 Edw. 3. is a penal Law and cannot be taken by equity and construction there must be an actual War the Statute makes it Treason to counterfeit the King's Coin the conspiring the raising of Furnaces is no Treason unless he doth Nummum percutere actually Coin My Lords This is only said not proved the Law is otherwise the 19th Hen. 6. fol. 49. there adjudged That the conspiring and aiding to
Irish Statute or Custom Object But it will be said that Writs of Error are only upon failure of justice in Ireland and that suits cannot originally be commenced here for things done in Ireland because the Kings Writ runs not in Ireland Answ This might be a good Plea in the Kings-Bench and inferior Courts at Westminster-Hall the question is Whether it be so in Parliament The Kings Writ runs not within the County-Palatine of Chester and Durham nor within the Five Ports neither did it in Wales before the Union of Henry the 8th's time after the Laws of England were brought into Wales in King Edw. the 1. time Suits were not originally commenced at Westminster-Hall for things done in them yet this never excluded the Parliament-suits for Life Lands and Goods within these jurisdictions are determinable in Parliament as well as in any other parts of the Realm Ireland as appears by the Statute of the Thirtieth year of Henry 3. before-mentioned is united to the Crown of England By the Statute of the Eight and twentieth year of Hen. 6th in Ireland it is declared in these words That Ireland is the proper Dominion of England and united to the Crown of England which Crown of England is of it self and by it self wholly and intirely endowed with all Power and Authority sufficient to yield to the Subjects of the same full and plenary remedy in all Debates and Suits whatsoever By the Statute of the Three and twentieth year of Henry the 8th the first Chapter when the Kings of England first assumed the Title of King of Ireland it is there Enacted that Ireland still is to be held as a Crown annexed and united to the Crown of England So that by the same reason from this that the Kings Writs run not in Ireland it might as well be held that the Parliament cannot originally hold Plea of things done within the County-Palatine of Chester and Durham nor within the Five Ports and Wales Ireland is a part of the Realm of England as appears by those Statutes as well as any of them This is made good by constant practice in all the Parliament Rolls from the first to the last there are Receivers and Tryers of Petitions appointed for Ireland for the Irish to come so far with their Petitions for Justice and the Parliament not to have cognizance when from time to time they had in the beginning of the Parliament appointed Receivers and Tryers of them is a thing not to be presumed An Appeal in Ireland brought by William Lord Vesey against John Fitz-Thomas for Treasonable words there spoken before any Judgment given in Case there was removed into the Parliament in England and there the Defendant acquitted as appears in the Parliament Pleas of the Two and twentieth year of Edw. 1. The Suits for Lands Offices and Goods originally begun here are many and if question grew upon matter in Fact a Jury usually ordered to try it and the Verdict returned into the Parliament as in the Case of one Ballyben in the Parliament of the Five and thirtieth year of Edw. the 1. If a doubt arose upon a matter tryable by Record a Writ went to the Officers in whose custody the Record remained to certifie the Record as was in the Case of Robert Bagott the same Parliament of the Five and thirtieth year of Edw. the 1. where the Writ went to the Treasurer and Barons of the Exchequer Sometimes they gave Judgment here in Parliament and commanded the Judges there in Ireland to do execution as in the great Case of Partition between the Copartners of the Earl-Marshal in the Parliament of the Three and thirtieth of Edward the 1. Where the Writ was awarded to the Treasurer of Ireland My Lords The Laws of Ireland were introduced by the Parliament of England as appears by Three Acts of the Parliament before cited It is of higher Jurisdiction Dare Leges then to judge by them The Parliaments of England do bind in Ireland if Ireland be particularly mentioned as is resolved in the Book-Case of the First year of Henry the Seventh Cook 's Seventh Report Calvin's Case and by the Judges in Trinity-Term in the Three and thirtieth year of Queen Elizabeth The Statute of the Eighth year of Edward the 4th the first Chapter in Ireland recites That it was doubted amongst the Judges whether all the English Statutes though not naming Ireland were in force there if named no doubt From King Henry the 3d his time downwards to the Eighth year of Queen Elizabeth by which Statute it is made Felony to carry Sheep from Ireland beyond Seas in almost all these Kings Reigns there be Statutes made concerning Ireland The exercising of the Legislative Power there over their Lives and Estates is higher than of the Judicial in question until the 29th year of Edward the 3d erroneous Judgments given in Ireland were determinable no where but in England no not in the Parliament of Ireland as it appears in the close Rolls in the Tower in the 29th year of Edward the 3d. Memb. 12. Power to examine and reverse erroneous Judgments in the Parliaments of Ireland is granted from hence Writs of Error lye in the Parliament here upon erroneous Judgments after that time given in the Parliaments of Ireland as appears in the Parliament Rolls of the Eighth year of Henry the 6th N o 70. in the Case of the Prior of Lenthan It is true the Case is not determined there for it 's the last thing that came into the Parliament and could not be determined for want of time but no exception at all is taken to the Jurisdiction The Acts of Parliament made in Ireland have been confirmed in the Parliaments of England as appears by the close Rolls in the Tower in the Two and fortieth year of Edward the 3d. Memb. 20. Dorso where the Parliament in Ireland for the preservation of the Countrey from Irish who had almost destroyed it made an Act That all the Land-Owners that were English should reside upon their Lands or else they were to be forfeited this was here confirmed In the Parliament of the Fourth year of Henry the 5th Chap. 6. Acts of Parliament in Ireland are confirmed and some priviledges of the Peers in the Parliaments there are regulated Power to repeal Irish Statutes Power to confirm them cannot be by the Parliament here if it hath not cognizance of their Parliaments unless it be said that the Parliament may do it knows not what Garnsey and Jersey are under the Kings subjection but are not parcels of the Crown of England but of the Duchy of Normandy they are not governed by the Laws of England as Ireland is and yet Parliaments in England have usually held Plea of and determined all Causes concerning Lands or Goods In the Parliament in the 33 Edward 1. there be Placita de Insula Jersey And so in the Parliament 14 Edw. 2. and so for Normandy and Gascoigne and always as long as any part of
committit from the Lex talionis he that would not have had others to have a Law Why should he have any himself Why should not that be done to him that himself would have done to others It 's true we give Law to Hares and Deers because they be Beasts of Chase It was never accounted either cruelty or foul play to knock Foxes and Wolves on the head as they can be found because these be Beasts of Prey The Warrener sets Traps for Polcats and other Vermine for preservation of the Warren Further my Lords most dangerous Diseases if not taken in time they kill Errors in great things as War and Marriage they allow no time for repentance it would have been too late to make a Law when there had been no Law My Lords for further Answer to this Objection he hath offended against a Law a Law within the endeavouring to subvert the Laws and Polity of the State wherein he lived which had so long and with such faithfulness protected his Ancestry Himself and his whole Family It was not Malum quia prohibitum it was Malum in se against the Dictates of the dullest Conscience against the Light of Nature they not having a Law were a Law to themselves Besides this he knew a Law without that the Parliament in Cases of this Nature had Potestatem vitae necis Nay he well knew that he offended the Promulged and Ordinary Rules of Law Crimes against Law have been Proved have been Confessed so that the Question is not De culpa sed de poena What degree of Punishment those Faults deserve We must differ from him in Opinion That twenty Felonies cannot make a Treason if it be meant of equality in the use of the Legislative Power for he that deserves death for one of these Felonies alone deserves a Death more painful and more Ignominious for all together Every Felony is punished with loss of Life Lands and Goods a Felony may be aggravated with those Circumstances as that the Parliament with good reason may add to the Circumstances of Punishment as was done in the Case of John Hall in the Parliament of the 1 H. 4. who for a Barbarous Murder committed upon the Duke of Glocester stifling him between two Feather-Beds at Calice was adjudged to be Hanged Drawn and Quartered Batteries by Law are only punishable by Fine and single Damages to the Party Wounded In the Parliament held in 1 H. 4. Cap. 6. one Savage committed a Battery upon one Chedder Servant to Sir John Brooke a Knight of the Parliament for Somersetshire It 's there Enacted that he shall pay double Damages and stand Convicted if he render not himself by such a time The manner of proceedings quickned and the penalty doubled the Circumstances were considered it concerned the Common-Wealth it was a Battery with Breach of Priviledge of Parliament This is made a perpetual Act no warning to the first Offender and in the Kings-Bench as appears by the Book-Case of 9 H. 4. the first leaf Double Damages were recovered My Lords in this of the Bill the Offence is High and General against the King and the Common-wealth against all and the best of all If every Felony be loss of Life Lands and Goods What is Misuser of the Legislative Power by Addition of Ignominy in the Death and Disposal of the Lands to the Crown the Publick Patrimony of the Kingdom But it was hoped that your Lordships had no more skill in the Art of killing Men then your worthy Ancestors My Lords this Appeal from your selves to your Ancestors we do admit of although we do not admit of that from your Lordships to the Peers of Ireland He hath Appealed to them your Lordships will be pleased to hear what Judgment they have already given in the case that is the several Attainders of Treason in Parliament after the Statute of 25 E. 3. for Treasons not mentioned nor within that Statute and those upon the first Offenders without warning given By the Statute of 25 E. 3. it 's Treason to levy War against the King Gomines and Weston afterwards in Parliament in the 1 R. 2. n. 38 39. adjudged Traytors for surrendring two several Castles in France only out of fear without any Compliance with the Enemy this not within the Statute of 25th E. 3. My Lords In the 3d year of Rich. 2d John Imperiall that came into England upon Letters of Safe Conduct as an Agent for the State of Genoa sitting in the evening before his door in Breadstreet as the words of the Records are Paulo ante ignitegium John Kirkby and another Citizen coming that way Casually Kirkby troad upon his Toe it being twilight this grew to a Quarrel and the Ambassador was slain Kirkby was Indicted of High-Treason the Indictment finds all this and that it was only done se defendendo and without malice The Judges it being out of the Statute 25 E. 3. could not proceed the Parliament declared it Treason and Judgment afterwards of High-Treason there 's nothing can bring this within the Statute of 25 E. 3. but it concerns the Honour of the Nation that the publick Faith should be strictly kept It might endanger the Traffique of the Kingdom they made not a Law first they made the first man an Example this is in the Parliament Roll 3 R. 2. Number 18. and Hillary-Term 3 R. 2. Rot. 31. in the Kings-Bench where Judgment is given against him In 11 R. 2. Tresilian and some others attainted of Treason for delivering Opinions in the Subversion of the Law and some others for plotting the like My Lords the Case hath upon another occasion been opened to your Lordships only this is observable that in the Parliament of the first year of Henry the Third where all Treasons are again reduced to the Statute of 25 E. 3. These Attainders were by a particular Act confirmed and made good that the memory thereof might be transmitted to succeeding Ages they stand good unto this day the offences there as here were the endeavouring the Subversion of the Laws My Lords after the 1 H. 4. Sir John Mortimer being committed to the Tower upon suspition of Treason brake Prison and made his escape This is no way within any Statute or any former Judgment at Common-Law for this that is for breaking the Prison only and no other cause in the Parliament held the second year of Henry the Sixth he was attainted of High-Treason by Bill My Lords Poysoning is only Murder yet one Richard Cooke having put Poyson into a Pot of Pottage in the Kitching of the Bishop of Rochester whereof two persons dyed he 's Attainted of Treason and it was Enacted that he should be Boyled to death by the Statute of 22 H. 8. c. 9. By the Statute of the 25. H. 8. Elizabeth Barton the Holy Maid of Kent for pretending Revelations from God That God was highly displeased with the King for being divorced from the Lady Catherine and that in
Matth. Paris that the Bishop of Winchester was his Brother a very Potent Man in the State And it is worthy our Noting that the Bishops did endeavour to salve their Disloyalty and Perjury by bringing in the Salick Law to this Kingdom Trayterously avowing that it was baseness for so many and so great Peers to be subject to a woman Nay it seemeth the Bishops did not intend to be true Subjects to him though a brave and worthy Prince H. Huntington had his Title to the Crown been as good as the Prelates at his Election did declare for read we not that the Bishops of Salisbury Lincoln Ely and others did fortifie Castles against him and advanced to him in Armed and Warlike manner Wendover Nay did not his Brother the Bishop of Winchester forsake him and in a Synod of Clergy accursed all those that withstood the Empress Maud Paris Malmsbury blessing all that assisted her Surely this Curse ought to have fallen on himself and the Archbishop who did trouble the Realm with Fire and Sword Sure as these were too great to be put out of Parliament so were they very dangerous therein Unto Stephen succeeded Henry the Second In this time Thomas Becket was Archbishop of Canterbury what his demeanor towards his Soveraign was and what Mischief was by him occasioned to the Kingdom would take too much time to declare though some Papists that adore him for a Saint will say he resisted on just Cause Caesarius dial lib. 8. c. 69. yet I will deliver what I read and render him with the Chronicles an Arch-Traytor and tell you that the Doctors in Paris did Debate whether he were damned for his disloyalty Rogerus the Norman avowing Bale Brit. Cent. 2. that he deserved death and damnation for his Contumacy toward the King the Minister of God From him I pass to his Son Richard the First R. 1. who had two Brothers that were Bishops the one of Duresme the other of Lincoln and after Archbishop of York and going to the Holy Land appointed for Governour of the Kingdom William Longchamp Chief Justiciar and Lord Chancellor of England and Papal Legate Fox p. 289. This Vice-Roy Paris Hovedon alii Guil. Nubu lib. 4. c. 14. Hovedon Nub. l. 4. c. 17. Hovedon p. 399. or rather King for so Paris calls him Rex Sacerdos had joyned with him Hugh Bishop of Duresm for the Parts beyond Humber This Kingly Bishop as Authors deliver did use incredible Insolence and intolerable Tyranny and commit a most Sacrilegious and Barbarous Out-rage upon the Person of Jeffery Archbishop of York and natural Brother to King Richard the First for which afterwards being taken in a Curtesans Apparel and Attire velut delicata muliercula he was banished the Realm Now as it was very difficult to turn such Papal Bishops and Regulo's out of Parliament so certainly such Lord Bishops did work there no little Mischief to Regal Power the Subjects Liberties and the Weal publique Certainly this was not the Duty and Office of a Bishop Matth. Paris Hollin in R. 1. surely the Silk and Scarlet Robes of Princes and Justiciars were as undecent for these Bishops as was the Coat of Iron of the Bishop of Beavois taken Prisoner by this King which he sent to the Pope with a Vide an tunica filii tui sit an non to which he made Answer That he was not his Son nor the Son of the Church For he had put off the peaceable Prelate and put on the Warlike Souldier took a Shield instead of a Cope a Sword for a Stole a Curace for an Albe a Helmet for a Mitre a Lance for a Bishops Staff perverting the Order and Course of things Thus we see that a Bishop must destroy Mens Lives either as a Justiciar in Court or as a Souldier in Camp Qui si non aliquem nocuisset mortuus est they would do any thing but what they ought to do Feed the Flock they desire rather to Sit in Parliament then stand in a Pulpit accounting Preaching according to Bishop Juell so far below their greatness as indeed it is above their goodness We neither deny or reject Episcopacy or Church Government it self but the Corruptions thereof and we say that the Bishops who stiffly maintained those Corruptions have inforced this our distaste When Jacob was forced to depart from Laban for ill usage I conceive that the breach was in Laban not in Jacob. So also those that did forsake Babylon God commanding to depart from it lest they should be partakers of their punishment as they were guilty of their Crimes did not occasion the schism or breach but the sins of Babylon And we confess that true it is that we refuse and forsake the present Church Government but no further then it hath forsaken Pure and Primitive Institution therefore let none say that we are desirous of Innovation for I think we may boldly with the forenamed Reverend Bishop Juell affirm Nos non sumus novatores From King Richard the First I come to King John King John an Usurper likewise who was advanced to the Regal Throne by Archbishop Hubert and the Prelates * Observe this That even in this Mans opinion England is no Elective Monarchy Matth. Paris Hist Major This lewd Bishop unjustly declaring this and all other Kingdomes to be Elective and that no man hath Right or fore Title to succeed another in a Kingdom but must be by the Body of the Kingdom thereunto Chosen with Invocation of Grace and Guidance of Gods Holy Spirit alledging further and that most plainly by example of David and Saul That whosoever in a Kingdom Excelled all in Valour and Virtue ought to surmount all in Rule and Authority and therefore they had all unanimously Elected John first imploring the Holy Ghosts Assistance as well in regard of his merits as Royal Blood And thus the Bishops blanch their disloyal assertion with Sacred Writ and their Lewd devised Plot with the Holy Ghosts Assistance Hereby they rejected the just Title and Hereditary Succession of Arthur his Elder Brother's Son And as he did this disherison unjustly and disloyally so did he this Election lewdly and fraudulently as himself after confessed when being demanded the Reason of his so doing he replyed That as John by Election got the Crown so by Ejection upon demerit he might lose the same which after he did endeavour to his utmost and at last effected by depriving him of Life and Kingdome Let me not be misconceived Matth. Paris R. Hovedon Girald Cam. who called him Principio fraenum I know Hubert died 8 or 10 years before him but what he did begin and forward was furthered and pursued by Stephen Langton and other Bishops and Prelates too long to rehearse His other Brother being Archbishop of York a strange Example saith Malmsbury to have a King ruled by two Brethren of so turbulent humours Many of their Treasonable Acts and
the Wars with France Hall in 8 R. 2. by declaring the King 's Right thereunto to the effusion of much Christian Blood and to the loss of all we had there To expiate which he built a Colledg in Oxenford to pray for the Souls Slain in France Though what he did then deliver was true of the King 's Right much Christian Blood and to the loss of all we had there To expiate which he built a Colledg in Oxenford to pray for the Souls Slain in France Though what he did then deliver was true of the King 's Right of France as was also the other of John Arch-Bishop of the same See in Edw. the Third's time and no less true was that of Carlisle against H. 4th's Title Yet I may say it was not the Office or Function of a Bishop to incense Wars Domestique or Foreign Nay this Bishop did set this War on foot to divert the King from Reformation of the Clergy For in that Parliament held at Leicester there was a Petition declaring that the Temporal Lands which were bestowed on the Church were superfluously and disorderly spent upon Hounds and Hawks Horses and Whores which better imployed would suffice for the maintenance of 15 Earls 1500 Knights 6200 Esquires and hundred Alms-houses and besides of Yearly Rent to the Crown 20000 pounds From him I come to his Son Henry the Sixth H. 6 I read many Accusations that Glocester the good Protector did lay to the Charge of Beaufort the Cardinal of Winchester and Lord Chancellor Fox Mart. in H. 6. Great Uncle to the King Living Son to John of Ghent alledging him a Person very dangerous both to the King and State his Brother of York a Cardinal also together with other Bishops no better For we read of Arch-Bishop Bourchier and other Bishops that they did shamefully countenance the distraction of the time These as I delivered before though bad in Parliaments yet too great to put out I will not now speak of many other Particulars that I might either in this King's Reign or his Successors to King Henry the Eighth for that I desire to declare what they did since the Reformation yet therein will be as brief as I may having already too much provoked your Patience for which I crave humble Pardon To Henry the Sixth succeeded Edward the Fourth E. 4 who indeed had the better Title to the Crown notwithstanding Arch-Bishop Nevil Brother to the King Maho Warwick with others did Conspire and attempt his Dethroning and after took him Prisoner and kept him in his Castle of Midleham and after in Parliament at Westminster did they not declare him a Traytor and Usurper confiscate his Goods revoke abrogate and make frustrate all Statutes made by him and intayl the Crown of England and France upon Henry and his Issue-Male in default thereof to Clarence and so disabling King Edward his Elder Brother But to hasten I will pass over Edw. the Fifth E. 3 whose Crown by means of the Prelates as well as the Duke of Buckingham was placed on the head of his Murtherous Uncle that Cruel Tyrant for had not the Cardinal Arch-Bishop by his perswasion with his Mother taken the Brother Richard Duke of York out of Sanctuary the Crown had not been placed on his Uncle's Head nor they lost their Lives and not to speak of Doctor Pinker and Doctor Shaw's Sermons and other foul passages of Prelates as Morton and others who sought also the destruction of King Richard and that when his Nephews were dead R. 3 and none had Right before him to the Crown which he then wore what disloyal long Speeches made he to the Duke of Buckingham to perswade the said Duke to take the Crown to himself From Richard I pass to Henry the Seventh I told you before H. 7 that Morton would have perswaded Buckingham to dethrone King Richard the Third and take the Kingdom to himself to which he had no Right and failing therein he addressed himself to Henry then Earl of Richmond and as by his Counsel he prevailed with him so he prevailed against and won from Richard the Garland This perswader and furtherer of bad Titles was advanced to the See of Canterbury his desire whereof perhaps caused his disloyalty and being in high favour with this Prince by his special Recommendations procured one Hadrian de Castello an Italian to be made first Bishop of Hereford after of Bath and Wells who also was made Cardinal by that Antichristian Goodw. Catal. of Bishops in Bath c. pag. 309. Paulus Jovius and devilish Pope Albert the Sixth and as Moreton had endeavoured the dethroning of his Lord and King so did the other Conspire the Murther of Pope Leo the Tenth when he was told by a Witch That one named Hadrian should succeed him As to Henry the Eighth I need not speak much of his Opinion of Bishops who he saith were but half Subjects if Subjects at all to him when he caused Sir Thomas Audeley Speaker to Read the Oath of Bishops in Parliament Spede And that it was so appeared when Wolsey and Campeius refused to give Judgment for the Unlawfulness of the Marriage of H. 8. and thereupon a Divorce whereupon the Duke of Suffolk said and that truly It was never merry in England since Cardinal Bishops came amongst us It were too large to repeat all the Petitions and Supplications and Complaints of Divines against them in this King's Reign as of Doctor Barnes Latimer Tindall Beane Barns Supplic alii and others This last named saith That the Bishops alone have the Keys of the English Kingdom hanging at their Girdles and what they traiterously Conspire among themselves the same is bound and loosed in Star-Chamber Westminster-Hall Privy Council and Parliament This and much more he But as their sitting there hath been obnoxious so it is useless as may appear by the Statute of 31 H. H. 8.31 8. yet in force where it is Enacted That as the then Lord Cromwell so all other that should thereafter be made Vice-Gerents should sit above the Arch-Bishop in Parliament Nay hold general Visitations in all the Diocesses of the Realm as well over the Arch-Bishops Bishops Arch-Deacons as Laiety to enquire and Correct their Abuses to prescribe Injunctions Rules and Orders for Reforming of Religion for abolishing Superstition and Idolatry and Correction of their Lives and Manners c. And read we not that in the 37 of the King's Reign Letters Patents were granted to Lay-men to exercise all manner of Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction H. 8.37 as the King's Officers not the Bishops Thus we see the Government of Bishops as well as their Sitting in Parliament may be spared And that neither have nor heretofore had any Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction in making of Canons or Constitutions Henry 8.25 but by the King 's Writ nor Promulge or Execute any such without the King 's Royal Assent and Licence under Pain appears by the Statute of
and not the whole Body of the Kingdom was as follows Honoratissimis viris Equitibus Civibus Burgensibus Supremae Curiae Parliamentariae Senatoribus Consultissimis summa cum Demissione The Petition of the University of Cambridge May 12. 1641. Senatores Honoratissimi NOn veremur ne volventibus tanta negotia molesti simus Academia Cantabrigiensis cum nihil sit aut ad Religionem certius aut ad splendorem nominis excelsius quam suscipere Litterarum clientelam in quo Studio cum singularis Animi vestri propensio semper eluxerit tum nulla in re magis possit eminere quam si Ecclesiae honestamenta ea quae sub optimis Regibus tam diu obtinuerunt indelibata tueamini Non enim agitur unius Academiae non unius Aetatis causa nam nec industria poterit non relanguescere nec bona indoles ali neque augeri nec vota parentum non in irritum cadere nisi spe non vana suffulciantur Quam praematurum bonis artibus occasum imminere si stipendium idem Militi sit quod Imperatori Sunt qui expediendis Scholasticorum ambagibus evolvendis antiquorum Patrum Monumentis expurgandae faeci Romanae velut Augaei stabulo se totos impenderunt nec aliam mercedem prensant quà m in Ecclesia Cathedrali tandem aliquando quasi in portu conquiescere ita fit ut quod ignavis Asylum inscitiae est id candidioribus ingeniis pro stimulo sit ad optima persequenda nec aequitas judiciorum vestrorum ferret improbitatem nonullorum in publicam Calamitatem redundare Impetigo Romana quam amplam tum sibi nacta videbitur se diffundendi materiam cum non sit nisi imbelles adversarios habitura neque enim certamini vacare possunt qui id unicè agunt ut in rostris concionibus sudent etiamnum persentiscere nobis videmur nudam atque inanem Academiam antiquam paupertatem quasi praeludio perhorrescimus Nec vestra progenies non aliquando ventura est in tantarum miseriarum partes Quin itaque Senatores amplissimi per spes parentum per illecebras industriae per subsidia simul ornamenta pietatis per vincula nervos firmamenta litterarum velitis splendorem Ecclesiae qui longissimis ab usque temporibus deductus est authoritate vestrâ communire Sed quia linqua nativa dolores desideria sua faelicius exprimit annexam Litteris Petitionem benevolis auribus excipietis Datae è Frequenti Conventu nostro Cantabr tertio Idus Aprilis 1641. Honori vestro Deditissimi Procancellarius reliquusque coetus Academiae Cantabrigiensis To the Honourable the Knights Citizens and Burgesses of the House of Commons Assembled in Parliament The Humble Petition of the University of Cambridge Sheweth THat your Petitioners having heard of divers suggestions offered to this Honourable Court by way of Remonstrance tending to the subversion of Cathedral Churches and alienation of those Lands by which they are supported being the Ancient Inheritance of the Church founded and bestowed by the Religious bounty of many Famous and Renowned Kings and Princes of this Land other Benefactors both of the Clergy and Laity and Established and Confirmed unto them by the Laws of this Kingdom and so accordingly have been employed to the advancement of Learning the encouragement of Students and preferment of Learned Men besides many other Pious and Charitable uses May it please this Honourable Court out of their great Wisdom and tender Care for the cherishing of Learning and furtherance of the Studies and Pains of those who have and do devote themselves to the service of the Church graciously to protect and secure those Religious Foundations from Ruine and Alienation and withal to take order that they may be reduced to the due observation of their Statutes and that all Innovations and Abuses which have by some Mens miscarriages crept in may be Reformed that so the Students of our Vniversity which by the present fears both are and will be much sadded and dejected may be the better invited to pursue their Studies with alacrity and the places themselves disposed to the most serviceable and deserving Men according to their first Institution And your Petitioners as in Duty bound shall ever pray c This day The Defence of Deans and Chapters heard in the House of Commons for fashion sake those Gentlemen who desired to speak something in defence of the Deans and Chapters were heard before the House of Commons and after Dr. Burgess had inveighed against the singing of the Service alledging That Devotion vanished into Quavers and that St. Paul's Hymns were Legentibus non Cantantibus and had run a long Harangue upon the necessary use of Prayer and the power of Preaching Dr. Hacket made a learned Speech in defence of those Religious Foundations shewing how much they tended to the Glory of God the Advancement of True Religion Promoting of Piety Encouragement of Learning and the good of the Common-wealth The fum of his Defence so far as I can collect from those broken fragments which are Entred in the Journal of the House of Commons was as follows He shewed That in the beginning of the Reformation of this Church from Popery it was Queen Elizabeths great care to place the most Learned and Able Men in the Cathedral Churches and that from thence the great light of the Reformed Religion spread it self over this Nation by the constant preaching that was maintain'd there every Lord's Day besides a weekly Lecture That here were the Nurseries and Seminaries of Learning there being a Grammar-School to every Cathedral that the great Encouragement to Learning was the future expectancy of Rewards without which very few persons would be induced to fit themselves for Sacred Functions that the Labour and Industry must be great and long and the Charges extraordinary to qualifie any Person for the Service of God and the Church and that therefore these Encouragements are not more then enough to invite Men to these chargeable and laborious Studies Then he proceeded to shew the Primitive design of these Structures and Foundations which was That the Colledge of Presbyters might be as a Synod and Council to the Bishop to assist him in the Exercise of his Jurisdiction that they were greatly for the Honour of our Religion being the first Monuments of Christianity in our Nation dedicated to the Service of God and set apart for the continual Exercise of Christianity continual Prayers and Praises being there offered up to God Almighty for all sorts and conditions of Men. Then he proceeded to shew the advantage of those Foundations which the Church enjoyed by the Religious bounty of our devout Ancestors whose Wills ought to be had in Veneration As first to the Churches Tennants who had very advantageous Leases many times not much different from Inheritance paying only one part of Seven rather as an acknowledgment than a Rent Secondly To the Cities wherein they were by the great Resort
of the three Bills for Abbreviation of Michaelmas Term for pressing Marriners and for the Remainder of the six Subsidies May 13. 1641. THE great security of the Kingdom rests in the happy concurrence of the King and People in the Vnity of their hearts These joyned Safety and Plenty attends the Scepter but divided Distraction and Confusion as Bryers and Thorns overspread and make the Land barren No Peace to the King No Prosperity to the People The Duties and Affections of Your Subjects are most Transparent most Clear in the chearful and most liberal Contributions given to knit fast this Vnion with the bond of Peace The Treasures of the privy Purse are but the supplies of Princes warranted by a common Interest But the publick Tribute given by common Assent supports Royal Dignity is sheltered under the Wings of Prerogative and by that Power covered from the Eyes from the Touch of Deceivers In these we render Caesar what is due to Caesar and Tribute to whom Tribute belongeth The proper Inscription of the Crown is born here and Censures those Malignant Spirits that dare whisper into the Ears of Sacred Majesty that our selves only not Your Sacred Person not Your Royal Posterity are the Supreme Objects of the Givers The preservation of the publick Vnion the supply of Your Armies the distresses miserable distresses of the Northern parts the common Calamities of the times begat the consideration of this Bill the Remainder of the six entire Subsidies happily presented to Your Sacred Majesty by this unworthy hand the first Vote advanced a credit to us to issue them for the use of Your Sacred Majesty The full perfection adds growth to that Credit and enables us to return to Your Sacred Majesty as to the Ocean the Tribute due to Justice and Soveraignty These are the vast earnests of our desires which take their rise from the due regard from the safety of Your Throne of Your Posterity Your Royal Assent stamps Your Image here and makes this Yours and Yours only which I by the Commands of the Commons humbly beseech of Your Sacred Majesty to give After which the Clerk of the Crown reading the Titles severally the Clerk of the Parliament pronounced the King's Assent This being done his Majesty delivered a Paper to the House concerning the Draining of the Fens recommending it to their consideration as a business much concerning the good of the Kingdom The Act for restraining Bishops and others in Holy Orders from intermedling with Secular Affairs read a second time This day one Mr. John Smith a Minister in Custody of the Serjeant Attending the House was brought to the Bar and Committed to the Gate-house for words spoken against the Parliament For though all sorts of people spake freely enough against the Actions of the Judges Mr. Smith a Minister committed to the Gatehouse Ministers of State Privy-Councellors nay and of the King himself without the least controll or danger of either punishment or animadversion yet to speak against any thing done or said by the Commons was now become the most dangerous offence and which through the diligence of the well affected Party for so the Dissenters from the Church called themselves who were most notable Informers was certainly complained of to the Commons and by them most severely punished if not by Prisons yet by the great Charges of being kept long in the Custody of the Serjeant at Armes The Explanation of the Protestation formerly mentioned Friday May 14. was this day Ordered to be Printed and Published that so the Presbyterian Party might receive encouragement and assurance of their intention to pull down the Government of the Church by way of a Glorious and thorow Reformation This day Doctor Cozens and some others that are Delinquents in the Impeachment brought up from the House of Commons Dr. Cozens and others at the Bar of the Lords House were called in who kneeled at the Bar and then stood and heard the Impeachment read after it was read Doctor Cozens made his humble request in behalf of himself and the rest that this Cause may be heard publickly before the whole House This day Two Clergy-men who had been informed against in the House of Lords were Released by the following Orders WHereas Andrew Sandeland Clerk Sandeland and Waferer two Clergy Men Released hath been long in Custody for words alledged to have been spoken by him for which this House had just cause to have inflicted punishment upon him if they had been proved but after a long time no Prosecution appearing against him it is Ordered That the said Andrew Sandeland be forthwith discharged and set at liberty of and from his present Restraint or Imprisonment and that any Bond or other Security entered into by the said Andrew Sandeland for his attendance upon this House shall be forthwith Cancelled and delivered up to him Ordered That Michael Waferer Clerk having been long in Custody be forthwith discharged of his Restraint and that his Bonds and other Security given for his Attendance upon this House be delivered up to him to be Cancelled and his Cause dismissed this House because no Prosecutors have this long time appeared The Faction found better Encouragement from the Commons House to prosecute honest men by their false Informations at the Committee for Scandalous Ministers And indeed the Lords House was not at all for their purpose yet while the Bishops and so many of the Loyal Nobility sate there whose Honour and Justice would soon have discovered the Malice of these Accusations This day the Lord St. John's of Bletsoe was Introducted in his Robes Lord St. John of Bletsoe Introduced into the House of Lords between the Lord Hunsden and the Lord Grey of Wark he delivered his Writ upon his knee to the Speaker which being delivered to the Clerk it was read then the Lord Chamberlain and the Lord Moubray in the place of the Earl Marshal his Father and the King at Arms going before him brought him and placed him next below the Lord Hunsden After which he and the Lord Chief Baron took the Protestation The Commons having received an Information against Mr. Saturday May 15. Mr. Davenant and Mr. Walley sent for by the Serjeant as Delinquents Informations against Mr. Percy William Davenant the Poet and Mr. Elias Walley concerning the Business of the Army they were by Order of the House sent for as Delinquents by the Serjeant Also several Informations against Mr. Percy the Earl of Northumberland's Brother which were taken at Chichester were read upon which John Lamb and Robert Merryweather were sent for from Chichester to be Examined upon it and a Conference with the Lords was desired upon it The Earl of Bath reports the Conference Conference about Percy Merryweather and Lamb. That the House of Commons have received certain Information that on Wednesday Night last past was Sevennight Mr. Percy came to Petworth and sent for one Robert Merryweather and borrowed of him
look to the repair and for the decoration thereof as is also elsewhere enjoyned 2. To preserve Discipline and Holy Rites 3. To be adjuments or assistants to the Bishops in Cathedrals as be the Archdeacons abroad Part of which Assistance is as seemeth to preach for them but the Bishops will excuse them that service as too painful nay forbid it as too dangerous but though they will not busie themselves in preaching yet have they leisure to be inventive and operative in poor beggerly toys and trifles which neither bring Honour to God nor good to the Church and People their Preaching and godly Life did anciently winn the Peoples Hearts to love God and them as his Ministers whom they received as Angels of God Ambassadors from Heaven Humility Piety and Industry laid the Foundation of all those magnificent Structures Dignities Titles Places Revenues and Priviledges wherewith the Church-men were anciently endowed what hath or is likely to demolish them is easie to conjecture King James hath delivered it in these Words The natural sickness that hath ever troubled and been the decay of all Churches since the beginning of the World hath been Pride Ambition and Avarice and these Infirmities wrought the overthrow of the Popish Church in this Country and divers others but the reformation of Religion in Scotland was extraordinarily wrought by God though many things were inordinately done by such as blindly were doing the Work of God Thus far that wise and religious Prince But lest I should forget a principal part of the Office Church Musick it shall have here the first Place the rather for that as I read the first coming in thereof was to usher Antichrist for I do find in my reading that Anno Dom. 666. the Year that was designed or computed for the coming of Antichrist Vitalian Bishop of Rome brought into the Church singing of Service and the use of Organs c. As we read in Plat. Baleus and others in the life of Vitalian who therefore was called the Musical Pope although at that time there was greater occasion of Sorrow the Longobards having entred and wasted Italy and therefore fasting and praying had been more proper then Musick and melodious singing Hereupon saith mine Author ignorance arose among the People lulled as it were asleep by the confused noise of many Voices This carried colour of advancing Devotion although it was no better as the case then stood then the Altar erected to the unknown God Acts 17. Hereby the Key of Knowledg was hid Luke 11. When the common People understood not what was sung and the heat of Zeal was quenched in Men of understanding whose Ears were tickled but Hearts not touched whilest as Saint Augustine complaineth of himself so most were more moved by the sweetness of the Song then by the sense of the Matter which was sung unto them working their bane like the deadly touch of the Aspis in a tickling delight or as the soft touch of the Hiena which doth infatuate and lull asleep and then devoureth if Service in the Latine or unknown Tongue whereof the simplest People understood somewhat was justly censured certainly this manner of singing Psalms and Service whereof the most learned can understand nothing is to be condemned I dislike not singing though by Musick of Organs and other Instruments but I wish that what is sung may be understood and as Justinian the Emperor commanded all Bishops and Priests to celebrate Prayer with a loud and clear voice non tacito modo that the Minds of the Hearers might be stirred up with more Devotion to express the Praises of God so wish I that Service and Psalms may be so Read and Sung that they may be understood and so edify the Mind as well as please the Ear. Now I am to declare that this Office doth neither tend to the Honour of God the propagation of Piety the advancement of Learning or benefit of the Common-weal but to the contrary as I have delivered rather to the dishonor c. But the Day being so far spent I will not assume too much boldness to press upon your Patience for further hearing thereof but will crave leave for further rendring thereof at fitter opportunity and for better conveniency In the Lords House the Lord Bishop of Winton reported the Conference delivered from the House of Commons touching the Canons made at the late Synod Then the Votes of the Commons being read The Lords Votes about the Canons the same with the Commons the Lords Voted the same verbatim viz. Resolved upon the Question That the Clergy of England convented in any Convocation or Synod or otherwise have no Power to make any Constitutions Canons or Acts whatsoever in matter of Doctrine and Discipline or otherwise to bind the Clergy or the Layety of this Land without Common consent of Parliament Resolved c. nullo contradicente That the several Constitutions and Canons Ecclesiastical treated upon by the Archbishop of Canterbury and York Presidents of the Convocations for the respective Provinces of Canterbury and York and the rest of the Bishops and Clergy of those Provinces and agreed upon with the Kings Majesties Licence in their several Synods begun at London and York 1640 do not bind the Clergy or Laity of this Land or either of them Resolved c. That these Canons and Constitutions Ecclesiastical treated upon by the Archbishops of Canterbury and York Presidents of the Convocations for the respective Provinces of Canterbury and York and the rest of the Bishops and Clergy of those Provinces and agreed upon by the Kings Majesties Licence in their several Synods begun at London and York in the Year 1640 do contain in them many matters contrary to the King's Prerogative to the Fundamental Laws and Liberties of the Realm to the Right of the Parliaments to the Property and Liberty of the Subjects and Matters tending to Sedition and of a dangerous Consequence Resolved c. That the several Grants of the Benevolence or Contribution granted to his Majesty by the Clergy of the Provinces of Canterbury and York Anno Domini 1640 are contrary to the Law and ought not to bind the Clergy This Day also a Bill against Ship-Money was read the first time Mr. Mr. Tailor discharged from the Tower Saturday June 12. Order about Disbanding the Army Tailor late Burgess of Windsor was also this day discharged from the Tower The Commons fell upon the Consideration of Disbanding the Army and it was Ordered That the Souldiers should be allowed Eight pence for every Fifteen Miles to be conducted 300 in a Company homewards and not more their Arms to be all taken from them and laid up at York Hull and other Convenient Places the Scots and English to be Disbanded at the same time A Petition was read Sir will withrington and Mr. Herbert Price Petition the House wherein Sir William Withrington and Sir Herbert Price made their humble Submission to the House and desired to be
be the greater because it redounds unto the God of glory My Motion is that those Sheets last presented to you may be laid by and that we may proceed to reduce again the old Original Episcopacy If this Gentleman had thoroughly consulted the Church History he would have found both that Episcopacy was ever accounted a Distinct Order from and above Presbytery and that the most Primitive Bishops exercised the same Jurisdiction and Power in the Church even over Presbyters themselves as the present English Bishops did and for their Temporal Baronies and Lordships it was never esteemed any ways Essential to the Office but only a Concomitant Adjunct which by the Fundamental Constitution of the Government by the Kings annexing Temporal Baronies to their Spiritual Office rendred them one of the three Estates of the Realm And indeed it was this Temporal Honor and their Secular Estates Lands and Tenements which raised the envy of some and the Covetousness of others against not only the Persons but the Order it self Sir Benjamin Rudyard also spake as follows Mr. Hide WE are now upon a very great Business Sir Benjamin Rudyard's Speech concerning Bishops Deans and Chapters at a Committee of the whole House June 21. 1641. so great indeed as it requires our soundest our saddest consideration our best judgment for the present our utmost foresight for the future But Sir one thing doth exceedingly trouble me it turns me round about it makes my whole Reason vertiginous which is that so many do believe against the wisdom of all Ages that now there can be no Reformation without destruction as if every sick Body must be presently knockt in the Head as past hope of Cure Religion was first and best planted in Cities God did spread his Net where most might be caught Cities had Bishops and Presbyters were the Seminaries out of which were sent Labourers by the Bishops to propagate and cultivate the Gospel The Clergy then lived wholly upon the Freewill-Offering and Bounty of the People Afterwards when Kings and States grew to be Christians the outward settlement of the Church grew up with them They Erected Bishopricks Founded Cathedral Churches Endowed them with large Possessions Landlords built Parish Churches gleab'd them with some portion of Land for which they have still a Right of Presentation I do confess That some of our Bishops have had Ambitious Dangerous Aims and have so still that in their Government there are very great Enormities But I am not of their Opinion who believe that there is an Innate ill Quality in Episcopacy like a Specifical Property which is a Refuge not a Reason I hope there is not Original Sin in Episcopacy and though there were yet may the Calling be as well Reformed as the Person Regenerated Bishops have governed the Church for 1500 years without interruption And no man will say but that God hath saved Souls in all those times under their Government Let them be reduc'd according to the usage of Ancient Churches in the best times so restâ—â—â—â—d as they may not be able hereafter to shame the Calling I love not those that hate to be Reformed and do therefore think them worthy of the more strict the more close Reformation We have often complained That Bishops are too absolute too singular Although Cathedral Churches are now for the most part but Receptacles of Drones and Non-Residents yet some good Men may be found or placed there to be Assessors with the Bishops to assist them in Actions of moment in Causes of Importance there is maintenance already provided for them If either in Bishopricks or Cathedral Churches there be too much some may be pared off to relieve them that have too little If yet more may be spared it may be employed to the setting up of a Preaching Ministry through the whole Kingdom And untill this be done although we are Christians yet are we not a Christian State There are some places in England that are not in Christendom the people are so ignorant they live so without God in the World for which Parliaments are to answer both to God and Man Let us look to it for it lies like one of the Burdens of the Prophet Isaiah heavy and flat upon Parliaments I have often seriously considered with my self what strong concurrent Motives and Causes did meet together in that time when Abbies and Monasteries were overthrown Certainly God's hand was the greatest for he was most offended The profane Superstitions the abominable Idolatries the filthy nefandous wickedness of their Lives did stink in God's Noistrils did call down for Vengeance for Reformation A good Party of Religions Men were Zealous Instruments in that great work as likewise many Covetous Ambitious Persons gaping for fat Morsels did lustily drive it on But Mr. Hide there was a principal Parliamentary motive which did facilitate the rest for it was propounded in Parliament that the Accession of Abby-Lands would so inrich the Crown as the people should never be put to pay Subsidies again This was plausible both to Court and Countrey Besides with the Over-plus there should be maintained a standing Army of Forty Thousand Men for a perpetual defence of the Kingdom This was Safety at home Terrour and Honour abroad The Parliament would make all sure Gods part Religion by his blessing hath been reasonably well preserved but it hath been saved as by fire for the rest is consumed and vanished the people have payed Subsidies ever since and we are now in no very good Case to pay an Army Let us beware Mr. Hide that we do not look with a worldly carnal evil Eye upon Church Lands let us clear our Sight search our Hearts that we may have unmixt and sincere Ends without the least thought of saving of our own Purses Church Lands will still be fittest to maintain Church Men by a proportionable and orderly distribution We are very strict and curious to uphold our own Propriety and there is great reason for it Are the Clergy only a sort of Men who have no Propriety at all in that which is called theirs I am sure they are Englishmen they are Subjects If we pull down Bishopricks and pull down Cathedral Churches in a short time we must be forced 〈◊〉 pull Colledges too for Scholars will live and dye there as in Cells if there be not considerable Preferment to invite them abroad And the example we are making now will be an easie Temptation to the less pressing necessities of future times This is the next way to bring in Barbarism to make the Clergy an unlearned contemptible Vocation not to be desired but by the basest of the People and then where shall we find men able to convince an Adversary A Clergy-men ought to have a far greater proportion to live upon than any other Man of an equal Condition He is not bred to multiply Three-pences it becomes him not to live Mechanically and sordidly he must be given to Hospitality I do know my self a
Interpreters both Antient and Later expounded to be the Bishops of those Cities 6. Eusebius and other Ecclesiastical Writers affirm none contradicting them that the Apostles themselves chose James Bishop of Jerusalem and that in all the Apostolique Sees there succeeded Bishops which continued in all the Christian World and no other Government heard of in the Church for 1500 Years and more then by the Bishops and the Canons of Councils both General and Provincial which consisted of Bishops 7. That so many Acts of Parliament and Laws of the Kingdom and Statutes of Colledges of both Vniversities have relation to Bishops that the removing of them especially there having been never no other Government settled in this Kingdom will breed and make Confusion and no Reformation but rather a Deformation in the Church yet it were to be wished That in some things our Government might be reduced to the Constitutions and Practice of the Primitive Church especially in these Particulars 1. That Bishops did ordinarily and constantly Preach either in the Metropolitan Church or in the Parochial Church in their Visitations 2. That they might not Ordain any Ministers without the Consent of 3. or 4. at the least Grave and Learned Presbyters 3. That they might not suspend any Minister ab Officio et Beneficio at their Pleasures by their sole Authority but only with a necessary Consent of some Assistants and that for such Causes and Crimes only as the ancient Canons or the Laws of the Kingdom appointed 4. That none may be Excommunicated but by the Bishop himself with the Consent of the Pastor whose Parish the Delinquent dwelleth in and that for heynous and scandalous Crimes joyned with obstinate and wilful Contempts of the Churches Authority and that for non-Appearances or Ordinances upon ordinary occasions some Lesser punishments might be inflicted and that approved by Law 5. That Bishops might not demand Benevolence for the Clergy nor exact Allowance for their Dyet at the Visitations nor suffer their Servants to exact undue Fees at Ordinations and Institutions 6. That Bishops and Chancellors and Officials may be subject to the Censures of Provincial Synods and Convocations A Bill was Read the first and second time for the speedy raising Mony for Disbanding the Armies Tuesday June 22. Disbanding Bill read twice and Committed to a Committee of the whole House A most Excellent Petition from the University of Oxon for the retaining and Establishing of Episcopacy but alas they did but surdis Canere these Serpents were not to be charmed by their Sovereign much less by the Muses though they could have charmed ten thousand times more powerfully and wisely than they did However it will be for their Immortal Glory That in the worst of Times and even when the Storm was in its most blustring Rage they durst oppose the Tempest and Defend the Truth The Petition was as follows To the High and Honourable Court of Parliament The Humble Petition of the University of Oxford Sheweth THAT whereas the Vniversity hath been informed of several Petitions concerning the present Government of this Church The Petition of the University of Oxon for Episcopacy June 22. 1641. and maintenance of the Clergy which have of late been exhibited to this Honourable Assembly We could not but think our Selves bound in Duty to God and this whole Nation in charity to our Selves and Successors who have and are like to have more than ordinary interest in any Resolution that shall be taken concerning Church-Affairs in all humility to desire the continuance of that Form of Government which is now Established here and hath been preserved in some of the Eastern and Western Churches in a continued Succession of Bishops down from the very Apostles to this present time the like whereof cannot be affirmed of any other Form of Government in any Church Upon which Consideration and such other Motives as have been already represented to this Honourable Parliament from other Persons and Places with whom we concur in behalf of Episcopacy We earnestly desire That you would Protect that Ancient and Apostolical Order from Ruine or Diminution And become farther Suiters for the Continuance of those Pious Foundations of Cathedral Churches with their Lands and Revenues As dedicate to the Service and Honour of God soon after the plantation of Christianity in the English Nation As thought fit and Useful to be preserved for that end when the Nurseries of Superstition were demolished and so continued in the last and best Times since the Blessed Reformation under King Edw. 6. Q. Elizabeth and King James Princes Renowned through the World for their Piety and Wisdome As approved and confirmed by the Laws of this Land Ancient and Modern As the principal outward Motive and Encouragement of all Students especially in Divinity and the fittest Reward of some deep and eminent Scholars As producing or nourishing in all Ages many Godly and Learned Men who have most strongly asserted the Truth of that Religion we profess against the many fierce Oppositions of our Adversaries of Rome As affording a competent Portion in an ingenuous way to many Younger Brothers of good Parentage who devote themselves to the Ministery of the Gospel As the only means of Subsistence to a multitude of Officers and other Ministers who with their Families depend upon them and are wholly maintained by them As the main Authors or Upholders of divers Schools Hospitals High-wayes Bridges and other Publique and Pious Works As special Causes of much Profit and Advantage to those Cities where they are situate not only by relieving their Poor and keeping convenient Hospitality but by occasioning a frequent resort of Strangers from other Parts to the great benefit of all Tradesmen and most Inhabitants in those places As the goodly Monuments of our Predecessors Piety and present Honour of this Kingdom in the Eye of Forreign Nations As the chief Support of many Thousand Families of the Laity who enjoy fair Estates from them in a free way As yielding a constant and ample Revenue to the Crown And as by which many of the Learned Professours in our Vniversity are maintained The Subversion or Alienation whereof must as we conceive not only be attended with such consequences as will redound to the scandal of many well affected to our Religion but open the mouths of our Adversaries and of Posterity against us and is likely in time to draw after it harder conditions upon a considerable part of the Laity an universal cheapness and contempt upon the Clergy a lamentable drooping and defection of Industry and Knowledg in the Vniversities which is easie to foresee but will be hard to remedy May it therefore please this Honourable Assembly upon these and such other Considerations as Your great Wisdomes shall suggest to take such Pious Care for the Continuance of these Religious Houses and their Revenues according to the best Intentions of their Founders as may be to the most furtherance of God's Glory and Service the Honour
the right Way It behoves us therefore and is expedient that we should add a Period to these Irregular ways that the Vulgar may no longer wander ill in these distracted parts Master Speaker I have now unloaded my mind of her weary burthen and I beseech you digest my words with your serious considerations in this respect of establishing the Church-Government in true sincere perfect and unpoluted Religion which if we do perform and fully effect we shall do great Honour to God get great Credit to our Selves and give great Satisfaction to the whole Kingdom This is my Opinion this is my Expectation this is my Prayer and lastly this is my Hope A Message was sent this Morning from the House of Commons by the Lord Viscount Wainman Message about a Bill for Clerk of the Market c. who said he was Commanded to deliver to their Lordships Three Bills which had passed the House of Commons 1. Entituled An Act for the better ordering the Office of Clerk of the Market allowed and confirmed by this Statute and for the Reformation of the false Weights and Measures 2. An Act against divers Encroachments and Oppressions in the Stannery Courts 3. An Act for the Confirmation of his Majesty's Letters Patents to the Town of Plymouth and for dividing the Parish and building of a new Church And he was further to desire a dispatch of some Bills brought up formerly as the Bill against Pluralities and that their Lordships would appoint some time when their Lordships shall be at leisure that the Commons may come up with the Impeachment against the Judges The Answer which was returned to the Message was The Lords Answer That their Lordships will give a dispatch to these Bills now brought up with all convenient speed and will in a short time give a dispatch to the Bill against Pluralities And further it was told them That their Lordships have appointed great business this Morning concerning the safety of the Kingdom but will Sit this Afternoon at Three of the Clock at which time they will give the House of Commons a meeting concerning the Impeachments of the Judges The House of Commons this Day fell upon the matter of their Priviledges in the Case of Mr. Hollis and others 3 Car. Tuesday July 6. and upon the Debate of the House came to these following Votes Votes about Priviledge in the Case of Hollis c. 3 Car. Resolved c. That the Warrants of the Lords and others of the Privy Council compelling Mr. Hollis and others to appear before them during that Parliament is a Breach of Priviledg Resolved c. That the Committing of Mr. Hollis and others by the Lords and others of the Privy Council 3 Car. during that Parliament is a Breach of Priviledg Resolved c. That the Searching and Sealing of the Chambers Studies and Papers of Mr. Hollis Mr. Selden and Sir John Eliot being Members of Parliament and issuing out Warrants for that purpose is a breach of Priviledg Resolved c. That the Exhibiting an Information in the Court of Star-Chamber against Mr. Hollis and others for Matters done by them in Parliament being Members of Parliament is a breach of Priviledg Resolved c. That Sir Robert Heath Sir Humphrey Davenport Sir Heneage Finch Mr. Hudson and Sir Robert Berkley that subscribed the said Informations are guilty of the breach of Priviledg Resolved c. That there was a Delay of Justice towards Mr. Hollis and others upon the Habeas Corpora in that they were not Bayled in Easter or Trinity Term 5 Car. Resolved c. That Sir Nicholas Hide then Lord Chief Justice of the Court of Kings-Bench is guilty of this Delay Resolved c. That Sir William Jones one of the Justices of the Kings-Bench is guilty of this Delay Resolved c. That Sir James Whitlock Knight one of the Justices of the Kings-Bench is guilty of this Delay A Conference was had with the Lords in the Painted Chamber at the transmitting of the Impeachments of the Judges at which time Mr. William Perpoint upon the reading the Articles against Sir Robert Berkley Knight one of the Justices of the Court of Kings-Bench made this Speech in aggravation of their Crimes My Lords I Am Commanded to present to your Lordships these Articles Mr. William Perpoint's Speech at the Impeachment of Sir Robert Berkley July 6. 1641. with which the Knights Citizens and Burgesses of the Commons House of Parliament in their own Name and in the Name of all the Commons of England Impeach Sir Robert Berkley Knight one of the Justices of his Majesties Court of Kings-Bench in maintenance of their Accusation of High Treason and other great Misdemeanours The Articles they desire may be read The Articles were read by Mr. Newport The High Treason is in the first Article in his Endeavours to Subvert the Fundamental Laws of this Realm and to introduce an Arbitrary and Tyrannical Government which hath been lately adjudged Treason in the Cause of the Earl of Strafford The other Articles prove the first By his Opinions Certificates Judgments by his denials of the benefits of our Laws which have been read to your Lordships No Fundamental Law to the Subject is left our Goods our Lands our Bodies the peace of a good Conscience are by him given up to Arbitrary Tyrannical Government Nothing hath been omitted to make a Judge know the Lawes to make him Just or fear him from being Evil We have Inns of Court peculiar to that Study Judges from thence onely chosen seldom any but what have been Twenty Years there Honours and Revenues are given to Judges Encouragements to do well this Judge had these Judges are sworn according to Law to serve the King and his People according to Law to Counsel the King and for not so doing to be at his Will for Body Lands and Goods this Judge took that Oath The Lawes the Judges study impose the greatest punishments upon unjust Judges shew that these punishments have been inflicted more could not be done to perswade or fear a Judge His Offences shew in him great Ambition yet he was most timorous of displeasing the Great in Power He did not only forbear doing what he was sworn to do but was most active against our Laws and in opposing and punishing any that did maintain them To have only received Bribes though they blind the Eyes and though the Desire to get Money encreaseth with Age that hainous Crime in a Judge had been in comparison with his Offences a tolerable Vice for from such a Judge Justice is also to be had for money Ambition is violent and ruines whilst Covetousness is making a Bargain The words of his Opinion and Judgment are for the King's Power It is pleasing to the Nature of Man that others should obey his Will and well framed dispositions of Princes may easily be perswaded their Power is unlimited when they are also put in mind that therefore they have
Court refuse to impose any Fine whatsoever upon the said James Maleverer and told him that the said Court had no Power to Fine him and that he must compound with certain Commissioners for that purpose appointed And did farther order and direct several other Writs of Distringas to issue forth of His Majesties said Court of Exchequer under the Seal of the said Court directed to the several High Sheriffs of the said County of York whereby the said Sheriffs were commanded further to distrain the said James Maleverer to appear as aforesaid upon which said Writs of Distringas several great and excessive Issues were returned upon the Lands of the said James Maleverer amounting to the Summ of two Thousand Pounds or thereabouts a great part whereof the said James Maleverer was inforced to pay and in like manner the said Sir Humphrey Davenport together with the rest of the then Barons of the said Court of Exchequer did order and direct such and the like unjust and undue Proceedings and the said Proceedings were had and made accordingly against Thomas Moyser Esquire and against several other Persons His Majesties Subjects in several Parts of this Realm to the utter undoing of many of them 2. That a Sentence of Degradation being given by the High Commissioners of the Province of York against Peter Smart Clerk one of the Prebends of the Church of Durham for a Sermon by him formerly Preached against some Innovations in the Church of Durham a Tryal was afterwards had viz. in August in the seventh Year of his said Majesties Reign before the said Sir Humphrey Davenport Knight then one of the Judges of Assizes and Nisi prius for the County Palatine of Durham concerning the Corps of the Prebend of the said Master Smart which was then pretended to be void by the said Sentence of Degradation the said Sir Humphrey Davenport contrary to his Oath and contrary to the Laws of this Realm and to the destruction of the said Master Smart upon reading the Writ de haeretico comburendo did publickly on the Bench in the presence of divers His Majesties Subjects then attending declare his Opinion to be That the said Prebends Place was void and gave directions to the Jury then at Bar to find accordingly and being then informed that although the said Master Smart had been dead or deprived yet the Profits of his Prebend had been due to his Executors till the Michaelmas following the said Sir Humphrey Davenport then answered That though the said Master Smart was not dead Yet if he had his desert he had been dead long ago for he deserved to have been hanged for the said Sermon and that he was as wicked a Man as any lived in the World call him no more Master Smart but plain Smart And when the said Jury had found against the said Master Smart the said Sir Humphrey Davenport in scandal of His Majesties Government and Justice and of the Proceedings of His Majesties Judges did publickly as aforesaid speak Words to this effect That the said Jury had well done and that the said Smart had no remedy save by appeal to the King and there he should find but cold Comfort for the King would not go against his own Prerogative upon which the Judges and High Commissioners did depend and therefore would not contradict one anothers Acts. That the said Sir Humphrey Davenport about the Month of November Anno Dom. 1635. then being Lord Chief Baron of his Majesties Court of Exchequer and having taken an Oath for the due Administration of Justice to His Majesties Liege People according to the Laws and Statutes of this Realm subscribed his Name to an Opinion in haec verba I am of Opinion That as where the benefit doth more particularly redound to the good of the Ports or Maritime Parts as in Case of Piracy or Depredations upon the Seas there the charge hath been and may be lawfully imposed upon them according to Presidents of former Times so where the good and safety of the Kingdom in general is concerned and the whole Kingdom in danger of which His Majesty is the only Judg there the Charge of the Defence ought to be borne by all the Realm in general this I hold agreeable both to Law and Reason That in or about the Month of February Anno Dom. 1636. the said Sir Humphrey Davenport then being Lord Chief Baron of the said Court of Exchequer subscribed an extrajudicial Opinion in Answer to Questions in a Letter from His Majesty ut supra in the Articles against Judge Bramston and Judge Berkley That whereas an Action of Battery was brought by one Richard Legge against Robert Hoblins to which the said Hoblins pleaded Justification de son assault de mesme and the said Cause came to Tryal at the Assizes holden for the County of Gloucester in Summer An. 1636. before the said Sir Humphrey Davenport then one of the Justices of Assize and Nisi prius for that County At the said Tryal the said Robert Hoblins did begin to make proof of his said Justification and produced one Robert Tilly a Witness in the Cause who proved upon Oath that the said Richard Legge did make the first Assault upon the said Robert Hoblins and that the occasion thereof was that the said Richard Legge and others came upon the Lands then in Possession of the said Hoblins and did take and drive away eighteen Cows of the said Hoblins pretending they had a Warrant from the Sheriff to distrain the same for forty Shillings assessed upon the said Hoblins for Ship-Money And when the said Hoblins being present endeavoured to hinder the said Legge and others from taking away his said Cattel the said Legge strook the said Hoblins with a Staff who after defended himself That upon the opening of the Matter the said Sir Humphrey Davenport would not suffer the said Hoblins to produce any more Witnesses on his behalf though the said Hoblins desired that other of his Witnesses then present and sworn might be heard nor his Councel to speak for him but being informed that the said Hoblins when Ship-Money was demanded of him answered that he would not pay the same because it was not granted by Parliament the said Sir Humphrey Davenport did then openly in the hearing of a great number of His Majesties Liege People then assembled and attending the Court in great Passion reprove the said Hoblins and told him that the King was not to call a Parliament to give him satisfaction and did then and there also falsly and of purpose to prevent His Majesties loving Subjects from the due and ordinary course of Law and contrary to his Oath and the Laws of the Realm Publish Declare and affirm that it was adjudged by all the Judges of England that Ship-money was due to the King and directed the Jury Sworn in that cause to find a Verdict for the said Richard Legge And the said Jury did accordingly and gave him twenty Pound damages And the said
bind us to it Wherefore Master Whitlock my humble Motion is That we may draw up a short and round Manifesto to wait upon and affirm the Kings Declaration to be still managed by Advice of Parliament which will be safe for our selves more powerful and effectual for the Prince Elector I cannot tell what the present Age thought of it and account it one of the greatest blessings of Heaven that I was not then capable of thinking but certainly Posterity will see by this Speech a most notorious and manifest Collusion in these People who notwithstanding all the glorious pretences and zeal for this deplorable Family in which the Honour and Interest of the King and Nation were by their own Confession so deeply concerned yet never intended any more assistance to this distressed Protestant Prince then a few good and great words which was a cheap way and still reserving to themselves a starting hole to assist the King in this Affair only so long as he would follow their advice Mr. Hide Reports the Results upon the Bill for abolishing Episcopacy whereupon it was Resolved Votes concerning the Bill for abolishing Episcopacy c. That all the Lands Possessions and Rights of the Deans Deans and Chapters shall be committed to the hands of Feoffees to be nominated by this Bill Resolved c. That the Lands and Possessions of the Arch-Bishops and Bishops of England and Wales except Impropriations and Advousons shall by this Bill be given to the King Resolved c. That the Impropriations and Advousons belonging to the Arch-Bishops and Bishops of England and Wales shall be committed to the hands of Feoffees in the same manner as the Lands of Deans and Chapters are appointed to be And because the Prelates and Papists were to be coupled together in the Opinions of these People both in Guilt and Sufferings it was by Vote Reselved Vote against Papists c. That the Committe of 48 propound to the Select Committee of the Lords that no Papist hereafter may have the keeping of any Castle Fort Chase Forrest Park or Walk within England or Wales and that such as are in possession of such Castles c. As aforesaid may be outed thereof according to Law Post Meridiem It was Ordered by the Commons Order about Mr. Randal a Minister formerly ordered to Bedlam That one Mr. Randal a Ministerâ— now in the Goal at Ailesbury in the County of Bucks for words spoken against the Honour of this House who was by a former Order appointed to be removed from thence to Bedlam it is now Ordered that the said Mr. Randal shall be discharged and set at liberty presently upon the sight hereof The further Debate upon Mr. Saturday July 10. Further Votes about the Bill for abolishing Episcopacy Hide 's Report about the Bill for abolishing Episcopacy was this day reassumed whereupon it was Resolved c. That a competent Maintenance shall be allowed out of the Lands and Possessions of the Cathedral Churches for the support of a fit number of Preaching Ministers for the Service of every such Church and a proportionable allowance for the Reparation of the said Churches Resolved c. That such Ecclesiastical Power as shall be Exercised for the Government of the Church shall be transferred by this Act unto the hands of Commissioners to be named by this Act. The further consideration of this matter to be referred till Monday 9 of the Clock Bill for Tonnage and Poundage being passed Mr. Solicitor was ordered to carry it up to the Lords and to move their Lordships that the Royal Assent may be had with as much speed as may be and to move the Lords to expedite the Bill against Pluralities and for disarming Recusants This day Thomas Pain the Attorney Breach of Priviledge giving the Lye to a Peer that gave the ill Language to the Earl of Thannet who charged the said Pain with some Words which were reported to be spoken by him he told the said Earl That it was False and a Lye divers times together which being proved upon Oath it was Ordered That the said Pain be committed to the Custody of the Gentleman-Vsher for the present and this House will take the misdemeanor into further consideration Report of the Conference about the Ten Heads The Earl of Bristol reported the effect of the last meeting with the Select Committee of both Houses concerning the 10 Heads and delivered some Queries and Propositions which the House of Commons made viz. Whether the Colledge of Capuchins at Somerset-House should be sent away out of this Kingdom for they are conceived to be busie Men in giving Intelligence to Forreign States and the House of Commons are induced to believe so because they understand That the Letters of the Capuchins which were Imported and Exported in one Week came to 3 l. 10 s. the Carriage Next they conceive That there are some things contained in the Articles of Treaty of Marriage with France which are contrary to Law Concerning the Education of the Prince they said they would consult further of it Concerning Licenses granted to Recusants They desire His Majesty may be moved that none may be granted hereafter Concerning the removing of the Popish Recusant Ladies from the Court they say they mentioned no particulars but spoke in the General Concerning Pensions They desire that the King may be moved That no Papist beyond the Seas may have any Pension Touching that which concerns the Queen they conceive they have had no full answer yet Concerning their Explanation who are Active Papists they mean those Recusants that are Rich and have most Power in the Countries where they Live as well Peers as others which they desire may be disarmed according to Law Concerning the Popes Nuncio they say the House of Commons are preparing a Bill Concerning the Lord Lieutenants and Deputy Lieutenants considering the State of this Kingdom as it now stands the House of Commons desires they may be such Persons as both Houses approve of and that they may be enabled the more for the defence of this Kingdom there will be a Course taken for Supplying them with Monies out of the Subsidies and the House of Commons desires that the King may be moved to let them have such Powder out of His Majesties Stores as may be spared and they will pay after the Rate of ten Pence per Pound for it as soon as they can get money and further to move His Majesty that the Arms which have been taken from the several Counties may be restored to them and if His Majesty can spare any Arms out of His Store they will buy them to furnish these Southern parts The new Bill for Tonnage and Poundage being read the Third time in the Lords House and being put to the Question Another Bill for Tonnage and Poundag passed the Lords House An Order of the Lords for Relief of a Feme-Covert and her Children against a Husband refusing to
Counties in this Kingdom but they conceive that their Names will be unacceptable and their Persons unwelcome and being thus Impeached to become Judges of Mens Lives and Estates will be a thing of great offence and distraction Therefore the House of Commons desired that all the Commissions granted to the Peccant Judges may be superseded and that their Names may be no more Vsed in Commissions and when the great Affairs now in agitation be dispatched they desired their Lordships to take their Impeachments into Consideration and proceed therein according to Justice Ordered That this House Consents to both these Requests of the House of Commons touching the aforesaid Judges This day the Lord Bruce was introducted with the usual Ceremonies his Patent bearing Date Aug. 2. 1641. Lord Bruce introducted The Earl of March reported to this House The Kings Answer about the Irish Acts. That His Majesty is pleased to like well of the Advice of this House concerning the staying of the Acts of Grace and Favour which were to be passed for the Kingdom of Ireland and will give order it shall be done accordingly until this House hath considered of the Letter sent to the Lord Keeper from the Speaker of the Lords House in Ireland Propositions of the Scots Commissioners and Answers of the English Lords Commissioners August 5. 1641. Propositions for the concluding the Peace with the Scots The Earl of Bristol reported the Propositions and Articles given in by the Scots Commissioners after the Lord Lowdon's return from the Parliament of Scotland which were read as followeth That the Treaty of Peace may be brought to a speedy and happy Close we do offer to your Lordships Consideration the following Particulars I. That as soon as the Scottish Army shall remove out of England to Scotland the English Garrisons of Berwick and Carlisle may remove simul semel II. Lest Malefactors who have committed Murder and the like Crimes crave the Benefit of the Act of Pacification and Oblivion for whom it is no ways intended there would be an Exception from the said Acts of all Legal pursuits intended or to be intended within the space of one year after the Date of the Treaty against Thieves * A Scotch word for Excommunicate Persons Horners Out-lawers Fugitives Murderers Broken men or their Receptaries for whatsoever Thefts Rifes Hardships Oppressions Depredations or Murders done or committed by them and all Lawful Decrets given or to be given by the Parliament or any Commissioners to be appointed by them for that effect who shall have power to Dignosce and take Cognition whether the same falls within the said Act of Pacification or Oblivion or not III. It is desired that the demand concerning the not making or denouncing War with Forreigners without consent of both Parliaments may be condescended unto by the King and the Parliament of England which is Ordained and Universally observed in all mutual Leagues which are both Offensive and Defensive and because the Wars denounced by one of the Kingdoms with Forreigners although made without consent of the other Kingdom will Engage them by necessary Consequence Or if the Consideration of this Proposition shall require longer time then the present Condition of the Important Affairs of the Parliament may permit and lest the speedy Close of the Treaty be thereby impeded it is desired that this Demand with the other Two Articles of the same Nature the one concerning Leagues and Confederations and the other concerning mutual Supply in case of Forreign Invasion may all three be remitted to Commissioners to be chosen by both Parliaments who shall have Power to Advise and Treat thereupon for the good of both Kingdoms and Report to the Parliament Respectively IV. It is desired That the Articles concerning Trade and Commerce Naturalization mutual Priviledge and Capacity and others of that nature already demanded may be condescended unto by the King and Parliament of England and namely that demand anent the Pressing of Men and Ships by Sea or Land Or if shortness of time may not permit the present determination of these Demands it is desired that the same except so many of them as are already agreed unto by the Commissioners for Trade may be remitted to Commissioners to be chosen by both Parliaments who shall have Power to Treat and Advise thereof for the good of both Kingdoms and to make Reports to the Parliament respectively and that the Charters or Warrants of the Scottish Nation for freedom of Shipping in England or Ireland from all Customs Imports Duties and Fees more then are paid by the Natives of England or Ireland granted by King James under the Great Seal of England upon the 11th day of April in the 13th year of his Reign and Confirmed by King Charles upon the 19th of April in the 8th year of his Reign may be Enacted and Ratified in this Parliament V. That the Extracts of Bonds and Decrets upon Record and Registers in Scotland may have the like Faith and Execution as the French Tabellons have in England and Ireland seeing they are of a like Nature and deserves more Credit and if this cannot be done at this time that it be remitted to the former Commission from both Parliaments VI. The manner of Safe Conduct for Transporting the Monys from England or Scotland by Sea or Land would be condescended unto in such way as the Charges be not Exorbitant and may be presently known VII The Tenor of the Commission for Conserving of Peace would be condescended unto together with the Times and Places of meeting and whole frame thereof the draught whereof when it is drawn up in England is to be represented to the Parliament of Scotland that they may make the like Commission and name their Commissioners for that effect VIII The Parliament of Scotland do join their earnest and hearty desires and craves the Parliament of England's Concurrence that none be placed about the Prince's Highness but such as are of the Reformed Religion IX That an Act of Parliament of Publick Faith for payment of the 220000 l. which is Arrear of the Brotherly assistance may be presently framed and expedited according to the Terms agreed upon X. It is desired that the Quorum to whom the Scots should Address themselves for payment of the 220000 l. be condescended upon XI That the Order for recalling all Proclamations made against His Majesties Subjects of Scotland be drawn up and intimate in due Form and Time with the Public Thanksgiving at all the Parish Churches of His Majesties Dominions XII It is desired That the Articles concerning the Castle of Edinburgh and other Strengths of that Kingdom may be understood to be that the same shall be disposed of for the Weal of the Kingdom as the King and Parliament shall think Expedient The English Lords Commissioners Answers THat upon the disbanding the Scottish Army the Garrisons of Berwick and Carlisle shall be removed according to the Articles of the Treaty in that
behalf The Second Article is condescended unto according to the Proposition added to the Act of Pacification The Third Demand concerning making of War with Forreigners with the other Two Articles concerning Leagues and Confederations and concerning mutual Supply and Assistance against forreign Invasion is agreed to be referred to Commissioners to be chosen by His Majesty and the Parliaments As likewise the Fourth Fifth and Sixth Articles concerning Trade Commerce Naturalization mutual Priviledges and Capacity and other of that Nature and the demands concerning the Extract of Bonds and Decrets and the manner of safe Conduct for Transporting the Monys from England to Scotland are all referred to be taken into Consideration by the Commissioners to be appointed by both Parliaments who shall have power to Advise and Treat thereupon and report to the Parliaments respectively It is just that the Tenor of the Commission for Conserving of Peace should be agreed on by mutual Consent but the closing of the Treaty not to stay hereupon but to be left to the Commissioners to be named To that desire concerning such as should be placed about the Prince the King hath already given a clear satisfactory Answer That there be an Act of Parliament of Publick Faith for securing the payment of 220000 l. which is Arrear of the Brotherly Assistance is just and order is given for it accordingly and it shall be Communicated with the Scottish Commissioners that it may be a perfect Security The Tenth for appointing a Quorum for attending the payment of the Mony is already moved to the Parliament and will be done as is desired The Eleventh Article is very just and order shall be given accordingly for recalling all Proclamations and for Publick Thanksgiving The Twelfth Article for the Castle of Edinburgh and other Strengths of Scotland is to be settled betwixt His Majesty and the Commissioners of Scotland or by His Majesty and the Parliament of Scotland Which being read this House approved both of the Propositions and the Answers and Ordered That they should be Communicated to the House of Commons â—o morrow morning Mr. Thursday August 5. Report of the Conference about the Custos Regni Pym Reports the Conference with the Lords concerning the Custos Regni Lord Privy Seal told them That the occasion of this Conference was the matter of a former Conference desired by this House wherein two Propositions were delivered concerning a Custos Regni Commissioners to be appointed in the Kings absence to Pass these Bills 1. The Act of Treaty 2. Any Bill for raising Mony as there shall be occasion 3. For raising of Forces for Service at Sea and Land to resist forreign Invasions or Seditions at home with all things necessarily incident thereunto 4. Any Bill for Tonnage and Poundage or other Duties upon the Exportation or Importation of Commodities 5. The Bill for the preservation of the Mines for Salt-Petre and making Gun-Powder for the defence of the Kingdom 6. A Power to Pass the Bill concerning the 8 Subsidies given by the Clergy A short Act to be drawn Authorizing the Passing of Bills to be conceived upon these Heads Lord Say said That the Lords intended not to conclude this House but that they might add what they should think necessary to be Expedited in the King's absence and that some Course might be taken that the Parliament might Sit till an Act might pass to Enable and Confirm this Commission The House was then acquainted That the Bishoprick of Durham County of Northumberland and Town of Newcastle are willing to take the Parliaments Security for Billet Whereupon it was agreed That the House is contented to pay with all speed unto the Scots Commissioners the residue of the 80000 l. which they have provided accordingly and desire that the Scots Commissioners give speedy notice thereof unto their General whereby he may apply himself to put the Army into a readiness to march away according to their promises immediately upon the receipt of the said Monys And this House desireth they will receive so much of the said Mony here as conveniently they can dispose of and the House is ready to send the Residue to Newcastle if they shall desire it This day one Mr. Smith Rector of Long-Ditton in Kent Mr. Smith a Minister sent to the Gate-house who was sent for as a Delinquent upon an Information given in against him by some of the Godly and Well Affected Party that he should say The House of Commons had undeservedly Imprisoned an honester Man than any of themselves in the Tower meaning the Arch-Bishop of Canterbury For which he was committed to the Gate-House Bill against Knighthood passed by the Lords Message from the Commons about disbanding This day the Bill to prevent vexatious proceedings touching the Order of Knighthood being read a Third time and put to the Question it was Resolved to pass as a Law A Message was brought from the House of Commons by Sir Philip Stapleton to let their Lordships know That they have considered of the disbanding of both Armies and are provided of Mony to effect it and that they have resolved to take the Publick Faith of the Scots for their disbanding Further That the House of Commons had made an Order That the Horse of the King's Army be first disbanded therefore do desire this House to joyn with them That the Horse of the King's Army be first disbanded and that forthwith To which after some Consideration the Lords agreed The Petition of the Creditors of Sir Thomas Dawes was read shewing A Ne exeat regnum awarded a gainst Sir Tho. Dawes That they stand bound with the said Sir Thomas for great Sums of Mony and they have Reason to fear that he will depart this Kingdom Hereupon it was Ordered That there shall be a Ne Exeat Regnum issued out against the said Sir Thomas Dawes The House of Commons being upon the Consideration of the King's Journey Friday August 6. Commons resolved to insist upon a Locum Tenens in the Kings absence it was Resolved c. That this House shall at a Conference with the Lords insist upon the King 's appointing a Locum Tenens during his absence The Bishop of Lincoln reports the Conference with the Commons about a Locum Tenens in the King's absence in these words That formerly the House of Commons had brought up a Proposition concerning a Custos Regni in the King's absence Conference about a locum tenens in the Kings absence of which they have received no Answer which makes them now renew it again as formerly and they do offer some more Reasons 1. Because that in the King's absence many Emergent Occasions may happen in Parliament or otherwise where necessary use may be of the King's Authority especially in these time when things are not yet so fully setled 2. That by all Presidents it doth appear That when a Parliament was Sitting in the King's absence there was a Custos
which moved them to desire the Horse might be first Disbanded was of very special Importance and still inclineth them to continue the same expectation for those who are yet undisbanded but for the time past they rest satisfied in the answer and proceedings of your Excellency assuring themselves That though there was some difference in the way yet you fully agreed with them in the end which is to ease the Common-wealth and settle the publick Peace with as much expedition as may be for the more speedy effecting whereof there is already 23000 l. on the way and Order given for 27000 l. more to be sent with all speed and a Course taken by the House of Commons to quicken the payments of the Poll Money in the Nine Shires adjoyning to York and both Houses of Parliament have by an express Ordinance commanded the Sheriffs of eight other Counties to bring all their Money immediately to York whereby the House conceiveth and hopeth your Excellency will be supplied with Treasure sufficient to Disband the remainder of the Army at the time prescribed or sooner if it may be and that by your prudent and faithful effecting thereof the heavy burthen of Care and Pains which lies upon you in the discharge of this great Trust will be removed and shall end in the thanks and obligations of this House and of the whole Kingdom producing to your Excellency such an Increase of Honor and happiness as shall be suitable to your own Merit and the desires of Your Excellency's humble Servant Edward Littleton Custos Sigilli To stir up the City to lend more money the Commons fell upon the Debate of the Case of London-Derry and thereupon Mr. Whistler Reports from the Committee appointed to examin that matter the Case of London-Derry upon which it was 1 Resolved upon the Question Votes about London-Derry in Ireland That it is the Opinion of this House that the Citizens of London were sollicited and pressed to the under taking of the Plantation of London-Derry 2 Resolved c. That the Copy attested with Mr. Soams his Hand is a true Copy of the Sentence in the Star-Chamber given against the Mayor and Commonalty of the City of London and the Society of the Governor and Assistants of London of the new Plantation of Vlster in the Kingdom of Ireland 3 Resolved c. That the Order made in the Court of Star-Chamber Dated 8. May 8 Car. is unlawful both for the Matter Persons and time therein prefixed 4 Resolved c. That the King was not deceived in the Grant which he made unto the Society of Governors and Assistants of London of the new Plantation of Vlster in the Kingdom of Ireland in particular not in creating a new Corporation called the Society of the Governor and Assistants of London of the new Plantation of Vlster in the Kingdom of Ireland 5 Resolved c. That in creating the new Corporation of the Society of the Governor c. The King did not by that Patent grant more Lands then was by him intended to be granted nor was therein deceived 6 Resolved c. That it doth not appear by sufficient Proof that the Citizens of London were tyed to perform the Printed Articles and consequently not bound to plant with English and Scots nor restrained from planting with Natives 6 Resolved c. That though by the 27 Article the City was to build 200 Houses in Derry and 100 Houses at Colerain by the first Day of November 1611 admitting the Houses were not Built nor the Castle of Culmore repaired by the time prefixed yet this is no Crime nor cause for giving Damages in regard the City had not their Patent until the 29th of March 1613. 8 Resolved c. That there is no proof that the Governor and Assistants of London of the new Plantations or any of the twelve Companies did make any Lease unto any Popish Recusant nor of any decay of Religion there by default of the Planters 9 Resolved c. That there is no proof of any default in the Planters for not making of a sufficient number of Free-holders nor any Article that doth tye them thereunto 10 Resolved c. That there is no proof that the City of London or their Governor of the new Plantation have felled any Trees in the Woods called Glancanking and Killitrough contrary to their Covenant 11 Resolved c. That the not conveying of Glebe-Lands to the several Incumbents of the several Parish Churches in regard they did not enjoy the Lands is no Crime punishable nor cause of Seizure of their Lands 12 Resolved c. That the breach of Covenant if any such were is no sufficient cause to forfeit Lands 13 Resolved c. That the breach of Covenant is no Crime but Tryable in the ordinary Courts of Justice 14 Resolved c. That the Court of Star-Chamber whil'st it stood as a Court had not any power to examin or determin breach of Covenant or Trust 15 Resolved c. That the Court of Star-Chamber while it stood a Court had no power to examin Free-hold Inheritance 16 Resolved c. That the Sentence upon these two Corporations aggregate no particular Person being Guilty is against Law 17 Resolved c. That in all the proof of this cause there doth not appear matter sufficient to convince the City of London of any Crime 18 Resolved c. That upon the whole matter this Sentence in the Star-Chamber was unlawful and unjust 19 Resolved c. That this composition and agreement made with the City upon these Terms in this time of extremity ought not to bind the City 20 Resolved c. That this House is of Opinion that when the King shall be pleased to repay those Monies which he hath received upon this composition and such Rents as he hath received by colour of this Sentence that then His Majesty shall be restored to the same State he was in and the Patent thereupon gotten shall be cancelled or surrendred 21 Resolved c. That the Citizens of London and all those against whom the Judgment is given in the Scire facias shall be discharged of that Judgment 22 Resolved c. That the Opinion of this House is That they think fit that both the Citizens of London and those of the new Plantation and all under Tennants and all those put out of possession by the Sequestration or Kings Commissioners shall be restored to the same State they were in before the Sentence in the Star-Chamber The Plague which had for some time visited the City of London The Plague in London City Petition for a Fast began now to spread and increase upon which there was a Petition from the Magistrates Ministers and People of the City of London for a Day to be set apart for Solemn Humiliation and Fasting to implore the Divine Majesty to avert the impending Judgment of the Pestilence from the City and Nation This day it was moved Friday August 27.
auxi mesmes les Communes remercierment les seigneurs Espirituelx Temporelx de lour bon droiturell Jugment quils auoint fait come Piers du Parlement That the said Commons returned thanks to the Lords Temporal and Spiritual for the good and upright Judgment which they had made as Peers of Parliament In the 2 of H. 6 John Lord Talbot accused James Boteler Earl of Ormond Rot. Par. n. 9. 2 H. 6. in Parliament of sundry Treasons and the Record saith That De avisamento assensu Dominorum Spiritualium Temporalium ac Communitatis Regni Angliae in eodem Parliamento existent ' facta fuit quaedam Abolitio delationis nunciatonis Detectionis predict ' c. By the advice and consent of the Lords Spiritual and Temporal and the Commons of England there was made a certain abolition of the said Accusation Relation and Discovery From which Presidents it is evident that the Lords the Bishops did Sit and Debate Vote and Determin in Causes Capital as well as the other Temporal Lords The third Position is that they are a third Estate in Parliament Which is proved both by undeniable Reason and undoubted Presidents and Records That there are three Estates in the Parliament of England is a matter on all hands allowed But some Persons who would bring down the Soveraignty to a Coordinacy do affirm that the King is the third Estate the Lords making one and the Commons the other which dangerous Position as it doth submit the Monarchy to great hazzards so it gave occasion and colour to the taking away of the Peerage of the Bishops the third Estate notwithstanding their Exclusion being according to this principle left as Intire in the Lords House as it was upon the Exclusion of the Lord Abbots in the time of King Henry the Eighth Now that the King is not one of the three Estates and consequently that the Lords the Bishops must be so and were ever accounted so evidently appears by the Records of our Parliaments which are cited to this purpose as follows In the Parliament of 1. H. 4. By the Roll it appears that King Richard the Second appointed two Procurators to declare his Resignation of the Crown coram omnibus Statibus Regni before all the States of the Realm and one of the Articles against him was concerning his Impeachment of Thomas Arch-Bishop of Canterbury coram Rege omnibus Statibus Regni before the King and all the Estates of the Realm And who all these Estates of the Realm were it most fully appears in that the Commissioners for the Sentence of this unfortunate Kings deposition are said to be appointed Per Pares Proceres Regni Anglia Spirituales Temporales ejusdem Regni Communitates omnes status ejusdem Regni representantes By the Peers and Nobility of the Kingdom of England Spiritual and Temporal and the Commons of the same representing all the Estates of the said Realm So that First the Bishops are declared Peers of the Realm in Parliament Secondly The Estates of the Parliament are to represent all the Estates of the Kingdom Clergy Nobility and Commons Thirdly The three Estates in Parliament are the Lords Spiritual the Lords Temporal and the Commons of the Realm In the Roll of Parliament Rot. Parl. 1. R. 3. 1. R. 3. it is Recorded That whereas before his Coronation certain Articles were delivered unto him in the name of the three Estates of the Realm that is to say of the Lords Spiritual Lords Temporal and of the Commons by name c. Now forasmuch as neither the said three Estates neither the said Persons which in their name presented and delivered as it is aforesaid the said Roll unto our Soveraign Lord the King were Assembled in Form of Parliament divers doubts have been moved c. Now by the said three Estates Assembled in this present Parliament and by Authority of the same be ratified and Enrolled c. Upon which Record Mr. Prinn himself makes this Marginal Note The three Estates must concur to make a Parliament no one or two of them being a full or Real Parliament but all conjoyned In the 3. H. 6. it is said in the Record Prinn Abridgments of Records p. 710. 714. the three Estates Assembled in this present Parliament In the Explanation of the Duke of Bedford's Power as Protector It is said it was advised and appointed by the Authority of the King Assenting the three Estates of this Realm so that it is plain that the King was not then accounted one of them Rot. Par. 3. H. 6. n. 19. 6. H. 6. n. 24. In the 11. H. 6. The Duke of Bedford appeared in Parliament and declared the Reason of his coming coram Domino Rege tribus Statibus Regni before the King and the three Estates of the Realm 11. Hen. 6. n. 10. and n. 2. n. 2. N. 11. Domino Rege tribus Regni Statibus in presenti Parliamento Existentibus Our Lord the King and the three Estates in Parliament being present where the King is plainly distinct from the three Estates 11. H. 6. N. 2. The Lord Cromwell Lord Treasurer Exhibits a Petition in Parliament wherein he saith that the Estate and necessity of the King and of the Realm have been notified to the three Estates of the Land Assembled in Parliament In the Appendix to the Rolls of Parliament that Year the Duke of Bedford saith in his Petition to the King How that in your last Parliament yit lyked your Hyghness by yaduis of three Estates of yis Land to will me c. 23. H. 6. N. 11. Presente Domino Rege 23. H. 6. n. 11. tribus Statibus in presenti Parliamento Existentibus c. Our Lord the King being present and the three Estates in the present Parliament Assembled 28. H. 6. N. 9. Domino Rege 28. H. 6. n. 9. tribus Regni Statibus in pleno Parliamento comparentibus c. Our Lord the King and the three Estates in full Parliament appearing c. 1. H. 6. 1. H. 6. The Queen Dowager in her Petition mentioning the Ratification made in Parliament 9. H. 5. saith it was not only sworn by the King but by the three Estates of the Kingdom of England Cest assavoir Les Prelatz Nobles Grands per les Comuns de mesm le Royalm Dengleterre That is to say by the Prelats Nobles and Great Men and by the Commons of the said Realm of England And since the Reformation In the 8 of Eliz. 1. 8. Eliz. 1. The Bishops are in Parliament called one of the greatest States of this Realm From all which Instances it plainly appears First That there are three Estates in the Fundamental Constitution of every Parliament Secondly That there are three Estates besides the King and consequently that he cannot be one of the three Thirdly that the Lords Spiritual the Bishops are a Third Estate of the Realm in Parliament
Quod erat probandum Object 1. It remains now to answer some Objections which are made against these Positions And First a Canon which they urge was made at Westminster by Richard Arch-Bishop of Canterbury that Persons in Holy-Orders should not agitare Judicium sanguinis To which it is Answered That this is part of one of the Canons of Toledo which never were any part of the Common or Statute Law of this Land even in times of Popery much less obliging now since the Reformation but however the very Canon it self is perverted for the Prohibition explains it self unde prohibemus ne aut per se Membrorum truncationes faciant aut inferendas Judicent they were prohibited personally to be the Executioners in dismembring or to pronounce the Judgment or Sentence in Cases of that Nature Two Offices of which neither the Lords the Bishops nor the most inferior of the Clergy will at this time contend for or be ambitious of Object 2. It is Objected Secondly that in the 11. of Richard the Second the Bishops in Cases of Blood entred a Solemn Protestation in Parliament which was Assented to by the King the Lords Temporal and Commons with these words Non licet nobis aut alicui eorum juxta Sacrorum Canonum instituta quomodolibet interesse That according to the Canon Law it was not lawful for them or any of them in any manner to be present To this it is answered That the Protestation saith as Peers they had Right as per Baroniam de Domino Rege tenentes in Parliamentis Regis quibuscunque personaliter interesse cum caeteris Paribus aliis de Regni negotiis consulere Tractare Ordinare Statuere definire ac caetera facere quae Parliamenti tempore ibidem imminent facienda holding of our Lord the King by Baronage to be personally present in all Parliaments of the King together with the rest of the Barons and others to Consult Treat Order Appoint and Determin of the Affairs of the Kingdom and to do all other things which in the time of Parliament were there to be done And it is plain the King Temporal Barons and Commons allowed they had this Right But it being a troublesome time the Kings Ministers being to be Impeached in that Parliament which was called Parliamentum sine Misericordia because the King gave up all his Court Ministers to be Sacrificed to the Animosities of the Potent Faction of the Lords binding himself not to pardon any without their consent the Bishops were willing to get out of harms way and therefore pleaded the Canons in excuse And possibly both sides might have their several ends in consenting to this protestation the King that so he might call in Question the Acts done without them as it happened 21. R. 2. when all done in this Parliament was Repealed and made void for this Reason the Lords might consent to the Bishops withdrawing that so their Affairs might proceed without opposition against the Kings Ministers But however as before these Canons being not the Law of the Land neither then nor now could be no real Barr to their Right Nor did they upon other occasions think them so as appears by several Instances beforementioned upon the second Position It is Objected in the third place Object 3 That there was a Parliament held 25 E. 1. at St. Edmonds-Bury Excluso clero And notwithstanding many good Laws were there made and that upon this Case in Kelway's Reports it is said to be the Opinion of the Judges that the King may hold his Parliament without the Bishops To this it is answered First That it is but one single Instance and an Extraordinary Case and that it is not only ill but dangerous arguing and concluding universally from one single president for if a Parliament may be good without one Estate why not without another and according to their Position who make the King Lords and Commons the three Estates any one of the three may be Excluded upon the same reason Secondly The Bishops in this Parliament were not Excluded by the King and the other two Estates but by their own voluntary action And the occasion of it was a Bull of Pope Boniface the 8. prohibiting the Clergy to give any more Subsidies which whatever Influence it had then can have none upon the Bishops since the Reformation And whereas it is said many good Laws were made in that Parliament never since questioned it is evident by the Rolls that all that was done in that Parliament was the granting of a 12th by the Laity to the King As for Kelway's reason in his Reports that they might be excluded because they have no places in Parliament by reason of their Spiritualty but only by reason of their Temporal Baronies it will hold as well against the other Barons And that this is but one President of a Parliament without Bishops agaâ—nst a Multiutde of others wherein they were present Et consuetudo Parlamenti est Lex Parlamenti and that Law is the Law of the Land It is Objected Object 4 That if they were a distinct Estate they would have a distinct-Negative I think the best answer to this is the former that Consuetudo Parlamenti est lex Parlamenti and though former Parliaments have ever owned them a distinct Estate yet as the Author observes they sit there now not in their Spiritual Capacity as formerly in the Saxon times before Baronies but in their Temporal Capacities as Barons by Tenures and they have ever Voted in Common with the other Lords according to Custom of Parliament which is the Law of Parliament In the last place it is Objected Object 5 if they were Peers of the Realm they would according to Magna Charta be tried by their Peers but they are in Capital Cases tried by Juries of the Commons To this it is answered First That they have challenged and had this Priviledg in Parliament So John Stratford Arch-Bishop of Canterbury Antiq. Brit. p. 223. Rot. Par. 15. E. 3. n. 7. tanquam major par Regni post Regem vocem primam in Parliamento habere debens put himself upon Trial by his Peers and after great debate it was at length resolved that the Peers should be tried only by Peers in Parliament and he had appointed to examin the Articles against him 4 Bishops viz. London Hereford Bath and Exceter 4 Earls Arundel Salisbury Huntington and Suffolk 4 Barons Percy Wake Basset and Nevil After which he was admitted to answer for himself in Parliament devant les Piers before his Peers 21. R. 2. Tho. 21. R. 2. Arundel Arch-Bishop of Canterbury was Impeached of High-Treason before the King and Lords in Parliament The Kings answer was that forasmuch as this Impeachment did concern so High a Person Pier de Son Roialm a Peer of the Realm he would be advised But soon after he was condemned for Treason by the House the Proxy of the Bishops Sir Thomas Percy giving his
Brown Thomas Bourk Esquires Vlster Sir William Cole Sir James Montgomery The Remonstrance was as followeth addressed first to the L. Deputy Wendesford The humble and just Remonstrance of the Knights Citizens and Burgesses in Parliament Assembled Shewing THat in all Ages since the happy subjection of this Kingdom to the Imperial Crown of England The Irish Remonstrance it was and is a principal study and Princely Care of his Majesty and his most noble Progenitors Kings and Queens of England and Ireland to the vast Expence of Treasure and Blood That their Loyal and Dutiful People of this Land of Ireland being now for the most part derived from Brittish Ancestors should be governed according to the Municipal and Fundamental Laws of England That the Statute of Magna Charta or the Great Charter of the Liberties of England and other laudable Laws and Statutes were in several Parliaments here Enacted and Declared that by the means thereof and the most Prudent and Benign Government of his Majesty and his Royal Progenitors this Kingdom was until of late in its growth a flourishing Estate whereby the said People were heretofore enabled to answer their humble and natural Desires to comply with his Majesties Princely and Royal Occasions by their free gift of 150 Thousand pounds sterling And likewise by another free gift of 120 Thousand pounds more during the Government of the Lord Viscount Faulkland and after by the gift of 40 Thousand pounds and their free and cheerful gift of Six intire Subsidies in the Tenth Year of his Majesties Reign which to comply with his Majesties then Occasions signified to the then House of Commons they did allow should amount in the Collections unto a Hundred and fifty Thousand pounds although as they confidently believe if the Subsidies had been levied in a moderate Parliamentary way they would not have mounted to much more than half the Sum aforesaid besides the Four intire Subsidies granted in this present Parliament So it is may it please your Lordship by the occasion of infuing and other Grievances and Innovations though to his Majesty no considerable Profit this Kingdom is reduced to that Extream and Universal Poverty that the same is less able to pay Two Subsidies than it was heretofore to satisfie all the before-recited great Payments and his Majesties most Faithful People of the Land do conceive great Fears That the said Grievances and Consequences thereof may be hereafter drawn into Presidents to be perpetuated upon their Posterity which in their great hopes and strong belief they are perswaded is contrary to his Royal and Princely Intention towards his said People of which Grievances are as followeth 1. First The general apparent decay of Trades occasioned by the new and illegal raising of the Book of Rates and Impositions upon Native and other Commodities Exported and Imported by reason whereof and of extream Usage and Censures Merchants are beggered both and dis-inabled and discouraged to Trade and some of the Honorable Persons who gain thereby often Judges and Parties And that in the conclusion his Majesties Profit thereby is not considerably advanced 2. The Arbitrary decision of all Civil Causes and Controversies by paper Petitions before the Lord Lieutenant and Lord Deputy and infinite other Judicatories upon references from them derived in the nature of all Actions determinable at the Common Law not limited into certain time cause season or thing whatsoever And the consequences of such exceeding by immoderate and unlawful Fees by Secretaries Clarks Pursivants Serjeants at Arms and otherwise by which kind of proceedings his Majesty looseth a considerable part of his Revenue upon original Writs and otherwise and the Subject looseth the benefit of his Writ of Error Bill of Reversal Vouchees and other Legal and just advantages and the ordinary course and Courts of Justice declined 3. The proceedings in Civil Causes at Council Board contrary to the Law and Great Charter not limited to any certain time or season 4. That the Subject is in all the material parts thereof denyed the benefit of the Princely graces and more especially of the Statute of Limitations of 21 Jac. Granted by his Majesty in the Fourth year of his Reign upon great advice of Council of England and Ireland and for great consideration and then published in all the Courts of Dublin and in all the Counties of this Kingdom in open Assizes whereby all persons do take notice That contrary to his Majesties Pious Intentions his Subjects of this Land have not enjoyed the benefit of his Majesties Princely Promise thereby made 5. The Extrajudicial avoiding of Letters Patents of Estates of a very great part of his Majesties Subjects under the Great Seal the Publique Faith of the Kingdom by private Opinions delivered at the Council-Board without Legal Evictions of their Estates contrary to the Law and without president or example of any former Age. 6. The Proclamation for the sole Emption and uttering of Tobacco which is bought at very low rates and uttered at high and excessive rates by means whereof Thousands of Families within this Kingdome and of his Majesties Subjects in several Islands and other parts of the West-Indies as your Petitioners are informed are destroyed and the most part of the Coyn of this Kingdom is ingrossed into particular hands Insomuch as the Petitioners do conceive that the Profit arising and engrossed thereby doth surmount his Majesty's Revenue certain or casual within this Kingdom and yet his Majesty receiveth but very little Profit by the same 7. The universal and unlawful increasing of Monopolies to the advantage of a few to the disprofit of his Majesty and Impoverishment of his People 8. The extream and cruel usage of certain late Commissioners and other Stewards the British Farmers and Inhabitants of the City and County of London-Derry by means whereof the worthy Plantation of that Country is almost destroyed and the Inhabitants are reduced to great Poverty and many of them forced to forsake the Country the same being the first and most useful Plantation in the large Province of Vlster to the great weakening of the Kingdom in this time of danger the said Plantation being the principal strength of those Parts 9. The late erection of the Court of High-Commission for Causes Ecclesiastical in those necessitous times the proceedings of the said Court in many Causes without Legal Warrant and yet so supported as Prohibitions have not been obtained though legally sought for And the excessive Fees exacted by the Ministers thereof and the encroaching of the same upon the Jurisdiction of other Ecclesiastical Courts of this Kingdom 10. The exorbitant Fees and pretended Customs exacted by the Clergy against the Law some of which have been formerly represented to your Lordship 11. The Petitioners do most heartily bemoan that His Majesties service and profit are much more impaired then advanced by the Grievances aforesaid and the Subsidies granted in the last Parliament having much increased His Majesties Revenue by the buying of
Parliament Assembled not for any Doubt or Ambiguity which may be conceived or thought of for or concerning the Premisses nor of the ensuing Questions But for the manifestation and declaration of the Clear Truth and of the said Laws and Statutes already planted and for many Ages past settled in this Kingdom the said Knights Citizens and Burgesses do therefore pray That the House of the Lords may be pleased to Command the Judges of this Kingdom forthwith to declare in Writing their Resolutions of and unto the ensuing Questions and subscribe to the same Quest 1. WHether the Subjects of this Kingdom be a Free People and to be Governed only by the Common Laws of England and Statutes of Force in this Kingdom 2. Whether the Judges of this Land do take the Oath of Judges And if so Whether under pretext of any Act of State Proclamation Writ Letter or Direction under the Great or Privy Seal or Privy Signet or Letter or other Commandment from the Lord Lieutenant Lord Deputy Justice Justices or other Governor or Governors of this Kingdom they may hinder stay or delay the Suit of any Subject or his Judgment or Execution thereupon If so in what Cases And whether if they do hinder stay or delay such Suit Judgment or Execution thereupon what Punishment did they incur for their deviation or transgression therein 3. Whether the Kings Majesties Privy Council either with the Chief Governor or Governors of this Kingdom or without him or them be a Place of Judicature by the Common Laws and wherein Causes between Party and Party for Debts Trespasses Accompts Possessions or Title of Lands or any of them And which of them may be heard and determined and of what Civil Causes they have Jurisdiction and by what Law And of what Force is their Order or Decree in such Cases or any of them 4. The Like of the Chief Governor alone 5. Whether Grants of Monopolies be warranted by the Law and of what and in what Cases and how and where and by whom are the pretended Transgressors against such Grants punishable and whether by Fine Mutilation of Members Imprisonment Loss and Forfeiture of Goods or otherwise and which of them 6. In what Cases the Lord Lieutenant Lord Deputy or other Chief Governor or Governors of this Kingdom and Council may punish by Fine Imprisonment Mutilation of Members Pillory or otherwise And whether they may Sentence any to such the same or the like punishment for infringing the Commands of or concerning any Proclamation of and concerning Monopolies and what punishment do they incur that Vote for them 7. Of what Force is an Act of State or Proclamation in this Kingdom to bind the Liberties Goods Possessions or Inheritance of the Natives thereof whether or any of them can alter the Common Law or the Infringers of them loose their Goods Chattels or Leases or forfeit the same by Infringing any such Act of State or Proclamation or both And what punishment do the sworn Judges of the Law that are Privy Councellors incur that Vote for such Act and Execution thereof 8. Are the Subjects of this Kingdom subject to the Martial Law And whether any man in time of Peace no Enemy being in the Field with Banners displayed can be Sentenced to death If so by whom and in what Cases If not What Punishments do they incur that in time of Peace execute Martial Law 9. Whether Voluntary Oaths taken freely before Arbitrators for Affirmance or Disaffirmance of any thing or for the true performance of any thing be punishable in the Castle-Chamber or any other Court and why and wherefore 10. Why and by what Law or by what Rule of Policy is it that none is admitted to Reducement of Fines or other Penalties in the Castle-Chamber or Council Table untill he confess the Offence for which he is Censured when as Revera he might be innocent thereof tho suborned Proofs or Circumstances might induce the Censure 11. Whether the Judges of the Kings-Bench or any other Judge of Gaol-Delivery or of any other Court and by what Law do or can deny Copies of Indictment of Felony or Treason to the Parties accused contrary to Law 12. What Power have the Barons of the Court of Exchequer to raise the Respite of Homage arbitrarily to what Rate they please to what Value they may raise it by what Law they may distinguish between the Respit of Homage upon the diversity of the true value of the Fees when as Escuage is the same for great and small Fees and are apportionable by Parliament 13. Whether it be Censurable in the Subjects of this Kingdom to repair into England to appeal to his Majesty for Redress of Injuries or other Lawful Occasions If so why and in what Condition of Persons and by what Law 14. Whether Deans or other Dignitaries of Cathedral Churches be properly and de Mero jure Donative by the King and not Elective or Collative If so Why and by what Law And whether the Confirmation of a Dean de Facto of the Bishops Grant be good or valid in Law or no If not by what Law 15. Whether the issuing of Quo Warranto's out of the Kings-Bench or Exchequer against Boroughs that antiently and recently sent Burgesses to the Parliament to shew Cause why they sent Burgesses to the Parliament be Legal If not what punishment ought to be inflicted upon those that are or have been the Occasioners Procurers and Judges of and in such Quo Warranto's 16. By what Law are Jurors that give Verdict according to their Conscience and are the sole Judges of the Fact Censured in the Castle-Chamber in great Fines and sometime Pillored with loss of Ears and bored through the Tongue and marked sometimes in the Forehead with an Hot Iron and other like Infamous Punishments 17. By what Law are men Censurable in the Castle-Chamber with the Mutilation of Members or any other Brand of Infamy and in what Cases and what punishment in each Case there is due without Respect to the quality of the Person or Persons 18. Whether in the Censure in the Castle-Chamber Regard be to be had to the words of the Great Charter viz. Salvo Contenemento c. 19. Whether if one that steals a Sheep or commits any other Felony and after flyeth the Course of Justice or lyeth in Woods or Mountains upon his keeping be a Traytor If not whether a Proclamation can make him so 20. Whether the Testimony or Evidence of Rebels Traytors Protected Thieves or other infamous Persons be good Evidence in Law to be pressed upon the Tryals of Men for their Lives or whether the Judge or Jurors ought to be Judge of the matter in Fact 21. By what Law are Fairs and Markets to be held in Capite when no other express Tenure is mentioned in his Majesties Letters Patents or Grants of the same Fairs and Markets Altho the Rent or Yearly Sum be reserved thereout 22. Whether it stands with the Integrity of the
Majesty's said Letters or the said Act of State and not otherwise The Commons not being satisfied with these Sober and Calm Resolutions of the Judges fell to Voting their own Sense and to make Declarations of the Law upon their former Queries as followeth Questions propounded in Parliament And Declarations of the Law thereupon in Parliament Quest 1. The Declaration of the Commons in Ireland upon the Queries propounded to the Judges WHether the Subjects of this Kingdom be a Free People and to be Governed only by the Common Laws of England and Statutes of Force in this Kingdom Declarat The Subjects of this his Majesties Kingdom of Ireland are a free People and to be Governed only according the Common Law of England and Statutes made and established by Parliament in this Kingdom of Ireland and according to the Lawful Customs used in the same 2. Quest Whether the Judges of this Land do take the Oath of Judges And if so Whether under pretext of any Act of State Proclamation Writ Letter or Direction under the Seal or Privy Seal Signet or Letter or other Commandment from the Lord Lieutenant Lord Deputy Justice Justices or other Chief Governor or Governors of this Kingdom they may hinder stay or delay the Suit of any Subject or his Judgment or Execution thereupon If so in what Cases And whether if they do hinder stay or delay such Suit or Judgment or Execution thereupon what Punishment do they incur for their deviation and transgression therein Declarat That Judges in Ireland ought to take the Oath of the Justices or Judges declared and established in several Parliaments of Force in this Kingdom and the said Judges or any of them by Color or under Pretext of any Act of State or Proclamation or under Color or Protext of any Writ Letter or Direction under the Great Seal Privy Seal or Privy Signet from the King 's Most Excellent Majesty or by Color or Pretext of any Letter or Commandment from the Chief Governor or Governors of this Kingdom ought not to hinder or delay the Suit of any Subject or his Judgment or Execution thereupon and if any Letters Writs or Commands come from his Majesty or from any other or for any other Cause to the Justices or to the other deputed to do the Law and right according to the Usage of the Realm in disturbance of the Law or of the Execution of the same or of Right to the Party the Justices and others aforesaid ought to proceed and hold their Courts and Processes where the Pleas and Matters be depending before them as if no such Letters Writs or Commandments were come to them And in case any Judge or Judges Justice or Justices be found in default therein he or they so found in default ought to incur and undergo due Punishment according to the Law and former Declarations and Provisions in Parliament in that Case made and of Force in this Kingdom or as shall be Ordered Adjudged or Declared in Parliament And the Barons of the Exchequer Justices of the Assize and Goal-delivery if they be found in default as aforesaid It is hereby declared That they ought to undergo the Punishment aforesaid 3. Quest Whether the Kings Majesties Privy Council either with the Chief Governor or Governors of this Kingdom or without him or them be a Place of Judicature by the Commons Laws and wherein Causes between Party and Party for Debts Trespasses Accompts Possessions or Title of Lands or any of them or which of them may be heard and determined and of what Civil Causes they have Jurisdiction and by what Law And of what Force is their Order or Decree in such Cases or any of them Declarat The Council Table of this Realm either with the Chief Governor or Governors or without the Chief Governor or Governors is no Judicatory wherein any Action Real Personal Popular or Mixt or any Suit in the Nature of the said Actions or any of them can or ought to be Commenced Heard or Determined and all Proceedings at the Council Table in any Suit in the nature of any of the said Actions are void especially Causes particularly provided for by express Acts of Parliament of Force in this Kingdom only excepted 4. Quest The Like of the Chief Governor alone Declarat The Proceedings before the Chief Governor or Governors alone in any Action Real Personal Popular or Mixt or in any Suit in the Nature of any of the said Actions are Coram non Judice and void 5. Quest Whether Grants of Monopolies be warranted by the Law and of what and in what Cases and how and where and by whom are the pretended Transgressors against such Grants punishable and whether by Fine Mutilation of Members Imprisonment Loss and Forfeiture of Goods or otherwise and which of them Declarat All Grants of Monopolies are contrary to the Laws of this Realm and therefore void and no Subject of the said Realm ought to be Fined Imprisoned or otherwise Punished for exercising or using the Lawful Liberty of a Subject contrary to such Grants 6. Quest In what Cases the Lord Lieutenant Lord Deputy or other Chief Governor or Governors of this Kingdom and Council may punish by Fine Imprisonment Mutilation of Members Pillory or otherwise And whether they may Sentence any to such the same or the like punishment for infringing the Commands of or concerning any Proclamation of and concerning Monopolies and what punishment do they incur that Vote for the same Declarat The Lord Lieutenant Lord Deputy or other Chief Governor or Governors and Council of this Realm or any of them ought not to imprison any of his Majesties Subjects but only in Cases where the Common Laws or Statutes of the Realm do inable and warrant them so to do and they ought not to Fine or to Consure any Subject in mutilation of Member standing on the Pillory or other shameful Punishment in any Case at the Council Table and no Subject ought to be Imprisoned Fined or otherwise Punished for Infringing any Commands or Proclamation for the support or Countenance of Monopolies and if in any Case any Person or Persons shall be committed by the Command or Warrant of the Chief Governor or Governors and Privy Council of this Realm or any of them That in every such Case every Person or Persons so Committed restrained of his or their Liberty or suffering Imprisonment upon Demand or Motion made by his or their Counsel or other imployed by him or them for that purpose unto the Judges of the Court of Kings-Bench or Common-Pleas in open Court shall without delay upon any Pretence whatsoever for the ordinary Fees usually paid for the same have forthwith granted unto him or them a Writ or Writs of Habeas Corpus to be directed generally unto all and every Sheriff Goaler Minister Officer or other Person in whose Custody the Party or Parties so Committed or Restrained shall be shall at the Return of the said Writ or Writs and
Declarat Deanries and other Ecclesiastical Dignities of this Realm are not de Mero Jure donative but some are Donative and some Elective and some are Collative according to their respective Foundations and the Confirmation of the Bishops Grant by a Dean de Facto having actually stallum in Choro et vocem in Capitulo together with the Chapter is good in Law 15. Quest Whether the issuing of Quo Warranto's out of the Kings-Bench or Exchequer against Boroughs that antiently and recently sent Burgesses to the Parliament to shew Cause why they sent Burgesses to the Parliament be Legal If not what punishment ought to be inflicted upon those that are or have been the Occasioners Procurers and Judges of and in such Quo Warranto's Declarat The Issuing of Quo Warranto's out of the Court of Kings-Bench Court of Exchequer or any Court against Boroughs that anciently or recently sent Burgesses to the Parliament to shew Cause why they sent Burgesses to Parliament and all the Proceedings thereupon are Coram non Judice Illegal and void and the Right of sending Burgesses to the Parliament is Questionable in Parliament only and the Occasioners Procurers and Judges in such Quo Warranto's and Proceedings are Punishable as in Parliament shall be thought consonant to Law and Justice 16. Quest By what Law are Jurors that give Verdict according to their Conscience and are the sole Judges of the Fact Censured in the Castle-Chamber in great Fines and sometimes Pillored with loss of Ears and bored through the Tongue and marked sometimes in the Forehead with an Hot Iron and other like Infamous Punishment Declarat Jurors are the sole Judges of the Matter in Fact and they ought not for giving their Verdict to be bound over to the Court of Castle-Chamber by the Judge or Judges before whom the Verdict was or shall be given 17. Quest By what Law are men Censurable in the Castle-Chamber with the Matilation of Members or any other Brand of Infamy and in what Cases and what punishment in each Case there is due without Respect to the Quality of the Person or Persons Declarat No Man ought to be Censured in the Castle-Chamber in the Mutilation of Members or any other Brand of Infamy otherwise or in other Cases then is expresly Limited by the Statutes of the Realm in such Case provided 18. Quest Whether in the Censure in the Castle-Chamber Regard be to be had to the words of the Great Charter viz. Salvo Contenemento c. Declarat In the Censures in the Castle-Chamber especial Regard ought to be had to the Words of the Great Charter viz. Salvo Contenemento c. 19. Quest Whether if one that steals a Sheep or commits any other Felony and after flyeth the Course of Justice or lyeth in Woods or Mountains upon his keeping be a Traytor If not whether a Proclamation can make him so Declarat A Felon who Flies the Course of Justice and lyeth in Woods Mountains or elsewhere upon his keeping is no Traitor and a Proclamation cannot make him a Traitor 20. Quest Whether the Testimony or Evidence of Rebels Traytors Protected Thieves or other infamous Persons be good Evidence in Law to be pressed upon the Tryals of Men for their Lives or whether the Judge or Jurors ought to be Judge of the matter Declarat The Testimony of Convicted or Protected Rebels Traitors or Felons is no sufficient Evidence in Law upon the Tryal of any Person for his Life and the Credit of the Testimony of Persons Accused or Impeached and not convicted of Felony or Treason ought to be left to the Jury who are sole Judges of the Truth and Validity of the said Testimony 21. Quest By what Law are Fairs and Markets to be held in Capite when no other express Tenure is mentioned in his Majesties Letters Patents or Grants of the same Fairs and Markets Altho the Rent or Tearly Sum be reserved thereout Declarat The King grants Lands to be held in Free and common Socage as of a Castle or Mannor by Letters Patents under the Great Seal and by the same Letters Patents or by other Letters Patents Grants a Fair and Market reserving a yearly Rent or Summ without expressing any Tenure as to the said Fair or Market the said Fair or Market is not held by Knights Service in Capite or otherwise in Capite I cannot omit one remarkable passage which I find mentioned in Dr. Borlase's Hist of Ireland p. 12. Borlase's History which seems plainly to evince that during this time when they appeared so Zealous for the Redressing of Publick Grievances and removing the obstructions of Justice therein following the very same steps with the Faction of the Parliament of England and Scotland they were at the same time complotting to shake off the Soveraignty of His Majesty by an open Rebellion as the Scots had done in Effect and the English Parliamentary Faction presently after did Which may teach Posterity hereafter to be very Cautious of such pretences and pretenders who through the sides of the prime Ministers of State endeavour to wound Majesty it self and to cover the Designs of Teason and Rebellion with the Popular Cloak of Reformation which were the very steps by which these Three Rebellions one upon the neck of another advanced themselves within the compass of little less then three Years The passage was this During the Summer Sessions which began the 11th of May 1641. Some of the chief Conspirators and among whom the Lord Macguire was one the most busie pretending a suspition That some of the Servants of the late Earl of Strafford to revenge his death to which it seems by this their own guilt acknowledged the Irish very instrumental intended some mischief to the Parliament moved the House and accordingly had Orders that the Lords Justices would let His Majesties Stores for Powder and Arms be searched lest any should be placed near the Parliament Houses which being granted and a diligent search being made but nothing found yet were they not satisfied but procured a new Order to the Lords Justices to be admitted to see the Stores of Powder and Arms placed in other Rooms in and about the Castle To whom the Lord Justice Borlase answered That those were the King 's precious Jewels and not to be shewed without especial Cause but withal assuring them upon his Honor that there was no Powder underneath either of the Houses of Parliament with which answer they were not more discontented then his Lordship seemed surprised with this repeated Order which raised such a sudden Emotion in his blood that he could not but often after reflect upon the reiterated importunity of the enquiry as aiming at something further then was at present discernable Which plainly appears to be to get a perfect knowledge both of the quantity of the martial Stores and the certain place where they were deposited that thereby their intended surprisal of them might be with more ease effected To Sum up what hath
before been said concerning the beginning of this Execrable and Unparallel'd Rebellion take the Words of an * Excellent and Noble Author upon that Subject THe Irish Nation A M. S. S. in the custody of his Grace the Duke of Ormond written by the Right Honourable the Earl of Clarendon saith he was possessed of the most blessed and happy Condition before their own to say no worse unskilful Rage and Fury brought this War upon them and they have since had leisure enough thoroughly to consider and value the wonderful Plenty Peace and security which they enjoyed till the year 1641 when they wantonly and disdainfully flung those Blessings from them They were arrived to a mighty increase of Traffick Improvement of Land Erection of Buildings and whatever else might be profitable or pleasant to any People and these desirable Advantages and Ornaments the Policy and Industry of that Nation was utterly unacquainted with till they were brought to them by the skill and labour of the English planting and living Charitably Friendly and Hospitably among them Taxes and Tillages and other Contributions were things hardly known to them so much as by their Names whatever their Lands Labour or Industry produced was their own and they were not only free from the fear of having it taken from them by the King upon any pretence whatsoever without their own consents but also so secured against Thieves and Robbers by the Execution of good Laws that Men might and did Travel over all Parts of the Kingdom with considerable Sums of Money unguarded and unconcealed If this happy posture of Affairs It were well if our English Non-conformists would look in this Glass they would see their own pourtaict exactly and may by timely consideration avoid the same destiny was undervalued under the Notion of being but Temporal Blessings and the want of Freedom be alledged as to the Exercise of the Romish Religion to which that Nation was generally addicted it cannot be denied but that though by the Laws and Constitutions of that Kingdom the Power and Authority of the Bishop of Rome is not in any degree allowed or submitted to by the Government yet by connivance the whole Catholique Body of that Nation enjoyed an undisturbed Exercise of that Religion and even at Dublin where the Seat of the King 's chief Governour was such was the indulgence of Authority then towards them that they went as uninterruptedly to their Devotions as the Governor did to his Bishops Priests and all Degrees and Orders of the Secular and Regular Clergy lived and exercised their Functions among them And though there were some Laws against them still in force which the Necessity and Wisdom of former Ages had caused to be Enacted to suppress those acts of Treason and Rebellion which that People frequently fell into and the Policy of the present Times kept unrepealed to prevent the like Distempers and Designs yet the Edge of those Laws was so totally rebated by the Clemency and Compassion of the King that no Man could say he had suffered prejudice or disturbance in or for his Religion which is another kind of indulgence then the Subjects professing a faith contrary to that which is Established by the Laws of the Land can boast of in any other Kingdom in the World When in the Year 1640 they discerned some Distempers arising in England upon the Scots Invasion and perceived the Support and Countenance that People then found in both Houses of Parliament in England they would likewise bear a part and bring in their Contribution to the work in hand then they began to Transplant those dangerous humors of Jealousies and Discontents which they found springing up Seditiously in the Parliament at Westminster into Ireland and with the same Passion and Distemper cherished them in the Parliament at Dublin They fell to Accusing upon general and unreasonable Imputations the principal Councellors and Ministers of State who were intrusted by the Crown in that Kingdom impeaching them of High Treason and thereby according to the Rule unjustly then prescribed at Westminster they removed those Persons from any Power in Publick Affairs there whose wisdom might probably otherwise have prevented the mischiefs which have since ensued Then did they most weakly and childishly concur with the greatest Enemies their Nation or Religion had in the Conspiracy against the life of the Earl of Strafford Lord Lieutenant of that Kingdom by whose Wisdom and most prudent Government that Nation had reaped great advantages and was daily receiving greater and sent a Committee from Dublin to Westminster to join in the Prosecution of him and having in the end procured the miserable and never enough lamented Ruin of that great Person they powerfully opposed and hindred the conferring of that charge upon any of those His Majesty had designed to undertake it and at the last by their repeated importunities they got it devolved into such hands as were most unlike to grapple with the difficulties which they were sure to meet with and having thus to their uttermost power fomented the divisions in England and discountenanced and weakened the Regal Power in Ireland by raising the same Factions against it there on the sudden upon the 23d day of October 1641 without the least pretence of Quarrel or Hostility so much as apprehended by the Protestants great multitudes of Irish Roman Catholicks in the Province of Vlster and shortly after in other Provinces and parts of the Kingdom Tumultuously assembled together put themselves in Arms seised upon the Forts Castles Towns and Houses belonging to the Protestants which by their force they could possess themselves of and with most Barbarous Circumstances of Cruelty within the space of a few days murthered an incredible number of Protestants Men Women and Children promiscuously and without distinction of Age or Sex and of all those who were within the reach of their Power they who escaped best were robbed of all that they had to their very skins and so turned naked to indure the sharpness of that Season and by that means and for want of Relief many thousands of them perished by hunger and cold the Design which was at the same time laid for the surprise of the Castle of Dublin the Residence of the King 's chief Governors and His Majesties principal Magazine of Arms and Ammunition wherewith it was then plentifully stored being discovered by a person trusted and thereby disappointed that place was left singly to consult of the best means to oppose the Torrent which was like to overwhelm the whole Kingdom and for a Refuge to the poor Protestants who from all parts of the Kingdom flocked thither Despoiled Robbed and Stripped with the sad Relations of the most inhumane Cruelties and Murthers exercised upon their Friends Kindred and Neighbours which have been ever heard of amongst Christians It is not All the Irish not Guilty of the Rebellion adds he the purpose of this Discourse to lay any imputations of this Rebellion and
in England shall be dissolved Concerning the sending of the Capuchins out of the Kingdom The Votes of the Lords upon these Eight Propositions this House will suspend giving any Resolution therein until a List of the Queens Priests and Servants is brought in Resolved upon the Question That the Ambassadors be desired from the Parliament to dismiss out of their Houses such Priests as are the Kings Native born Subjects and in case they shall hereafter be found abroad they shall not have any protection but be proceeded in according to the Laws of this Kingdom Resolved c. That the Lord Chamberlain of the Queen shall bring in a List of the Queens Priests and Servants and the Lord Chamberlain of his Majesties Houshold shall bring in a List of the Names of the Servants belonging to the King Prince and the rest of the King's Children 4. To the Fourth It is Ordered That this House agrees to this Resolution but do refer the manner of issuing out the Proclamation until the Commission given to the Lords of the Councel for issuing out Proclamations be perused 6. Concerning the sequestring of the Isle of Wight into another Hand this House thought fit to return this Answer to the House of Commons That in regard they have offered no Reasons for the same their Lordships know not how to give an Answer But when they shall shew their Lordships Reasons for so doing they will take the business into Consideration 7. Concerning the securing the persons of Recusants It is Ordered To be debated on Monday Morning next 8. Concerning the Earl of Essex 's having Power over the Trained Bands this House defers their Resolutions concerning it until the Commission of the Earl of Essex for Captain General of the South be brought into this House and perused which is to be done on Munday next In the Commons House It was Ordered Connelly Ordered to have 500 l. paid presently That whereas Owen O Connelly who discovered the Treason in Ireland had 500 l. appointed him in part of Recompence that Sir Robert Pye and Mr. Wheeler the Treasurers for the Poll-money of Westminster do forthwith pay unto the said Connelly the said 500 l. The greatest part of the Morning was spent in preparing the Heads for the fore-mentioned Conference with the Lords But among all these great Affairs which were before them the Faction in the House was still at Leisure to fall upon the Loyal and Orthodox Clergy against whom they had a most irreconcileable Animosity For upon a Complaint and Information given in to the House by some of the Zealots without Doors who made it a great part of their Religion to Inform and Article against the Loyal and Orthodox Clergy It was this day Ordered That Dr. Fuller Dr. Fuller Dean of Ely sent for as a Delinquent for his Sermons Dean of Ely shall be sent for as a Delinquent for divers dangerous and scandalous matters delivered by him in several Sermons Thus did these persons who would not permit the Clergy to intermeddle in Secular Affairs boldly thrust their Sickle into the harvest of Spiritual Matters though by the Confession of One of their own Members in a Speech he saith he intended to have spoken as this day to arraign the Order of the 8th of September they were not Idonei Competentes Judices This day it seems was fixed for the Debating the Validity of that Order but by the intervening of other business it was put off and so lay sine die however I think it is not fit to let the Speech sleep so too which it may be was the best that Unfortunate Gentleman ever made or intended to speak in that place where swimming down the rapid Torrent of General Accusations of Fears and Jealousies he so far lost himself that when he would have done something to the stopping the Breaches in the Banks of the Government which he had helped to cut he found it as many others did out of his power to Effect and was himself in danger of being presently drowned in the Deluge which he had helped to raise with the Wind of Popular breath The Speech as I find it in his own Collections pag. 37. was in these Words Master Speaker ME thinks A Speech of Sir Edward Deering's about the Order of the Commons of Sept. 8. 1641. I am now going to Walk upon the Ridge of a House a dangerous Praecipice on either Hand On the one side I must take heed that I speak neither more nor less than the inward Dictate of my own Conscience on the other Hand I shall be afraid to presume above your better Judgments My Path is narrow I must look to my Footing Dixi custodiam vias meas c. I said I will look to my Waies that I Offend not in my Tongue Thus I preface because I foreknow that I shall speak to the dislike of some Worthy Members of this Honorable House Sir Two Questions are before us First in General how far an Order of this House is binding de foris not upon our own Members here but upon the People the King's Subjects abroad Secondly the Validity and Invalidity of your particular Order of the Eighth and Declaration of the ninth of September last For the First I am clear in this Opinion That we may enforce any thing that is undoubtedly grounded upon the Law of the Land Shew me that Foundation and I will concur with you in any Resolution We may also declare against any Thing that is introduced contrary to our Laws Farther than this I know no Way unless it be by Bill and then I know no Limitation no bound Thus in brief for the General I come now to your particular Order Master Speaker I shall be afraid to arraign your Orders I have already been Controlled not for doing so but as if I had done so yet Sir I have often heard it in this House that We are Masters of our own Orders and then I think we may in this Place arraign them that is Question them Try them Approve Alter Reject or Condemn them Was not our Protestation more sacred than an Order yet that was revised and to stop some Objections new Senced by us And I take it lawful in this Place to arraign if that be the Word even an Act of Parliament and then a fortiori an Order of this House Surely Sir I shall speak reverently of all your Orders when I am abroad I have done so of this I am resolved that my Obedience shall therein be found good although my particular Reason be rebellant to your Conclusions This is my Duty abroad but here in this House within these Walls freedome is my Inheritance and give me lieve I pray at this time to use a part of my Birth-right The Seasonableness and the Equity of your Order both are controverted You all know that this is a dangerous time to make any determinations in Matter of Religion whether it be in the
the Earl of Leicester Lord Lieutenant of Ireland making some scruple of raising Men to be imployed in the busness of Ireland without the King's Commission and his Lordship desiring to have the Authority of the Parliament for the same in the mean time It is thought fit and so Ordered by the Lords in Parliament according to the Power given unto them by His Majesty mentioned in an Order dated the sixth of November 1641. That the said Lord Lieutenant shall have full power by virtue of this Order to Levy Men according to the Order given him from the Parliament in the interim until His Majesty shall grant him a Commission under the Great Seal of England for his Warrant for so doing The House of Commons did also take notice of the Doubt of the Earl but notwithstanding did resolve and think fit that he should proceed to raise men for the Service by Virtue of the Ordinance of Parliament It was also Ordered by the Lords and Commons A Council of War for the Affairs of Ireland That the Lord Viscount Wilmot Sir John Conyers Sir Jacob Ashly Sir Simon Harcourt Sir John Heyden Sir Foulk Hunks Sir Thomas Glemham Sir Robert King Colonel Culpeper Colonel Vavasor Lieutenant Colonel Ballard and Captain Skippon shall be Assistants as a Council of War to the Committees of both Houses of Parliament appointed for the Affairs of Ireland and have full Power by virtue of this Order to meet and consider of the present state and condition of the said Kingdom and also of an Establishment for the Army Lords agree with the Commons to put the Laws against the Papists in Execution speedily The Lords then entred upon the Consideration of the Proposition sent from the Commons concerning securing the Persons of Popish Recusants and after a long Debate the Result was this That whereas the House of Commons desired that the persons of the Romish Recusants for the safety of the Kingdom might be secured this House doth consent with them therein and Orders That the Laws of this Kingdom shall be put into Execution against them presently Upon the desire of the Commons by Mr. Pym Letters from France and Antworp stopped it was Ordered by the Lords That the Foreign Letters from France and Antwerp be stopped and perused by the Lords Committees for opening Letters there being as Mr. Pym said ground and intelligence that those Letters will discover some Root of the Rebellion in Ireland The Declaration of the State of the Kingdom was also this day read and it was moved that a Consideration of these particulars might be added and which is very uncommon I find in the Margin of the Journal the Names of the Persons which made the several Motions which in regard it is to be supposed they did it in futuram rei Memoriam that Posterity might not hereafter be to seek for their Names I will take care to transmit them down to future Ages but whether they will have Statutes Erected for the Achievement I cannot promise unless it be of Infamy Moved That the last Expedition into Germany J. C. but whether Corbet or Clotworthy I cannot tell The Loans upon Privy Seals The Commission of Excise might be added The Additional Explanation to the Petition of Right Palmer I suppose The Declaration set forth upon the Breach of both Parliaments Strode The Proclamation set forth Wingate forbidding People so much as to talk of a Parliament Gun-Powder Monopoly J. C. as it was a Project for the disarming of the Kingdom The destruction of Timber Wildt especially in the Forrest of Dean by Recusants The Entituling the King to the Lands between High-Water J. C. and Low-Water mark The abuses of Purveyors and Salt-Petre men Whitlock The Commission of Sewers to be further Explained Cromwel The Court of Wards Smyth The Jurisdiction of the Council of the Marches The Council Table as they take Cognizance of Me Te. The Buying and Selling of Honours and Dignities The further Debate ordered to be resumed to Morrow The Lord Keeper Reported the Conference with the Commons Yesterday That Mr. Pym delivered by Command divers Heads agreed upon by the Commons Wednesday Novem. 10. which are Instructions to be sent to the Commissioners of both Houses now attending his Majesty in Scotland which they desire their Lordships to joyn with them in The Instructions were read in haec verba 1. YOu shall humbly inform his Majesty Instructions to the Commissioners in Scotland Nov. 10th 1641. That the Propositions made to the Parliament of Scotland concerning their Assistance for suppressing the Rebellion in Ireland hath been fully considered and debated by both Houses of Parliament here and their Wise and Brotherly Expressions and Proceedings are apprehended and Entertained here by us not only with Approbation but with Thankfulness Wherefore we desire that his Majesty will be pleased That You in the Name of the Lords and Commons of England give publick Thanks to the States of the Parliament of Scotland for their Care and Readiness to imploy the Forces of that Kingdom for the reducing the Rebellious Subjects of Ireland to their due Obedience to his Majesty and the Crown of England 2. You shall further make known to his Majesty That in the great and almost Vniversal Revolt of the Natives of Ireland cherished and fomented as we have Cause to doubt by the Secret Practices and Encouragements of some Forreign States ill-affected to the Crown and that the Northern Parts of that Kingdom may with much more Ease and Speed be supplied from Scotland than from England We humbly desire and beseech his Majesty to make Vse of the Assistance of his Parliament and Subjects of Scotland for the present Relief of those Parts of Ireland which lie nearest to them according to the Treaty agreed upon and confirmed in both Parliaments and this Affectionate und Friendly Disposition now lately Expressed as is more particularly specified in the 5th Article 3. You shall present to His Majesty the Copy Enclosed of the Declaration which We have sent into Ireland for the Encouragement of his good Subjects there and for the more speedy and Effectual opposing of the Rebels and in Execution and performance of our Expressions therein made of Zeal and Faithfulness to his Majesties Service We have already taken Care for 50000 l. to be presently Borrowed and Secured by Parliament We have likewise resolved to hasten the Earl of Leicester Lord Lieutenant of Ireland very speedily to repair thither and forthwith to raise a Convenient number of Horse and Foot for securing Dublin and the English Pale with such other Parts as remain in his Majesties subjection intending to second them with a far greater Supply 4. We have further Ordered and Directed That his Majesties Arms and Munition lying in the City of Carlisle shall be Transported into the North Parts of Ireland for the supply of Carrick-fergus and other his Majesties Forts and
have been taken by them and do still remain in miserable slavery The enlargement of Forrests contrary to Charta de Foresta and the composition thereupon The exactions of Coat and Conduct Money and divers other Military Charges The taking away the Arms of the Trained-Bands of divers Counties The desperate Design of engrossing all the Gun-Powder into one hand keeping it in the Tower of London and setting so high a Rate upon it that the Poorer sort were not able to buy it nor could any have it without Licence thereby to leave the several parts of the Kingdom destitute of their necessary defence and by selling so dear that which was sold to make an unlawful advantage of it to the great Charge and detriment of the Subject the general destruction of the Kings Timber especially that in the Forrest of Dean sold to Papists which was the best Store-house of this Kingdom for the maintenance of our Shipping the taking away of mens right under colour of the Kings Title to Land between high and low Water-Marks The Monopolies of Soap Salt Wine Leather Sea-Cole and in a manner of all things of most common and necessary use The restraint of the Liberties of the Subjects in their habitation Trades and other Interest Their vexation and oppression by Purveyors Clerks of the Market and Salt-Peter-men The sale of pretended Nusances as Buildings in and about London conversion of Arable into Pasture continuance of Pasture under the name of depopulation have drawn many Millions out of the Subjects Purses without any considerable profit to his Majesty Large quantities of Common and several Grounds have been taken from the Subject by colour of the Statute of Improvement and by abuse of the Commission of Sewers without their consent and against it And not only private Interest but also publick faith hath been broken in seizing of the Money and Bullion in the Mint and the whole Kingdom like to be robb'd at once in that abominable project of Brass-Money Great numbers of his Majesties Subjects for refusing those unlawful charges have been vext with long and expensive Suits some fined and censured others committed to long and hard imprisonments and confinements to the loss of health of many of life in some and others have had their houses broken up their goods Seized some have been restrained from their lawful Callings Ships have been interrupted in their Voyages surprized at Sea in an Hostile manner by Projectors as by a common Enemy Merchants prohibited to unlade their Goods in such Ports as were for their own advantage and forced to bring them to those places which were most for the advantages of the Monopolizers and Projectors The Court of Star-Chamber hath abounded in extravagant censures not only for the maintenance and improvement of Monopolies and other unlawful Taxes but for divers other Causes where there hath been no offence or very small whereby his Majesties Subjects have been oppressed by grievous Fines Imprisonments Stigmatizings Mutilations Whippings Pillories Gags Confinements Banishments after so rigid a manner as hath not only deprived Men of the Society of their friends exercise of their professions comfort of Books use of Paper or Ink but even violated that near Union which God hath Establisht betwixt Men and their Wives by forced and constrained separation whereby they have been bereaved of the comfort and conversation one of another for many years together without hope of relief if God had not by his over-ruling Providence given some interruption to the prevailing Power and Council of those who were the Authors and Promoters of such peremptory and heady courses Judges have been put out of their places for refusing to do against their Oaths and Consciences others have been so awed that they durst not do their duties and the better to hold a Rod over them the Clause quam diu se bene gesserit was left out of their Patents and a new Clause Durante bene placito inserted Lawyers have been checkt for being faithful to their Clients Solicitors and Attorneys have been threatned and some punished for following lawful Suits And by this means all the approaches to Justice were interrupted and forecluded New Oaths have been forced upon the Subject against Law new Judicatories Erected without Law The Council-Table have by their Orders offered to bind the Subjects in their Free-holds Estates Suits and Actions The pretended Court of the Earl-Marshal was Arbitrary and Illegal in its being and Proceedings The Chancery Exchequer-Chamber Court of Wards and other English Courts have been grievous exceeding in their Jurisdiction The Estate of many Families weakned and some ruined by excessive Fines exacted from them for compositions of Wardships All Leases of above a hundred years made to draw on Wardship contrary to Law Undue proceedings used in the finding of Offices to make the Jury find for the King the Common-Law Courts seeing all men more enclined to seek Justice there where it may be fitted to their own desire are known frequently to forsake the Rules of the Common-Law and straining beyond their bounds under pretence of equity to do Injustice Titles of Honour Judicial places Serjeantships at Law and other Offices have been sold for great Sums of Money whereby the common Justice of the Kingdom hath been much endangered not only by opening a way of employment in places of great trust and advantage to Men of weak parts but also by giving occasion to Bribery Extortion Partiality It seldom hapning that places ill-gotten are well used Commissions have been granted for Examining the excess of Fees and when great exactions have been discovered Compositions have been made with Delinquents not only for the time past but likewise for immunity and security in offending for the time to come which under colour of remedy hath but confirmed and encreased the Grievance to the Subject The usual course of pricking Sheriffs not observed but many times Sheriffs made in an extraordinary way some times as a punishment and charge unto them sometimes such were pricked out as would be Instruments to execute whatsoever they would have to be done The Bishops and the rest of the Clergy did triumph in the suspensions Excommunications Deprivations and Degradations of divers Painful Learned and Pious Ministers in the vexation and grievous oppression of great numbers of his Majesties good Subjects The High Commission grew to such excess of sharpness and severity as was not much less then the Romish Inquisition and yet in many Cases by the Archbishops power was made much more heavy being assisted and strengthned by Authority of the Council-Table The Bishops and their Courts were as eager in the Country and although their Jurisdiction could not reach so high in rigour and extremity of punishment yet were they no less grievous in respect of the generality and multiplicity of vexations which lightning upon the meaner sort of Trades-men and Artificers did impoverish many thousands and so afflict and trouble others that great numbers to avoid their miseries departed
Consideration of the House by which means I may hope of some satisfaction but this is totally left to your Honor's Consideration as opportunity offers and your Honor thinks fit in your own Judgment Thus humbly Craving pardon for this great Presumption I can safely say no man lives that is more Your Honors most humble Servant William Lenthall The Lord Keeper being indisposed Saturday Decemb. 1. craved leave of the House to retire for some time for the Recovery of his health which being granted this day the Lord Chief Justice of the Common-Pleas by the Command of the House sate as Speaker the Lord Privy Seal having performed the Office for some part of the day preceding And little of moment passed this day more then that the Lord Chamberlain was appointed to move his Majesty to Command the Sheriffs of the several Counties through which the Arms and Munition were to pass to Chester to take Care of the Safe Guarding of them In the Commons House Mr. Chillingworth sent to the Tower for words spoken in the House Chillingworth a Member was sent to the Tower for speaking some words which gave offence to the House by declaring his judgment in offering at his Instances concerning deposing of Princes It was too early day yet to broach these Doctrines and the Gentleman was to be made an Example for this rash Intemperance of his Tongue and certainly the Faction could not if it had been a forelaid occasion have done themselves a more Serviceable and Popular kindness for this was to let the whole Nation know that they had such a tenderness of Loyalty and Duty for the King that their chast Ears could not indure the ingrateful sound of Deposing Kings though in Instances of the remotest distance and then the natural Consequence of this must be That they who had such aversions and abhorrency to Treasonous Positions and Presidents at such a Distance could have no evil Intentions against their King though they asked of him to divest himself of the Power of the Sword and other Royal Prerogatives and in effect all that made him an Actual or more then a Titular King Mr. Daniel O Neal was this day again Examined concerning the Plot of bringing up the Army against the Parliament The consideration of the Tumults was this day also put off again Little was done this day in the House of Lords Monday Decemb. 6. more then reading of the Bill for Captives taken by Turkish Pyrats and the Bill for Raising Men for the defence of England and Ireland which received many alterations and amendments which were to be delivered to the Commons at a Conference In the Commons House Mr. Glyn Reported from the Committee the Reasons to be offered to the Lords for admitting this House to bring their proof against the 13 Bishops formerly Impeached That the Committee conceive this Course to be most fit to be held in the management of this Conference The Reasons of the Commons to come to a hearing against the Bishops notwithstanding their Demurrer to make a Narration of the Proceedings since the first Impeachment and of the Votes of both Houses concerning the Canons First That it is Voted by both Houses That the Canons c. made by the late Convocation do contain in them matters contrary to the King's Prerogative to the Fundamental Laws of the Land against the Liberty of the Subject the Property of their Estate and tending to Sedition and of dangerous Consequence That these Canons being thus Voted by both Houses of Parliament and to bring the Principal of the Persons in the making of those Canons to Judgment according to their demerit The House of Commons did the 4th of August last by word of Mouth Impeach at the Bar of the House of Lords these 13 Bishops by name and then desired That they might be put to Answer in the presence of the Commons That because some Objections were made That that Impeachment was too general the House of Commons did the 13th of the same Month Impeach the said Bishops at the Bar of the Lords House and this Impeachment to be read at the Conference which did declare That All and every the said Canons c. were and are contrary to the King's Prerogative and the Fundamental Laws of the Land c. And were so contrived made and promulged by them c. And that therefore they might be put to Answer in the presence of the Commons That in both these Charges the Commons did desire that the 13 Bishops might be put to Answer in the presence of the Commons That afterwards the Bishops had several days given them to Answer and at last the 10th of November last was appointed peremptorily unto them to Answer That when the 10th of November came these Bishops put in a Writing which they call A Plea and Demurrer which Writing the Lords sent down to the House of Commons upon notice of which Writing which they term A Plea and Demurrer wherein they neither confess nor deny the Fact this House did desire the Lords to appoint a Day when they might come and make good their Charge against them That the Lords sent a Message to this House that they had Ordered to Morrow to hear the Council of the Bishops upon their Plea and Demurrer and that such Members of this House as the House shall think fitting may be there present This for the matter of the Narration That upon this the Committee have drawn these Conclusions That it appeareth by the Message from the Lords they were Impeached 4to Augusti and that divers days were given them to Answer and peremptorily the 10th of November 1641. That they made no Answer but put in a Plea and Demurrer as they call it And that therefore their Demurrer ought not to be admitted because their Defence ought not to be made to the Impeachment of the House of Commons but in their presence and that the Commons ought to be thereunto called And that in all Courts of Justice it is so that the Party concerned ought to be called to all Answers Pleas and Demurrers for otherwise mistakes might arise which by being present might be rectified as in this Case for if the Commons had been present when the Bishops made their Answer there would not have been that mistake for that upon search it appears in the Lords Book that the second Impeachment whereby all Arguments of incertainty were taken away and which supplied any defects in the first as in this particular All and Every the said Canons were so Expressed in the second Charge and yet not so entred in the Lords Book of Journals which would have been rectified if the Commons had been present at their Answer So in regard of this inconveniency the Commons ought to have been admitted to be there present Next that the Charge consisting of meer matter of Fact not done above a year before they ought to be called to Answer to the matter of Fact and
not to tender a thing called a Plea and Demurrer As also that the Commons conceive they ought to have been called in this Case for that they have desired it in both their Charges to be present at their Answer and that it was their Right to have been called Further They observe the long delay to the Commons for that they having charged these 13 Bishops long since for meer matter of Fact to be brought so late to Answer may introduce great inconveniencies in this particular and in the Consequences and is not Exampled by former Precedents That therefore upon these Grounds the Commons desire the Lords they may be admitted to make good their proof against these 13 Bishops and that they may be brought to Judgment It was this day Ordered by the Lords Tuesday Decemb. 7. Some Causes in Parliament determinable in no other Court That Forasmuch as the Cause between Smith and Busby in a Writ of Error decidable in no other Court but in Parliament in regard the Suit was Commenced by Original Writ and depending long before the Lords here it having been sundry days attended for Argument with Counsel And being it is a matter in Law the presence of the Judges is thought needful and so cannot be heard in the Term without prejudice to the several Courts of Westminster-Hall It is therefore Ordered by this House That the said Case shall be argued at this Bar on Thursday Sevennight next being the 16th of this Instant December and the Judges are desired to be present at the said Argument And further That the Parties of either side or their Council are to attend and come prepared for arguing and debating the Points in the said Case at their perils The following Commission to give Power to the English Commissioners of both Houses to Treat with the Scots Commissioners touching the Affairs of Ireland was read viz. CHARLES by the Grace of God The King's Commission to several Lords and Commons to treat with the Scots Commissioners concerning assistance for Ireland c. To Our right Trusty and right Well-beloved Cousin William Earl of Bedford and to Our right Trusty and right Well-beloved Cousin and Councellor Robert Earl of Leicester Lieutenant General and Governor General of Our Realm of Ireland as also to Our Trusty and right Well-beloved Edward Lord Howard of Escrick and likewise to Our Trusty and right Well-beloved Nathanael Fines Esq Sir William Armyn Baronet Sir Philip Stapleton Knight John Hampden Esq Greeting Know ye That We reposing assured Trust and Confidence in your approved Wisdoms Fidelities and great Abilities have Nominated Constituted and Appointed you to be our Commissioners and by these presents do give full Power and Authority unto you or any Three or more of you whereof the said Earl of Bedford Earl of Leicester or Lord Howard to be one to Treat and Consult with Our Right Trusty and Right Well beloved Cosins William Earl of Lothian and John Earl of Lindsay Our Commissioners of Our Scottish Nation of and concerning Our Irish Affairs for the quieting and suppressing of all Tumults Insurrections and Rebellions moved and raised in Our Realm of Ireland and settling Peace and Tranquillity therein according to such Instructions and Directions as you shall hereafter from time to time receive from Vs in that behalf Wherefore We Will Require and Command you or any three or more of you whereof the said Earl of Bedford Earl of Leicester and Lord Howard to be one forthwith with all diligence to attend the Execution of this Our Commission accordingly And whatsoever you shall do in this behalf according to the Tenor hereof this Our Commission shall be your sufficient Warrant and Discharge for the same Witness Our Self at Westminster the 7th day of December in the 17th Year of Our Reign c. The late Bishop of Lincoln now Archbishop of York Late Bishop of Lincoln now Archbishop of York Reports the Conference concerning the Bishops Impeached Reported the Conference with the Commons Yesterday concerning the Impeached Bishops which because it differs from the Heads Reported for that purpose by Mr. Glyn in the Commons Journal I thought it not amiss to insert His Grace Reported That Mr. Glyn said That the Knights Citizens and Burgesses of the House of Commons having lately received a Message from their Lordships that their Lordships had appointed this day to hear the Plea and Demurrer of the Bishops and that such of the House of Commons might be there as they thought fitting commanded him to deliver unto their Lordships these Particulars That the Canons and Constitutions in Question were voted by both Houses to contain Matters contrary to the King's Prerogative the Laws of the Land the Right of Parliament the Propriety and Liberty of the Subject and many matters tending to Sedition and of dangerous Consequence That thereupon the House of Commons to the intent to bring this Matter to Judgment brought up their Impeachment of the 13 Bishops 4th Augusti last which was read verbatim This was all that was acted 4o. Augusti But least this Impeachment might prove too general they brought up a second Charge or Impeachment 13 Augusti which was read in haec verba Whereas the Knights Citizens c. which to avoid Tautologies the Reader may see before in the Transactions of the 13 August By the bringing of this second Impeachment the House of Commons conceive they had satisfied two main Objections 1. That the Book of Canons and Constitutions was not particularly instanced upon in the first which now they punctually deliver with the Impeachment 2. That they had not before charged any thing in particular but now they did That all and every the said Canons and Constitutions and Grants of Benevolence c. were and are contrary c. as in the Vote And hereupon they desired the 13 Bishops might be put to their Answers and yet for all this Desire of the Commons 13. Augusti they had several times which spent almost a Quarter of a Year given them to answer in Their last and peremptory day was the 10th of November last and then they put in no Answer at all but a certain Writing which they are pleased to call a Plea and Demurrer Vpon notice hereof the House of Commons returned an Answer That whereas they had impeached 13 Bishops whereof one of them had pleaded Not Guilty and the rest had neither confessed nor denyed the Impeachment they desired a prefixed day to descend to Proofs and make good the Charge Soon after they received a Message from their Lordships That their Lordships had appointed this day to hear the Demurrer argued Hence it appears That notwithstanding divers daies are given to the Bishops to answer nothing is brought in but a Plea and Demurrer which was not to be admitted for two several Reasons 1. No Defence ought to be made to an Impeachment brought in by the Commons but in the presence of the Commons and it ought to be
to hear them they were called in and Mr. Speaker acquainted them That the House was pleased to give them leave to speak what they had to say Whereupon one of them in the name of the rest desired to know Whether they might get more hands to the same Petition Then they were commanded again to withdraw and after a little time being called in Mr. Speaker told them That the House did believe what was delivered in their Petition already but that notwithstanding they were left at liberty to get more hands if they pleased After which having returned humble Thanks to the House for their good acceptance of their Petition they were dismissed The Petition was this To the Honorable the Knights Citizens and Burgesses of the House of Commons in Parliament The Humble Petition of Aldermen Common Council men Subsidy-men and other Inhabitants of the City of London and Suburbs thereof Sheweth THat they do with all humble Thankfulness acknowledg that great Labour and Care The Factious Londoners Petition against Bishops Votes for putting the Kingdom into a posture of Defence c. Decemb. 11. 1641. which this Honorable Assembly hath undergone for the space of above one whole Year endeavouring the Reformation and removal of those many Pressures and Grievances in Church and Common-wealth And do humbly present that grateful acceptance and high Esteem which not only the Petitioners but also all well-affected to the Honor of his Majesty and Prosperity of this Kingdom have of these your great and unwearied Endeavours which althô they by reason of the Popish Lords and Bishops Voting in the House of Peers and other Impediments as they humbly conceive have not hitherto produced those happy Effects You aimed at yet to the Petitioners great Comfort divers of those Pressures are already removed as Arbitrary Courts Ship-Money Monopolies and other illegal Impositions wherewith they were burthened and further hopes given by the happy Act of this Parliaments continuance That notwithstanding all this the Papists and their adherents whose malice ceaseth not have by sundry secret and desperate Plots attempted the Ruin and Destruction of this State and Kingdom and however some of them have hitherto by Gods Providence and your Prudence been discovered and become abortive Yet the sad Effects of others of them are not only felt and much more seared in this Realm of England but also have of late broke out into open Rebellion in Ireland where most barbarous savage cruel and inhumane actions are practised towards our Brethren by Nation and Religion whose lamentable and deplored Condition the Petitioners much pity and lament and have just cause to fear That as already there hath been much Christian blood spilt so in short time if speedy help be not sent not only the many great Debts there owing to divers of the Petitioners and others of this Kingdom will be wholly lost but which is far more the very Name of the English and Protestant Religion there will be rooted out which those Rebels the Foundation of whose Religion is written in letters of blood do only oppose And for that divers of the Petitioners receive daily Information from all Parts of this Kingdom of the bold insolent Carriage and threatening speeches of the Papists in this Realm arising as the Petitioners humbly conceive not only from the prevailing of the Rebels in Ireland but also from the want of such secure and speedy Course against Papists here as the present condition of this Kingdom requireth and this Honorable Assembly hath Earnestly Endeavoured From which grounds the Petitioners cannot omit to represent unto you the great Terrors Fears and Distractions that they lye under of a suddain Surprize by their Bloody hands By means whereof the Trading of this City and Kingdom is much more of late decayed then it hath been for divers Years past no man following his Trade cheerfully while the Lives of himself and Family and the Publique Safety of the Kingdom are in danger and while he knoweth not how soon they may feel the like Cruelty and Inhumanity from the Papists and their Adherents as these in Ireland have done which if ever it shall happen this Honourable Assembly must Expect to have a deep share in their Malice and Cruelty against whom they have already by themselves and their Abettors endeavoured to raise a disrespect in the Hearts of the People to divide between the Kings Majesty and his Parliament and seditiously to misconstrue the Citizens Dutiful and Loyal Entertainment of his Majesty to be a deserting of this Honourable Assembly the least thought whereof the Petitioners do utterly detest and abhor To the End therefore that the destructive Plots of the Papists and their Adherents may be defeated the grounds of their Hopes and Inselencies removed considerable Forces with all Expedition sent to subdue those abominable and bloody Rebels in Ireland this City and Kingdom for prevention of the like Mischiefs here and securing the Peace thereof put into a Posture of Defence the Petitioners freed from their Fears encouraged in their Trades and in due time receive such just Answers to their former Petitions as shall seem best to your great Wisdoms It is humbly prayed That you will vouchsafe to be a means to the Kings Majesty and the House of Peers that life may be speedily given to your good Endeavours by their concurrence with you in the punishment of Delinquents and redressing the Pressures and Grievances in Church and Commonwealth amongst which the abuses crept in to the Ancient Government of this City they humbly desire may in due time be taken into Consideration And for the better Effecting hereof That the Popish Lords and Bishops may be removed out of the House of Peers as was desired in the presence of divers of this Honorable Assembly by the Representative Body of this City in the Guild-Hall when 50000 l. was freely lent to raise Forces for Ireland the greatest part whereof was speedily brought in by the Petitioners And the Petitioners who well know their own Safeties are wrapt up in Yours shall not fail to put up daily Prayers to Almighty God for your good Success and to maintain and defend to the utmost hazard of their Lives and Estates according to their late Protestation the Kings Majesty and High Court of Parliament against all Wicked Councellors and Malignant Opposers who endeavour either by secret Plots or open Force to prejudice the one or the other or to make division between his Majesty and the Parliament whom God and the Laws of the Land have united in so near Relation The Reader may observe by this Petition which it is easie to guess out of what Quiver the Arrow came how high the Springs of Rebellion were wound up here are Popish Lords and Bishops coupled together here are the Papists and their adherents that was all such as were Orthodox and Loyal Voted the Common Enemies here are Fears Terrors and Distractions Plots and Conspiracies Dangers and sudden Surprizes to amaze
but to rest most confident and assured that the Safety the Protection and the Prosperity of the City shall ever be with us a principal care After the reading of which most Gracious Message whereby is fully manifested and expressed his Majesties Gracious Goodness and great care for the safety and prosperity of this City the Lord Newburgh having withdrawn himself this Common-Council took the same into their serious consideration and how for the present to return by this Honourable Person unto his Majesty an Answer with all humility and thankfulness and after much debate it was fully agreed and resolved of by this Common-Council That in the first place should be returned and rendred unto his Majesty from this Common-Council as the Representative Body of the whole City their humble duty in all thankful manner for his goodness and gracious love and care manifested to this City Secondly That it should be signified unto his Majesty this Court nor any particular Member thereof hath had any hand in these Tumultuous and Riotous proceedings and that they and every of them do disavow and disclaim the same Thirdly That it may be likewise signified That this Court as the Representative Body of the whole City doth promise from hence-forth their best endeavours to prevent and suppress in time to come as far as in them lyeth all such or the like Tumultuous Assemblies and all Mutinous and Rebellious persons And lastly That the humble desire of this Court may be presented unto his Majesty to be graciously pleased that all the Delinquents and Causers of these Tumults whatsoever they be being apprehended may be brought into Examination and receive condign punishment according to the Law And these four things thus agreed upon were by direction of this Common-Council here openly declared and delivered by the Mouth of Master Recorder unto that Honourable Person the Lord Newburgh here present with desire that the same should be by his Lordship accordingly presented unto his Majesty the which he promised to perform with trust And afterwards this Court entred into further consultation and debate touching the Tumultuous and Riotous Assemblies lately spread night and day in several parts of this City to the great trouble and affrightment of his Majesties good Subjects and also touching the great neglect of that due respect which ought to be given by the Inhabitants of this City to the several Precepts lately issued out by my Lord Major for a continual Watch and Ward day and night for prevention and suppression of such Tumults and Distempers And likewise touching the great neglect in appearance of the Trained Bands of this City to their Colours at the beat of the Drum especially in these times of danger in contempt of Authority being a matter of exceeding great consequence and not fit to be suffered And thereupon this Common-Council Taking much to heart that such disobedience should grow and be found in the Inhabitants of this City to the great disrespect of Magistracy and Contempt of Government And that such Disorders and Tumultuary Assemblies should be permitted in such a City as this formerly famous for the good and quiet Government thereof hath thought it very expedient and behovâ—ful for redress and remedy to be had in these abuses being not fit to be any longer endured That every Member of the Common-Council now Assembled shall in their several Precincts spread it abroad and make it known That if any person or persons shall from hence-forth neglect his duty and service to be performed as aforesaid and shall not do his best endeavour to suppress or prevent any Tumults or Riotous Assemblies that shall hereafter be attempted within this City or Liberties thereof that then he or they offending shall receive condign punishment according to his or their demerits And it is further thought fit and so agreed by this Common-Council that my Lord Major may send out his Precepts in such manner and to such purpose as his Lordship and his Brethren the Aldermen shall think fit for Watch and Ward raising of Arms or otherwise for the safety and preservation of this City to which this Court and all the Members thereof promise all due and cheerful obedience And that Posterity may see his Majesty had great reason for what he did I will present the Reader with one of those Sheets then Printed giving an account of the Rudeness and Insolence of the Rabble from whence thô written as partially as may be and in favour of them yet it will be easie to observe both theirs and the Calumniating temper of the Parliamentarian Scriblers of that Age who made all men Atheists and Papists that were not Seditious Rebels The Paper is in these words THE Apprentices waiting there days at the Parliament House An Act for the Tumult of the Apprentices Dec. 31. 1641. without giving affront or ill Language to any they did only with a full consent Cry down Bishops and Popish Lords But coming scattering home by slender Companies were set upon by divers Caviliers who did cut many and misused most with base Language not only Apprentices but Men of good Rank and Quality calling them Ram-headed Rogues to the great disparaging and disheartning of them in their Trades and Callings for by this means many Tradesmen have shut up Shops and given over their Trades because they are so abused And the adverse Party Papists and their Adherents greatly countenanced and incouraged which makes them so bold and insolent that they care not what outrages they commit against honest men of good report and the Kings loyal and good Subjects and without some speedy redress and suppressing of them by the good Laws of the Land against such as do so insolently fall upon the Kings Majesties Subjects without cause there is like to be many thousand lives spilt and taken away The Apprentices being many of them committed and the other discountenanced made the Apprentices to swell in Blood to the adventure of the loss of their lives met on Wednesday night last to the number of two thousand with Clubs Swords Halberts and were resolved to go to the White-Lyon and others cryed out To my Lord Major's but by the providence of God and the grave wisdom of Captain Ven they were prevented by the grave Speech that followeth Gentlemen Let me intreat you to be at peace and quietness and return every one to his own habitation and you shall find we will be as ready to do any favour for you and relieve you in any of your just Grievances as you can or shall your selves and as you shew your willingness to us so shall we with our lives be willing and ready to help you therefore pray depart every man to his own home in Peace that it may not be said of you they are rude and tumultuous but that you may shew your selves to be discreet in all your affairs to the advancing of the Cause you have in hand and refer the Cause to us which will be ready
to support you to our powers in all that shall be just Then some cryed out But what shall they do for the Brethren that were Committed by my Lord Major and at Westminster before they shall suffer we will spend all our lives The Captain made answer That for those that were Committed at Westminster he and another was appointed by the House to release them all and we did so the same night before we came from Westminster And if my Lord Major hath committed any I will warrant you if you will be quiet and take my word they shall be released every one And as soon as I have refreshed my self I will go to my Lord Major and have them discharged but do you by no means go but return home So they cryed Home Home Home with a mighty noise Then the Major part went away but some of them remained there which would not be satisfied but went down to the Counter in Woodstreet where they were withstood by the Officers thereto belonging with Swords and half Pikes but some rusht in upon them and got away one of the half Pikes from one of them and then went up into Cheap-side again but could not rest satisfied but down they went again and the door being shut against them they brake it and brake the Windows After this the Keeper of the Counter let some of them come in and search for them in every Ward and questioned the Prisoners whether there was any or no but they found none there And therefore went away There are many Voluntiers agoing out but it is to be feared that there are many of them Papists who will be more ready to help the Papists against the King then the King against the Papists But I hope the Lord will defeat their designs and bring their evil ways upon their own heads if there be any that seeks the distruction of the Land Ireland is in a very bad estate and in much fear and trouble of the loss of Dublin but there is yet hopes if there be but present help and aid against the Rebels which is the desire of all true Subjects the going forward of the happy design Thus Courteous Reader you have had the full occurrant of the passages and in what a miserable estate we are brought unto by Papists and Atheists who swarm like the Frogs of Egypt over the whole Land and not likely to be swept away till the Lord in Mercy to his People sweep them into the Red-Sea of their own Blood into the depth of which the Lord bring all the Enemies of his Gospel And so I salute you with kind farewel The Lewdness and Licence of the times was certainly great and among all the Arts which wrought upon the inferior sorts of People none did more mischief then the Liberty of the Press from whence whole swarms of Venomous Pamphlets Calculated exactly to the low and sordid Capacities of the Vulgar flew about the City and Country and did strangely exasperate them especially against the Bishops and the King for favouring of them I do not intend to trouble the Reader with many of these foolish but mischievous Papers but I hope I shall be pardoned if among such a heap of useful Collections there happen to be gathered a little Chaff and yet I cannot think even some such Papers wholly unuseful which will contribute to give the World a true Character of all the little Arts as well as great ones of those Men and Times and to shew what an Excellent Talent some People who affected to be thought the truest of Protestants the Godly and Well-affected Party had in lying and slandering I will therefore present the Reader with a choice piece of Poetry made for a New-years-Gift for the Bishops upon their misfortune of being committed to the Tower It wears a Title which has been tied to many a lewd Libel and is Yâ—leped Vox Populi in plain English I. IN City and Country throughout the whole Land A Lewd Ballad against the Bishops and Common-Prayer The minds of the multitude divers ways stand There 's some that endeavour with might and with main To set the proud Prelates on Horse-back again That they may make Canons and send out their Oath To stablish their Power and dish out their * * So the Sectaries call the Liturgy by way of derision Broth. II. Of this Rank there 's many in every place The which were created by little Laud 's Grace Who since are grown lofty and now like to fall Which makes them through anguish aloud for to call To Papists and Atheists and all such as doth Love lazy proud Prelates and Luke-warm Broth. III. Those Fat-belly'd Priests that have Livings great store If Bishops go down they shall never have more Their Journey-men Readers likewise are afraid That they must be forc'd to give over their Trade And wear Leather Garments instead of black Cloth Which makes them love Bishops and Luke-warm Broth. IV. And great Men would never be counted such fools As to send their Children for learning to Schools But that they hoped in process of time That they to the Throne of a Bishop might climb And there Domineer which fills them with wroth Against such as love neither Bishops nor Broth. V. Another sort likewise must not be forgotten Who in their main Principles seems to be rotten Supposing that Heaven stands open to all That tend on their Pray'rs when the Saints Bell doth call Where instead of substance there 's nothing but froth Much like the proud Prelates so is this their Broth. VI. All these do indeavour as much as they may To back the base Bishops from day unto day The Papists assist them and rather then fail The Devil will help them that he may prevail It makes for his Kingdom to stand for them both I mean the proud Prelates and their Common Broth. VII Against this rude Regiment there doth appear Some Troops of couragious hearts that will not fear T' incounter this Rabble in mischief profound * * The Streets rung again with these Gries Hark how they cry down with them down to the Ground The Papists and Prelates away with them both For we will have none of them nor of their Broth. VIII And these are no base ones as some do suggest But of the King's Subjects indeed are the best Endeavouring the good both of Kingdom and State Whatever Baal 's Priests and proud Prelates do prate Who for the love which they bear unto sloth Do labour to hold up their Luke-warm Broth. IX Then let all good People take Courage indeed So that they from Anti-Christs Yoak may be freed And seeing that Libertie's gain'd by the Scots Let English-men seek for 't it may be their Lotts Then joyn hands together and fear not their wrath But cry down the Prelates and spew out their Broth. X. Their pride and presumption must needs have a fall Their wicked devices for Judgment doth call Their hatred of
Soams Alderman Pennington and Mr. Venn do repair to the Common-Council of the City of London when they are sitting and to acquaint them with the Information this House received what Practices have been used to the Inns of Court and those other Informations of the like Nature that have been given to this House of the Preparations of Armed Men about White-Hall and those other Preparations at the Tower And to inform them in what danger the Parliament the Kingdom and the City is in It was also Ordered That Mr. Whittaker Sir Robert Pye and Mr. Pury do presently repair to the House of the Marquess de Neuf-ville and see if his House be furnished with Warlike Ammunition as the House is informed Memorandum Mr. Hollis Mr. Pym Sir Arthur Haslerigg Mr. The 5 Members appearance Entred in the Journal Hampden and Mr. Strode appeared to day according to the Injunction of the House And I find among the Prints of that time a Speech of Mr. Hampden's upon the occasion of his Impeachment which confirms this Memorandum which was as followeth Mr. Speaker IT is a true Saying of the Wise Man That all things happen alike to all Men Mr. Hampden's Speech in Vindication of himself against his Impeachment Jan. 4. 1641. as well to the good Man as to the bad There is no state or condition whatsoever either of Prosperity or Adversity but all sorts of Men are sharers in the same no man can be discerned truly by the outward appearance whether he be a good Subject either to his God his Prince or his Country until he be tryed by the Touchstone of Loyalty Give me leave I beseech you to parallel the Lives of either sort that we may in some measure discern Truth from Falshood and in speaking I shall similize their Lives 1. In Religion towards God 2. In Loyalty and due Subjection to their Soveraign in their Affection towards the Safety of their Country 1. Concerning Religion the best means to discern between the True and False Religion is by searching the Sacred Writings of the Old and New Testament which is of it self pure indited by the Spirit of God and written by Holy Men unspotted in their Lives and Conversations and by this Sacred Word may we prove whether our Religion be of God or no and by looking in this Glass we may discern whether we are in the Right Way or no. And looking into the same I find that by this Truth of God that there is but one God one Christ one Faith one Religion which is the Gospel of Christ and the Doctrine of the Prophets and Apostles In these two Testaments is contained all things necessary to Salvation if that our Religion doth hang upon this Doctrine and no other secondary Means then it is true to which comes nearest the Protestant Religion which we profess as I really and verily believe and consequently that Religion which joyneth with this Doctrine of Christ and his Apostles the Traditions and Inventions of Men Prayers to the Virgin Mary Angels Saints that are Used in the Exercise of their Religion strange and Superstitious Worshipping cringing bowing creeping to the Altar using Pictures Dirges and such like cannot be true but Erroneous nay devillish and all this is used and maintained in the Church of Rome as necessary as the Scripture to Salvation therefore is a false and Erroneous Church both in Doctrine and Discipline and all other Sects and Schisms that leans not only on the Scripture though never so contrary to the Church of Rome is a false worshipping of God and not the true Religion And thus much concerning Religion to discern the truth and falshood thereof 2 I come now Mr. Speaker to the second thing intimated unto you which was how to discern in a state between good Subjects and bad by their Loyalty and due Subjection to their Lawful Sovereign in which I shall under favour observe two things 1. Lawful Subjection to a King in his own Person and the Commands Edicts and Proclamations of the Prince and his Privy Council 2. Lawful Obedience to the Laws Statutes and Ordinances made Enacted by the King and the Lords with the Free Consent of his Great Council of State assembled in Parliament For the First To deny a willing and dutiful Obedience to a Lawful Soveraign and his Privy Council for as Cambden truly saith The Commands of the Lords Privy Councellors and the Edicts of the Prince is all one for they are inseparable the one never without the other either to defend his Royal Person and Kingdoms against the Enemies of the same either publique or private or to defend the Antient Priviledges and Prerogatives of the King pertaining and belonging of Right to his Royal Crown and the maintenance of his Honor and Dignity or to defend and maintain true Religion Established in the Land according to the truth of God is one sign of an Evil and Bad Subject Secondly To yield Obedience to the Commands of a King if against the true Religion against the Ancient and Fundamental Laws of the Land is another sign of an ill Subject Thirdly To resist the Lawful Power of the King to raise Insurrection against the King admit him adverse in his Religion to Conspire against his Sacred Person or any wayes to Rebel thô Commanding things against our Consciences in Exercising Religion or against the Rights and Priviledges of the Subject is an absolute sign of a Disaffected and Trayterous Subject And now having given the Signs of discerning Evil and Disloyal Subjects I shall only give you in a word or two the Signs of discerning which are Loyal and Good Subjects only by turning these Three Signs already shewed on the contrary side 1. He that willingly and chearfully endeavoureth himself to obey his Soveraign's Commands for the Defence of his own Person and Kingdoms for the Defence of True Religion for the Defence of the Laws of his Country is a Loyal and good Subject 2. To deny Obedience to a King commanding any thing against Gods true Worship and Religion against the Ancient and Fundamental Laws of the Land in endeavouring to perform the same is a good Subject 3. Not to resist the Lawful and Royal Power of the King to raise Sedition or Insurrection against his Person or to set Division between the King and his good Subjects by Rebellion although commanding things against Conscience in the Exercise of Religion or against the Rights and Priviledges of the Subject but patiently for the same to undergo his Prince's Displeasure whether it be to his Imprisonment Confiscation of Goods Banishment or any other Punishment whatsoever without Murmuring Grudging or Reviling against his Soveraign or his Proceedings but submitting willingly and chearfully himself and his Cause to Almighty God is the only sign of an Obedient and Loyal Subject I come now to the Second Means to know the difference between a good Subject and a bad by their Obedience to the Laws Statutes and Ordinances made
desire the Lieutenant may be sent for to give an Account of these things Which the Lords agreed to and immediately sent for the Lieutenant and Captain Connisby to atttend both Houses of Parliament presently But this was not satisfactory enough for Mr. Pym came with a second Message to the same Effect And that therefore the House of Commons desire that Directions may be given to the Lieutenant of the Tower and the Master of the Ordnance That no Provisions or Ammunition whatsoever shall be sent out of the Tower without the King's Authority signified by both Houses of Parliament and that no extraordinary quantity of Provisions be brought into the Tower without his Majesties Pleasure signified by the Houses of Parliament For the putting this in Execution the House of Commons desire that a convenient Guard may be put about the Tower by Land and by Water and this Guard to be appointed by the Sheriffs of London and to be under the Command of Sergeant Major General Skippon and that the Care of the Parliament herein may be intimated to the Common Council of London Whereunto the House of Lords immediately agreed Thus did they exactly follow the Example of their Brethren of Scotland who in the beginning of the Rebellion there laid a Blockade to the Castle of Edinburgh till they got it into their Power and a Creature of their own placed in it which was the Design now upon the Tower of London And these Messages produced the following Order Ordered by the Lords and Commons in Parliament Order of Lords and Commons to set a Guard upon the Tower That the Earl of Newport Master of the Ordnance and the Lieutenant of the Tower for the time being their Deputies or other Officers shall not permit or suffer any Ordnance Ammunition or other Provisions whatsoever to be carried out of the Tower nor permit extraordinary Increase of Waiters or any Provision of Victuals in any extraordinary Quantity or Proportion to be brought into the Tower without the King's Authority signified to both Houses of Parliament And for the better Safeguard of the Tower It is further Ordered by both Houses of Parliament That the Sheriffs of London and Middlesex shall appoint and place a sufficient Guard about the Tower both by Land and Water under the Command of Sergeant Major General Skippon Commander of the Guards of the Parliament and that these Guards be careful to see the former Order observed And the said Sheriffs are required to intimate to the Common Council of London in what manner the Lords and Commons have provided for the Safety of the Tower Order to stay 4 Dunkirkers with Ammunition c. for the Rebels Then an Order was directed to the Lord Admiral to stay four Ships lately come from Dunkirk with Arms and Ammunition for the Rebels in Ireland also the like Order to the L. Duke of Richmond Constable of Dover-Castle and Lord Warden of the Cinque-Ports and to the Earl of Portland Captain of the Isle of Wight The House was informed that the Lieutenant of the Tower was served with the Order and after he had read it he said Lieutenant of the Tower's answer to the Order to attend the Parliament That he was very desirous to attend the Houses of Parliament according to the Order but conceived he could not come without his Majesties leave first obtained in respect he hath received a Warrant from his Majesty with a Command not to depart out of the Tower without his Majesties leave but to reside there A Copy of which Warrant the Lieutenant sent to the Parliament and Captain Conisby was called in and attested the same producing this following Warrant CHARLES R. TRusty and Well beloved We greet you well The King's Warrant to Sir John Byron Lieutenant of the Tower Forasmuch as in these Tumultuous times We have thought it necessary that the Tower of London where remains not only Our Principal Magazine of Arms and Munition but also Our Records and other Matters of great Importance should be always very well Ordered and that all the Officers and Guard there should be all Resident to perform their Duties Our Will and Command therefore is That you fail not to reside constantly in Our said Tower to see the Guard there to perform their several and respective Duties and that you at no time go out of Our said Tower upon any occasion whatsoever without first acquainting Vs therewith and receiving Our leave and Order for the same and herein We expect that you fail not as you tender Our displeasure and will Answer the contrary for which these shall be your sufficient Warrant Given under Our Signet at Our Court at White-Hall the 10 th day of January in the 17 Year of Our Reign To Our Trusty and Well-beloved Sir John Byron Knight of the Bath Lieutenant of Our Tower of London Whereupon the House conceived That the Lieutenant of the Tower had committed a high Contempt to the Order of this House in not coming notwithstanding the King's Warrant because the King's Command is always supposed to be in an Order of this House And after much debate a Message was sent to acquaint the Commons with the whole Matter A Message was then brought up from the Commons by Mr. Nathaniel Fines Information against Lord Digby Col. Lunsford That whereas the House of Commons hath been informed That Collonel Lunsford and the Lord George Digby Son to the Earl of Bristol with others have gathered together Troops of Horse and have appeared in a Warlike Manner at Kingston upon Thames within the County of Surrey where the Magazine of that Part of the Countrey lies to the Terror and Fright of his Majesties good Subjects and Disturbance of the Publick Peace of the Kingdom the House of Commons hold it fit that particular directions be sent to the Sheriffs of Surrey and Middlesex Bucks and Berks for the suppressing of such Assemblies being contrary to Law and to take some Course for the securing of those four Counties and the Strand and Westminster and the Magazines thereof and for the suppressing of all unlawful Assemblies that are gathered together to the disturbance of the Peace of the Kingdom and they to be required to call in the Justices of the Peace and Train'd Bands of the Counties for their Assistance herein and to give a speedy account of their Proceedings therein to the Parliament The House of Commons do also desire their Lordships to take Order That the Lord Digby a Member of this House be required to give his Attendance here Portsmouth And further they desire That an Order may be sent from both Houses to the Governor of Portsmouth requiring him that he do not deliver up the Town nor receive any Forces into it but by his Majesties Authority signified by both Houses of Parliament And Lastly Common-Council Whereas the Common Council of London hath appointed a Committee to consider of the defence and safety of the
fruition of your future favours The fixion our Confidence in you before any other of the Peers and privy Councellors of the Kingdom doubleth this Obligation Your Lordship may therefore be pleased to acquaint the Lords Justices and Councel to be imparted unto his Sacred Majesty with our Grievances and the causes thereof the reading of which we most humbly pray and the manner of it First the Papists in the neighbouring Counties are severely puniâ—â—ed and their miseries might serve as Beacons unto us to look unto our own when our Neighbours Houses are on fire And we and other Papists are and ever will be as loyal Subjects as any in the King's Dominions For manifestation whereof we send herein inclosed an Oath solemnly taken by us which as it received indelible Impression in our hearts shall be sign'd with our hand and seal'd with our Blood Secondly There is an incapacity in the Papists of Honour and the Immunities of true Subjects the royal Marks of distributive Justice and a disfavour in the Commutative which rais'd Strangers and Forreigners whose valour and vertue was invincible when the old Families of the English and the Major part of us the meer Irish ddi swim in blood to serve the Crown of England and when Offices should call Men of worth Men without Worth and merit obtain them Thirdly The Statute of the 2 Eliz. of force in this Kingdom against us and they of our Religion doth a little disanimate us and the rest Fourthly The avoidance of Grants of our Lands and Liberties by Quirks and Quiddities of the Law without reflecting upon the Kings Royal and real Intention for confirming our Estates his Broad Seal being the pawn betwâ—â—t his Majesty and his people Fifthly The restraint of purchase in the meer Irish of Lands in the Escheated Counties and the taint and blemish of them and their posterities doth more discontent them than that plantation Rule for they are brought to that Exigent of poverty in these late times that they must be sellers and not buyers of Land And we conceive and humbly offer to your Lordships consideration Principiis obsta that in the beginning of this Commotion Your Lordship as it is hereditary for you will be a Physitian to cure this Disease in us and by our Examples it will doubtless beget the like auspicious scucess in all other parts of the Kingdom For we are of opinion it is one sickness and one pharmach will suffice Sublata causa tollitur Effectus And it will be recorded that you will do service unto God King and Countrey And for salving every the aforsaid Soars your Lordship is to be an humble Suitor in our behalf and of the rest of the Papists that out of the abundance of his Majesties Clemency there may be an Act of Oblivion and general pardon without restitution or Account of Goods taken in the time of this Commotion a liberty of our Religion a repeal of all Statutes formerly made to the contrary and not by Proclamation but Parliamentary way A Charter free Denizen in ample manner for meer Irish All which in succeeding Ages will prove an Union in all his Majesties Dominions instead of Division a Comfort in Desolation and a Happiness in perpetnity for an eminent Calamity And this being granted there will be all things Quae sunt Caesaris Caesari and Quae sunt Dei Deo And it was by the Poet written though he be prophane in other matters yet in this prophetically Divisum Imperium cum Jove Caesar habet All which for this present we to leave your Honourable Care And we will as we ever did and do remain Your very humble and assured ever to be Commanded Hugh mac Gillernow Farrall James Farrall Bryan Farrall Readagh Farrall Edmond mac Cael Farrall John Farrall in Carbuy Garret Farrall Lisagh mac Conel Farrall Bryan mac William Farrall James mac Trig Farrall his Mark Morgan mac Carbry Farrall Donnagh mac Carbry Farrall Richard mac Conel Farrall William Mac James Farrall James Farrall Taghna mac Rory Farral Cormack mac Rory Farrall Conock mac Bryne Farrall John mac Edmund Farrall John Farrall Roger mac Bryne Farrall Barnaby Farrall Redeagh mac Lisagh Farrall Connor Oge mac Connor Farrall Edmond mac Connor Farrall Cahel mac Bryne Farrall Before the Parliament broke up the Popish Lords deputed the Lord Dillon to go into England to carry over their Desires to the King and to represent the Means which they thought fittest for the suppressing of the Rebellion and he with the Lord Taaf imbarqued for England but by stress of Weather the Vessel was driven into Scotland and they took their way by Land for London But the Parliament having notice of their coming they were by Order of the Commons seized upon and brought up in safe Custody and all their Papers searched and Examined So unwilling it seems was the Faction that any Address should be made to the King or that any Steps should be made towards the reducing that Kingdom to his Majesties Obedience by any sort of Treaty or Accommodation By this procedure though they gained upon the good Opinion of the People whose favor they most industriously courted and to whom nothing sounded more pleasant then what seemed to express a Hatred and Detestation of the Irish Rebellion and Religion yet certainly was it a means of running the Rebels into such Extremities as dispair of Mercy are wont to produce in those who have transgressed the Bounds of Law and Duty and know their Lives and Estates without it to be forfeited to Justice But for the better understanding of this and some other Particulars the Reader may peruse the following Extracts of some Letters from the Board in Ireland which I found among the old Papers of the Clerk of the Parliaments Office Extract of a Letter of the Lords Justices and Council of Ireland to the Lord Lieutenant dated the 25th of November 1641. THe Rebels in the County of Wexford increasing daily Extract of divers Letters of the Lords Justices Council of Ireland to the Lord Lieutenant received the 6 of December by Mr. Fitz-Girald read Dec. 10. 1641. have taken the Castles of Arickloe Limbrick the Lord Esmond 's House and Fort-Chichester places of good Strength and Importance The Rebels also in the County of Wickloe have laid Siege to his Majesties Castle of Wickloe those in that Castle were in fight with them Yesterday what the issue is we yet hear not and some of those Rebels in the County of Wickloe have dared to come within four Miles of this City and swept away great droves of Cattle And in both Counties as well Wickloe as Wexford all the Castles and Houses of the English with all their substance are come into the hands of the Rebels and the English with their Wives and Children strip'd naked and banished thence by their fury and rage The Rebels in the County of Longford do still increase also as well in their Numbers as in their
are nothing at all on the matter Sir James Montgomery tells you a Tale not much Material nor Mr. Maxwell nor Sir John Clotworthy there is nothing at all in it concerning Treason Stewart's Sentence remains only to be answered in this Article for that I conceive it was justly and fairly given as I then conceived I was one of the rest and nothing was intended by that Decree but his Reformation and when he had pleased to have taken the Oath he might have been released of the Sentence and sent home again quietly The next is the 20th Article Wherein I am Charged to be a Provoker and Incendiary of a War against his Majesties Subjects of the Scotch Nation and that I should say of them They were Rebels and Traytors and being about to come into England that I should say I would root out of the Kingdom the Scotish Nation Root and Branch My Lords I shall need no more to say in this for my being an Incendiary I think by the Proof it hath been clearly made appear to your Lordships that I gave no Opinion but such as others did in the like Case It is proved by Lord Traquair and my Lord Treasurer and might have been proved by many more if it had been needful For the Words that I should say The Rooting out the Scots Root and Branch They are only testifi'd by one single Witness Salmon the School-Master swears it and no man else but he and I hope my Lords that when your Lordships do call to mind how he is Crost by his Fellow Witness John Loftus your Lordships will be satisfied he Swears I will persecute them to the Blood and root them out Root and Branch and I cannot tell what But John Loftus said indeed that I said I hope that such of the Scottish Nation as would not submit to the Ecclesiastical Government I would root out stock and branch a wonderful difference between these two But my Lords it was testified by Mr. Secretary Manwaring then present that I never spoke the one nor the other but as in my Answer I did truely and faithfully deliver it I said that unless they would take that Oath of Allegiance and secure the King of their Allegiance in that point I hope I should not see any of them stay in that Kingdom that refused it and there is no proof in the World but the School-Master and I hope your Lordships will not take him to be a good and valid proof to convince me in this Case being a person of no greater Quality and crossed by his fellow Witness For my self I do absolutely say I was so far from wishing ill to that Nation or any Dissension or Division between them that I never desired other in my heart and soul but a firm Peace through the King's Dominions My Counsels tended to that and if I might seem to begin in a contrary way yet the last resort was to bring all to quietness and so that it should be without Blood And I dare say there be them that heard me say it many a time in the King's Council That the King should be in nothing so much sparing and tender as to draw any Blood in that Quarrel I dare say many that heard it will justifie me in it And if your Lordships will give me leave I do think I have something that might procure your Lordships belief that it was so for at that time my Fortune though now by Misfortune it be mean enough was such as I needed not desire to shuffle the Cards and deal anew and especially when nothing was to be got but Blows and that I trust will be an Argument to your Lordships that nothing was desired by me so much as Peace and that under God's goodness and the protection and Benefit of His Majestie 's Scepter I might enjoy the little Estate my Ancestors left me for it is certainly true whatever the World may think to the contrary it is very little better from what my Father left me something it is and the most part of the Improvement of it was before I came to serve the King and yet I have had more from the King then I deserved in all kinds and all the whole service of my Life were it never so many years could not Merit nor deserve from him the Hundred part of what I had from His Favour My Lords Mr. Treasurer Vane says I was in the Argument for an Offensive and he for a Defensive War for a War both of us And I beseech your Lordships How should it be more Treasonable for me to be for an Offensive then for him to be for a Defensive War for a War there must be and the difference was not great and for a Councellor to deliver his Opinion and have that turned upon him as Capital to sweep from the World himself and his Posterity is a very hard Case to say no more of it The next Article is the 21th wherein I am Charged to be an Enemy to Parliaments a Breaker of Parliaments and did by that means sow ill Affections betwixt the King and His People My Lords This is more fully Charged in a Subsequent Article then this for this is but only for breaking of the last Parliament that I should advise it to be called with an intent to break it which is very unlikely for that nothing in the World could be of so happy effect to me as the success of that Meeting and yet I must destroy and disadvantage my self in that then which nothing could be of more advantage then the success of that Parliament The 22th Article is Answered already and the 23th likewise In the 24th Article comes in that of the Parliament more fully and there I am Charged Falsly and Treacherously and Malitiously to have declared before His Majesties Privy-Council That the Parliament of England had forsaken the King and given Him the Advantage to Supply Himself otherwayes and having so Malitrously Slandered the said House of Commons that I did with the Advice of the Archbishop of Canterbury and the Lord Finch Publish a False and Trayterous Book called His Majestie 's Declaration of the Causes of Dissolving the last Parliament c. This goes very heavy upon me in the World that I should be a breaker of Parliaments a Counsellor against Parliaments My Lords there is nothing proved of it and I hope I shall be cleared by your Lordships and these noble Gentlemen and all the World that I had no such thing in my heart For the Point of the Declaration I was at that time Sick in my Bed and could do nothing in it and therefore I trust I shall be acquitted as to that As to the Breaking of the Parliament or any ill-will to Parliaments I have ever honour'd them and far be it from me to wish that they may not be frequent for the good of the King and Kingdom but as oft as you shall have it urged and prest against me that I should
be an endeavourer to Subvert the Fundamental Lawes of the Land in this kind I beseech your Lordships call to mind what hath been proved that at all Publick Debates at Council and Privately apart I have humbly represented to His Majesty from time to time That Parliaments are the Only Way to Settle Himself in Quietness in the Kingdom and to acquire Prosperity and Happiness to Himself and His People And when you shall hear them press upon me that I have endeavoured to Subvert the Fundamental Laws of the Land I beseech your Lordships to call to mind how frequently and fervently I have advised the King to call for Parliaments which under God is the great Protection and Defence of the Fundamental Laws of the Kingdom To the 25th I have Answered already and to the 26th likewise The next is the 27th and for that I can say no more then that your Lordships have heard the Proofs for the Levying of Money it hath been cleared to your Lordships that nothing was done by me but by Consent of the Country with their Unanimous good liking and for their benefit and advantage Being done so and for so good ends as I trust that shall not be enforced against me and it is very strange to me why it should be expected that if two Armies be in the Field one against the other as there was at York that they should be Govern'd with as much quietness as an Atturney walking with his Writs at his Girdle betwixt the King's Bench and the Common-pleas For Armies cannot be Govern'd without some Latitude in this kind Inter arma Silent Leges rightly applyed there is truth in that But I did nothing in the Business I did nothing by Compulsion but by the voluntary liking of the Parties themselves and therefore I conceive that shall not be Charged upon me as Treason There remains now the 28th Article and that is the onely Bloody Article if it had been or could be made good that is in the whole Charge for there I am Charged out of ill and wicked purposes and indeed What can be worse than Treason to have Betrayed Newcastle into the power of the Scotch Army and likewise to have betrayed the King's Army at Newburn to a dishonourable Retreat My Lords if either of these had been true I should have saved your Lordships the labour I would have given Judgment against my self that had been certain But my Lords never was any Man more Innocent therefore they may very well wave it Have I been all this while Charged as an Incendiary and Am I now come in the Conclusion to be charged as a Confederate it is wonderful strange certainly your Articles fight one against another in this for How can I be an Incendiary in one part and a Conspirator with them that Charged me to be an Incendiary in the other part In good Faith I have not been very kindly dealt withal by my Confederates if they be Confederates to Charge me as an Incendiary that did them that Service and Help as to deliver into their hands a Town of such Consequence as that is No my Lords I wish all happiness to the Nation but I can never wish so to it as that they should take one of the King's Towns in England if I could have helped it My Lords it was lost before I had the Charge of the Army I had nothing to do in the business nor am I to give any Accompt of it nor is any thing proved And as to the Defeat at Newburn you yet fight one Article with another methinks in that too for I am charged to be the Man that delivered up Newcastle and yet all the World knows that nothing could save it from being lost but taking away from the Scots the Passages at that time So that I should use all means to prevent Men from doing that which I meant to do for them is verye all strange to me Here is no Probability and certainly little truth in the whole business as concerning my Confederating with the Scots either for the one or the other And so my Lords I am come to the end of these 28 Articles that were for my further Impeachment I have gone over them all and out of these now there remains that other Second Treason that I should be guilty of endeavouring to Subvert the Fundamental Laws of the Land in the first of those Seven Articles My Lords That those should now be Treason together that are not Treason in any one part and Accumulatively to come upon me in that kind and where one will not do it of it self yet woven up with others it shall do it Under favour my Lords I do not conceive that there is either Statute-Law or Common-Law that hath declared this endeavouring to Subvert the Fundamental Laws to be High Treason I say neither Statute-Law nor Common-Law Written that I could hear of and I have been as diligent to enquire of it as I could be And your Lordships will believe I had reason so to do And sure it is a very hard thing I should here be question'd for my Life and Honor upon a Law that is not Extant that Cannot be Shewed There is a Rule that I have read out of my Lord Cook Non apparentibus non existentibus eadem est Ratio Jesu My Lords Where hath this Fire lay'n all this while so many hundred years together that no Smoak should appear till it burst out now to consume me and my Children Hard it is and extream hard in my Opinion that a Punishment should Precede the Promulgation of a Law that I should be Punished by a Law Subsequent to the Act done I most humbly beseech your Lordships take that into Consideration for certainly it were better a great deal to live under no Law but the Will of Man and Conform our selves in Humane Wisdom as well as we could and to Comply with that Will then to live under the Protection of a Law as we think and then a Law should be made to punish us for a Crime precedent to the Law then I conceive no Man living could be safe if that should be admitted My Lords it is hard in another respect that there should be no Token set upon this Offence by which we may know it no manner of Token given no Admonition by which we might be aware of it If I pass down the Thames in a Boat and run and Split my self upon an Anchor if there be not a Buoy to give me warning the Party shall give me Damages but if it be Marked out then it is at my own peril Now my Lords Where is the Mark set upon this Crime Where is the Token by which I should discover if it be not Marked if it lie under-Water and not above there is no Humane Providence can prevent the Destruction of a Man Presently and Instantly Let us then lay aside all that is Humane Wisdom let us rely onely upon Divine Revelation for