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An argument in defence of the right of patrons to advousons. And incidently of the right of tythes in generall. As it was delivered to the committee for tythes, on Wednesday the 14 of September 1653 and taken exactly by one that hath skill in tachygraphy or the art of short-writing
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Nortcliffe, Counsellor.
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Wing N1279; Thomason E713_14; ESTC R207166
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of_o a_o high_a nature_n that_o he_o may_v try_v it_o again_o there_o be_v a_o juris_fw-la utrum_fw-la there_o be_v a_o quare_fw-la impedit_fw-la a_o darrein_a presentment_n a_o quare_fw-la non_fw-la admisit_fw-la a_o quare_fw-la incumbravit_fw-la a_o vi_o laica_fw-la amovenda_fw-la thus_o you_o see_v the_o law_n like_o a_o wise_a physician_n prescribe_v these_o several_a remedy_n for_o the_o several_a obstruction_n which_o may_v happen_v in_o the_o patron_n right_a in_o advousons_n i_o may_v draw_v a_o argument_n from_o the_o topick_n of_o good_a plead_n for_o mr_n littleton_n and_o my_o lord_n cook_n in_o his_o book_n of_o entry_n say_v that_o such_o a_o one_o be_v seize_v of_o his_o advouson_n ut_fw-la de_fw-la feodo_fw-la &_o de_fw-la jure_fw-la as_o of_o his_o fee_n and_o of_o right_a the_o original_n of_o advouson_n come_v either_o as_o they_o be_v founder_n or_o benefactor_n to_o they_o as_o appeareth_z in_o cook_n in_o his_o first_o institutes_n fol._n 17._o b._n or_o else_o by_o purchase_n from_o the_o crown_n upon_o valuable_a consideration_n i_o must_v confess_v that_o no_o patron_n can_v take_v money_n for_o present_v to_o a_o benefice_n it_o be_v simony_n if_o he_o shall_v and_o therefore_o cook_n in_o his_o first_o institute_n say_v that_o a_o guardian_n in_o soccage_n can_v present_v to_o a_o benefice_n because_o he_o can_v take_v money_n for_o it_o and_o he_o ought_v by_o the_o law_n to_o give_v a_o account_n to_o the_o infant_n but_o the_o same_o author_n say_v that_o the_o patron_n may_v present_v his_o son_n si_fw-mi persona_fw-la idonea_fw-la sit_fw-la and_o this_o will_v be_v a_o good_a provision_n of_o the_o father_n for_o the_o young_a son_n portion_n and_o therefore_o in_o a_o eye_n and_o respect_n to_o this_o the_o law_n look_v upon_o a_o advouson_n as_o asset_n fleta_n lib._n 2._o c._n 65._o britton_n 185._o 5_o h._n 7.37_o 32_o h._n 6._o fol._n 21._o 33_o ed._n 3._o garrante_fw-fr 102._o therefore_o the_o law_n in_o a_o eye_n and_o respect_n to_o this_o give_v the_o patron_n damage_n if_o he_o be_v disseise_v or_o out_v of_o his_o advouson_n as_o appear_v by_o the_o stat._n 18_o ed._n 1._o but_o why_o go_v lso_o far_o in_o this_o thing_n that_o be_v so_o plain_a to_o add_v more_o be_v but_o nodum_fw-la in_o scyrpo_fw-it â—uerere_fw-la or_o to_o light_v a_o candle_n at_o the_o noonday_n i_o come_v next_o to_o the_o purchaser_n of_o fee-farm_n rent_n for_o if_o the_o subject_n be_v take_v away_o the_o adjunct_n must_v needs_o follow_v accessorium_fw-la sequitur_fw-la suum_fw-la principale_a if_o you_o take_v away_o tithe_n from_o parson_n as_o they_o have_v no_o right_a to_o they_o these_o rent_n which_o they_o have_v grant_v out_o of_o tithe_n must_v fall_v to_o the_o ground_n and_o vanish_v with_o they_o if_o tenant_n in_o tail_n infeoff_v his_o son_n within_o age_n and_o the_o son_n at_o full_a age_n grant_v a_o rent-charge_n out_o of_o the_o land_n and_o then_o father_n tenant_n in_o tail_n die_v the_o son_n be_v by_o this_o remit_v and_o the_o estate_n out_o of_o which_o the_o rent_n be_v grant_v be_v go_v the_o rent_n be_v go_v also_o cook_n first_o institutes_n fol._n 310._o m._n littl._n sect._n 5_o 28._o tell_v we_o if_o a_o parson_n of_o a_o church_n charge_v the_o glebe_n of_o the_o church_n by_o his_o deed_n and_o after_o the_o patron_n and_o ordinary_n confirm_v the_o say_a grant_n than_o the_o grant_n shall_v stand_v in_o its_o force_n but_o in_o this_o case_n it_o behove_v that_o the_o patron_n have_v a_o fee-simple_n in_o the_o advouson_n for_o if_o he_o have_v but_o a_o estate_n for_o life_n or_o in_o tail_n in_o the_o advouson_n than_o the_o grant_n shall_v not_o stand_v but_o during_o his_o life_n and_o the_o life_n of_o the_o parson_n which_o grant_v so_o that_o by_o this_o you_o may_v see_v that_o the_o patron_n have_v a_o individed_a and_o joint_a estate_n in_o the_o glebe_n with_o the_o parson_n the_o patron_n and_o parson_n by_o this_o you_o may_v see_v be_v more_o seize_v per_n my_o &_o per_fw-la tout_fw-fr of_o the_o glebe_n than_o jointenant_n be_v of_o any_o other_o estate_n for_o jointenant_fw-fr have_v moity_n in_o judgement_n of_o law_n which_o may_v be_v extend_v or_o a_o fine_a or_o partition_n sue_v of_o it_o but_o patron_n and_o parson_n have_v such_o indistinct_a fee_n in_o the_o glebe_n as_o if_o land_n be_v give_v to_o baron_n &_o feme_fw-fr and_o their_o heir_n here_o be_v no_o moity_n for_o husband_n and_o wife_n be_v but_o one_o person_n in_o law_n you_o may_v see_v also_o by_o this_o that_o the_o parson_n patron_n and_o ordinary_a concurrentibus_fw-la his_fw-la may_v grant_v rent-charge_n out_o of_o the_o glebe_n and_o if_o you_o will_v allow_v the_o patron_n and_o parson_n no_o right_n than_o those_o purchaser_n of_o those_o rent_n which_o be_v many_o hundred_o in_o this_o commonwealth_n must_v lose_v their_o bargain_n upon_o valuable_a consideration_n which_o the_o law_n do_v then_o allow_v they_o to_o make_v likewise_o there_o be_v many_o other_o which_o have_v extend_v parson_n tithe_n upon_o debt_n and_o give_v money_n for_o lease_n of_o they_o by_o way_n of_o fine_a before_o hand_n these_o will_v also_o be_v defraud_v i_o shall_v not_o mention_v impropriation_n but_o hint_n you_o of_o a_o passage_n in_o the_o last_o parliament_n when_o bishop_n be_v to_o be_v purge_v out_o of_o the_o house_n of_o lord_n one_o lord_n stand_v up_o and_o say_v shall_v we_o agree_v to_o this_o vote_n we_o stand_v upon_o the_o same_o foundation_n with_o they_o we_o shall_v be_v wound_v through_o their_o side_n et_fw-la proximus_fw-la ardet_fw-la vcaligon_n our_o turn_n will_v be_v next_o and_o so_o it_o prove_v these_o inconvenience_n you_o see_v will_v follow_v the_o cord_n and_o bond_n of_o the_o usage_n under_o the_o law_n and_o gospel_n with_o the_o concurrence_n of_o all_o nation_n will_v be_v break_v the_o common_a law_n and_o custom_n law_n will_v be_v infringe_v thus_o the_o statute_n law_n and_o magna_fw-la charta_fw-la will_v be_v violate_v the_o right_a and_o fee_n of_o modus_fw-la decimandi_fw-la will_v be_v entrench_v upon_o the_o propriety_n that_o patron_n have_v in_o advousons_n and_o in_o tithe_n will_v be_v trample_v upon_o fee-farm_n rent_n which_o man_n have_v hazard_v to_o buy_v to_o assist_v this_o commonwealth_n with_o money_n will_v be_v extinct_a former_a purchaser_n also_o of_o rent_n out_o of_o the_o parson_n glebe_n will_v be_v merge_v also_o these_o with_o many_o other_o inconvenience_n which_o the_o frailty_n of_o man_n can_v conceive_v at_o present_a only_o the_o midwife_n of_o time_n and_o expetience_n must_v bring_v forth_o will_v follow_v if_o this_o law_n of_o tithe_n receive_v a_o alteration_n and_o therefore_o lycurgus_n when_o he_o alter_v any_o law_n he_o exercise_v it_o in_o his_o own_o family_n twelve_o year_n first_o to_o see_v what_o inconvenience_n will_v happen_v upon_o it_o before_o he_o will_v command_v it_o to_o be_v obey_v abroad_o i_o hope_v therefore_o that_o you_o see_v the_o right_a of_o tithe_n and_o patron_n in_o advousons_n you_n will_v make_v a_o far_a law_n to_o strengthen_v they_o and_o i_o hope_v tithe_n seem_v shatter_v like_o a_o break_a leg_n you_o will_v unite_v they_o by_o a_o future_a provision_n that_o they_o will_v stand_v the_o firm_a ever_o after_o finis_fw-la
the_o law_n and_o gospel_n by_o the_o concurrence_n of_o all_o nation_n by_o the_o common_a law_n by_o the_o custom_n law_n of_o the_o land_n but_o they_o be_v also_o due_a by_o statute-law_n and_o the_o spiritual_a right_n of_o they_o as_o it_o be_v wave_v and_o make_v temporal_a by_o several_a act_n of_o parliament_n to_o begin_v with_o magna-charta_a the_o begin_n and_o fountain_n of_o all_o our_o law_n the_o birthright_n of_o the_o freeborn_a people_n of_o england_n the_o pale_a and_o bounder_n of_o the_o people_n from_o the_o tyranny_n of_o king_n and_o userper_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v always_o struggle_v by_o the_o people_n to_o be_v confirm_v by_o all_o king_n and_o so_o it_o be_v 32_o several_a time_n this_o magnacharta_n be_v so_o many_o several_a time_n confirm_v by_o so_o many_o wise_a parlement_n that_o my_o lord_n cook_n in_o his_o second_o institutes_n upon_o this_o say_v that_o all_o statute_n make_v against_o it_o be_v void_a and_o this_o statute_n this_o magna-charta_a the_o good_a people_n of_o england_n birthright_n this_o do_v establish_v tithe_n other_o statute_n have_v be_v make_v as_o the_o 28_o of_o ed_n the_o first_o cap._n 13._o statute_n since_o the_o bless_a reformation_n and_o cast_v off_o of_o the_o popish_a yoke_n tithe_n be_v make_v temporal_a and_o recoverable_a in_o common_a law_n court_v by_o 27_o of_o hen_n 8._o the_o 31_o &_o 32_o sta_n of_o hen_n the_o 8._o the_o first_o of_o ed_n the_o 6._o ch_z the_o 2_o of_o ed_n the_o 6._o ch_z the_o 13._o and_o the_o statute_n in_o the_o late_a parliament_n thus_o you_o see_v how_o all_o parliament_n have_v be_v tender_a of_o tithe_n nay_o do_v so_o much_o favour_v tithe_n that_o they_o give_v they_o better_o remedy_n than_o other_o freehold_n or_o inheritance_n they_o give_v they_o treble_a damage_n objection_n but_o some_o will_v say_v that_o we_o will_v pay_v no_o tyth_n they_o be_v superstitious_a answer_n it_o will_v receive_v this_o answer_n that_o the_o statute_n make_v since_o hen_n the_o 8._o and_o the_o cast_n off_o the_o popish_a yoke_n and_o all_o superstitious_a use_n forfeit_v to_o the_o king_n yet_o these_o tithe_n of_o the_o parson_n stand_v firm_a and_o adjudge_v not_o superstitious_a as_o appear_v in_o the_o bish_n of_o canterbery_n case_n and_o the_o bish_n of_o winchester_n case_n in_o cook_n second_o report_n i_o need_v not_o put_v you_o in_o mind_n of_o the_o several_a act_n of_o the_o late_a parliament_n be_v so_o fresh_a in_o your_o memory_n other_o will_v object_v that_o tithe_n be_v chargeable_a we_o will_v have_v they_o by_o stipend_n true_o i_o think_v they_o can_v be_v less_o for_o they_o be_v common_o but_o 50_o 100_o or_o 200_o pound_n per_fw-la annum_fw-la the_o clergy_n of_o holland_n who_o ape_n we_o seem_v to_o be_v in_o this_o of_o stipend_n allow_v as_o much_o nay_o and_o their_o wife_n and_o child_n provide_v for_o to_o boot_v but_o i_o may_v say_v that_o the_o people_n of_o england_n pay_v no_o tithe_n at_o all_o for_o cook_n in_o his_o first_o institutes_n 58_o say_v that_o all_o the_o land_n in_o england_n be_v the_o king_n demesne_n and_o i_o have_v see_v a_o ancient_a record_n that_o ethelwolph_n the_o second_o monarch_n of_o the_o saxon_a race_n his_o father_n egbert_n be_v the_o first_o that_o bring_v the_o former_a heptarchy_n under_o one_o sole_a prince_n confer_v the_o tithe_n of_o all_o the_o kingdom_n upon_o the_o church_n by_o his_o royal_a charter_n or_o which_o thus_o ingulph_n abbot_n of_o crowland_n and_o old_a saxon_a writer_n king_n ethelwolph_n with_o the_o consent_n of_o his_o prelate_n and_o prince_n which_o rule_v in_o england_n under_o he_o in_o their_o several_a province_n do_v first_o enrich_v the_o church_n of_o england_n with_o the_o tithe_n of_o all_o his_o land_n by_o his_o charter_n royal_a you_o may_v see_v by_o this_o that_o they_o be_v of_o a_o temporal_a constitution_n with_o the_o consent_n of_o his_o prelate_n and_o prince_n and_o that_o the_o case_n be_v no_o more_o than_o this_o john_n astiles_a grant_n a_o rend_a charge_n out_o of_o his_o land_n and_o then_o sell_v i_o the_o land_n i_o hope_v you_o will_v all_o say_v that_o i_o can_v be_v say_v to_o pay_v the_o rend_a charge_n for_o i_o consider_v it_o in_o my_o purchase_n therefore_o thus_o you_o see_v the_o people_n grumble_v and_o complain_v to_o pay_v tithe_n and_o to_o be_v ease_v of_o this_o great_a burden_n when_o as_o indeed_o they_o pay_v none_o at_o all_o some_o will_v say_v they_o be_v burdensome_a to_o pay_v they_o in_o specie_fw-la we_o will_v pay_v they_o by_o stipend_n which_o be_v more_o preporcionable_a and_o more_o easy_a this_o objection_n will_v receive_v this_o answer_n that_o tithe_n be_v more_o easy_a first_o to_o the_o parishoner_v in_o general_a for_o now_o they_o pay_v it_o in_o specie_fw-la than_o they_o will_v pay_v it_o in_o nummis_fw-la numeratis_fw-la and_o i_o know_v that_o the_o countryman_n general_o have_v rather_o pay_v twelve_o penny_n in_o freequarter_n or_o in_o specie_fw-la then_o si_fw-mi penc_n in_o money_n beside_o now_o the_o honest_a parson_n live_v at_o home_n with_o he_o can_v take_v it_o at_o his_o best_a convenience_n but_o the_o collector_n he_o be_v responcible_a to_o the_o treasurer_n who_o expect_v a_o strict_a account_n therefore_o the_o collector_n be_v thus_o a_o stranger_n must_v ask_v and_o have_v or_o else_o distrain_v and_o use_v violence_n i_o be_o sure_a it_o will_v not_o be_v proporcionable_a nor_o easy_a to_o the_o parishioner_n in_o particular_a for_o those_o who_o be_v many_o hundred_o that_o have_v a_o modus_fw-la decimandi_fw-la as_o have_v purchase_v abbey_n land_n which_o by_o order_n of_o cesterciens_fw-fr hospitaller_n be_v free_a from_o pay_v of_o tithe_n or_o by_o the_o statute_n of_o the_o 31_o of_o hen._n 8._o of_o unity_n of_o possession_n pay_v no_o tithe_n or_o by_o real_a composition_n pay_v but_o six_o penny_n for_o 3_o hundred_o pound_n per_fw-la annum_fw-la will_v by_o a_o alteration_n of_o tithing_n to_o a_o stipend_n pay_v twenty_o pound_n per_fw-la annum_fw-la or_o more_o thus_o you_o see_v these_o man_n undoubted_o injure_v by_o this_o alteration_n of_o tithe_n into_o stipend_n the_o parson_n i_o be_o persuade_v will_v not_o consent_v to_o the_o alteration_n of_o tithe_n into_o stipend_n for_o now_o he_o have_v his_o tithe_n at_o home_n and_o pay_v himself_o he_o can_v keep_v as_o much_o of_o they_o as_o will_v keep_v his_o house_n without_o send_v to_o the_o market_n the_o rest_n he_o may_v let_v his_o neighbour_n have_v a_o good_a bargain_n in_o and_o so_o maintain_v a_o love_n and_o correspondency_n with_o his_o neighbour_n and_o receive_v his_o money_n at_o home_n when_o his_o neighbour_n can_v best_o spare_v he_o it_o but_o if_o he_o have_v his_o maintenance_n in_o stipend_n and_o receive_v it_o of_o treasurer_n he_o must_v often_o be_v interrupt_v in_o his_o study_n in_o make_v many_o journey_n to_o he_o and_o many_o of_o they_o will_v prove_v bootless_a for_o the_o treasurer_n will_v say_v i_o be_o busy_a or_o money_n be_v not_o come_v in_o or_o his_o better_n must_v be_v pay_v before_o he_o with_o many_o other_o delay_n which_o none_o but_o those_o that_o be_v acquaint_v with_o receive_v money_n of_o public_a treasury_n can_v imagine_v some_o i_o know_v have_v be_v compound_v out_o of_o half_a their_o pay_n because_o they_o have_v not_o money_n to_o stay_v in_o town_n for_o their_o pay_n or_o because_o their_o present_a occasion_n necessitate_v they_o to_o it_o but_o i_o have_v be_v too_o much_o transport_v with_o my_o zeal_n in_o speak_v too_o long_o of_o the_o justice_n in_o right_a of_o tithe_n i_o shall_v make_v you_o amends_o in_o speak_v less_o of_o the_o right_n of_o advousons_n and_o fee-farm_n issue_v out_o of_o appropriate_v tithe_n have_v make_v the_o porch_n big_a than_o the_o house_n first_o for_o advousons_n i_o shall_v maintain_v that_o if_o tithe_n be_v take_v away_o the_o patron_n will_v lose_v his_o right_n of_o present_v and_o his_o right_n in_o tithe_n and_o that_o he_o have_v as_o good_a a_o estate_n in_o it_o as_o any_o other_o man_n have_v in_o his_o other_o land_n and_o possesrion_n and_o in_o this_o i_o speak_v but_o my_o lord_n cook_n be_v word_n in_o his_o first_o institutes_n fol._n 17._o b._n my_o lord_n cook_n do_v ground_n himself_o upon_o very_a many_o good_a authority_n in_o the_o law_n as_o 7_o ed._n 3.63_o 24_o ed._n 3._o fol._n 34._o h._n 6.34_o 19_o ed._n 3._o quare_fw-la impedit_fw-la 154._o mirror_n cap._n 3._o sect._n 17._o dyer_n 83._o i_o shall_v prove_v it_o also_o by_o writ_n out_o of_o the_o register_n a_o rescriptis_fw-la valet_fw-la argumentum_fw-la as_o first_o the_o writ_n of_o right_n of_o advouson_n when_o the_o patron_n lose_v by_o default_n this_o be_v a_o writ_n