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A51131
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The case of Ireland's being bound by acts of Parliament in England stated by William Molyneux.
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Molyneux, William, 1656-1698.
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1698
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Wing M2402; ESTC R30063
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the_o people_n of_o ireland_n if_o it_o be_v not_o then_o certain_o my_o lord_n cook_n be_v parenthesis_n be_v to_o no_o purpose_n and_o it_o be_v a_o wonder_n to_o i_o that_o so_o many_o man_n have_v run_v upon_o this_o vain_a imagination_n mere_o from_o the_o assertion_n of_o this_o judge_n for_o i_o challenge_v any_o man_n to_o show_v i_o that_o any_o one_o before_o he_o or_o any_o one_o since_o but_o from_o he_o have_v vend_v this_o doctrine_n and_o if_o the_o bare_a assertion_n of_o a_o judge_n shall_v bind_v a_o whole_a nation_n and_o dissolve_v the_o right_n and_o liberty_n thereof_o we_o shall_v make_v their_o tongue_n very_o powerful_a and_o constitute_v they_o great_a lawgiver_n than_o the_o great_a senate_n i_o do_v not_o see_v why_o my_o deny_v it_o shall_v not_o be_v as_o authentic_a as_o his_o affirm_v it_o it_o be_v true_a he_o be_v a_o great_a lawyer_n and_o a_o powerful_a judge_n but_o have_v no_o more_o authority_n to_o make_v a_o law_n than_o i_o or_o any_o man_n 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their_o expedition_n he_o obtain_v from_o earl_n richard_n strongbow_n a_o surrender_n of_o dublin_n with_o the_o cantred_n adjoin_v and_o all_o the_o maritine_n town_n and_o castle_n but_o strongbow_n and_o his_o heir_n be_v to_o enjoy_v the_o residue_n of_o dermot_n principality_n king_n hen._n ii_o land_a at_o waterford_n he_o from_o milford_n in_o pembrookshire_n and_o stay_v there_o some_o few_o day_n say_v giraldus_n cambrensis_fw-la rex_fw-la corcagiensis_n dormitius_fw-la advenit_fw-la ei_fw-la &_o tam_fw-la subjectionis_fw-la vinculo_fw-la quam_fw-la fidelitatis_fw-la sacramento_n regi_fw-la anglorum_fw-la se_fw-la sponte_fw-la submisit_fw-la he_o free_o swear_v fealty_n and_o subjection_n to_o the_o king_n of_o england_n from_o thence_o he_o go_v to_o lismore_n and_o thence_o to_o cashel_n where_o dunaldus_fw-la king_n of_o lymerick_n se_fw-la quoque_fw-la fidelem_fw-la regi_fw-la exhibuit_fw-la the_o like_a do_v all_o the_o nobility_n and_o prince_n in_o the_o south_n of_o 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vel_fw-la ominis_fw-la erat_fw-la qui_fw-la regiae_n majestati_fw-la &_o debitam_fw-la domino_fw-la reverentiam_fw-la non_fw-la exhiberet_fw-la the_o same_o relation_n we_o have_v from_o roger_n hoveden_n annal._n parsposter_n fol._n 301._o about_o the_o kalend_n of_o november_n 1172._o say_v he_o king_n henry_n ii_o of_o england_n take_v ship_n for_o ireland_n at_o milford_n and_o land_a at_o waterford_n &_o ibi_fw-la venerunt_fw-la ad_fw-la eum_fw-la rex_fw-la corcagiensis_n rex_fw-la de_fw-fr lymerick_n rex_fw-la de_fw-fr oxenie_n rex_fw-la midiae_fw-la &_o fere_n omnes_fw-la hiberniae_fw-la potentes_fw-la and_o a_o little_a afterward_o in_o the_o same_o place_n speak_v of_o king_n henry_n the_o second_v be_v at_o waterford_n ibidem_fw-la venerunt_fw-la ad_fw-la regem_fw-la angliae_fw-la omnes_fw-la archiepiscopi_fw-la episcopi_fw-la &_o abbate_v totius_fw-la hiberniae_fw-la &_o receperunt_fw-la eum_fw-la in_o regem_fw-la &_o dominum_fw-la hiberniae_fw-la jurantes_fw-la ei_fw-la &_o 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