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A59090 The priviledges of the baronage of England, when they sit in Parliament collected (and of late revised) by John Selden of the Inner Temple Esquire, out of Parliament rolles ... & and other good authorities ... : the recitalls of the French records in the 4th. chap., also newly translated into English ... Selden, John, 1584-1654. 1642 (1642) Wing S2434; ESTC R10915 70,579 178

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informed of the manner of this Iudgement the execution thereof shall be respited untill our Lord the King shall be informed thereof where it is commanded to the aforesaid Constable safely to keepe the said Iohn untill he hath other commandement from our Lord the King And it is to be remembred that Geffery Martyn Clerke of the Crowne was named in this record and delivered the same there in writing in this present roll by his own proper hand Ex. Rot. Parliamen 42. E. 3. M. 2. N. 22 23. c. WIlliam Latimer of the County of Dorset preferred a Petition in this Parliament in manner as followeth To our Lord the King and his Cou●cell sheweth William Latimer of the County of Dorset That whereas ou● Lord the King otherwhiles in the pestilence granted to the Bishop of Salisbury the Wardship of the Mannor of Dentish and Devillish in the said County being in his hands by the minority of Robert son and heire of Robert Latimer Knight together with the marriage of the said Robert the son being then of the Age of sixe yeeres for a certaine summe of money to him payed which Estate the said William Latimer hath held untill Master Iohn Lee then Steward by procurement of Thomas Delaber sent one Richard Inworth Serjeant at Armes in Dorset to the said William Latimer to bring him to London in safeguard as prisoner with the Intent aforesaid that is to say the Monday next before the Feast of the Nativity of Saint Iohn the Baptist in the yeare of our Lord the King that now is the nine and thirtieth and the said serjeant also performed the same and the said Master Iohn Lee did charge and command the said William in the Kings name that he should not goe out of Town upon paine of a hundred marks untill he had surrendered the body of the said heire contrary to the patent of the King to the said Mr. Iohn Lee and outed the said William of his Charter and moreover made a deed of release whereupon the said Master Iohn Lee comma●●●● to hold all the Lands and Tenements aforesaid untill the Feast of St. Michael then next ensuing for a certain summe of money and then the said Master Iohn Lee leased to the said William the Wardship of the said mannor of Devillish rendring forty pounds per annum whereof he was seised as prochein amy of the Infant viz. Pulchrain Helto Whitechurch Oxford Staket let the same to the said William and to divers other persons at his will by such duresse imprisonment and arresting the said William to the great mischiefe grievous dammages and losses to the great wrong of his simple estate wherof hee prayeth remedy To the points of which Petition the said Iohn Lee answereth and saith that because that the Mannors Lands and T●nements of Inheritance there comprised in the said Petition were wickedly extended by the Escheator and leased out of the Kings hand at too small a value to the great dammage and deceit of the King he caused the same Mannors Lands and Tenements to be resumed into the Kings hands the Wardship of which Mannors and the marriage of which said heire the King had committed to him And likewise the said Iohn Lee was put to answer before the Lords of the affaires in such time as hee was Steward of the Kings houshold for that he had attaiched divers Gentlemen by their Bodies some by Serjeants of Armes and some by other wayes as William Latimer and others and caused them to come before himselfe as before the Counsell of the King in places where pleased him out of any of the Kings accustomed places to answer to divers things whereof the recognizances ought to appertaine to the Courts of the King Item It was debated concerning his authority of Stewardship that he within the verge had attaiched divers Gentlemen of the verge as Iohn Goddard and others to answer in the Marshallsea of things done out of the verge and caused some men to be apprehended and sent to the Tower of London of his owne Authority without Commandement of the King or his Councell It was likewise debated that Hugh Lavenham had appealed certaine Gentlemen of Felony and that before the Kings Iustices at Newgate and divers Gentlemen arraigned at his suit whereof some put themselves upon the Country and some defended themselves by their bodies and stayed in prison as the Law demanded and that an Appeallee of murder was let goe at large by Commandement of the said John Lee against the Law and command of the Iustices and that hee tooke the said Hugh by his owne Authority and let him goe at large and some that were not appeallees in roll of the Crowne at the suggestion of the said Hugh were taken and imprisoned as if they had beene appeallees It was also affirmed that whereas the said Iohn Lee was sworne to the King and his Councell he did bargaine with Master Nicholas Lovaine concerning the Wardship of the Mannor of Reinham in Kent being then in the hand of the said Nicholas by the under age of the sonne and heire of Iohn Stanton as appeared by certaine evidences as well by letters Patents under the Kings Great Seale as others which the said Iohn had in his keeping that very plainely the said Mannor was holden of our Lord the King in chiefe as of his Castle of Dover and Fort that the Wardship thereof appertained to the King to the great dammage and deceit of the King against his Oath Of which points and articles hee cannot duely and suffici●ntly excuse himselfe by the Law and therefore was the said Iohn commanded to the Tower of London and there to stay as a prisoner till he had made fine and ransome to the King according to his will And it was commanded to Master Allen Buxall Constable of the Tower that he take safe keeping of him and so departed the Prelates Dukes Earles and Barons and afterwards by the commandement of the King the said Iohn was caused to come guarded from the Tower to Westminster before the Great Councell and at other times examined upon the points of the Petition the ●ad Willi●m Latimer answered and said Tha● our Lord the King had committed the wardship of the Mannors Lan●s and Tenements of the said heire untill the Age of the said heire together with the marriage of the said heire and as intirely hee would render it into the Kings hands And then before the said Councell it was agreed and assented by them That the said Mannors Lands and Tenements and the body of the heire aforesaid ought to be released in the Kings hand and delivered to the said William Latimer to hold as hee held of the said Bishop untill the full Age of the said heire doing to the King in manner as it was before the said Iohn surrendered the same and that the Letters Patents of the King made to the said Bishop of the same ward and marriage and the Letters of the said
in North Dalton to serve for 7. yeares for fifty pound a yeare and that hee hath lost by the said Farme in the said time a 100. marks and further saith that the said Mannor with the ten markes of rent in Dalton altogether are extended as appeares in the Chancery but at 41. l. 9. s. 3. d ob And for that that the said Earle understands by the Earle of Kent who hath had the said two parts of the said Mannor together with the said ten marks at the value of 50. marks that the intire Mannor could not bee above the value of 50. pounds And further saith that the said Mannor with the ten markes are not worth more And that under a certain● paine saith that whatsoever person will sustaine the charges of the said Mannor sufficiently and pay him for the two parts 50. markes for aid and as to the third part bee it what it will let him give security to pay for the said Mannor with the ten markes of rent 50. l. per annum that hee will so lease it with all his heart ITem as to that impeachment of the Commons of a 100. pound pension out of the provision of Saint Ant●o●y and that the said Earle should sell the Lawes and put in an Example of Master William Thorpe c the said Earle answereth That the cases are nothing alike which the parties pleaded before the said Master William Thorpe as before their Iudge for the Lawes of England In which case no Iudges ought to take reward of any parties pleading before them But the s●id provision came to him with the help of Saint Pierce the Pope and not as a Chancellor or Iudge in this case but as Father and friend to John his son At which time a man knew not if the said Iohn had obtained it of the Popes favour or no Also faults were found by the Counsell of the said Earle in the Bulls of the said provision And from the same caus● the said Provisour by his friends of his owne accord profered an annuall Pension of a 100. and 60. pound for to leave suit in the Court of Rome by his said Sonne and for that hee should not impeach the Bulls that the matters before said were not done as before a Iudge but by way of composition as may bee prooved by instrument and by witnesses in this Towne and so this matter touched not the Lawes of England and alwayes the said Earle intended not but that hee should bee holden to answer to the party in this case And thereupon after the answers of the said Earle given to the Accusations of the said Commons and the replications to them made of one part and of another the said Earle at the request of the said Commons for the greatnesses of the defaults so of him surmised was arrested by Commandement of the KING and Commons in ward of the Constable of England and afterwards let at Liberty upon bayle And for that the said Earle alleadged not in his answer that hee observed the effect of his Oath in that hee swore that hee would not know nor suffer dammage nor disherison cleerely and expressely to the KING together with his owne lawfull advice and Councell and that hee should cause and purchase the profit of the KING by all that he could reasonably doe and hee held the premisses although hee were principall Officer of the KING knowing the Estate and necessity of the KING and of the Realme and did take of the KING such Lands and Tenements as is supposed in the Impeachment to him in the said first article surmised although he alleadged in his answer that the deeds to him so made were confirmed by full Parliament there is no such accord in the rolls of Parliament wherefore it is awarded that all the mannors Lands Tenements rents services fees advonsons reversions profits with their appurtenances by him so received of the K. ●e reseised reprised into the K. hand to have to hold to our L. the K. the lands chattells of the said E. from thenceforth is not the Intention of the K. nor of the Lords nor that this Iudgement extend in the Law to cause the said E. to lose his name and title of Earle nor of the 20. pounds a yeare which the King granted him to take of the Issues of the County of Suffolk by the name and Title aforesaid And moreover for that the said E. lately denyed that he was of the K. privy counsel when he demāded of the K. the said exchāge had acknowledg'd that before the exchāges performed hee was made Chancellor in which Office hee was bound by his Oath made in the forme aforesaid and hee so being sworne to the said Office tooke of the King the said 400. markes of Land by reason of the said Exchange agreeing to the said covenant of Exchange which hee also made before that hee was Chancellor in which Office hee was bound by his Oath And alleadged not in his said answer that the King gave him Mannors Lands and Tenements which are certaine and cannot very easily bee destroyed nor bee countervailed by the aforesaid 400. marks annuity which are leviable and demandable of the Customes and also as casuall and in divers cases there may losse insue It is awarded that all the Lands and Tenements so taken by the said Earle by the exchanges aforesaid bee resumed into the hands of our Lord the King to hold to him and his Heires in manner as hee held the same before the gift or deed in the said Exchange in which the Issues and profits aforesaid after the said exchange deducted if the said Issues and profits so taken after the Exchanges extend to a gr●ater value then 400. markes a yeare that then the King shall have the overplus of the Lands and chattells of the said Earle from thenceforth hereafter And it is therefore awarded that as well the said Mannor of Flaxflreet and the ten marks of rents aforesaid with the appurtenances bee reprised in the Kings hand to hold to him and his Heires as hee held the same before the gift to the said Earle so as the Charter the pardon and Confirmation of the purchase of the said fifty pounds of rent bee certaine in the hands of the King and his heires in firme as it was before the purchase and it was since to the said Earle and that the issues profits received or owing to the use of the said Earle as well of the said Mannor o●Faxfleet and the ten markes of rent as the Issues and profits of the said fifty pound of rent which he thereof had taken by reason of the purchase aforesaid bee levied to the use of our Lord the King of the Lands and Chattells of the said Earle from henceforth And as to the Article containing the Provisions of Saint ANTHONY for that the Master of the House of Saint Anthony in which the profits were taken as proved in England was a Schismaticke and taxed
The Priviledges OF THE BARONAGE OF ENGLAND When they sit in Parliament Collected and of late revised by John Selden of the Inner Temple Esquire out of the Parliament Rolles and Journalls Patent and close Rolls the Crowne Rolls the proceedings of the English Courts at Westminster the Register of the Arch-bishop of Canterbury and the Delegates yeare-Bookes of the Common Law Statutes other good Authorities and in such sort that frequently the words of the chiefest Testimonies are transcribed least the freedome of the Readers Iudgement might be other wayes prevented by short Collections The recitalls of the French Records in the 4th Chap. also newly translated into English for the benefit of others as well as the Students of the Lawes of England Quo communius eo magis bonum quod est justum LONDON Printed by T. Badger for Matthew Wallbanck and are to be sold at his shop at Grase-Inne Gate 1642. The Introduction by way of Table or Index to the Chapters following contained in this Treatise PRiviledges are speciall Rights belonging to the Baronage of England In which name are com●rehended all those who as Magnati proceres regni by common right are summoned to every Parliament wherein also they have place and voyce as incident to their Dignities and what things doe concerne them e●ther as they are one Estate together in the upper House or as every one of them is privately a single Baron As for the prelacy who had heretofore the first place in the summons viz. Praelati magnates c. they have now lost all their Priviledges o● sitting in Parliament and of bearing of any secular Offices in the Kingdome they are disabled by act of this present Parliament 17. Car. 1641. For Priviledges of the first kinde CHAP. TEstimonies are hereby collected touching CHAP. 1. Their proxies and making of proxies 1 CHAP. 2. Their proceedings in Suits as well for followers as for themselves during the Parliament 7. CHAP. 3. That none of them bee subject to bee questioned before the lower House onely 9. CHAP. 4. Their Jurisdi●●ion in matters of offences as well capital as not capitall Errors out of the Kings Bench 10 CHAP. 5. Their passing of Bills and giving of Iudgements heretofore without any assent of spirituall Lords 120 CHAP. 6. Their appointing of Iudges out of themselves for examination of delaies of Iudgements in other Courts 127 CHAP. 7. Their Tennants of ancient Tennancies bring discharged of paying the charges of Knights of the shiere 129 For Priviledges of the second kinde of which also some are communicated to Baronesses The heads of the Collections are CHAP. 1. FIrst touching Oathes and Protestationt upon Honour 131 CHAP. 2 Tryall by Peeres 142 CHAP. 3 Scandala magnatum 155 CHAP. 4. Processe against them in English Courts Proceedings by Bill and Answere id CHAP. 5. Their number of Chaplaines is qualified 158 CHAP. 6. Their retayning of strangers 159 CHAP. 7. Clergy without reading id CHAP. 8. Their libertie of hunting in the Kings Forrests 161 CHAP. 9. Amerciaments of them id CHAP. 10. No Processe in a civill account to bee awarded against the body of a Baron 163 CHAP. 11. A Knight to bee returned upon every pannell where a Baron is party 16 CHAP. 12. No day of grace against a Baro● of Parliament ib. CHAP. 13. Making Deputies of places of Trust committed to them without words of the special power 167 BEsides these they have some Rights which are so commonly knowne that there needs no particular mention of them as their interest in making or repealing of Lawes or the like and divers others may perhaps be found which have not been oblivious in the late search made for them but of these particulars before mentioned according to the order in which they are described such store as are here collected doe follow First of the speciall RIGHTS WHICH Concerne them as they are one estate in the upper House of Parliament CHAP. I. Of Proxies of the Lords of Parliament VPON the summons of the Parliament licence of absence being obtained and the same licence as usually it being provided that a proxie bee made the Baron so licensed may appeare onely by that proxie to whom his voyce is so committed although his Writ bee Quod personaliter inter●it and so also without licence upon sicknesse or such inevitable cause of absence The first mention of Proxies that occurres in the memories of our Parliaments is of Carlile under Edward the first where the words are Quia omnes Praelati Milites alij de communitate Regni tunc plenariè non venerunt receptis quibusdam procurationibus Praelatorum qui venire non poterant adjornantur omn●s qui summoniti sunt ad Parliamentum usqué ad diem Mercurij proximum sequentem ad horam primam And in a Parliament held at Westminster under Edwa●d the second the Bi●hops of of Durham and Carlile remaining upon the defence of the marches of Scotland were severally commanded to stay there And in the Writ this clause was ordered to both of them Sed procuratorem vestrum sufficientèr instructum ad dictos diem locum mittatis ad consentiendum quod tunc ibidem per dictos praelatos proceres contigerit ordinari And the like Testimonies are afterwards under the same King for allowance and making of proxies by the name of procuratores sufficientes And in succeeding times the Testimonies of them downe to this day are most frequent But two things are most especially observable touching them 1. THat although the generall proxies were admitted yet when the nature of the Parliamentory businesse required more speedie and full advice a clause was inserted into the summons to premonish the Baron summoned that his proxie should not bee admitted unlesse he were compelled to absent himselfe by most inevitable necessity So was it in the Writs of summons under Edward the third to the Parliament held for advice touching the voyage of the King of France into the holy Land every Baron having these words in his Writ Scientes pro certo quod nisi evidens manifestus id exposcat non intendimus procuratores seu excusatores pro vobis admittere ea vice propter arduitatem negotiorum praedictorum And likewise under Richard the second the summons to the Arch-Bishop of Canterbury and the rest had these words Et 〈◊〉 nullatonus amittatis ●ne quid absit per vestram absentiam quàm necessitate infirmitate tunc ●etenti fueritis quòd aliqualiter illuc laborare non poteritis nullo modo excusatum habere volumus ista vice expeditio ne potior nostr●rum praedictorum retardetur seu aliqual●ter deferatur And divers other Exam●l●s are for personall appearance and exc●uding Proxies 2. That the course of the elder time was not that Barons onely were made Proxies in the upper House as at this day but other men also of low condition and this hath beene very frequently in the case of Bishops and Parliamentory Abbots
of William Ellis and of all others Deputies of the said Richard Lyons throughout the Realme Parl. Anno 1. R. 2. n. 32. 33. ITem William Fitz-Hugh Goldsmith of London preferred his bill in Parliament in form as followeth To our thrice excellent thrice noble Lord the K. and to his thrice Honourable and thrice sage Councell shewen the poore Commons of the mysterie and company of Goldsmiths in the City of London that Iohn Chichester Iohn Botesham and many other Gentlemen and ric● goldsmiths of that mystery in the same City by their compassing and subtill devising deceitfully have caused many of the said company to enseale severally divers obligations and those who refused so to doe were taken and imprisoned and in danger of death by many grievous threatnings of the said goldsmiths who had sealed severally divers obligations as their poore companions had done before to cause that the said poore Goldsmiths should not buy nor sell to any Merchant Cutteller Ieweller Vphoulster nor to any other forraigner nor Denizen any goods of their working except they sold the same at a treble value and that none of them should carry gilt nor any other thing of gold or silver to any Ladie or other person to make profit thereof and if they did that the paine comprised in the said Obligations should incurre upon them as before the major Sheriffe and Aldermen of the s●id Citie as by the confessions of the said rich Goldsmiths it was proved wherupon it was unreasonably debated so that it was put by good mediation and advice to the said Maior and many of the Aldermen of the City the said rich and poore Goldsmiths put themselves in Arbitrement of three good men for a finall accord of all the debates and quarrells betweene themselves which Arbitrators assented upon certaine points rehearsed to the parties aforesaid and ordained the same points to be affirmed and inrolled in the Parliament for ever and thereupon the said parties were released But notwithstanding this Agreement the said rich Goldsmiths would not assent nor suffer that the s●id points bee inrolled and holden as the said Arbitrators adjudged And furthermore by their procurement many mischiefs doe from day to day arise to the wrong of the said poore Commoners so farre as they are like to be undone which God defend and have purchased likewise a new Charter against the said agreement to the great decay and hurt of the said poore Commons may it please you thrice gracious Lords to ordaine and command that the said Accord b●e affirmed and holden finally for good and that the said Charter and other things tending to the prejudice and losse of the said poore Goldsmiths bee made voide for Gods sake and in the worke of Charity And thereupon the said Iohn Chichester and Iohn Botesham and many other Goldsmi●hs of London came i● Parliament and havi●g heard the said Bill it was forthwith demanded of the said William Fitz-Hugh if hee would maintaine the said Bill and finde pledge to doe and answer that which the Law demandeth who said that he would doe so but af●erwards he could not bring in his surety nor pleadge to answer the said Bill so was the said William Fitz Hugh commanded to the Tower by the award of the Lords in Parliament Ibidem Anno 41. ITem the said 24. day of Decemb during yet this present Parliament Alice ●ierce was caused to come in the same Parliament before the Prelates and Lords for to answer certaine matters which by Letters should bee surmised against her in the Kings name and thereupon by commandement of the Prelates and Lords of the said Parliament Master Richard Scroope Treasurer Steward of the house of our Lord the King rehearsed in Parliament in the presence of the said Alice an Ordinance made in Parliament holden at Westminster the monday next after the feast of Saint George the yeare of the reigne of the King Vnckle of our Lord the King that now is the 50. in these words For that complaint is made to the King that many women have persued in the Courts of the King divers businesses and quarrells by way of maintenance and to have a share which thing displeaseth the King to defend and that h●nceforth no woman shall doe so and more especially Alice Pierce upon paine of whatsoever the said Alice may forfeit and to be banished out of the Realme and after this rehearsall made the said Steward surmised to the said Alice that it seemed to the Lords of Parliament that she had incurred the paine comprised in the said Ordinance and had forfeited against the said Ordinances in certaine points and more especially in two viz. that she stayed Master Nicholas Dagworth Chancellour when he was ordayned by the Councell of the late King to goe into Ireland for certaine urgent businesses which should have beene profitable to our late King and his Realme the said Alice after the said Ordinance made as aforesaid perswaded the said King in his Court at Havering that at her singular persuit and procurement the said Nicholas was countermanded and his voyage stayed from all that Island to the great dammage of our said late King and his Realme Item That whereas Richard Lions for misprisions w●ereof he was convicted at the said Parliament holden the said 50. yeare of our late King Edward submitted himselfe in the Parliament into the favour of the said King that is to say his Body all his Lands and Tenements and he gave some of them to the Earle of Cambridge and some of them to Master Thomas Woodstock now Earle of Buckingham for terme of their lives the which our late K. after having pitie of the said Richard was willing by the assent of his Councell to shew him favour and to pardon him the Imprisonment of his body and to restore him to certaine of his Lands goods and chattells aforesaid which pardon seemed to our late King and his Councell t● be a grace sufficient notwithstanding the said Alice so perswaded the said late King in his Court at Sheene that by the singular persuit and procurement of the said Alice our late King Edward granted to the said Richard all his Lands goods Tenements and chattels aforesaid together with the said Tenements which hee had given to the said Earles for terme of their lives as before said amongst the same pardoned the said Richard 300. l. of certaine Arrerages due by the said Richard in the Exchequer and also granted him a thousand marks of his Treasure to bee ●eceived of the said Ladie which persuit and procurement are contrary to the Ordinance aforesaid And the said Steward demanded of the said Alice how she would excuse her selfe of those Articles which Alice did answer and say that she was not guilty of those Articles and that she is ready to shew and prove by the Testimony of the said Master Iohn Ipr● then Steward of the said King Edward William Street then controller of his house Allen Buxall