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A76800 The storming of Antichrist, in his two last and strongest garrisons; of compulsion of conscience, and infants babptisme [sic]. Wherein is set down a way and manner for cburch [sic] constitution; together with markes to know right constituted churches, from all other societies in the world. Also the cruelty inequality and injustice of compulsion for conscience, by 29. arguments is opened; with an answer to 26. objections brought for the same. Also 12. arguments against the baptizing of infants; with an answer to 26. objections brought for the same. Wherein is displayed to the view of all, from the testimonies of Scriptures, Fathers, councels; the mischiefs, uncertainties, novelties, and absudities [sic] that do attend the same. Wherein is answered the most valid arguments brought by St. Martiall, in his sermon preached in the Abbey Church at Westminister, for the defence hereof. With an answer to Mr. Blake his arguments, in his book cald Birth-priviledge; and to the arguments of divers others. As also a catechisme, wherein is cleerely opened the doctrine of baptisme, together with a resolution of divers questions and cases of conscience, about baptisme. Written by Ch. Blackwood, out of his earnest desire he hath to a thorow reformation, having formerly seen the mischiefs of half reformations. Blackwood, Christopher. 1644 (1644) Wing B3103; Thomason E22_15; ESTC R7842 101,204 126

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of the sea upon dry ground so that the Israelites were Baptized spiritually in the cloud and sea because for the miracles which they saw in the cloud and sea they beleeved we see there unbeleefe vers 11.12 Because there were no graves in Egypt hast thou taken us to die in the wildernesse and vers 19. We see the pillar of the cloud stand behinde them and vers 20. It was a cloud and darknesse to them but gave light to those and vers 21.22 Moses stretched out his hand over the sea and the Lord caused the sea to goe backe all that night and made the sea dry land and the children of Israel went into the midst of the sea and the same sea swallowed up the Egyptians vers 23.24.25.26.27.28 When they saw the cloud thus over them and the sea giving them passage it s said vers 31. The people feared the Lord and beleeved the Lord and his servant Moses So that their being b●ptized is Metophoricall as Mat. 20. Can ye be baptized with the baptisme I am baptized with They were baptized that is seeing the cloud over them a signe of Gods presence and the sea thus divided they were Baptized that is clensed from their ignorance security impenitency and unbeleefe 2 If baptizing unto Moses were a type of our Baptisme and that as all were baptized then so all should be Baptized now then Manna the spirituall food they eat and water out of the rocke the spirituall drinke they dranke should be types of the Lords Supper and in the same latitude and so all persons must be admitted to the Lords Supper as all Israel were to the eating of Manna and drinking water but our godly brethren among the Paedobaptists doe generally explode this therefore the other the thing typified by the Manna and rocke was not the Sacrament of the Lords Supper but Christ they dranke of that spirituall rocke Sacramento tenus as Austin speakes which followed them and that rocke was Christ it hath been an errour as I suppose to make one type to typifie another 3 Whereas some bring this place to prove thousands of infants were Baptized in the sea I aske whether the Baptisme of Christ and the Apostles were instituted under the old Testament If not then in vaine is this alledge Object 14. Lydia and all her family was Baptized but it is not said her family beleeve therefore its lawfull for persons to be baptized although they doe not beleeve Answ 1. Lydia and her family were baptized as Christ commanded else Paul had contemned an ordinance of God 2 It s absurd to Baptize any one in the faith of their master or mistresse I ask those that hold infants baptisme whether they would baptize all the servants of a Turke if he should beleeve though the servants did not beleeve 3 Hard Scriptures are to be expounded by easie Nehe. 8.8 But in the same chapter the Jailour and all his house beleeved and then were baptized Acts 16 32.34 ●8 8 Object 15. There are but two kingdomes families cities housholds Mr. M. page 9.14 vers 2. Gods and the devils if infants be not of Gods family Kingdome houshold then are they of the devils which is uncharitable to thinke Answ 1. It s true in respect of election and reprobation there are but two Kingdomes families and to one of these all infants doe belong but election and reprobation being secret things there no Church can tell whom elect or reprobate that they may receive one infant and refuse another and without grounds of receiving they are not to dispence this ordinance Acts 8.37.10.47 2. The objection places all infants in one state that they are all either of Gods kingdome or Satans kingdome whereas the Scripture places them of two severall kingdomes as we see in Jacob and Esau Rom 9. and the greater number grow up and go the broad way 3 But if by kingdome city family houshold they meane the visible Church and then if because infants are not of this then are they of the devils kingdom we deny the consequence for first many are of this kingdome who are notwithstanding of the devils kingdome as Ishmael Magus 2. Many are not of this kingdome who yet notwithstanding are of Gods kingdome as Iob and Iacob before he was borne and had done either good or evill before he was circumcised nay borne it was said Iacob have I loved and so he belonged to Gods Kingdome of glory yet was he not of any visible Church as being uncircumcised Obiect 16. As the childe is borne free by the fathers freedome Mr. M. page 15. and others so if God take the father into Covenant he takes the children in with him and if he reject the parents the children are cast out with them As the son of a Priest or Levite the son of a state officer by birth hath right to his fathers office so in this case God takes the father and children into the same Covenant Answ 1. There can no argument be drawen from symbolicall divinity 2. No childe of a beleever is borne in the same priviledge of adoption wherein his father is invested as he is a childe to such a father for them all the children would be so borne if by covenant we meane the covenant of grace no beleever is borne in this being we all are by nature the children of wrath much lesse can the children be borne in any such cov nant But if the objector meane it of some ou●ward covenant that is in●ig●tment to Church priviledge that by the fathers inrightment hereto the child should be inrighted I answer first they must show some copie that by the fathers inrightment in Church priviledges all his children ar● inrighted for that Acts 3.38 and Gen. 17.7 we have answereed before beleevers under the gospel are Abrahams seed Rom. 9. Gal. 7 29. Not children of beleevers of whose being Abrahams seed the scripture speakes not a word 2. If by this outward Covenant the children by Gods taking the the father into covenant be inrighted into the church priviledge of baptisme then are they in righted into the Church priviledge of the Supper being there is one communion in both and so by consequent are inrighted to that which brings judgement to many of them which are wicked 3. Baptisme is not a signe of any such inrightment but of our fellowship with Christ in his death buriall resurrection 4 For these three instances of a childe being free by his fathers freedome and the son of a Levite to be a Levite and the son of a state officer to succeed in his fathers office they had patents for these either in divine writ or humaine ordinances now let these objectors produce if they can that there is any patent in scripture that the children of those beleevers whose parents pertake in ordinances shall also pertake therein that the children of him that is baptized shall also be baptized Obiect But the children of all them that were circumcised were
are either Ministers or people if Ministers then there 's a wo unto them if they do not declare what they think tru●h 1 Cor 9 ●6 Wo unto me if I preach not the Gospell Acts 5 20 Go into the Temple and speak all the words of this life Else may there be guilt of the blood of souls Acts 20 26 27. If people they are bound to strengthen others themselves being converted Luk. 22 32. So did the woman of Samaria Joh. 4.29 come see a man that told me all that ever I did is not this the Christ Though the Samaritans generally were of another belief before as appears v. 39.41 Objection But is it not lawfull to reduce seduced persons to the truth Answer Yes but not by carnall weapons of clubs fines banishment 2 Cor. 10.4 the weapons of our warfare are not carnall but mighty through God to the casting down of strong holds and imaginations and every thing that exalts it self against the knowledge of God among which is Heresie for one and bringing into captivitie every thought to the obedience of Christ 2 Violence never made any man cordially to close with any Religion though it hath forced the outward man Obj●ction Though men be forced to embrace a religion against their wils yet after they come to approve it and will not come to another Answer The accidentall good that fell out cannot make lawfull the evill upon which they ventured 2 Such men as do thus comply against conscience they are usually made twofold more the children of hell then formerly though there may be a different issue in some Objection Many ignorant souls hereby will be in danger of being seduced by Popish Priests and other Sectary Teachers Ans 1. Better sometimes a mischief then alwayes an inconvenience 2 These ignorant persons thus wrought on by tampering would in such variety of judgements try all sides especially when there were freedome herein to reason and debate 3 Hereby many weak ones among the Papists were in likelihood to be gained from them yea far more then the Protestants would in likelihood lose 4 Gods wayes are alwaies the safest and that which most concernes his own glory Objection Esay 49.23 Kings shall be thy thy nursing Fathers and Queenes thy nursing Mothers therefore Kings and Princes may imploy their compulsory power for the nourishing of the church Answer We deny the consequence For 1. The scope of the place is that Gods people being in Captivity thought God had forgotten and forsaken them Vers 14 God tels them he had not nor could not vers 15. He had graven them upon the palmes of his hands and their walls were alwaies before him vers 16. and told them that their builders make haste and their destroyers should depart far from them vers 17. and though vers 19. their desolations were great and their land desert yet shortly the inhabitants should be so many The Lord tels them of the two causes hereof ● efficient vers 22. that the land should be too straite for them verse 20. hence the people of Israel fall to wonder that their number should so multiplie vers 21. enquires how it should be to which the Lord answers vers 22. I will lift up my hand to the Nations q d it shall be my worke there shall sundry of the Gentiles shall come into them as proselites and not onely themselves but they shall also bring their children in their armes and upon their shoulders with them 2 The second or inferiour meanes of this inlargement shall be this 2 Instrumentall v 2● Kings shall be thy nursing Fathers and Queenes thy nursing Mothers verse 23. as Cyrus Darius Queene Hester Artaxerxes c. for that he speakes of deliverance out of Babylon appeares in the two next verses shall the prey bee taken from the strong or the lawfull captive delivered c. 2 Suppose it were a prophesie of Kings and Queenes under the Gospell yet may Kings and Queenes be nursing Fathers and nursing Mothers by countenancing and contributing towards religion and the maintenance and professours thereof by improving all their credit and state towards the good of Gods people and so the prophesie is fulfilled in what it holds forth without Princes vsing any coercive power in the behalfe thereof 3 The very similitude of a nursing Father and nursing mother holds not forth to us violence or compulsion but kindnesse and love such as the loving nurse useth towards the tender babes little did the holy ghost using such a similitude of love and kindenesse think that men would pervert it to violence and constraint 4 Compulsorie power of princes and states is so far from nourishing of the churches that it hath destroyed many both in body and soule in body whiles much Christian blood ●ath been shed whiles each man hath with his blood defended his own tenents and in soule whiles many have complied for fear of the Magistrate to do things not onely with doubting consciences which is damnable Rom 14.23 Hee that doubteth is damned if he eate but even against conscience which is much more damnable This compulsorie power may worship a glorious uniformitie and make pompous and Populous assemblies but all this while many a one goes on with a griping unsatisfied conscience whose light is one waies and their practise forced to be another or else they must ruine themselves wives and children Princes by this compulsion may be nursing Fathers to the Parochiall ministers by increasing of their maintenance but whether they Will bee stepfathers hereby to tender consciences I leave it to inquirie Objection Let every soule be subj ct to the Highest powers Rom. 13.1 Answer The apostle meanes in civill things not spirituall For 1. Had the Apostle meant spirituall things or matters of conscience then Nero and the Magistrates that then lived might have compelled the Christians to have worshipped the Sun and in case of refusall might have punished them 2 Then had the Apostles sinned in refusing to be subject to the Magistrate herein When they said wee ought to obey God rather then men Frivoulous is that distinction which is made betwixt Magistrate Christian and not Christian For 1. What power any Magistrate receives from God as a Magistrate every Magistrate receives the same 2 The Scripture doth not make one rule for the Magistrates that lived in Pauls time who were Heathens and another rule for the Magistrates that lived in Constantines time most whereof were Christians but one and the same rule is set down towards all Magistrates qua tales and this distinction hath beene made politickly by Divines at first who had the same Magistrates on their side and seconded by others who either had the same codition or through a passive vnderstanding did embrace former tenent without Examination Objection Apoc. 17.16 It s said the ten Hornes which thou sawest upon the Beast these shall hate the Whore and shal make her desolate and naked and shall eate her flesh and burne her