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A94178 A loyall subjects beliefe, expressed in a letter to Master Stephen Marshall, Minister of Finchingfield in Essex, from Edward Symmons a neighbour minister, occasioned by a conference betwixt them. With the answer to his objections for resisting the Kings personall will by force of armes. And, the allegation of some reasons why the authors conscience cannot concurre in this way of resistance with some of his brethren. Symmons, Edward. 1643 (1643) Wing S6345; Thomason E103_6; ESTC R212787 94,533 112

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these darke and crypticke Cavernes and I finde him in Gods booke bidding mee looke about and aske for the old way which is the good way the old exposition is the best which is this Jer. 6.16 By every soule is to be understood every man with all that belongs unto him and by Higher power is meant not onely the power it selfe but also the person excerciseing the same for as 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 signifies the power so 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 notes the person yea the superiority of the person and gives the power the denomination of Higher so that we must not only be subject to the Power because a power but also to the same because an Higher power in which respect every inferiour not only soule but also power must be subject to that power which is higher then it selfe And the King being the supreame person under God hath therefore in these his Dominions the Highest power and may be call'd without any great impropriety of speech as he is Gods immediate deputy on earth the Highest power If any * The Author of the Pamphlet called the Glorious name of God c. pag. 122. 1. Peter ● enemy of Regall Authority shall object and say though the King indeed be supreame the Apostle Peter speakes it too plainely to be denied yet in the same place the King is made an ordinance of man and therefore to be limited by man Calvin on the place answers Dicitur humana ordinatio non quòd Humanitùs inventa fuerit sed quòd propria Hominum est degesta ordinata vivendi ratio 't is call'd an humane ordination not because 't is mans invention but because ordained of God for the good and conservation of men or because executed by man and about the government of mankind But Sir I returne to your selfe that this which I have given is the true meaning of that place to the Romanes the text it selfe doth evidence for what is called the Higher power in the first verse is call'd the ruler and the Minister of God v. 3. which imply the person as well as the Authority now saies the Apostle this Higher power must not be resisted viz. by any kinde of resistance and his reason is strong for to resist saies he is malum culpae who ever resisteth the power resisteth the ordinance of God and 't is malum poenae too they that resist shall receive to themselves Damnation for si bonus nutritor est tuus saies Augustine si malus tentator tuus est if the ruler be good receive thy nourishment from him with obedience if he be evill receive thy triall by him with patience and so you have my first Script against resistance My second shall be Eccles 8.2 3 4 5. verses Solomon was a wise man and the counsells of such are good I counsell thee saies he ut os Regis observes as the Hebrew hath it that thou observe the mouth of the King Eccels 8 2. c. and that in regard of the oath of God i. e. that oath of Alleageance or subjection which in the name of God with his approbation Subiects have allwaies taken unto their Soveraignes and whereunto God is a witnesse and whereof if broken he will be a severe punisher Be not hasty to go out of his sight that is saies Tremelius ne ab obsequio illius te subducito animo perturbato withdraw not thy selfe from his alleagiance in a discontentednesse of spirit stand not in an evill thing scilicet in perturbatione rebellione quae tibi malum allatura esset in thy sullennesse and rebellion which will bring mischeife upon thee for hee doth what ever pleaseth him it is not thy will and pleasure but the will and pleasure of the Prince that must be done Kings have long hands to reach those that resist them and God doth inable them to have their Will upon such treacherous and disobedient Subiects as will not willingly submit unto it Yea where the word of a King is there is power as to breake the heart of a good Subject into duty Confregit David viros suis verbis 1 Sam. 24.7 sayes the text David brake his men with his words so to blast the conspiracies and to confound the spirits of those that be rebellious for indeed Gods wrath awakened by the breach of oath attends the Kings word to accomplish the same upon resisters And hence is that of Solomon in one place against a King there is no rising up Prov. 30.31 and in another He that provoketh a King to anger by opposing his word Prov. 20.2 or any other way sinneth against his owne soule therefore however for a season the word of a King like that of God be resisted sleighted and contemned yet it shall appeare in the end againe to be a word of power Who may say unto him what doest thou i. e. none hath power to call a King to account save God alone no man hath authority to gainsay him sayes Elihu in Job Is it fit to say to a King thou art wicked Job 34.18 or to Princes ye are ungodly it seemes it was not in those dayes Who so keepeth the Commandement shall feele no evill thing that is the command of God in the first place and then for the oath of Gods sake the command of the King be it dictum or scriptum not contradicting that of God qui rebellaverit ori tuo moriatur said the people to Joshua their Captaine Josh 1.18 Whosoever doth rebell against thy commandement and will not hearken to the words of thy mouth in all that thou commandest he shall be put to death but on the other side He that keepeth the same shall feele no evill thing Sir this is my second Scripture and as I conceive 't is suteable to our present case against resisting the personall will and word of the King More precepts I could give but because examples are most regarded in these dayes I will remember you of some of them In the third place therefore be pleased to thinke of the children of Israel in the land of Egypt and of the manner of their deliverance by the hand of Moses and Aaron It must be confess'd that Pharaoh was a wicked King exercised great tyranny over Gods people then under his subjection and was condemned by Gods expresse word yet being lawfull Magistrate over the Country Moses did not arme the Israelites against him though they were able to make their part good as appeares by their number being six hundred thousand men Exod. 12.37 and Pharaohs confession that they were more and mightier then he and his Egyptians Exod. 1.9 but Continent sese observant Pharaonem obedienter as one sayes they conteined themselves and beseeched him obediently Exod. 2.12 Yea it should seeme that Moses himselfe at first had a fancie that this deliverance should be by way of resistance when hee slew the Egyptian Act. 7.25 for as