is called a courte Baron And to euery fayre market is incident a court that is called a court of Pypowdres And though in some statutes is made meÌ„cion somtyme of the sayd courtes / yet neuertheles of the fyrste Institucion of the sayd courtes and that suche courtes shulde be / there is no statute nor law writteÌ„ in the lawes of Englande And so all the grouÌ„de begynniÌ„g of the sayde courtes depeÌ„de vpoÌ„ the custome of the realme the whiche custome is of so hygh auctoritie that the sayde courtes ne theyr auctorities maye nat be altered / ne theyr names chaunged without Parlyament ⧠Also by the olde custome of the realme no maÌ„ shal be takeÌ„ iÌ„prysoned disseased nor otherwyse destroyed / but he be put to answere by the lawe of the lande this custome is coÌ„fermed by the statute of Magnacarta the .xxvi. chapitre ⧠Also by the olde custome of the realme all men great small shal do receyue Iustice in the kinges courtes / this custome is coÌ„fermed by the statute of Marl the .i. Chapitre ⧠Also by the olde custome of the realme the eldest sone is onely heyre to his auncestour / if there be no sones but doughters then all the doughters shal be heyre so it is of susters other kynneswomen And if there be nother sone / doughter / brother / nor suster / then shall the enheritaunce discende to the nexte kynnesman or kynneswoman of the hole blode to hym that had the enhitauÌ„ce of howe many degrees so euer they be from hym And if there be no heyre generall nor speciall / then the lande shall Eschete to the lorde of whome the lande is holden ⧠Also by the olde custome of the realme landes shall neuer ascende / nor disceÌ„de froÌ„ the sone to the father or mother / nor to any other auncestre in the right lyne / but it shall rather Eschete to the lorde of the fee. ⧠Also if any alyeÌ„ haue a sone that is an alyen after is made Denizyn / hath another sone / after purchaseth laÌ„des and dyed / the yoÌ„ger sone shall enherite as heyr nat the eldest ⧠Also if there be thre bretherne the mydlest brother purchase landes dyed without heyre of his body / the eldest brother shall inheryt as heyre to hym nat the yonger brother ⧠Also if lande in fee symple disceÌ„de to a man by the ê‘re of his father he dyed without heyre of his body / then that inheritaunce shall discende to the next heyre of the parte of his father And if there be no suche heyre of the parte of his father / then if the father purchased the laÌ„des it shal go to the next heyre of the fathers mother / nat to the next heyres of the sonesmother but it shall rather Eschete to the lorde of the fee but if a man purchase laÌ„des to him to his heyres dye without heyre of his body as is sayd before / theÌ„ that laÌ„de shall disceÌ„de to the next heyre of the parte of his father if there be any / if nat then to the next heyre of the parte of his mother ⧠Also if the sone purchaseth laÌ„des iÌ„ fee dye without heyre of his body / the lande shall discende to his vncle shall nat asceÌ„de to his father / but if the father haue a sone thoughe it be many yeres after the deth of the elder brother / yet that sone shal put out his vncle shall enioye the lande as heyre to his elder brother for euer ⧠Also by the custome of the realme the chylde that is borne before spouselles is bastarde shall nat inheryte ⧠Also the custome of the realme is that no maner of goodes nor catalles reall nor parsonell shall neuer go the the heyre / but to the executours / or to the ordinary or administratours ⧠Also the husbande shall haue all the Chatelles parsonelles that his wyfe had at the tyme of the spouselles or after and also Chatelles real if he ouer lyue hê wyfe but if he sell or gyue away the Chatelles realles dye by that sale or gyfte the enterest of the wyfe is determined / els they shall remayne to the wyfe if she ouer lyue her husbande ⧠Also the husbaÌ„de shall haue all the inheritauÌ„ce of his wyfe wherof he was seased in dede in the right of his wyfe during the spouselles in fee or in fee tayle general for terme of lyfe / if he haue any chylde by her to holde as tenaunt by the curtesye of EnglaÌ„de / the wyfe shall haue the thyrde parte of the inheritaunce of her husbande wherof he was seased in dede or in lawe after the spouselles c. but in that case the wyfe at the deth of her husbande muste be of the age of .ix. yere or aboute / or els she shall haue no dowrye ¶ Doctoure what if the husbande at his deth be within the age of .ix. yere ¶ Student I suppose she shall yet haue her dower ⧠Also the olde lawe custome of the realme is that after the deth of euery tenaÌ„te that holdeth his landes by knyghtes seruice the lord shall haue the warde mariage of the heyre tyll the heyre come to the age of .xxi. yere And if the heyre in that case be of full age at the deth of his auncestre / then he shall paye to his lorde his relyefe / whiche at the coÌ„mon lawe was nat certayne / but by the statute of Magna carta / it is put in certayne that is to saye for euery hole knyghtes fee to pay C. sÌ„ And for a hole baronye to pay a. C. marke for relyef And for a hole erledom to pay a. C. li. after the rate And if the heyre of such a tenauÌ„t be a womaÌ„ / she at the dethe of her auncestre be within the age of .xiiii. yeres / then by the coÌ„mon law she shuld haue ben inwarde onely tyll .xiiii. yere / but by the statute of WestmÌ„ the fyrste in suche case she shal be inwarde tyll .xvi. yere And if at the deth of the auncestre she be of the age of .xiiii. yere or aboue / she shal be out of warde / though the laÌ„des be holden of the kynge And theÌ„ she shall pay relyef as an heyre male shall ⧠Also of landes holden in socage if the auncestre dye / his heyre beynge withiÌ„ the age of .xiiii. yeres / the next freÌ„d of the heyt to whome the inheritauÌ„ce may nat discende shall haue the warde of his body landes tyll he shall come to the age of .xiiii. yere / theÌ„ he may entre And wheÌ„ the heyre coÌ„meth to the age of .xxi. yere / theÌ„ the gardeyn shall yelde hym accoÌ„pte for the ê“fettes therof by hym receyued ⧠Also suche an heyre in socage for his relyefe shall double his rent to the lorde the yere folowyng the deth of his auncestre / as if his auÌ„cestre
lysteth may so accompte them / or if he wyll he may take theÌ„ for one grounde after his pleasure / of which maximes I shal hereafter shewe the parte ⧠Fyrst there is a maxime that escuage vncertayne maketh knyghtes seruice ⧠Also there is another maxime that escuage certayne maketh socage ⧠Also that he that holdeth by castelgarde / holdeth by knyghtes seruice / but he holdeth nat by escuage And that he that holdeth by .xx. s. to the garde of a castell holdeth by socage ⧠Also there is a maxime that a disceÌ„t taketh awaye an entre ⧠Also that no prescripcion in laÌ„des maketh a ryght ⧠Also that a prescripcion of rente of profites aprendre out of lande maketh a ryghte ⧠Also that the limitacioÌ„ of a ê‘scripcioÌ„ generally takeÌ„ is froÌ„ the tyme that no maÌ„nes mynde renuyth to the contrarie ⧠Also that assignes may be made vpoÌ„ laÌ„des gyueÌ„ in fee for terme of lyfe / or for tme of yeres though no meÌ„cioÌ„ be made of assignes / the same lawe is of a rent that is grauÌ„ted / but otherwyse it is of a waraÌ„tie of a couenaunte ⧠Also that a condicion to auoyde a freholde can nat be pleaded without dede / but to auoyde a gyft of a chatel it may be pleaded without dede ⧠Also that a release or a confirmacion made by hym that at the tyme of the release or coÌ„firmacion made had no ryghte is voyde in the law / though a righte come to hym after / except it be with warrauÌ„tye / theÌ„ it shall barre hym of all right that he shall haue after the warrauÌ„tye made ⧠Also that a right or title of accioÌ„ that onely dependeth in accion can nat be gyueÌ„ nor graunted to none other but onely to the tenaunt of the grouÌ„de / or to hym that hath the reuercion or remayndre of the same lande ⧠Also that in an accion of dette vpon a contracte the def maye wage his law / but otherwyse it is vpoÌ„ a lease of laÌ„des for terme of yeres or at wyll ⧠Also that if an exigent in case of felonye be awarded agaynste a man he hathe therby forthwith forfeted his goodes to the kynge ⧠Also if the sone be attaiÌ„ted in the lyfe of the father / and after he purchaseth his Chartour of pardon of the kynge / after the father dyed In this case the laÌ„de shall Eschete to the lorde of the fee in so moche that that though he haue a yoÌ„gerbrother yet the laÌ„de shall nat discende to hym / for by the atteyndre of the elder brother the blode is corrupte the father in the lawe dyed without heyre ⧠Also if an Abbot or a Priour alyene the landes of his house dyed / in that case though his successour haue right to the laÌ„de / yet he may nat entre but he muste take his accioÌ„ that is appoynted hiÌ„ by the law ⧠Also there is a maxime iÌ„ the law that if a villayne purchase landes the lord entre / he shall enioye the laÌ„de as his owne / but if the villayne alyene before the lorde entre / that alienacion is good And the same law is of goodes ⧠Also if a maÌ„ stele goodes to the value of .xii. d. or aboue it is felonye / and he shall dye for it And if it be vnder the value of .xii. d. then it is but petite larcinie he shall nat dye for it / but shal be otherwyse punysshed after the discrecioÌ„ of the Iuges except it be takeÌ„ fro the person / for if a maÌ„ take any thynge howe lytell so euer it be / from a maÌ„nes ê‘son felonously / it is called roberye he shall dye for it ⧠Also he that is areyned vpon an InditemeÌ„t of felonie shal be admitted iÌ„ fauoure of lyfe to chaleÌ„ge .xxxv. iurours pereÌ„torily but if he chaleÌ„ge any aboue that nombre / the law taketh hiÌ„ as one that hath refused the law because he hath refused thre hole enquestes / therfore he shal dye but with cause he may chaleÌ„ge as many as he hath cause of chaleÌ„ge to And further it is to be vnderstaÌ„de that suche peremtorie chaleÌ„ge shall nat be admitted in appeale because it is at the suyt of the partie ⧠Also the lande of euery man is in the law enclosed froÌ„ other though it lye iÌ„ the opeÌ„ felde And therfore if a maÌ„ do a trespas theriÌ„ the writ shal be quare clausuÌ„ fregit ⧠Also that reÌ„tes / coÌ„mons of pasture of turbary reuercioÌ„s remayndres / nor suche other thyngê which lye nat in manuell occupacioÌ„ may nat be gyuen nor grauÌ„ted to none other without writtynge ⧠Also that he that recouereth dette or damages in the kynges court by suche an accioÌ„ within a Capias lay in to the ê“cesse may withiÌ„ a yere after the recouerie haue a Capias ad satisfacienduÌ„ to take the bodye of the defendauÌ„t to coÌ„mit hiÌ„ to pryson tyll he haue payd the dette damagê but if there lay no Capias iÌ„ the fyrst accioÌ„ theÌ„ the pleyntyfe shall haue no Capias ad satisfacieÌ„duÌ„ / but muste take a Fierifacias or an Elegit withiÌ„ the yere or a Scire facÌ„ aft the yere or within the yere if he wyll ⧠Also if a release or confirmacioÌ„ be made to hym that at the tyme of the release made had no thynge in the laÌ„de cÌ„ the release or coÌ„firmacioÌ„ is voyde except certaiÌ„ cases as to vouchye certayne other whiche nede nat here to be remembred ⧠Also there is a maxime in the lawe of Englande that the kynge may dissease no maÌ„ / ne that no maÌ„ may dissease the kynge ne pull any reuercyon or remayndre out of hym ⧠Also the kynges excelleÌ„cie is so hygh in the law that no freholde may be gyuen to the kynge ne be deriuied from hym / but by matter of recorde ⧠Also there was somtyme a maxime a lawe in Englande that no man shulde haue a writte of right but by special suyt to the kynge And for a fyne to be made in the ChauÌ„cerie for it / but these maximes be chauÌ„ged by the statute of Magna carta the .xvi. Chapi where it is sayd thus Nulli negabimê° nulli vendemus rectum vel iusticiam And by the wordes nulli negabimus / a maÌ„ shall haue a writte of righte of course in the ChauÌ„cerie without suynge to the kynge for it And by the wordes nulli vendemê° He shall haue it without fyne and so many tymes the olde maximes of the law be chaunged by statutes ⧠Also though it be reasonable that for the many solde diuersities of accions that be in the lawes of Englande / that there shulde be diuersities of processe as in the reale accions after one maner / in personall accions after another maner yet it can nat be proued merely by reason that the same processe ought to be had none other / for by statute it might be altered And so
no more there is of diuersite other estopelles / which were to loÌ„ge to reherce now And yet the partie that may take auantage of such an estopel by the lawe / is bouÌ„de in coÌ„science to forsake that auantage specially if he were so estopped by ignorance / and nat by his owne knowlege assent for thoughe the lawe iÌ„ suche cases gyueth no remedye to hym that is estopped yet the law iugeth nat that the other hath ryght vnto the thynge that is in variaunce bytwyxte them ¶ Also it is vnderstaÌ„de that the lawe is to be lefte for coÌ„scieÌ„ce / where a thynge is tryed fouÌ„de by verdit agaynst the trouth / for in the comon law the iugement muste be gyuen accordynge as it is pleaded tried lyke as it is iÌ„ other lawes / that the iugement muste be gyuen accordynge to that / that is pleaded proued ¶ Also it is vnderstande that the lawe is to be lefte for coÌ„science / where the cause of the lawe doth cease for whan the cause of the lawe dothe cease / the lawe also dothe cease in conscience / as apperyth by this case here after folowynge ☞ Addicion ⧠A man maketh a lease for terme of lyfe / after a stranger doth waste / wherfore the lesse briÌ„geth an accion of TrnÌ„s hath iugemeÌ„t to recouer damagê hauyng regarde to the treble damagê that he shal yelde to hym iÌ„ the reuercion And aft he in the reuercion byfore accion of waste sued dyeth so that the accion of waste is therby extincted / then the tenant for terme of lyfe though he may sue execucion of the sayd iugemeÌ„t by the lawe yet he may nat do it by conscience for in conscience he maye take no more then he is hurted by the sayd trespasse / bycause he is nat chargyd ouer with the treble damages to his lessoure ¶ Also it is vnderstande where a lawe is grounded vpon a presumpcion / for if the presumpcion be vntrue / then the lawe is nat to be holden in coÌ„science And nowe I haue shewed the somwhat howe that question that is to say where the lawe shal be ruled after coÌ„science I pray the shewe me whether there be nat lyke diuersities in other lawes bytwyxte lawe conscience ¶ Docto r Yes verely very many wherof thou haste recyted one byfore / where a thynge that is vntrue is pleaded ê“ued / in whiche case iugement muste be gyuen accordynge as well in the lawe Cyuile as in the lawe Canon And another case is that if the heyre make nat his inuentory / he shal be bounde after the lawe Cyuile to all the dettes though the goodes amount nat to so moche And the lawe Canon is nat agaynste that lawe / and yet in conscience the heyre whiche in the lawes of Englande is called an executour is nat in that case charged to the dettes / but accordiÌ„ge to the value of the goodes And nowe I pray the shewe me some cases where coÌ„scieÌ„ce shal be ruled after the lawe ¶ Stud. I wyll with good wyll shewe the somwhat as me thynketh therin ⧠Here foloweth dyuers cases where conscience is to be orderyd after the lawe The .xx. Chapitre STudent The eldest sone shall haue enioy his father landes at the comon lawe in conscience / as he shall in the lawe And in Burghenglysshe the yonger sone shall enioy the inheritaunce / that in conscience And in Gauelkynde all the soÌ„nes shall inherite the lande togyther as doughters at the comon lawe and that in coÌ„scieÌ„ce And there can be none other cause assigned why coÌ„science in the fyrste case is with the eldest brother / in the seconde with the yonger brother / and iÌ„ the thyrde case with all the bretherne But bycause the lawe of Englande by reason of diuers customes dothe somtyme gyue the lande hollye to the eldest sone / somtyme to the yongest / and somtyme to all ¶ Also if a man of his mere mocion make a feffemeÌ„t of two acres of lande lyenge in two seuerall shyres / maketh lyuerey of season in the one acre in the name of both In this case the feffe hath ryght but only to that acre wherof lyuerey of season was made / bycause he hath no tytle by the law but if bothe acres had ben in one shyre he had had good ryght to both And in these cases the diuersitie of the lawe makyth the diuersitie of conscience ¶ Also if a man of his mere mocion make a feffement of a maner sayth nat to haue to holde cÌ„ with the appurtynances / in that case the feffe hath right to the demesne landes to the rentes / if there be atturnament to the comon parteynynge to the maner / but he hath nother ryght to the aduowsons appendaunt if any be / nor to the vylleins regardant but if this terme with thapurtynauÌ„ces had ben in the dede / the feffe had had ryght in coÌ„science aswell to the aduowsons vylleins / as to the residue of the maner but if the kynge of his mere mocion gyue a maner with the appurtynaunces / yet the donee hath neyther ryght in lawe nor coÌ„science to the aduowsons nor vylleins And the diuersitie of the lawe in these cases maketh the diuersitie of conscience ¶ Also if a man make a lease for terme of yeres yeldynge to hym to his heyres a certayne rent vpon condicion that if the rent be behynde by .xl. dayes cÌ„ that then it shal be lawful to the lessour his heyres to rentre And after the rent is behynde the lessour askyth the rent accordynge to the lawe it is nat payd / the lessour dyeth his heyre entreth In this case his entre is lawfull bothe in lawe and conscience but if the lessoure had dyed byfore he had demauÌ„dyd the rent / and his heyre demauÌ„de the rent / bycause it is nat payde he rentreth / in that case his rentre is nat lawfull nother in lawe nor in conscience ¶ Also if the tenaunt in dower sowe her lande and dye byfore her corne be rype / that corne in conscience belongeth to her executours / nat to hym in the reuercion / but otherwyse it is in coÌ„science of grasse frutes And the diuersitie of the lawe makyth ther also the diuersitie in coÌ„science ¶ Also if a man seased of landes in his demesne as of fee / byquethyth the same by his last wyll to another and to his heyres and dyeth In thê case the heyre nat with staÌ„dynge the wyll hath ryght to the lande in conscience And the reason is bycause the lawe iugeth that wyll to be voyde and as it is voyde in the lawe / so it is voyde in conscience ¶ Also if a man graunte a rente for terme of lyfe and make a lease of lande to the same grauÌ„te for terme of lyfe / and the tenaunte alyeneth both in fee. In this case he in the reuercion hath good tytle to the lande /
both iÌ„ lawe coÌ„scieÌ„ce nat to the rent And the reason is bycause the lande by that alienacion is forfeyt by the lawe to hym iÌ„ the reuercion nat the rent ☞ Addicion ⧠Also if landes be gyuen to two men to a woman in fee / after one of the men entermarieth with the woman alieneth the lande dyeth In this case the woman hath ryght but onely to the thyrde parte / but if the man the woman had ben maryed togyther byfore the fyrste feffement / then the woman natwithstaÌ„dyng the alienacion of her husbande shulde haue had ryght in lawe coÌ„science to the one halfe of the lande And so in these two cases coÌ„scieÌ„ce doth folowe the lawe of the realme ¶ Also if a man haue two sones / one byfore spousellys another after spouselles / after the father dyeth seased of certayne landes In that case the yonger sone shall enioye the landes in this realme as heyre to his father bothe in lawe coÌ„scieÌ„ce And the cause is / bycause the sone borne after spousellys / is by the lawe of this realme the very heyre / and the elder sone is a bastard And of these cases and many other lyke in the lawes of Englande maye be formed the Silogisme of coÌ„science / or the true iugemeÌ„t of coÌ„science in this maner Sinderesis ministreth the maior thus Ryghtwysenesse is to be done to euery man vpon whiche maior the lawe of EnglaÌ„de ministreth the minor thus The inheritance bylongeth to the sone borne aft spouselles / nat to the sone borne byfore spouselles / then coÌ„science maketh the coÌ„clusion sayth therfore the inheritaunce is in coÌ„scieÌ„ce to be gyuen to the sone borne after spousellys And so in other cases infinite may be formed by the lawe the Silogisme or the ryght iugemeÌ„t of coÌ„scieÌ„ce wherfore they that be lernyd in the lawe of the realme say that in euery case where any lawe is ordeyned for the disposicion of landes goodes / whiche is nat agaynst the lawe of god / nor yet agaynst the lawe of reason / that that lawe byndeth all them that be vnder the lawe in the courte of coÌ„science / that is to say inwardly iÌ„ his soule And therfore it is somwhat to meruayle that spirituall men haue nat endeuored theÌ„selfe in tyme past to haue more knowlege of the kynges lawes then they haue done / or that they yet do for by the ignoraunce therof they be oft tymes ignorant of that / that shuld ordre them accordynge to ryght iustice / as well coÌ„cernyng theÌ„selfe as other that come to them for coÌ„ceyll And nowe for as moch as I haue answered to thy questions as well as I can I praye the that thou wylte shewe me thy oppinion in diuers cases formed vpon the lawe of Eglande wherin I am in doute / what is to be holden therin in conscience ¶ Doctoure Shewe me thy questions I wyll saye as me thynketh therin ¶ The fyrste question of the student The .xxi. Chapitre STudent If an infaunt that is of the age of .xx. yere and hath reason and wysdome to gouerne hymselfe selleth his lande with the money therof byeth other lande of greater value then the fyrst was taketh the ê“fittes therof / whether maye that infaunte aske his fyrste lande agayne iÌ„ coÌ„scieÌ„ce / as he may by the lawe ¶ Doctour What thynkest thou in that question ¶ Stud Me semeth that for as moche as the lawe of EnglaÌ„de in this article is grounded vpon a presumpcion / that is to saye that infauntes commonly afore they be of the age of .xxi. yeres be nat able to gouerne them selfe / that yet for as moche as that presumpcion fayleth iÌ„ this infauÌ„te that he may nat in this case with conscience aske the lande agayne that he hath solde to his great auauntage as byfore appereth ¶ Doc. Is nat this sale of the infaunte and the feffemeÌ„t made thervpon if any were voydable in the lawe ¶ Stud. Yes verylye ¶ Doc. And if the feffe haue no ryght by the bargayne / nor by the feffement made therupon wherby shulde he then haue ryght therto as thou thynkest ¶ Stud. By conscience as me thynketh for the reason that I haue made byfore ¶ Docto r And vpon what lawe shulde that coÌ„scieÌ„ce be grouÌ„ded that thou spekest of / for it can nat be grouÌ„ded by the lawe of the realme as thou haste sayd thy selfe And me thynketh that it can nat be grounded vpon the lawe of god / nor vpon the lawe of reason for feffemeÌ„tes nor contractes be nat grounded vpon neyther of tho lawes / but vpon the lawe of man ¶ Stud After the lawe of propriete was ordayned / the people myght nat conueniently lyue togyther without contractes / therfore it semeth that coÌ„tractê be grouÌ„ded vpon the lawe of reason / or at the leste vpoÌ„ the lawe that is called Ius gentium ¶ Doct. Though contractes be grouÌ„ded vpon that law that is called Ius gentiuÌ„ / bycause they be so necessarye so generall amonge all people / yet that proueth nat that coÌ„tractes be grouÌ„ded vpon the lawe of reason for thoughe that lawe called Ius gentium be moche necessarye for the people yet it may be chaunged And therfore if it were ordayned by statute that there shulde be no sale of lande / ne no coÌ„tracte of goodes And if any were that it shulde be voyde / so that euery man shuld coÌ„tynewe styll seased of his landes possessed of his goodes / the statute were good And then if a man agaynst that statute solde his lande for a suÌ„me of money / yet the seller myghte lawfully retayne his lande accordynge to the statute And then he were bouÌ„de to no more / but to repaye the money that he receyued with resonable expeÌ„ces in that behalfe / and so iÌ„ lykewyse me thynketh that in this case the infant may with good coÌ„scieÌ„ce reentre in to his fyrst lande / bycause the coÌ„tracte after the maximes of the law of the realme is voyde / for as I haue herde the maximes of the lawe be of as greate strengthe in the lawe as statutes And so me thynketh that in this case the infaunt is bouÌ„de to no more / but only to repay the money to hym that he solde his laÌ„de vnto / with suche reasonable costes charges as he hath sustayned by reason of the same But if a man sell his lande by a sufficieÌ„t lawful coÌ„tracte thoughe there lacketh lyuerye of season or such other solempnities of the lawe yet the seller is bounde in conscience to performe the contracte / but in this case the contracte is insufficient / so me thynketh great diuersitie bytwyxt the cases ¶ Stud. For this tyme I holde me contented with thy opoinion ¶ The seconde question of the student The .xxii. Chapitre STudent If a man that hath landes for terme of lyfe be impanelled vpon an inquest / therupon leseth yssues
no discharge to hym to paye it agayne to the executoures without they payed it ouer / and it were vncertayne to hiÌ„ whether they wolde paye it or nat And therfore to be out of peryll it is necessarye that he paye it hym selfe / and than is he surely discharged agaynst all men ⧠The .x. question of the student The .xii. Chapitre ¶ STudent A man seased of certayne lande in his demeane as of fee / hathe issue two sones and dyeth seased / after whose dethe a straunger abateth / taketh the profytes / and after the eldest sone dieth without issue and his brother bringeth an assise of MortdauÌ„cestre as sone and heyre to his father nat makynge mencion of his brother and recouereth the lande with damages fro the deth of his father as he may wel by the lawe / whether iÌ„ this case is the yonger brother bounde in coÌ„science to pay to the executours of the eldest brother the value of the profytê of the sayd lande that belonged to the eldest brother in his lyfe or nat ¶ Doctour What is thyne opinion therin ¶ Student That lyke as the said profytes belonged of right to the eldest brother in his lyfe / and that he had full auctorite to haue released as well the ryghte of the sayd lande as of the sayd ê“fytê / whiche release shulde haue ben a clere barre to the yonger brother for euer That the ryght of the said damages whiche be in the lawe but a chatell / bylonge to his executoures and nat to the heyre / for no maner of chatell neyther reall nor parsonall shall nat after the lawe of the realme discende vnto the heyre ¶ Doctoure Thou saydest to the case next byfore / that it is nat of the lawe of reason that a man shall may make executours / and dispose his goodes by his wyll / and that the executoures shall haue the goodes to dispose but by the lawe of man / and if it be lefte to the terminacion of the lawe of man ThaÌ„ in suche cases as the lawe gyueth suche chatelles vnto the executoures / they shall haue good ryghte vnto them / and in suche cases as the lawe takethe suche chatelles frome them they bene ryghtfully taken frome them And therfore it is thoughte by many that if a man sue a wrytte of ryghte of warde of awarde that he hathe by his owne fee and dyeth hangynge the wrytte / and his heyre sue a resomons accordynge to the statute of Westmester seconde / and recouereth that in that case the heyre shal enioye the wardeshype agaynste the executoures / and yet it is but a chatel / and they take the reason to be bycause of the sayd estatute / and so myghte it be ordeyned by statute that all wardes shulde go to the heyres and nat to the executoures Ryght so iÌ„ this case syth the lawe is suche that the yonger brother shall in this case haue an assyse of Mort dauncestre as heyre to his father nat makynge any mencion of his elder brother recouer damages as well iÌ„ the tyme of his brother as in his owne tyme it appereth that the lawe gyueth the right of these damages to the heyre / and therfore no recompence ought to be made to the executoures as me semeth / and it is nat lyke to a wryt of Ayel where as I haue lerned iÌ„ Latyn syth our fyrste dialogue the demaundauÌ„t shall recouer damages onely fro the deth of his father if he ouer lyue the Ayel / and the cause is for the demauÌ„t though his Ayel ouer lyued his father must of necessite make his coÌ„ueyauÌ„ce by his father muste make hiÌ„ selfe sone heyre to his father cosyn heyre to his Ayel / therfore in that case if the father ouer liued the Ayel the abatour were bouÌ„den in coÌ„science to restore to the executours of the father the profytes reÌ„ne in his tyme / for no lawe taketh theÌ„ fro hiÌ„ / but otherwyse is iÌ„ this case as me semeth ¶ Student If the yonger brother in this case had entred into the lande without takyng any assyse of Mort dauncestoure as he myght if he wolde / to whome were the abatour than bounden to make restitucioÌ„ for those profytes as thou thynkest ¶ Doctour To the executours of the eldest brother / for iÌ„ that case there is no law that taketh them from them / and therfore the general grounde whiche is that al chatels shall go to the executoures holdeth in that case / but in this case that grounde is broken and holdeth nat for the reason that I haue made byfore / for comonly there is no general grounde in the lawe so sure but that it fayleth in some particuler case ⧠The .xi. question of the student The .xiii. Chapitre STudent A man seased of lande in fee taketh a wyfe / and after alieneth the lande and dyeth / after whose deth his wyfe asketh her dower and the aliene refuseth to assigne it vnto her / but after she asketh her dower agayne and he assigneth it vnto her / whether is the alme in this case bounde in conscience to gyue the woman damages for the profites of the land after her thyrde parte fro the dethe of her husbande / or fro the fyrst request of her dower or neyther the one nor the other ¶ Doct. what is the lawe in this case ¶ Student By the lawe the woman shall recouer no damagê / for at the comoÌ„ lawe the demauÌ„daunt iÌ„ a wrytte of dower shulde neuer haue recouered damages But by the statute of Marton yt is ordeyned that where the husband dyeth seased that the womaÌ„ shall recouer damages whiche is vnderstande the profytes of the land sythe the dethe of her husband / suche damagê as she hathe by the forberynge of it / but in this case the husbande dyed not seased / where fore she shall recouer no damages by the lawe ¶ Doctour yet the lawe is that immediately after the dethe of her husbande the wyfe ought of ryght to haue her dower yf she aske it thoughe her husbande died not seased ¶ Student That is trewe ¶ Doctoure And sithe she ought to haue her dower fro the dethe of her husbande yt semeth that she ought in coÌ„science to haue also the profytes fro the dethe of her husbande though she haue no remedy to come to them by the lawe / for me thynketh that that this case is lyke too a case that thou puttest in our fyrste dyalogue in latyn the xvii chapytre That if a tenaunte for terme of lyfe be dysseased dye / the disseasoure dyeth / and his heyre entreth and taketh the profytes / after he in the reuercyon recouereth the laÌ„dê against the heyre as he ought too do by the lawe / that in that case he shall recouer no damages by the lawe And yet thou dydest agree that iÌ„ that case the heyre is bounde in concience to pay the damages to the demaundaunt so me
thynketh iÌ„ this case that the feoffe oughte in coÌ„scyence to paye the damages fro the deth of her husband seinge that immediately after his deth she ought too haue her dower ¶ Student Thoughe she oughte too be endowed immediately after the dethe of her husbande / yet she can lay no defaute in the feoffe tyll she demaunde her dower vppon the grounde / and that the tenaunte be not there too assigne it / or if he be there that he wyl not assigne it / for he that hath the possessyon of lande whervnto any womaÌ„ hath tytle of dower hath good auctorytye as agaynste her to take the ê“fytes tyll she requyre her dower for euery womaÌ„ that demaundeth dower affermeth the possessyon of the tenaunt as agaynste her and therfore all thoughe she recouer it by accyoÌ„ she leueth the reuercyon alwey in him agaynst whome she recouereth thoughe he be a dysseasour bryngeth nat the reuercyon by her recouery to hym that hath righte as other tenauntes for terme of lyfe do And for this reason it is that the tenaunte in a wrytte of dower where the husbande dyed seased if he appere the fyrst day may saye to excuse hymselfe of damages that he is and all tymes hathe ben redy to yelde dower if it had ben demaunded / so he shall nat be receyued to do iÌ„ a wryt ofcosynage nether iÌ„ the case that thou remembrest aboue / for in bothe cases the renauntes be supposed by the wrytte to be wronge doers / but it is nat so in this case / and so me thynketh it clere that the feoffe iÌ„ this case shall nether be bounde by lawe nor conscience to yelde damages for the tyme that passed byfore the requeste / but for the tyme after the requeste is greater doute / howe be it some thynketh hym nat there bounde to yelde damages bycause his tytle is good as is sayd byfore and that it is her defaute that she brought nat her accyon ¶ Doctour As vnto the tyme byfore the requeste I holde me contente with thyne opinion so that he assigne the dower whan he is required / but whan he refuseth to assigne it than I thynke hym bounde in conscience to yelde damages for bothe tymes though he shall none recouer by the lawe And fyrste as for the tyme after the refusell it appereth euidentely that whan he denied to assigne her dower he dyd agaynste conscieÌ„ce / for he dyd nat that of ryght to haue done by the lawe / ne as he wolde shulde haue ben done to him / and so after the request he holdeth her dower fro her wrongfully ought in conscience to yelde damages therfore And as to the defaute that thou assignest in her that she toke nat her accioÌ„ / that forceth lytel for accioÌ„s nede nat / but where the partie wyll nat do that he ought to do of ryght And for that he ought of right to haue done and dyd it nat / he can take none aduauntage / and than as to the damages byfore the request me thynketh hym also bounden to paye theÌ„ / for whan he was requyred to assygne dower and refused It appereth that he neuer inteÌ„ded to yelde dower fro the begynnyng / so he is a wrong doer in his owne coÌ„science / and more ouer if the husbande dye seased the lawe is such that if the tenaunt refuse to assigne dower whan he is requyred wherfore the womaÌ„ bryngeth a wrytte of dower agaynst him / that in that case the woman shall recouer damages as wel for the tyme byfore the request as after / and yet he ought nat iÌ„ that case after thyne opinioÌ„ to haue yelded any maner of damages if he had ben redy to assigne dower whan it was demaunded / and so me thynketh here ¶ Studente The cause in that case that thou haste put is for that the statute is general that the demauÌ„dauÌ„t shall recouer damages where the husbande dyed seased / and that statute hathe ben alwaye construed that where the tenaunt maye nat saye that he is and hathe ben alway redy to yelde dower cÌ„ that the demaundaunt shall recouer damages fro the dethe of her husbande But in this case there is no law of the realme that helpeth for the damaundauÌ„t neyther comon lawe nor statut / forthermore though it myght be proued by his refusell that he neuer entended fro the deth of the husbande to assigne her dower yet that proueth nat / but that he had good ryght to take the ê“fites of her thyrde parte for the tyme as well as he had of his owne two partes tyl request be made as is afore sayd / and so me thynketh that nat withstandyng the denyer he is nat bounde to yelde damagê in this case but fro the tyme of the request / and nat for the tyme byfore ¶ Doctoure For this tyme I am content with thy reason ⧠The .xii. question of the student The .xiiii. Chapitre STudent A maÌ„ seased of certayne landê knowyng that an other hath good ryght and tytle to them leuieth a fyne with proclamacion to the entent he wolde extyncte the ryght of the other man / the other man makethe no clayme within the .v. yeres / whether may he that leuyed the fyne holde the lande in coÌ„scieÌ„ce as he may do by the lawe ¶ Doctoure By this question it semeth that thou doste agre that if he that leuyeth the fyne had no knowlege of the other mannes ryght that his ryght shulde than be extyncted by the fyne in conscience ¶ Student ye verely / for thou dydest shewe a reasoneble cause why it shulde be so in oure fyrste dialogue in latyne the .xxiiii. Chapitre as there appereth But if he that leuyeth a fyne and that wolde extyncte the ryghte of an other / knowynge that the other hathe more ryghte than he than I doute therin for I take thyne opinion in our fyrste dialogue to be vnderstaÌ„de in conscience where he that wolde extincte former ryghtes by suche a fyne with proclamacioÌ„ knoweth nat of any former tytle but for his more surety if any suche former ryght be he taketh the remedy that is ordeyned by the lawe ¶ Doctoure Whether dost thou meane in this case that thou puttest now that he that hath right knoweth of the fyne and wylfully lettethe the .v. yere pas without claime or that he knoweth nat any thynge of the fyne ¶ Student I pray the let me knowe thyne opinion in bothe cases and whether thou thinke that he that hathe ryght be barred in eyther of the cases by conscience as he is by the law or nat ¶ Doctour I wyll with good wyl here after shewe me thy mynde therin / but at this tyme I praye the gyue a lytell sparyng and procede nowe for this tyme to some other question ⧠The .xiii. question of the student The .xv. Chapitre STudent A man seased of certayne landes in fee hath a doughter whiche is his heyre apparauÌ„te / the doughter taketh a
husbande and they haue issue the father deyeth seased / the husbande as sone as he hereth of his deth goeth towarde the lande to take possession / and byfore he can come there his wyfe dieth / whether ought he to haue the lande in cōscience for terme of his lyfe as tenaunt by the courtesie bycause he hath done that in hym was to haue had possession in his wyues lyfe so that he myght haue ben tenaunt by the courtesie accordynge to the lawe / or that he shall neyther haue it by lawe nor conscience ¶ Doctour Is it clerely holdē in the law that he shall nat be tenaunt by the curtesy in this case bycause he had nat possession in dede ¶ Student ye verely / and yet vpō a possessiciō in lawe a womā shal haue her dower / but no man shal be tenaunte by the curtesie of lāde without his wyfe haue possession in dede ¶ Doctoure A man shal be tenaunt by the curtesie of a rent thoughe his wyfe dye byfore the day of payment / in lyke wyse of an aduowson thoughe she dye byfore the auoydaunce ¶ Studente That is trouthe / for the olde custome and maxime of the lawe is that he shall be so / but of lande there is no maxime that serueth hym but his wyfe haue possession in dede ¶ Doctour And what is the reason that there is suche a maxime in the lawe of the rent and of the aduowson rather thā of lande / whan the husbāde doth as moche as in hym is to haue possessiō and can nat ¶ Studēt Some assigne the reason to be bycause it is impossible to haue possession in dede of the rent or of aduouson byfore the daye of payment of the rent / or byfore the auoydaunce of the aduouson ¶ Doct. And so is impossible that he shal haue possession in dede of lande if his wyfe dye so sone that he maye nat by possibilitie come to the lande after her fathers dethe / and in her lyfe as this case is ¶ Student The lawe is suche as I haue shewed the byfore and I take the verey cause to be for that there is a maxime serueth for the rent and the aduouson / and nat for the landes as I haue sayd byfore / and as it is sayd in the viii chapitre of our fyrst dialogue / it is nat alwaye necessarie to assigne a reason or cōsideraciō why the maximes of the lawe of Englande were fyrst ordeyned and admitted for maximes / but it suffisethe that they haue ben alwaye taken for lawe and that they be neyther cōtrarie to the lawe of reason nor to the lawe of god as this maxime is nat / and therfore if the husbande in this case be nat holpen by cōscience he can nat be holpen by the lawe ¶ Doctour And if the lawe helpe hym nat cōscience can nat helpe hym in this case / for conscience must alwaye be grounded vpon some lawe / and it can nat in this case be groūded vpon the lawe of reason nor vpon the lawe of god / for it is nat dyrectely by those lawes that a man shal be tenaūt by the curtesy / but by the custome of the realme And therfore if that custome helpe hī nat he can nothyng haue in this case by conscience / for conscience neuer resysteth the lawe of mā nor addeth nothynge to it / but where the lawe of man is in it selfe dyrectly against the lawe of reason or els the lawe of god / and than properly it can nat be called a lawe but a corrupcion / or where the generall groundes of the lawe of man worketh in any particuler case agaynste the sayd lawes as it may do / and yet the lawe good as it appereth in diuerse places in our fyrst dialogue in latyne / or els where there is no lawe of man prouided for hym that hathe ryghte to a thynge by the lawe of reason or by the lawe of god And than somtyme there is remedy gyuen to execute that in cōscience / as by a Sub pena but nat in all cases / for somtyme it shal be referred to the consciēce of the partie / and vpon this grounde that is to saye that whan there is no tytle gyuen by the comon lawe that there is no tytle by conscience There be diuerse other cases wherof I shall put some for an example As if a reuercion be graunted vnto one / but there is none attournement / or if a newe rente be graunted by worde with out dede there is no remedy by conscience oneles the sayd grauntes were made vpon consideracions of money or suche other And in lyke wyse where he that is seased of landes in fee simple maketh a wyll therof / the wyll is voyde in conscience bycause the grounde seruethe nat for hym wherby the conscience shulde take effecte / that is to saye / the lawe / and if the tenaunte make a feoffement of the lande that he holdeth by priorite and taketh estate agayne and dyeth his heyre within age the lorde of whome the lande was fyrst holden by prioritie shall haue no remedy for the body by conscience / for the lawe that fyrste was with hym / is nowe agaynste hym / and therfore cōsciēce is altered in lyke wyse as the lawe altereth / and diuerse and many cases lyke be in the lawe that were to long to reherce nowe And thus me thynketh that if the lawe be as thou sayest the husbande ī this case hathe neyther ryght by the lawe nor conscience ⧠The .xiiii. question of the student The .xvi. Chapitre STudent A rent is graunted to a man ī fee to perceyue of two acres of land / and after the graūtour enfeoffeth the grauntee of one of the sayd acres / whether is the hole rente extyncte therby in conscience as it is in the lawe ¶ Doctour Thy case is somwhat vncertayne / for it appereth nat whether the grauntour enfeoffed hym on truste or that he gaue the acre to hym of his mere mocion to the vse of the sayd feoffe / or els that the feoffement was made vpon a bargayne / and if it were but onely a feoffement of truste / than I thinke the hole rent abydeth in conscience though it be extyncted in the lawe / and fyrste that it continueth in that case in conscience / for that parte that the grauntee hathe to the vse of the grauntour / it is euidente / for he may nat take the profytes of the lande / and it is agaynste conscience that he shulde lese bothe / and in lyke wyse it abydeth ī cōscience for the acre that remayneth in the handes of the grauntour thoughe it be extyncte in the lawe / for there was a defaute in the grauntoure that he wolde make the feoffement to the grauntee as well as ther was in the grauntee to take it And it is no conscience that of his owne defaute he shulde take so great auayle to be discharged of the hole rent seynge that
haue the rent in coÌ„science shal be dryuen to sue for his remedy by Sub pena ¶ Doctour I am coÌ„tent with thy conceyte in this matter for this tyme. ⧠The .xvi. question of the student The .xviii. Chapitre STudent A vylleyne is graunted to a maÌ„ for terme of lyfe / the vylleyne purchaseth landes to hym and to his heyres / the tenaunt for terme of lyfe entre the / in this case by the lawe he shall enioye the landes to hym and to his heyres / whether shall he do so in lyke wyse in conscienec ¶ Doctour Me thynketh it fyrst good to se whether it maye stande with conscience that one man may clayme an other to be his vylleyne / and that he maye take fro hiÌ„ his landes and goodes and put his body in prysoÌ„ if he wyll / it semeth he loueth nat his neyghbour as hym selfe that dothe so to hym ¶ Sudent That lawe hathe bene so longe vsed in this realme and in other also / and hath ben admitted so long in the lawes of this realme and of diuerse other lawes also and hath bene affermed by bisshoppes / abbotes / priors / and many other men bothe spirituall and temporall which haue take aduauntage by the sayd lawe haue seased the landes and goodê of theyr vylleyns therby and cal it theyr ryght enheritaunce so to do that I thynke it nat good / nowe to make a doute ne to put it in argument whether it stand with conscieÌ„ce or nat / and therfore I pray the admittyng the lawe in that behalfe to stande in conscience shewe me thyne opinion in the question that I haue made ¶ Doctour Is the lawe clere that he that hath the vylleyne but only for the terme of lyfe shal haue the landes that the vylleyne purchaseth in fee to hym and to his heyres ¶ Student I verely I take it so ¶ Doctour I wolde haue take the lawe otherwise / for if a seygnoury be graunted to a man for terme of lyfe and the tenaunt attourne / and after the lande eschete and the tenauÌ„t for terme of lyfe entreth he shal haue there none other estate iÌ„ the lande than he had in the seygnourye / and me thynketh that it shuld be lyke law in this case / and that the lorde ought to haue in the lande but suche estate as he hathe in the vyllayne ¶ Stud. The cases be nat lyke / for in that case of the eschete the tenaunt for terme of lyfe of the seygnourye hathe the landes in the lieu of the seignourie / that is to saye / in the place of the seignourie / the seignourie is clerely extincte / but in this case he hathe nat the lande iÌ„ the lieu of the vylleyne / for he shal haue the villeyne styl as he had byfore / but he hath the landes as a ê“fyte come by meanes of the vylleyne whiche he shall haue in lyke case as the vylleyne had them / that is to saye / of all goodes and catalles he shal haue the hole propertie and of a lease for terme of yeres he shall haue the hole terme / and for terme of lyfe he shall haue the same estate / the lorde shall haue the lande durynge the lyfe of the vyleyne of lande in fee simple of an estate tayle that the vylleyne hath / the lorde shall haue the hole fee simple / all thoughe he had the vylleyne but onely for terme of yeres so that he entre or sease accordyng to the lawe byfore the vylleyne alien or elles he shall haue nothynge ¶ Doctoure Verely and if the lawe be so / I thynke conscience folowethe the lawe therin / for admyttynge that a man maye with conscience haue an other man to be his hylleyne / the iugement of the lawe in this case as to termine what estat the lord hath in the lande by his entre is neyther agaynst the lawe of reason nor agaynst the lawe of god / and therfore conscience muste folowe the lawe of the realme / but I pray the let me make a lytell dygression to here thyne opinion in a nother case somewhat perteynynge to the question / and it is this if an executour haue a vylleyne that is his testatoure had for terme of yeres he purchaseth landes in fee and the executour entreth in to the lande / what estate hathe he by his entre ¶ Student A fee simple / but that shal be to the behoue of the testatoure and shal be an assesse in his handes ¶ Doctoure Well than I am contented with thyne conceyte at this tyme in this case and I praye the procede to a nother question ¶ Ttudente For as moche as it appereth in this case and in some other byfore that the knowlege of the law of EnglaÌ„de is ryght necessarie for the good orderynge of conscience I wolde here thyne opinion if a man mistake the lawe what dauÌ„ger it is in conscience for the mistakynge of it ¶ Doctour I praye the put some case in certayn therof that thou doutest in / and I wyll with good wyll shewe the my mynde therin for elles it wyll be somwhat longe or it can be playnly declared / and I wolde nat be tedious in this wrytynge ⧠The .xvii. question of the student The .xix. Chapitre STudent A man hath a vylleyne for terme of lyfe the vylleyne purchaseth landes in fee as in the case in the laste Chapitre and the tenauÌ„t for terme of lyfe entreth and after the vylleyne dyeth / he in the reuercion pretendynge that the tenauÌ„t for terme of lyfe hath nothyng in the land but for terme of lyfe of the vylleine / asketh counsayle of one that sheweth him that he hath good ryght to the lande and that he may lawfully entre / and through that couÌ„sayle he in the reuercion entreth / by reason of the whiche entre great sutes and expences folowe in the lawe to the great hurte of bothe parties / what daunger is this to hym that gaue the counsayle ¶ Doctour Whether meanest thou that he that gaue the counsayle gaue it wyttyngly agaynste the lawe / or that he was ignoraunt of the lawe ¶ Student That he was ignorauÌ„t of the lawe for if he knewe the lawe gaue counsayle to the contrarie I thynke hym bounde to restitucion both to hym against whome he gaue the counsayle / and also to his client if he wolde nat haue sued but for his counsayle of all that they be dampnified by it ¶ Doctour Than wyl I yet ferther aske the this question / whether he of whome he asked counsayle gaue hym selfe to lernynge to haue knowlege of the law after his capacite or that he toke vpon hiÌ„ to gyue counsayle and toke no study competent to haue lernynge / for if he dyd so I thynke he be bounden in conscience to restitucion of all the costes and damages that he susteyned to whome he gaue counsayle if he wolde nat haue sued but throughe his counsaile And also
a man at the comon lawe knowyng that he hath sufficient matter to be discharged in the chauncery that he may nat pleade at the comon lawe The .vi. chapitre Fo. 17. ¶ The .vi. questioÌ„ of the StudeÌ„t / whether a maÌ„ may with conscience be of counsayl agaynst the feoffour of truste in an accion of trespas that he bryngeth agaynste his feoffe of trust for takyng the profites The .vii. chapitre Fo. 19. ¶ The .vii. question of the StudeÌ„t if a maÌ„ that by way of distres cometh to his det / but he ought nat to haue distreyned for it what restitucion he is bounde to make The .viii. chapitre Fo. 21. ¶ For what thynge a man may lawfully distrayne The .ix. chapi Fo. 23. ¶ The .viii. question of the Student whether executours be bounde in conscience to make restitucion for a trespas done by the testatoure / and whether they be bouÌ„de to paye dettes vpon a contracte fyrste / or make the sayde restitucion The .x. chapitre Fo. 25. ¶ The .ix. question of the Student / whether he that hath goodes deliuered hym by force of a legaci be bounde in conscieÌ„ce to pay a dette vpon a contracte that the testatoure ought / if the executours haue none other goodes in theyr handes The .xi. chapitre Fo. 28. ¶ The .x. question of the Student if a maÌ„ haue issue two sones dyed seased of certayne landes in fee the eldest dyeth without issue the tongest recouereth by assise of mortdauncestre the lande with damages fro the dethe of the father / whether he be bounde in conscience to pay the damages to the executours of the eldest brother for the tyme he leued The .xii. cha Fo. 31. ¶ The .xi. question of the Student what damages the tenant in dower shall recouer in conscience where hyr husbaÌ„de dyed nat seased / but she demaunded hyr dower and was denyed The .xiii. chapitre Folio 33. ¶ The .xii. question of the Student if a man knowynge a nother to haue right to his lande causeth a fyne with proclamacion to be leuyed accordynge to the statute / and he that hath right maketh no clayme within .v. yeres whether he be barred in conscience as he is in the lawe The .xiiii. chapitre Fo. 36. ¶ The .xiii. question of the Student / if a man that hath had a chylde by his wyfe do that in hym is to haue possession of his wyfes landes and she dyeth or he caÌ„ haue it / whether in conscience he shal be tenauÌ„t by the courtesy The .xv. chapitre Folio 37. ¶ The .xiiii. question of the Student / if the grauntour of a reÌ„te enfeffe the grauÌ„te of the rente of parte of the lande cÌ„ whether the hole rente be extincte in conscieÌ„ce as it is in the lawe The .xvi. chapitre Folio 41. ¶ The xv question of the Student / if he that hath a rent out of .ii. acres be named in a recouerye of the one acre he nat knowynge thereof cÌ„ whether his hole rente be extincte in conscience cÌ„ The .xvii. chapitre Fo. 43. ¶ The .xvi. question of the Student / if a man haue a villayne for terme of lyfe the villayn purchaseth laÌ„des iÌ„ fee he that hath the villayn entreth / whether he may with coÌ„cieÌ„ce kepe the laÌ„des to hiÌ„ to his heyres as he may by the law the .xviii. cha fo 45. ¶ The .xvii. questioÌ„ of the StudeÌ„t if a maÌ„ in the case next before enforme hym that is in the reuercioÌ„ of the villayn that after the dethe of the villayn he hath right to the laÌ„de couÌ„sayleth hiÌ„ to entre / wherupoÌ„ great sute charges folowe / what dauÌ„ger that is to hym that gaue the counsayle The .xix. chapitre Fo. 47. ¶ The .xviii. question of the Student is vpoÌ„ a feffemeÌ„t made vpoÌ„ coÌ„dicioÌ„ that the feffe shall pay a rent to a strauÌ„ger / how that feffement shall wey in lawe conscience The .xx. chapitre Fo. 49. ¶ The .xix. question of the StudeÌ„t is vpoÌ„ a feofement in fee / it is agreed that the feffe shall pay a rente to a straunger / howe that feffement shall way in law conscience The .xxi. chapitre Fo. 51. ¶ Howe vses in lande began by what law the cause why so moche laÌ„de is put in vse The .xxii. chapitre Fo. 54. ¶ The diuersite bytwene two cases wherof one is put in the .xx. chapitre and the other in the .xxi. chapitre of this present boke The .xxiii. chapitre Fo. 57. ¶ What is a nude coÌ„tracte or a naked promyse after the lawes of Englande / whether any accion may lye thereupoÌ„ The .xxiiii. chapitre Fo. 61. ¶ The .xx. question of the StudeÌ„t if a maÌ„ that hath two sones one borne before espousels the other after espousels by his wyll byqueteth to his sone heyre all his goodes / whiche of the sones shall haue the goodes in conscieÌ„ce The .xxv. cha Fo. 67 ¶ Whether an Abbot may with conscieÌ„ce present to an aduouson of a churche that belongeth to the howse without assent of the coueÌ„t The .xxvi. chapitre Fo. 72. ¶ If a maÌ„ fynde beestes in his corne doiÌ„g hurt / whether he may by his owne authorite take them and kepe them tyll he be satisfied for the hurt The .xxvii. cha Fo. 75 ¶ Whether a gyfte made by one vnder the age of .xxv. yere be good The .xxviii. chapitre Fo. 76. ¶ If a man be conuicte of heresye before the ordinarie / whether his goodes be forfet The .xxix. chapitre Fo. 78. ¶ Where diuers patrons be of an aduouson the churche voydeth / the patrons varye in theyr presentementes / whether the Bisshop shall haue libertie to present whiche of the incumbentes that he wyll The .xxx. chapitre Fo. eodem ¶ Howe long tyme the patron shall haue to present to a benefice The .xxxi. chapitre Fo. 80. ¶ If a man be excoÌ„menged / whether he may in any case be assoyled withoute makynge satisfaccion The .xxxii. cha Fo. 83. ¶ Whether a prelate may refuse a legaci The .xxxiii. chapitre Fo. 84. ¶ Whether a gyfte made vnder a condicioÌ„ be voyde if the souerayne onely breke the condicion The .xxxiiii. cha Fo. 87. ¶ Whether a couenaunt made vpon a gift to the churche that it shall nat be aliened be good The .xxxv. chapi Fo. 89. ¶ If the patroÌ„ present nat within .vi. monethes who shall present The .xxxvi. chapitre Fo. 91. ¶ Whether the presentemente collacion of all benefices and dignities voydyng at Rome belonge onely to the Pope The .xxxvii. chapitre Fo. 95. ¶ If a howse by chaunce fall vpoÌ„ a horse that is borowed who shall bere the losse The .xxxviii. chapitre Fo. 97. ¶ If a preeste haue wonne moche money by saynge masse / whether he maye gyue those goodes or make a wyll of them The .xxxix. chapitre Fo. 99. ¶ Who shall succede to a clerke that dyeth intestate The .xl. chapitre Fo. 101. ☞ Addicion ¶ If a man be outlawed of felonye / or be attaynted for murdre or felony / or that is an Ascismus may be slayne by euery strauÌ„ger The .xli. chapitre Fo. 102. ☞ Addicion ¶ Whether a man shal be bouÌ„de by the act or offeÌ„ce of his seruaunt or officer The .xlii. chapitre Fo. 104. ♣ Addicion ¶ Whether a villayn or a bondeman may gyue a waye his goodes The .xliii. chapitre Fo. 106. ¶ If a clerke be promoted to the title of his patrimony after selleth his patrimony falleth to pouerty / whether he shall haue his title therin The .xliiii. chapitre Folio 108. ¶ Diuers questions takeÌ„ out by the Student of the summes called Summa rosella Summa angelica whiche me thiÌ„keth are necessary to be sene how they stande agree with the lawe of the realme The .xlv. chapitre Fo. 111. ¶ Where ignoraunce of the lawe excuseth in the lawes of Englande where nat The .xlvi. chapitre Fo. 115. ¶ Certayne cases groundes where ignorauÌ„ce of the dede excuseth in the lawes of Englande where nat The .xlvii. chapitre Fo. 119. ☞ Addicion ¶ The fyrst question of the Doctour how the law of Englande may be sayde reasonable that prohibiteth cÌ„ The .xlviii. chapitre Fo. 120. ¶ The seconde question of the Doctoure whether the warranty of the longer brother that is takeÌ„ as heyre bycause it is nat knowen but that the eldest brother is ded be in conscience a barre to the eldest brother as it is in the lawe The .xlix. chapitre Fo. 124. ¶ The thyrde question of the Doctoure / whether if a maÌ„ procure a collaterall warranty to extincte a right that knoweth another man hath to lande be a barre in coÌ„science as it is in the lawe The .l. chapitre Fo. 127. ¶ The fourth question of the Doctoure / is of wreke of the see The .li. chapitre Folio 129. ¶ The fyft question of the Doctour / whether it stande with conscience to prohibite a Iurye of meate drynke tyll they be agreed of theyr verdite The .lii. chapitre Folio 131. ¶ The .vi. question of the Doctoure is / whether the colours that be gyuen at the comon lawe in assises / accions of trespas and diuers other accions stande with coÌ„science bycause they be moste comonly feyned and nat trewe The .liii. chapitre Folio 132. ☞ Addicion ¶ The .vii. questioÌ„ of the Doctour / coÌ„cerneth the pleadynge in assise whereby the tenementes vse somtyme to pleade iÌ„ suche maner that they shall confesse no ouster The .liiii. chapitre Fo. 137. ¶ The .viii. questioÌ„ of the Doctour / how the statute that was made in the .xlv. yere of kynge Edwarde the thyrde concernynge the tythe of woode maye stande with conscience The .lv. chapitree Folio 140. ¶ Finis Tabule ¶ Thus endeth the seconde Dialogue in Englisshe / with the Addicions bytwene a Doctoure of of diuinitie and a Student in the lawes of EnglaÌ„de which treateth of diuers thynges that be shortly touched in the fyrst lesse of thê present boke before the introduccion ¶ Imprynted at LoddoÌ„ in the Fletestrete / by me Robert Redman dwellynge in saint Dunstones parysshe / nexte the churche In the yere of our lorde god M. CCCCC.XXXii The fyrst day of the moneth of Iuly ⸫
helde by .xii. d. rente the heyre in the yere folowynge shall paye that .xii. d. for his reÌ„t / other .xii. d for his relyef And that relyefe he muste paye though he be within age at the deth of his auncestre ⧠Also there is an olde law custome in this realme that a freholde by way of feffement gyfte or lease passeth nat without lyuery of season be made vpoÌ„ the laÌ„de according though a dede of feffemeÌ„t be therof made deliuered but by way of surrendre particion eschauÌ„ge a freholde maye passe without liuery ⧠Also if a maÌ„ make a wyll of laÌ„de wherof his is seased iÌ„ his demesne as of fee / that wyll is voyde / but if it had stande in feffes handes it had ben good And also in London suche a wyll is good by the custome of the cytie if it be inrowled ⧠Also a lease for terme of yeres is but a chatel in the lawe / therfore it may passe without any liuery of season / but otherwise it is of a state for terme of lyfe for that is a freholde in the law / therfore lyuerey muste be made therof or els the freholde passeth nat ⧠Also by the olde custome of the realme a man may distreyne for a rent seruice of coÌ„mon right And also for a rent reserued vpoÌ„ a gifte in tayle / a lease terme of lyfe / of yeres at wyll / in suche case the lorde may distreyne the tenauntes of beestes as soon as they come vpoÌ„ the grouÌ„de / but the beastê of strauÌ„gers that come iÌ„ but by maner of an escape / he may nat distreyne tyll they haue beÌ„ leuaÌ„t couchaÌ„t vpoÌ„ the grouÌ„de but for dette vpoÌ„ an obligacioÌ„ nor vpoÌ„ a contracte / nor for accompte ne yet for arerages of accoÌ„pte / nor for no maner of trespasse / reparacions / nor suche other no man may distreyne ⧠Also by the olde law custome of the realme all yssues that shal be ioyned betwixte partie partie in any court of recorde within the realme except a fewe wherof it nedeth nat to treate at thê tyme / must be tryed by .xii. fre lawfull meÌ„ of the visne that be nat of affinitie to none of the parties And in other courtes that be nat of recorde / as in the countye / court baron / hundred suche other lyke / they shal be tryed by the other of the ê“tyes nat other wyse oneles the partyes assente that it shal be tryed by the homage And it is to be noted that lordes / Barons / all pyers of the realme be excepted out of suche trialles if they wyll / but if they wyll wylfully be sworne therin / some say it is no erroure And they may if they wyll haue a writte out of the Chauncerie directed to the Shyryfe coÌ„maundynge hym that he shal nat impanell them vpon no enqueste And of this that is saydbefore it appereth that the customes aforesayd nor other lyke vnto theÌ„ / wherof be very many in the lawes of Englande can nat be proued to haue the strenght of a law onely by reasoÌ„ for how may it be proued by reason that the eldest sone shall onely enherite his father the yoÌ„ger to haue no parte / or that the husbaÌ„de shall haue the hole laÌ„de for terme of his lyfe as tenaunt by the courtesye in suche maner as before appereth And that the wyfe shall haue onely the thyrde parte in the name of her dower / that the husbande shall haue all the goodes of his wyfe as his owne And that if he dye lyuynge the wyfe / that his executours shall haue the goodes / nat the wyfe All these suche other can nat be proued onely by reason that it shulde be so no otherwyse all though they be reasonable / that with the custome theriÌ„ vsed suffiseth in the law And a statute made agaynst suche generall customê ought to be obserued because they be nat merely the law of reason ⧠Also the law of ê“pretie is nat the law of reason / but a law of custome how be it that it is kept / is also right necessarie to be kept in all realmes amoÌ„ge all people And so it may be noÌ„bred amoÌ„ge the generall customes of the realme And it is to vnderstande that there is no statute that treateth of the begynnyng of the sayd customes ne why they shulde beholden for law And therfore after theÌ„ that be lerned in the lawes of the realme the olde custome of the realme is the onely sufficiente auctoritie to them in that behalfe And I pray the shewe me what doctours holde therin / that is to say whether a custome onely be sufficient auctoritie of any lawe ¶ Doctoure doctours holde that a law grouÌ„ded vpon a custome is the moste surest law / but this muste always vnderstaÌ„de therwith that such a custome is nother coÌ„trarie to the lawe of reason / nor to the law of god And now I pray the shewe me somwhat of the maxymes of the lawe of Englande wherof thou haste made mencioÌ„ before in the .iiii. chapitre ¶ StudeÌ„t I wyll with good wyll ☞ Of the .iiii. grounde of the lawe of Englande The .viii. Chapitre STudent The .iiii. grouÌ„de of the law of EnglaÌ„de standeth in diuers principles that be called in the lawe maximes / the which haue ben always takeÌ„ for law iÌ„ this realme / fo that it is nat lawfull for none that is lerned to denye them / for euery one of those maximes is sufficiente auctoritie to hym selfe And whiche is a maxime / whiche nat shall alway be determined by the Iuges / nat by .xii. men And it nedeth nat to assigne any reason / why they were fyrste receyued for maximes for it suffiseth that they be nat agaiÌ„st the law of reason nor the law of god / and that they haue alway be taken for lawe And suche maximes be nat onely holden for law / but also other cases lyke vnto theÌ„ all thynges that necessarily foloweth vpoÌ„ the same / ar to be reduced to lyke law And therfore moste coÌ„meÌ„ly there be assigned some reasons or coÌ„sideracion why suche maximes be resonable to the intente that other cases lyke may the more conueniently be applyed to them And they be of the same strength effect in the law as statutes be And though the generall custome of the realme be the strength warraunte of the sayd maximes as they be of the generall customes of the realme / yet because the sayd generall customes be in maner knowen throughe the realme as well to them that be vnlerned as lerned / may lightly be had knowen and that with lytell studye And the sayd maximes be onely knoweÌ„ in the kynges courtes or amoÌ„ge them that take great studie in the lawe of the realme / amonge fewe other persones Therfore they be set in this writtynge for seuerall groundes he that
partie Also where there can be had no sufficieÌ„t prouffe / there can be no remedye in the Chauncerye / no more than there maye be in the spirituall courte And bycause thou haste gyuen an occasion to speke of conscience / I wolde gladly here thy oppynion where coÌ„scieÌ„ce shal be ruled after the lawe / and where the lawe shal be ruled after conscieÌ„ce ¶ Doc. And of that mater I wolde lykewyse gladly here thy oppinion / specially in cases grouÌ„dyd vpon the lawes of Enlgande / for I haue nat herde but lytell therof in tyme past / but byfore thou put any cases therof I wolde that thou woldest shewe me how those two questioÌ„s after thy oppinion are to be vnderstande ¶ Of what lawe this question is to be vnderstande that is to say / where coÌ„scieÌ„ce shal be ruled after the lawe The .xix. Chapitre STudent The lawe wherof mencion is made in this question that is to say where conscience shal be ruled by the lawe / is nat as me semeth to be vnderstande only of the lawe of reason / of the lawe of god / but also of the lawe of man that is nat contrary to the lawe of reason nor the lawe of god but that it is supperadded vnto them for the better orderynge of the comon welth / for suche a lawe of man is alwayes to be sette as a rule in coÌ„science so that it is nat lawful for no man to go fro it on the one syde ne on the other / for suche a lawe of man hath nat only the strength of mannes lawe / but also of the lawe of reason / or of the law of god / wherof it is dyriuied / for lawes made by man whiche haue receyued of god power to make lawes be made by god And therfore coÌ„scieÌ„ce muste be ordered by that lawe / as it muste be vpon the lawe of god / vpon the lawe of reason And ferthermore that lawe wherof meÌ„cion is made in the latter ende of the chapitre next byfore that is to saye in that question wherin it is asked where the lawe is to be lefte forsaken for conscience / is nat to be vnderstande of the lawe of reason nor of the lawe of god for tho two lawes maye nat be lefte / nor it is nat to be vnderstande of the lawe of man that is made in particuler cases / that is consonant to the lawe of reason / to the lawe of god / that yet that lawe shuld be lefte for coÌ„science for of suche a lawe made by man coÌ„scieÌ„ce muste be ruled / as is sayd byfore Nor it is nat to be vndepstaÌ„de of a lawe made by man coÌ„maundynge or prohybitynge any thynge to be done that is agaynste the lawe of reason or the lawe of god For if any lawe made by man / bynde any person to any thyng that is agaynste the sayd lawes / it is no lawe / but a corrupcion a manifeste errour Therfore after them that be lerned in the lawes of Englande / the sayde question that is to saye where the lawe is to be lefte for coÌ„science and where nat / is to be vnderstande in diuers maners after diuers rules / as here after shall somwhat be touched ¶ Fyrste many vnlerned persones byleue that it is lawfull for them to do with good conscience / all thynges whiche if they do them / they shall nat be punysshed therfore by the lawe / though the law doth nat warraunt them to do that they do / but onely when it is done doth nat for some reasonable coÌ„sideracion punysshe hym that dothe it / but leuyth it onely to his coÌ„science And therfore many persones do oft tymes that they shulde nat do / kepe as theyr owne that / that in coÌ„scieÌ„ce tey ought to restore / wherof there is in the lawes of Englande this case ¶ If two men haue a woode ioyntly / the one of them selleth the wood kepeth all the mony hollye to hym selfe In this case his felowe shall haue no remedye agaynste hym by the lawe / for as they whan they toke the woode ioyntlye put eche other in truste / were contented to occupy togyther so the lawe sufferyth them to ordre the profittes therof accordynge to the truste that eche of them put other in And yet if one toke all the profittes / he is bounde in coÌ„science to restore the halfe to his felowe for as the lawe gyueth hym ryght onlye to the halfe lande / so it gyueth hym ryght only in coÌ„scieÌ„ce to the halfe ê“fittes And yet neuertheles it can nat be sayd in that case / that the lawe is agaynst coÌ„science / for the lawe neyther wyllyth ne coÌ„maundyth that one shulde take all the ê“fittes / but leuyth it to theyr coÌ„science so that no defaute can be founde in the lawe / but in hym that taketh al the profittes to hym selfe may be assigned defaute / whiche is bounde in conscieÌ„ce to reforme if he wyll saue his soule / though he can nat be compelled therto by the lawe And therfore in this case other lyke / that oppinion which some haue / that they may do with coÌ„science all that they shal nat be punysshed for by the lawe if they do it / is to be lefte for coÌ„scieÌ„ce / but the lawe is nat to be lefte for conscience ☞ Addicion ⧠Also many men thynke that if a man haue laÌ„de that another hath tytle to / if he that hath the ryght shal nat by the accion that is gyuen hym by the law to recouere his ryght by recouere damagê / that then he that hath the lande is also discharged of damages in conscience and that is a great errour in conscience / for though he can nat be compelled to yelde the damagê by no mannes lawe / yet he is compelled therto by the lawe of reason by the lawe of god / wherby we be bounde to do as we wolde be done to / and that we shal nat coueyte our neyghbours good And therfore if tenant in tayle be disseased the disseasour dyeth seased / and then the heyre iÌ„ the tayle bryngeth a Formedon recoueryth the lande / no damages for the lawe gyueth hym no damage in that case yet the tenant by coÌ„scieÌ„ce is bounden to yelde damages to the heyre in tayle fro the dethe of his ancestre Also it is taken by some men / that the lawe muste be lefte for conscience where the lawe dothe nat suffre a man to denye that he hath byfore affermed in court of record / or for that he hath wylfully excluded hym selfe therof for some other cause / as if the doughter that is only heyre to her father wyll sue lyuerey with her suster that is bastarde / in that case she shall nat be after receyued to say that her suster is bastarde in so moche that if her suster take halfe the lande with her / there is no remedy agaynst her by the law And
of a statute shal be taken ferther than the expresse letter stretcheth / but yet there may no entent be taken agaynst the expresse wordes of the statute / for that shulde be rather an interpretacion of the statute than an exposicioÌ„ it can nat be reasonably taken / but that the inteÌ„t of the makers of the statute was that the lande shuld remayne continually in the heyres of the tayle as longe as the tayle endureth / there can no ioyntour be made neyther by dede nor be recouerye / but that the tayle must therby be discontinued / therfore this case of ioyntoure is not lyke to the sayd cases of tenant in dower or tenauÌ„t by the courtesie / for the title of dowrye of tenaunty by the curtesye groweth moste specially by the continuauÌ„ce of the possessioÌ„ in the heyres of the tayle but it is nat so of ioyntoures / therfore by the onely dede of the tenaunte in tayle / there maye no Ioyntour be lawfully made agaynste the expresse wordes of the statute And if there be any made by waye of recouerye / than it semeth that it muste be put vnder the same rewle as other recoueryes muste be of landes intayled ☞ The thyrde question of the Student / concernynge tayled landes ⸫ The .xxix. Chapitre STudent If IohnÌ„ at noke beyng seased of landes in fee of his mere mocioÌ„ make a feoffement of a certayne landes to the inteÌ„t that the feoffes shall therof make a gyfte to the sayde Iohan at noke to haue to him and to his heyres of his body and they make the gyft accordinge And after the sayd Iohan at noke falleth in to dette / wherefore he is taken put in pryson / and therupon for payment of his dettes he selleth the same lande / and for suertye of the byer he suffereth a recouerie to be had agaynst hym in suche maner as byfore appereth / whether standeth that recouerye with conscience or nat ¶ Docto r I wolde here make a litell digression to aske the another question or that I made answere to thyne that is to say to fele thy mynde howe that lawe by the whiche the body of the dettoure shal be taken caste in to pryson there to remayne tyll he haue payde the dette maye stande with conscieÌ„ce specially if the haue nothynge to paye it with / for as it semeth if he wyll relinquisshe his goodes / whiche in some lawes is called in laten Cedere bonis that he shall nat be inprysoned / and that is to vnderstande moste specially if he be fallen in to pouertye and nat through his owne defaute ¶ Student There is no lawe in this realme that the defendaunt may in any case Cedere bonê / and as me semeth if there were suche a lawe it shulde nat be indifferent / for as to the knowlege of hym that the money is owynge to the dettoure mighte Cedere bonis / that is to saye relinquisshe his goodes / and yet retayne to him selfe secretely greate ryches And therefore that lawe in suche case semeth more indiffereÌ„t and rightouse that committeth suche a dettour to the conscieÌ„ce of the plaiÌ„tyfe to whome the money is owynge thaÌ„ that coÌ„mitteth hym to the coÌ„science of hiÌ„ that is the dettour / for in the dettour some defaute maye be assigned / but in hym to whome the money is owynge maye be assinged no defaut ¶ Doctour But if he to whome the dette is owinge / knoweth that the dettoure hath nothyng to pay the det with / that he is falleÌ„ in to that pouertie by some casualtie And nat throughe his owne defaute / doth the lawe of Englande holde that he maye with good conscience kepe the dettour styll in pryson tyll he be payde ¶ Student nay verily but it thinketh more resonable to appoynt the libertie the iugement of conscience in that case to the dette than to the dettoure / for the cause byfore rehersed And than the dette / if he knowe the trouthe is as thou haste sayde bounde in conscience to lett hym go at lybertie though he be nat compellable thereto by the lawe And therfore admittynge it for this tyme / that the law of EnglaÌ„de in this poynt is good iuste I pray the that thou wilte make answere to my question ¶ Doctour I wyll with good wyll / therfore as me semeth for as moch as it appereth that the sayd gyft was made of the mere liberte fre wyll of the said Iohan at noke / without any recompeÌ„ce that therefore it can nat be otherwyse taken / but that the intent of the sayde IohaÌ„ at noke as well at the tyme of the sayd feoffement / as at the tyme that he receyued agayne the sayd gyfte in the tayle / was that if he happened afterwardes to falle in to pouertie / that he might alyen the sayd laÌ„de to releue hym with / for howe may it be though that a man wyll so moche pondre the welthe of his heyre / that he wyll forget hym selfe / so it semeth that nat onely the sayde recouerye standeth with conscience but also that if he had made onely a feoffement of the lande that that feoffement shulde be in conscience a good barre of the tayle / but if the sayd feoffement and gyfte had ben made in consideracioÌ„ of any recompence of money or for any matrimony or suche other / than the feoffemente of the sayd Iohan at noke shulde nat bynde his heyre / and if he than suffred any recouerye thereof than that recouerye shulde be of lyke effecte as other recoueries whereof we haue treated byfore / the whiche I sayd it was good to fauour rather for theyr multitude than for the conscience the same lawe is that if the sonne and the heyre of the sayd Iohan at noke in case that the sayde gyfte was made without recompence alyen the lande for pouertye after the deth of his father that recouerye byndeth nat but as other recoueries do / for it caÌ„ nat be thought that the enteÌ„t of the father was that any of his heyres in tayle shulde for any necessite dissherite all other heyres in tayle that shuld come after hym but for hiÌ„ selfe me thinketh it is resonable to iuge in suche maner as I haue sayd byfore ¶ Student And though the intent of the sayde Iohan at noke whan he made the sayde feoffement / and whan he toke agayne the sayde gyfte in tayle were that if he fell in nede that he mighte alien yet I suppose that he maye nat alien though percase for the more suerte he declared his intent to be suche vpon the lyueries of season for that intente was contrary to the gyfte that he frelye toke vpon hym and whan any intent or condicion is declared or reserued agaynst the state that any maÌ„ maketh or accepteth than suche an inteÌ„t or condicion is voyde by the lawe as by a case that hereafter foloweth wyll appere / that is to
rayle / nor the righte of entre that is gyuen by the statute / so as me semeth his nexte heyre maye therefore entre ¶ Student As I perceyue all thy dowte is in this case bycause the assent of the heyre was after the recouerie / for if it hadde ben at the tyme of the recouerie as if the heyre had ben vouched to warrantye in the same recouerie and he had enterred and thereupon the Iugemente had be gyuen thou agreest well / that that recouerye shulde haue auoyded the tayle for euer ¶ Doctoure That is true for it is in the expresse wordes of the statute / but whan the assente is after the recouerye / than me thynketh it is nat so / ne that the right of the fyrste tayle / whiche was reuyed by the sayde statute shall nat be extincte by his fyne / no more than it shall in other tayles ¶ Student I wyll be aduised vpon thy opinion in this mater / but yet one thynge wolde I moue ferther vpō this statute and that is this Some saye that by this statute all other recoueries that haue ben had / ouer and beside these recoueries of 〈◊〉 be affermed / for they say that syth the parliamēt at the makīg of this statute / knewe well that many other recoueries were than vsed and had to defete tayles and that it was lyke that they wolde so continue / which neuertheles the parliament dyd nat prohibite for the time to come as it dyde the sayde recoueries of ioyntours that it is therefore to suppose that they thought that they shulde stāde with lawe and consciēce but bycause iointoures were made rather for the sauynge of the inheritaunce of the husbande / than to destroy the inheritaunce / they say that the parliament thought and adiuged the alienacions and recoueries of suche ioyntours to be agaynste the lawe and consciēce and nat the alienacion of other landes entayled / for if they had they say / that the parliament wolde haue aduoyded recoueries of tayled landes generally aswell as it dyd of recoueries of ioyntoures ¶ Doctoure As to that opinion I wyll answere the thus for this tyme / that though that the makers of the sayde estatute onely put awaye recoueries of ioyntoures / and nat other recoueries that yet it can nat be taken therfore that theyr entent was that the other recoueries shulde stande good and perfite / for they speke thā onely of ioyntours bycause there was no complaynte made in the parliament at that tyme / but agaynst recoueries had of ioyntours / and therfore it semeth that they intended nothynge concernynge other recoueries but that they shulde be of the same effecte as they were byfore and no otherwyse And that will appere more playnly thus / though the makers of the sayd estatute entended to put awaye and adnull suche recoueries as shulde be made of ioyntours after a certayne day limitted in the statute / that yet they entended nat to aduoyde ne afferme suche recoueries of ioyntours as were passed byfore that tyme if they intended nat to aduoyde ne afferme the recoueries had of ioyntoures byfore that tyme than howe can it be taken that they intended to put awaye or afferme other recoueries that were passed byfore that tyme and nat of ioyntours / that wolde nat afferme ne put awaye recoueries passed of ioyntoures byfore that time And so as it semeth they intended to spare the multitude of them that were passed of bothe and nat to comforte any to take them after that tyme. ¶ Student I am contente thy oppinion stande for this tyme / and I wyll aske the another question ☞ The .vi. question of the Student / concernynge tayled landes The .xxxii. Chapitre STudent If tenaunt in tayle be disseased / and dye and an auncestre collaterall to the heyre in tayle release with a warrauntye and dye / and the warrātye descendeth vpō the heyre in the tayle / whether is he thereby barred in conscience / as he is in the law ¶ Doctour Bycause our principall intēt at this tyme is to speke of recoueries and nat of warrāties and also bycause it hath ben of longe tyme takē for a principall maxime of the law that it shuld be a barre to the heyre as well that claymeth by a fee simple as by a state tayly / and for that also that it was nat put away by the sayde statute of westminster the .i. which ordayned the tayle I wil nat at this time make the an answere then / but will take a respite to be aduised ¶ Student Than I praye the yet or we departe shewe me what was the moste principall cause that moued the so moue this question of recoueries had of tayled landes ¶ Doctour This moued me thereto / I haue perceyued many tymes that there be many dyuers oppinions of those recoueries whether they stande with conscience or nat / that it is to dowte that many persones rē into offence of conscience thereby And therefore I thought to fele thy mynde in them whether I coulde perceyue that it were clere / that they serued to breke the tayle in lawe conscience / or that it were clerely agaynste conscience so to breke the the tayle / or that it were a mater in dowt and if it appered a matter in dowte / or that it appered that the matter were vsed clerely agaynste conscience / than I thoughte to do somwhat to make the mater appere as it is to the intent that they that haue the rewle and the charge ouer the people as well the spirituall men as temporall men / shulde the rather endeuer them to se it reformed for the common welth of the people / as well in bodye as in soule For whan any thynge is vsed to the displesure of god / it hurreth nat onelye the body but also the soule And tēporall rewlers haue nat onely cure of the bodyes / but also of the soules / and shall answere for them if they perysshe ī theyr defaute and bycause it semeth by the more apparaunt reason that the tayles be nat brokē ne fully auoyded by the sayd recoueries / that yet neuertheles the great multitude of thē that be passed is righte moche to be pondered Therefore it were very good to prohibite them for tyme to come / to put awaye suche ambiguities and dowtes as ryse now by occasion of the sayde recoueries / and so they be but as snares to deceyue the people / and so wyll they be as longe as they be suffered to continue And me thynketh verily that it were therfore right expediēt that tayled landes shulde from hensforthe eyther be made so stronge in the lawe that the tayle shulde nat be brokē by recouerie fyne with proclamacion collaterall warrantye nor otherwyse / or els that all tayls shulde be made fee simple / so that euery man that liste to sell his lande mighte sell it by his bare feoffement and without any scriple or gruge of conscience thā
/ wherby it is ordeyned that a tenant for terme of lyfe shall haue in ayde / for he can nat say but that he toke a greater estate by the lyuerey of season that was made to hym whiche yet coÌ„tinueth than for terme of lyfe / so I thynke hym nat bounde to make any restitucion to hym in the reuercion in this case for the waste ¶ Do. Is thy mynde onely to proue that thê tenant is nat bounde to make restitucion to hym in the reuercion for the waste or that thou thynkest that he may with clere conscieÌ„ce do all maner of wast ¶ Stud. I entende to proue no more but that he is nat bouÌ„de to restitucion to hym in the reuercion ¶ Do. Than I wyll ryght well agree to thyn oppinion for the reason that thou haste made / but if thy mynde had ben to haue proued that he myght with clere conscience haue done all maner of waste I wolde haue thought the contrary therto / and that the tenant in fee simple may nat do all maner of waste destruction with conscieÌ„ce / as to pull downe houses make pastures of cyties townes / or to do suche other actes whiche be agaynst the comon welthe And therfore some wyll say that tenant in fee simple may nat with coÌ„scieÌ„ce destroye his wodes cole pyttes wherby a hole contrey for theyr money haue had fuell And yet though he do so he is nat bounde by conscience to make restitucion to no person in certayne But now I pray the or thou ê“cede to the seconde case that thou wylte somwhat shewe me what thou meanest whan thou sayest at the comon lawe it was thus or thus I vnderstande nat fully what thou meanest by that tme at the comon lawe ¶ Stud. I shall with good wyl shewe the what I mene therby ¶ What is ment by this terme whan it is sayd / thus it was at the comon lawe The seconde chapitre STudent The comon lawe is taken thre maner of ways Fyrst it is taken as the law of this realme of EnglaÌ„de disceyuered from all other lawes / vnder this maner taken It is oftentymes argued in the lawes of Englande what maters ought of ryght to be determined by the comon law / what by the admiralles courte or by the spirituall courte And also if an obligacion bere date out of the realme / as in Spayne / FrauÌ„ce / or suche other It is sayd in the lawe trouthe it is that they be nat pledable at the comon lawe Secondely the comon lawe is taken as the kynges courtes of his benche or of the comon place / it is so taken whan a ple is remoued out of auncien demeane for that the lande is franke fee and pledable at the comon lawe / that is to saye in the kynges courte nat in ancien demeane And vnder this maner taken / it is ofteÌ„tymes pleaded also in base courtes as in court Barons / the Contie the court of Pypouders and suche other that this mater or that cÌ„ ought nat to be determined in that courte but at the comon lawe / that is to saye in the kynges courtes cÌ„ Thyrdely by the comon lawe is vnderstande suche thyngê as were lawe before any statute made in that point that is in question so that / that poynt was holden for lawe by the general or particuler customes maximes of the realme or by the lawe of reason the lawe of god no other lawe added to them by statute nor otherwyse / as iÌ„ the case before rehersed in the fyrste chapitre where it is sayde that at the comon lawe tenante by the curtesy tenant in dower were punysshable of waste / that is to say / that before any statute of waste made they were punysshable of waste by the grounde maximes of the lawe vsed before the statute made in that pointe / but tenant for terme yf lyfe ne for terme of yeres were nat punysshable by the sayde groundes maximes tyll by the statute remedy was gyuen agaynste them therfore it is sayde that at the comon law they were nat punysshable of waste ¶ Doc. I pray the now procede vnto the seconde question ¶ The seconde question of the student The thyrde chapitre STudent If a man be outlawed neuer had knowlege of the sute / whether may the kynge take all his goodes reteyne them in conscience as he maye by the lawe ¶ Docour What is the reason why they be forfeyted by the lawe in that case ¶ Stud. The very reason is for that it is an olde custume an olde maxime in the lawe that he that is outlawed shall forfeyte his goodes to the kynge / and the cause why that maxime began was this WhaÌ„ a maÌ„ had done a trespace to another or an other offence wherfore processe of outlagary laye / he that the offence was done to had taken an accion agaynst hym accordyng to the lawe / if he had absented hym selfe and had had no laÌ„des there had ben no remedye agaynst hym for after the lawe of EnglaÌ„de no man shal be condemned without aunswere / or that he appere and wyll nat answere / except it be by reason of any statute Therfore for the punisshement of suche offenders as wolde nat appeare to make answere to be iustified in the kyngê courte / it hath ben vsed without tyme of mynde / that an attachemeÌ„t in that case shulde be directed agaynste hym returnable into the kynges benche or the comon place / and if it were returned there vpoÌ„ that he had nought wherby he might be attached that than shulde go forthe a Capias to take his persone / and after an alias Capias / than a Pluries and if it were returned vpon euery of the sayd Capias that he coulde nat be founde and he appered nat than shulde an ExigeÌ„t be dyrected agaynste hym whiche shulde haue so longe daye of returne / that fyue couÌ„ties myght be holden before the returne therof and in euery of the sayde fyue conties the defendant to be solemlye called and if he appered nat / than for his contumacy and disobedience of the lawe the coroners to gyue iugement that he shal be outlawed / wherby he shall forfeyt his goodes to the kynge lese diuers other aduantages in the law y nedeth nat here to be remeÌ„bred nowe And so bycause he was in this case called accordynge to the lawe appered nat it semeth that the kyng hath good tytle to the goodes bothe in lawe coÌ„scieÌ„ce ¶ Doctoure If he had knowelege of the sute in very dede it semeth the kynge hath good tytle in coÌ„science as thou sayest But if he had no knowlege therof it semeth nat so / for the defaut that is adiuged in hiÌ„ as it appereth by thyne owne reason is his contumacie and disobedience of the lawe / and if he were ignoraunt of the sute / than can there ben assigned in
to the other partie / but if a man that hathe taken sufficient studye in the lawe / mystake the lawe in some poiÌ„t that is harde to come to the knowle of he is nat bounden to suche restitucion / for he hath done that in him is / but if suche a maÌ„ knowyng the lawe gyue couÌ„sayle agaynst the lawe he is bounde in conscience to restitucion of costes damages as thou hast sayd byfore / and also to make amendes for the vntrouthe ¶ Student What if he aske counsayle of one that he knowethe is nat lerned and he gyueth him counsayle iÌ„ this case to entre by force wherof he entreth ¶ Doctoure Than be they bothe bounde in conscience to restitucion / that is to say / the party if he be sufficient and els the couÌ„sayloure bycause he assented and gaue couÌ„sayle to the wronge ¶ StudeÌ„t But what is the counsaylloure in that case bounden to / to hym that he gaue counsayle to ¶ Doctoure To nothynge for there was as moche defaut in him that asked the couÌ„sayle as in hym that gaue it / for he asked couÌ„sayle of hym that he knewe was ignoraunt / and in the other was defaut for the presumpcion that he wolde take vpon him to gyue counsaile in that he was ignorauÌ„t in ¶ Stud. But what if he that gaue the counsayle knewe nat but that he that asked it had trust in hym that he coulde and wolde gyue hym good counsayle and that he asked couÌ„sayle for to order wel his conscience howe be it that the truth was that he coulde nat so do ¶ Doct. Than is he that gaue the counsayle bouÌ„den to offer to the other amendes / but yet the other may nat take it in conscience ¶ Student That were somwhat perilous for haply he wold take it thoughe he haue no ryght to it / excepte the worlde be well amended ¶ Doc. What thynkest thou in that amendement ¶ Sudent I trust euery maÌ„ wyl do nowe in this worlde as they wolde be done to / speake as they thynke / restore where they haue done wroÌ„g / refuse money if they haue no ryght to it though it be offred them do that they ought for to do by coÌ„scieÌ„ce / though they can nat be coÌ„pelled to it by no lawe that none wyl gyue couÌ„saile but that they shal thynke to be accordynge to coÌ„science / and if they do to do that they can to refourme it / and nat to entremit them selfe with suche maters as they be ignoraunt in / but in suche cases to sende them that aske the counsayle to other that they shall thynke be more connynge than they are ¶ Doct. It were very well if it were as thou haste sayd / but the more petie is it is nat alwaye so / specially there is great defaute in gyuers of counsayle / for some for theyr owne lucre and profyte gyue couÌ„sayle to coÌ„forte other to sue that they knowe haue no ryght / but I truste there be but fewe of theÌ„ / some for drede / some for fauoure / some for malyce / and some vpon confederacies and to haue as moche done for them a nother tyme to hyde the trouthe And some take vpon them to gyue counsayle in that they be ignoraunt in / and yet whaÌ„ they knowe the trouthe wyll nat withdrawe that they haue misdone / for they thynke it shulde be greately to theyr rebuke / and suche ê‘sones folowe nat this couÌ„sayle that sayth That we haue vnaduisedly done lette vs with good aduyse reuoke agayne ¶ Student And if a maÌ„ gyue couÌ„sayle in this realme after as his lerninge and coÌ„science gyueth hym / and regardethe nat the lawes of the realme / gyueth he good counsayle ¶ Doc. If the lawe of the realme be nat iÌ„ that case agaynst the lawe of god nor agaynste the law of reasoÌ„ he gyueth nat good couÌ„sayle / for euery man is bouÌ„de to folowe the lawe of the contrey where he is / so it be nat agaynste the sayd lawes / so maye the case be that he may bynde hym selfe to restitucion ¶ Student At this tyme I wyll no ferther trouble the in this question ⧠The .xviii. question of the student The .xx. Chapitre ¶ STudent If a man of his mere mocion gyue landê to Henry herte and to his heyres by indenture vpon condicion that he shall yerely at a certayne daye pay to Iohanat Style out of the same lande a certayne rent / and if he do nat that than it shal be lawful to the sayd Iohan at style to entre c. if the rent iÌ„ this case be nat paied to Iohan at style / whether maye the sayd Iohan at style entre in to the landes by coÌ„science thoughe he maye nat entre by the lawe ¶ Doctour May he nat entre in this case by the lawe syth the wordê of the indenture be that he shall entre ¶ StudeÌ„t No verelye for there is an auncient maxime in the lawe that no man shall take aduauntage of a condicion but he that is ê‘tie or priuey to the condicion / and this maÌ„ is nat partie nor priuey / wherfore he shall haue none aduauntage of it ¶ Doctoure Thoughe he can haue none aduauntage of it as partie yet bycause it appereth euidentely that the intente of the gyuer was that if he were nat payed of the rente that he shulde haue the lande It semeth that in coÌ„science he ought to haue it thoughe he can nat haue it by the lawe ¶ Student In many cases the entente of the partie is voyde to all intentes if it be nat grounded accordynge to the lawe And therfore if a man make a lease to a nother for terme of life / and after of his mere mocion he confermeth his estate for terme of lyfe / to remayne after his dethe to a nother and to his heyres / in this case that remayndre is voyde in lawe and conscience / for by the lawe there can no remayndre depeÌ„de vpon no estate but that the same estate begiÌ„neth at the same time that the remaiÌ„dre dothe / and in this case the estate beganne byfore and the confirmacion enlarged nat his estate nor gaue hym no newe estate / but if a lease be made to a man for terme of a nother mannes lyfe and after the lessour onely of his mere mocion confermeth the lande to his lesse for terme of his owne lyfe the remayndre ouer in fee / this is a good remayndre in lawe and conscience / and so me thynketh the intent of the partie shall nat be regarded in this case ¶ Doctoure And in the fyrst case that thou hast put me thynketh though it passe nat by way of remayndre that yet it shall passe as by waye of graunt of the reuercion / for euery dede shal be takeÌ„ most stronge agaynst the grauÌ„tour and the takyng of the dede iÌ„ this case is an attournament in it selfe ¶ StudeÌ„t That can nat be / for he in the remayndre
/ yet I meruayle howe suche an vse may be reserued against a fyne that is one of the hyghest recordes that is in the law / and is taken in the lawe of so hyghe effecte that it shulde make an ende of all stryffes / or agaynst a recouere that is ordeyned in the lawe for them that be wronged to recouer theyr ryght by / and me thiÌ„keth that great encoÌ„uenience and hurte may folowe whan suche recordes may so lyghtly be auoyded by a secrete intente or vse of the ê‘ties and by a nude and bare auerment and mater in dede / and specially sythe suche a mater in dede maye be aleged that is nat true wherby may rise great strife bytwene the parties / and great coÌ„fusion and vncertaynte in the lawe / but neuertheles sythe our intente is nat at this tyme to treate of that mater I pray the touche shortly some of the causes why there hath ben so many persones put in estate of landes to the vse of other as there hathe ben / for as I here say / fewe men be sole seased of theyr owne landes ¶ Student There hath ben many causes therof / of the whiche some be put away by diuerse statutê / and some remayne yet / wherfore thou shalte vnderstande that some haue put theyr lande in feoffent secretely to the inteÌ„t that they that haue ryght to the lande shuld nat knowe agaynst whome to bryng theyr accion / that is moche what remedied by diuerse statutes that gyue accioÌ„s agaynst pernours and takers of the profites And somtyme suche feoffemeÌ„tes of trust haue ben made to haue mayntenaunce and berynge of theyr feoffes / whiche peraduenture were great lordes or rulers in the countreye / and therfore to put a way suche mayntenaunce treble damagê be gyuen by statute against theÌ„ that make suche feoffementes for mayntenauÌ„ce And soÌ„tyme they were made to the vse of mort mayne whiche myght than be made with out forfayture thoughe it were prohibite that the freeholde myght nat be gyuen in mortmayne But that is put away by the statute of Rycharde the seconde And somtyme they were made to defraude the lordes of wardê / relyefs / harryots / and of the landes of theyr vylleyns / but those poiÌ„tes be put away by diuerse statutes made iÌ„ the tyme of kynge Henry the .vii. Somtyme they were made to auoyde execucions vpon statutes Staple / Statute MarchauÌ„te / Recognisaunce / and remedy is prouided for that that a maÌ„ shall haue execucion of all suche landes as any persone is seased of to the vse of hym that is so bounde at the tyme of execucion sued iÌ„ the .xix. yere of H. the .vii. And yet remayne feoffementes / fynes / and recoueres in vse for many other causes / in maner as many as there dyd byfore the sayde estatutes And one cause is why they be yet thus vsed is to put away tenauncy by the curtesy and tytles of dower An other cause is for that landê in vse shall nat be put in execucion vpon a statute staple / statute marchaunt / nor recognisaunce / but suche as be in the handê of the recognisour tyme of the execucion sued And somtyme landê be put iÌ„ vse that they shulde nat be put in execucion vpon a wryt of Extendi facias ad valenciaÌ„ And somtyme suche vses be made that he to whose vse cÌ„ may declare his wyl theron / somtyme for surety of diuerse couenauntes in indentures / of mariage / other bargains / and these two last articles be the chyefe principal causes why so moche laÌ„de is put in vse Also landê in vse be no asses neyther in a Fourmedone nor in an accion of Det agaynste the heyre ne they shall nat be put in execucion by an Elegit sued vpon a recouere as some men say and these be the very chyefe causes as I nowe remeÌ„bre why so moche lande standeth iÌ„ vse as there doth / and all the sayd vses be reserued by the intente of the parties vnderstande or agreed bytwene them / and that many tymes dyrectely agaynst the wordes of feoffement / fyne / or recouere / and that is done by the lawe of reason as is aforesayd ¶ Doctour May nat an vse be assigned to a straunger as well as to be reserued to the feoffour if the feoffour so appoynted it vpon his feoffement ¶ Student yes as well / in lykewyse to the feoffe and that vpon a fre gyfte without any bargayne or recompence if the feoffour so wyl ¶ Doctour What if no feoffement be made but that a man grauÌ„t to his feoffe that fro thens forthe he shall stande seased to his owne vse / is nat the vse chaunged though there be no recompence ¶ Student I thynke yes for there was an vse in Esse byfore the gyfte whiche he may as lawfully gyue away as he myght the lande if he had it in possession ¶ Doc. And what if a man beynge seased of lande in fee graunte to a nother of his mere mocion without bargayne or recompeÌ„ce that he fro thens forthe shal be seased to the vse of the other / is nat that graunte good ¶ Student I suppose that it is nat good / for as I take the lawe a man can nat commence an vse but by lyuerey of seasoÌ„ or vpon a bargayne or some other recompence ¶ Doctoure I holde me contented with that thou haste sayd in this Chaphitre for this tyme and I pray the shewe me what diuersite thou putteste bytwene those two cases that thou hast byfore reherced in the xx Chapitre and in the .xxi. Chapitre of this present boke ¶ Student I wyl with good wyll ⧠The diuersite bytwene two cases here after folowynge / wherof one is put in the .xx. Chapitre and the other in the .xxi. Chapitre of this present boke The .xxiii. Chapitre ¶ STudent The fyrste case of the sayd two cases is this A man maketh a feoffement by dede indented vpon a condicion that the feoffe shall paye a certayne rente yerely to a straunger cÌ„ if he paye it nat that it shal be lawfull to the straunger to entre into the lande In this case I sayd byfore in the .xx. Chapitre that the strauÌ„ger myght nat entre bycause that he was nat pryuey vnto the condicion But I sayd that iÌ„ that case the feoffour myght lawfully reentre by the fyrste wordê of the indenture bycause they implye a condicioÌ„ in the lawe that the other wordes that is to saye that the straunger shulde entre be voyde in lawe and conscience And therfore I sayd ferther that whan the feoffour had reeÌ„tred that he was seased of the laÌ„de to his owne vse nat to the vse of the straÌ„ger / thoughe his entent at the makyng of the feoffement were that the straunger after his entre shuld haue had the laÌ„d to his owne vse if he myghte haue entred by the law And the cause why I thynke that the
that he shall nat call executours to accoÌ„pte ¶ Student I am somwhat in dout theriÌ„ / but it semeth that if it myght be enacted by statute that all willes shulde be voyde as is aforesayde that thaÌ„ it myght be enacted that no man shulde haue auctoritie to call none to accompte vpon suche willes but suche as the statute shall therin appoiÌ„te / for he that may do the more may do the lesse / nat withstandynge I wyll nothynge speke determinately in that poynt at this tyme / ne I meane nat that it were good for to make a statute that all wylles shulde be voyde / for I thynke them righte expedient / but myne inteÌ„t is to proue that the comon lawe may ordeyne the tyme of the full age / as well in wylles of temporal thynges as otherwyse / also that no will shal be made And if it may so do than moche stronger it belongeth to the kynges lawes to interpretate willes concernyng teÌ„porall thynges as well whan they come iÌ„ argument before his Iuges as whaÌ„ they come in argument before spirituall Iuges that they ought nat to be iuged by seuerall lawes that is to saye by the spiritual iuges in one maner by the kinges iuges in another maner ☞ If a man be conuicte of heresye before the ordinari / whether his goodes be forfayth The .xxix. Chapitre DOctoure It appereth in Summa angelica in the title Donatio prima the .xiii. article / that he that is an heretyke may nat make executoures / for in the lawe his goodes be forfet / what is the lawe of the realme therin ¶ Student If a man be conuicte of heresie and abiure he hath forfet no goodes / but if he be conuicte of heresye be deliuered to laye meÌ„nes haÌ„des than hath he forfet all his goodes that he hath at the tyme that he is deliuered to them / thoughe he be nat put in execucion for the heresye / but his landes he shall nat forfet excepte he be dede for the heresye / than he shall forfet theÌ„ to the lordes of the fee / as in case of felonie excepte they be holden of the ordinarie / for thaÌ„ the kynge shal haue the forfeture / as it appereth by a statute made the seconde yere of kynge Henry the .v. the .vii. Chapitre ¶ Doctour Me thynket that as it belongeth onely to the churche to determine heresyes / that so it belongeth to the churche to determine what punisshemeÌ„t he shall haue for his heresye / excepte deth whiche they maye nat be iuges in / but if the churche decre that he shall therefore forfet his goodes me thiÌ„keth that they be forfet by that decre ¶ Student Nay veryly for they be teÌ„porall belonge to the iugement of the kynges court I thynke the ordinarie might haue set no fine vpon none empeched of heresye tyll it was ordeyned by the statute of Henry the .iiii. that he maye set a fyne in that case if he se cause / and than the kynge shall haue that fyne as in the sayde statute appereth ☞ Where diuers patrons be of an auousâ— the churche voydeth / the patroÌ„s varie in theyr presentementes / whether the bisshope shall haue libertye to present whiche of the encuÌ„beÌ„tes that he wyll or nat ⸫ The .xxx. Chapitre DOctoure This question is asked in SuÌ„ma rosella iÌ„ the title Patronê° the ix article there it appereth by the better oppinion that he may present whether clerke he wyll / howe be it the maker of the sayde summe / sayth that by the / rigoure of the lawe the bisshope in suche case may present a strauÌ„ger because the patroÌ„s agre nat / in the same chapitre patronus the .xv. article It is sayde that he muste be preferred that hath the moste merites and hath the moost parte of the patrons And if the nombre be egall / that than it is to coÌ„syder the merites of the patrons if they be of lyke merite / than maye the bisshop coÌ„mauÌ„de them to agre to present agayne And if they can nat yet agre than the libertie to present is gyueÌ„ to the bisshop to take whiche he wyll / if he may nat yet present without greate trouble than shall the bisshop order the churche in the beste maner he can / if he can nat order it / than shal he suspende the churche take awaye the relikes / to the rebuke of the patroÌ„s / if they will nat be so ordered than muste he aske helpe of the temporalitie / in the .xv. article of the sayde title Patronê° / It is asked whether it be expedient in suche case that the more parte of the patroÌ„s agre hauyng respecte to all the patrons / or that it suffise to haue the more parte in coÌ„parison of the lesse parte as thus There be .iiii. patrons two present one clerke the thyrde presenteth another the fourth another / he that is presented by .ii. hath nat the more parte in comparison of all patrons for they be egall / but he hath the more parte hauynge respect to the other presentemeÌ„tes / to this question it is answered that other the presentement is made of them that be of colage there is requisite the more parte hauiÌ„ge respecte to all the colage / or elles euery maÌ„ presenteth for hym selfe as comoÌ„ly do laye men that haue the patronage of theyr patrimony / than it suffiseth to haue the more parte in respecte of the other partes / doth nat the law of EnglaÌ„de agre to these diuersities ¶ StudeÌ„t No veryly ¶ Doctour What order than shal be takeÌ„ in the lawe of Englande if the patrons varie in theyr presentementes ¶ Student After the lawes of Englande this order shal be taken / if they be ioyntenauÌ„tes or tenauntes in comon of the patronage / they vary in presentemente the ordinary is nat bounden to admitte none of theyr clerkes nether the more parte nor the lesse / if the vi monethes passe or they agre theÌ„ he may present by the laps But he may nat preseÌ„t within the .vi. monethes / for if he do they maye agre brynge a Quare impedit agaynste hym / remoue his clerke / so the ordinarie shal be as distourboure And if the patrons haue the patronage by disceÌ„te as coperceners than is the ordinarie bounde to admitte the clerke of the eldest syster for the eldest shall haue the preferment in the lawe if she wyll / than at the nexte auoydaunce the nexte syster shal present so by turne one syster after another tyll all the systers or theyr heyres haue presented / and than the eldest syster shall begyn agayne / this is called a presentynge by turne / it holdeth alway betwene coperceners of an aduouson / excepte they agre to preseÌ„t togyder / or that they agre by coÌ„posicion to presente in some other maner / if they do so that agrement muste staÌ„de
onely maye disherite the house as by his cesser / or by leuieng of a crosse vpoÌ„ a house agaiÌ„st the statute therof made / in whiche case the house therby shall lese the laÌ„de / some say that by the comon lawe vpon his disclaymour in auourie a writ of righte of disclamour lieth / but if the gyfte be vpon condicion it standeth nether with law nor coÌ„scieÌ„ce that the Abbot shulde haue any more perfite or sure estate than was gyuen vnto hiÌ„ / therfore as the sayd estate was made to the house vpoÌ„ coÌ„dicioÌ„ so that estate may he auoyded for nat performyng of the coÌ„dicion / I thynke verily that this that I haue sayd is to beholdeÌ„ in this realme bothe in lawe conscience / that the decrees of the churche to the contrari bynde nat in thys case But if laÌ„des be gyuen to an Abbot to his coueÌ„t to the inteÌ„t to fynde a laÌ„pe / or to gyue certayne almes to poore meÌ„ / though the inteÌ„t be nat in those cases fulfilled / yet the feoffer nor hê heyres may nat reeÌ„tre for he reserued no reentre by expresse wordes / ne in the wordes whaÌ„ he sayth the entente to fynde a lampe or to gyue almes cÌ„ Is implyed no reentre / ne the feoffoure nor his heyres shall haue no remedye in suche cases / onelesse it be within the case of the statute of Westmynster the secoÌ„de that gyueth the Cessauâ—t de cantaria ☞ Whether a couenauÌ„t made vpoÌ„ a gyfte to the churche that it shall nat be aliened be good The .xxxv. Chapitre STudent In the sayde summe called Summa rosella in the sayde title alienacio / the .xiii. article is asked thê question / whether a couenaunt made vpon a gyft to the churche that it shall nat be aliened be good And the same question is moued agayne in the sayd summe called rosella / in the title condicio the fyrst article in Summa angelica / in the title Donatio prima / the .li. .lii. articles / the inteÌ„te of the question there is whether nat withstandynge that the condicion be good to some alienacions whether that yet it be good to restrayne alienacions for the redemption of them that be in captiuite vnder the infideles or for the greater aduauntage to the house / though the better opinioÌ„ be there that the condicion may nat be broken for redempcion of them that be in captiuite yet it is in maner a hole opinioÌ„ that it may be solde for the greater aduauntage to the house / for it is sayd there that it maye nat be taken but that the intente of the gyuer was so / therfore they calle the condicion that prohibiteth it to be solde condicio turpis that is to saye / a vyle condicion / wherfore they regarde it nat but verilie as I take it if a condicion may restrayne any maner of alienacion than it shall as well restrayne alienacions for the two causes before reherced as for any other causes / and thoughe me thynketh that that condicion is good after the lawes of the realme that vpon giftes to the church restrayneth alienacions yet I shal touche one reason that is made to the coÌ„trary / that is this There is a clere grounde in the lawe that if a feoffement be made to a comon person in fee vpon condicion that the feoffe shal nat alieÌ„ to no man that that condicion is voyde because it is contrary to the estate of a fee simple to bynde hym that hath that estate that he shulde nat aliene if he liste / some say that an Abbot that hath lande to hym to his successours hath as hygh as perfite a fee simple as hath a laye maÌ„ that hath lande to hym to his heyres / and therfore they say that it is as well agaynst the law of the realme to prohibit that the Abbot shall nat alien as it is to prohibit a lay maÌ„ therof / though it be therein true as they say as to the hyghnes of the estate yet me thynketh there is great diuersite betwene the cases concernyng theyr alienacioÌ„s / for whan landes be gyuen in fee simple to a comon person the inteÌ„t of the lawe is that the feoffe shall haue power to aliene / if he do aliene it is nat agaynst the inteÌ„t of the lawe ne yet agaynst the inteÌ„t of the feoffer / but whan landes be gyuen to an Abbot to his successours the intent of the lawe is also of the gyuer as it is to presume that it shulde remayne in the house for euer / therfore it is called mortmayne / that is to saye a ded haÌ„de as who saythe that it shall abyde there alway as a thynge ded to the house And therfore as I suppose the lawe will suffre that coÌ„dicioÌ„ to be good that is made to restrayne that suche mortmayne shulde nat be aliened that yet it may ê“hibit the same coÌ„dicion to be made vpon a feoffemeÌ„t made in fee simple to a maÌ„ to his heyres for that is the moste hyghe / the moste free the moste purest state that is in the law But the lawe suffreth suche a condicioÌ„ he made vpon a gyfte in tayse because the statute prohibiteth that no altenacion shulde be made therof And than as the law suffereth suche a condicion vpoÌ„ a gyfte in mort mayne / that is to saye / that it shall nat be aliened / to be good / than it iugeth the condicioÌ„ also accordyng to the wordes / that is to say / if the coÌ„dicion be generall that they shall aliene to no man as this case is that it shal be taken generaly accordynge to the wordes / it shall nat be takeÌ„ that the inteÌ„t of the gyuer was otherwyse thaÌ„ he expressed in his gift though percase if he were alyue hym selfe the questioÌ„ where asked hiÌ„ whether he wold be coÌ„teÌ„ted it shuld be alieued for the sayd two causes or nat / he wolde say ye / but whaÌ„ he is ded no maÌ„ hath authoritie to iÌ„terpretate his gyft otherwise thaÌ„ the law suffereth / ne otherwyse thaÌ„ the wordes of the gift be And if the coÌ„dicioÌ„ be special that is to say / that the laÌ„de shall nat be aliened to suche a maÌ„ or such a maÌ„ / thaÌ„ the coÌ„dicioÌ„ shal be takeÌ„ accordyng to the wordes / thaÌ„ they may be aliened as for that condicioÌ„ to any other but to them to whome it is expresselie prohibite that the lande shuld nat be aliened to And if the laÌ„des in that case be aliened to one that is nat excepte in the condicion / than he may aliene the lande to hym that is fyrste excepted withoute brekynge of the condicion / for condicions be taken straytely in the lawe without equitie And thus me thynketh that because the sayde condicion is generall restreyneth all alienacions / that it may nat be aliened nether by the lawe of the realme
man shuld holde satisfi competently to the churche / to the whiche they be bounde to gyue it of right / no expences by the gyuinge of the sayd tythes deducte or withholden / but onely for the payment of tythes of craftes of byenge sellinge / vy reason of the sayde constitucions prouincials somtyme sutes be taken in the spirituall court for personall tythes / therof many men do meruayle / bycause the deduccions many tymes must be referred to the conscience of the parties And they meruayl also why a law shuld be made in this realme for paīge of personall tythes more than there is in other contreys And here I wolde moue the ferther in one thyng cōcernyng suche personall tythes to knowe thy mynde therin / that is / if a man gyue to another an horse / he selleth that horse for a certayne summe / shall he paye any tythe of that summe ¶ Doctoure what thīkest thou therin ¶ Student I thīke that he shall pay no tythe / for there as I take it the profite cometh nat to hī by his owne industri but by the gyfte of an other / as I take it personall tythes be nat payd for euery profite or aduauntage that cometh newly to a man except it come by his own industri or labour so it dothe nat here And also if he shulde paye tythe of that he solde the horse for he shuld pay tithe for the very hole value of the thinge And as I take it the personall tythes for byenge sellinge shall neuer be payde for the value of the thynge / but for the clere geynes of the thynge / and therfore I take the cases before rehersed where a man selleth his lande or pulleth downe a house and selleth the stuffe / that he shulde there paye no tythe / that it is there to be vnderstande that he hath the lande or howse by gyfte or by discent / for if a man bye lande / or bye the tymber stuffe of a howse and sell it for agayn I suppose that he shulde paye a personall tythe for that gayne / and this case is nat lyke to a fee or annuite graunted for counsayle where the hole fee shal be tythed / for the charges deducte or some certayn some for it by agrement / for there the hole fee cometh for his counsayle whiche is by his owne industrie But in the other case it is nat so / and the same reason as for the person all tythe might be made of trees whan they descende or be gyuen to any man and he selleth them to a nother that he shall paye no personall tythe ¶ Doctoure Me thynketh that if the horse amende in his kepynge than he sell the horse / that than the tythe shal be payd of that that the horse hath encreased in value after the gyft so it may be of trees that he shall pay tythe of that that the trees be amended after the gyft or discent ¶ Student Than the tythe muste be the .x. parte of the encrease the expences deducte / and than of trees the charges muste also be deducte / for it is than a personal tythe / and there is no tree that is so moche worthe as it hath hurte the grounde by the growynge / therfore there can no personal tythe be payd by the owner of the grounde whan he selleth thē though they haue increased in this tyme. Neuertheles I will speke no ferther of that matter at this tyme / but wyll shewe the that if tyme / lede / cole / or trees be solde that a myxte tythe can nat growe therby / for a myxt tythe is properly of calues / lābes / pygges / suche other that come part of the groūd that they be fedde of / part of the kepyng industri ouersight of the owners as it is sayd before / but tynne / lede / cole are parte of the groūde of the freholde / trees growe of thē selfe / be also annexed to the freholde will growe of themselfe / also the mixte tythe muste be payde yerely at certayne tymes appoīted by the law or by custome of the cōtrey / but it may happē that tīne / lede / cole / trees shall nat be felled nor taken in many yeres / so it semeth it can nat be any mixt tythe / these be some of the reasons whiche they that wolde mayntayne that statute prescripcion to be good make to proue theyr intēt as they thynke ¶ Doctour What thynke they if a man sell the loppes of his woode whether any tythe ought there to be payd ¶ Student They thynke all one lawe of the trees of the loppes ¶ Doctour And if he vse to fell the loppes ones in .xii. or .xvi. yere / what holde they thā ¶ Studēt That all his one ¶ Doctoure And what is theyr reason why tythe ought nat to be payde there as well as for woode vnder .xx. yere ¶ Student For they say that the loppes are to be taken of the same condiciō as the trees be what time so euer they be felled / and that no custome will serue in that case agaynst the statute / no more thā it shuld do of great trees ¶ Doctour And what holde they of the barke of the trees ¶ Studēt Therin I haue nat herde theyr opinions / but it semeth to be one law with the loppes ¶ Doctour I perceyue wel by that thou hast sayd before that thy mynde is that if a hole contrey prescribe to be quite of tithes of trees / corne / gres / or of any other tythes that that p̄scripcion is good so that the spirituall ministers haue sufficient beside to liue vpō / dost thou nat mene so ¶ Student yes verely ¶ Doctor. And than I wolde know thy mynde if any mā contrary to that prescripcion were sued in the spirituall court for corne gres or any other rythes whether a prohibicion shulde lye in that case as it dyd after thy mynde before the sayd statute where a man was sued in the spirituall court for tythe wood ¶ Student I thynke nay ¶ Doctoure And why nat there as well as is dyd where a man was sued for the tithe woode ¶ Studēt For as I take it there is great diuersiti bytwene the cases that for this cause / there is a maxime ī the law of Englande that if any sute be taken in the spirituall court wherby any goodes or landes might be recouered / whiche after the groūdes of the lawe of the realme ought nat to be sued there though percase the kynges court shall holde no plee therof that yet a prohibicion shuld lye / after whan it had continued longe that no tythes were payd of wood bycause of the sayd prohibicion that after by processe of time some curates began to aske tithes of wood contrary to the law cōtrary to the sayd prescripcion so that variaūce begā
feoffour was seased iÌ„ that case to his owne vse I shall shewe the afterwarde The seconde case is this A man maketh a feoffement in fee / and it is agreed vpon the feoffement that the feoffe shal pay a yerely reÌ„t to a strauÌ„ger / and if he pay it nat that thaÌ„ the straunger shall entre into the lande In this case I sayd as it appereth in the sayd .xxi. Chapitre / that if the feoffe payed nat the rent that the straunger shuld haue the vse of the lande thoughe he maye nat by the rules of the laÌ„de entre into the laÌ„de / the diuersite bytwene the cases me thynkethe to be this In the fyrste case it apperethe as I haue sayd byfore in the sayde xx Chapitre / that the feoffour myght lawfully reentre by the lawe for nat payment of the rent / and than whaÌ„ he entred accordynge he by that entre auoyded the fyrste lyuery of season / in so moche that after the reentre he was seased of the lande of lyke estate as he was byfore the feoffemente And soo remaynethe noo thynge / whervpon the straunger myght grounde his vse / but onely the bare graunte or entente of the feoffour whaÌ„ he gaue the land to the feoffe vpon condicion that he shulde pay the rente to the straunger / and if nat / that it shulde be lawful to the straunger to entre / for the feoffement is auoyded by the reentre of the feoffour as I haue sayd byfore / and as I sayd in the last Chapitre as I suppose a nude or bare graunte of hym that is seased of lande is nat sufficiente to begynne an vse vpon ¶ Doctour A bare graunte maye chaunge an vse as thou thy selfe agredest in the last Chapitre why thaÌ„ may nat an vse as well begyn vpon a bare graunt ¶ Student Whan an vse is iÌ„ Esse he that hathe the vse may of his mere mocion gyue it awaye if he wyll without recompence as he myght the lande if he had it in possession / but I take it for a grounde that he can nat so begynne an vse without a lyuerey of season or vpon a recompence or bargayne / that there is suche a grouÌ„d in the lawe that it maye nat so begynne it appereth thus / it hath ben alwaye holden for lawe that if a man make a dede of feoffement to a nother and delyuer the dede to hym as his dede / that in that case he to whome the dede is delyuered hath no tytle ne medelynge with the lande afore lyuerey of season be made to hym but only that he may entre and occupie the laÌ„de at the wyll of the feoffour / and there is no boke saythe that the feoffour in that case is seased there of byfore lyuerey to the vse of the feoffe And in lykewyse if a man make a dede of feoffement of two acres of lande that lye in two shyres intendyng to gyue them to the feoffe and maketh lyuerey of season in the one shyre nat in the other / in this case is it comonly holden in bokes that the dede is voyde to that acre where no lyuerey is made excepte it lye within the viewe saue onely that he maye entre occupie at wyl as is aforsayde / and there is no boke that sayth that the feoffe shulde haue the vse of the other acre / for if an vse passed therby than were nat the dede voyde to all intentes / and yet it apperethe by the wordes of the dede that the feoffour gaue the landes to the feoffe / but for lacke of lyuerey of season the gyfte was voyde and some thynketh it is here without lyuerey of seasoÌ„ be made accordynge But in the seconde case of the sayd two cases the feoffe may nat reentre for non payment of the rente / and so the fyrste lyuerey of season continueth and standeth in effecte / and thervpon the fyrste vse maye wel begynne take effecte in the straunger of the lande whaÌ„ the rent is nat payed vnto hym accordynge to the fyrst agrement And so me thynketh that in the fyrst case the vse is determined by cause the lyuerey of season where vpon it coÌ„menced is determined / and that in the seconde case the vse of the lande taketh effecte iÌ„ the straÌ„ger for nat paymeÌ„t of the reÌ„t by the grauÌ„t made at the fyrste lyuerey whiche yet continueth in his effecte / and this my thiÌ„keth is the diuersite bytwene the cases ¶ Doc. yet natwithstandyng the reason that thou haste made me thynketh that if a man seased of landes makethe a gyfte therof by a nude promyse without any lyuerey of season or recompeÌ„ce to hym made and grauÌ„t that he shal be seased to his vse that thoughe that ê“myse be voyde in the lawe that yet neuertheles it muste holde and stande good in conscience and by the lawe of reason / for one rule of the lawe of reason is / that we may do nothynge against the trouthe / and syth the trouthe is that the owner of the grounde hathe graunted that he shall be seased to the vse of the other that grauÌ„t muste nedes stande in effecte or els there is no trouth in the grauntour ¶ Student It is nat agaynste the trouthe of the grauÌ„tour in this case thoughe by that graunte he be nat seased to the vse of the other / but it proueth that he hathe grauÌ„ted / that the lawe wyll nat waraunt hym to graunte / wherfore his graunte is voyde But if the grauntour had gone ferther and sayd that he wolde also suffre the other to take the ê“fites of the landes without let or other interupcion / or that he wolde make hiÌ„ estate in the lande whan he shulde be requyred / than I thynke in those cases he were bouÌ„den in conscience by that rule of the lawe of reason that thou hast remembred to perfourme them / if he intended to be bounden by his ê“myse / for elles he shulde go agaiÌ„st his owne trouthe and agaynste his owne ê“myse But yet it shal make no vse in that case / nor he to whome the promyse is made shall haue no accion in the lawe vppon that promyse althoughe it be nat perfourmed / for it is called in the lawe a nude or a naked promyse And thus me thynkethe that in the fyrste case of the said two cases the graunte is nowe auoyded in the lawe by the reentre of the feoffoure / feoffour / and that the feoffour is nat bounden by his graunte neyther in lawe nor coÌ„science but that iÌ„ the secoÌ„d case he is bouÌ„d / so that the vse passethe froÌ„ hym as I haue sayd byfore ¶ Doctoure I holde me content with thy conceite for this tyme / but I pray the shewe me somwhat more at large what is taken for a nude coÌ„tracte or a naked promyse in the lawes of EnglaÌ„de / and where an accion maye lye there vpon and where nat ¶ Student I wyll with good wyll say as me thynketh