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A79829 The discoverer. VVherein is set forth (to undeceive the nation) the reall plots and stratagems of Lievt. Col. John Lilburn, Mr. William Walwyn, Mr. Thomas Prince, Mr. Richard Overton, and that partie. And their severall seditious wayes and wiles a long time practised by them to accomplish and effect the same. Namely, under the pretence and colour of libertie, and to take off the burdens and grievances of the people, a most dangerous and destructive designe is carried on to deprive the nation of their religion, rights, liberties, proprieties, lawes, government, &c. and to bring a totall and universall ruine upon the land. And so much is here clearely proved. The first part. / Composed and digested by some private persons, well-wishers to the just and honourable proceedings of the Parliament and Councell of state. Published by authoritie.; Discoverer. Part 1. Canne, John, d. 1667? 1649 (1649) Wing C438; Thomason E558_2; ESTC R205840 54,681 62

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improbable and impossible the thing is so it may make disturbance and raise up the spirits of the people against their Rulers But enough of this we will leave them to the censure of that n Calum ●●tores f●at●●m d t●a●lo●ts Infam●s c●nse●t●r Caus 6. Qu. 1. C. Infames Law who being calumniators and detractors set Burne Markes on their forehead for infamous people 2. They doe object against the Councell of State because they are o England n●w Cha●●e pag. 7. p●ssessed with power to order and dispose all the Forces appertaining to England by Sea or Land to dispose of the publick treasure to command any person whatsoever before them to give oath for the discovering of truth to imprison any that shall disobey their commands and such as they shall judge contumatious There is nothing in this which requires an answer p Would it be a good argument to prove Mr. Lilburn a Coward or tray●or to the Army because he was chosen Lievt Col. or rather because he was chosen to such a place it argues he was thought then valiant faithfull c. for the greater the matters are which are referred to the Councell it argues the abilitie and faithfulnesse of the men to be the more and the Parliament knowing so much hath committed such great things to their trust But 1. Were not these men ignorant of Maximes in Law and Reason they would observe that * Cui Jurisdictio data est ci quoque concessa esse videntur sine quibus Jurisdictio expl●cari non potuit Digest Jurisdict Tit. 1. to whom a Jurisdiction is given unto it such things are necessarily granted without which nothing can be don When a man is Constituted a Judge Justice of Peace or Mayor it must be presupposed that he hath power given him to officiate and act such things as appertaine to that function or calling But observe the absurditie and stupiditie of these men they doe not deny q That which is don by the Parliament is called first stable and sanctum and is taken for Law Sm●th Common-wealth of E●gland l. 2. Ch 2. neither indeed can they but the Parliament l●wfully may erect such a Councell onely they finde fault because they have power to act the things which properly belong to such a State 2. It seemes there is no way to escape the scourge of these mens tongues Because the manifold pressures and sorrowe● of the people are not removed peace libertie freedome established the Parliament for this is every where reproached by them Againe Whereas the Parliament endeavoureth and for that end is this Councell of State erected to take away the burdens oppressions and miseries of this Nation and to settle the Common-wealth of England upon Principles of Righteousnesse freedome and safetie according to their severall Expresses and Declarations for this also doth the same partie speake evill of them This shewes they are men of some par●s that they can as handsomely put a reproach and scandall upon the Magistrates for doing well as for doing nothing But in the meane time their hypocrisie and basenesse is the more obvious and manifest to all unbiassed and impartiall people for who unlesse men most impudent would pretend a desire to have burdens removed Ireland relieved our Forces by Land and Sea well looke unto and provided for the publick treasure carefully disposed of and when they see all this is don to speake evill of the State and for no other reason but because the same is don as they desired or at least pretended so And to the end their malice and mischiefe to the Land may the more appeare in reproaching the Parliament for erecting this Councell of State Let it be considered 1. What r 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Zenop 8. Poed necessitie as ●ur present condition is there was of such a Councell 2. ſ Brach●● Da lassae potius pendend● n●tan● Nec p●geat m●●to supposu sse manum Ovid. l. 2 de Pont. The many great and weighty affaires which cannot possibly be well effected and don but in such a way 3. How consonant and agreeable this thing is to the constant practice of all well governed Republicks past and present And 4. no other but what is agreeable to t Magn● negoti● magnis ad tutoribus egere Vell●ius l. 11. Hominum natura ipsa aequitas leges reipub formam excudit invenit Plat. l. 3. de Leg. Reason and u Publicam utilitatem privato●um commod● praeferendam Authent res quae C. Com de Legat. Law yea altogether bottomed upon such Grounds And lastly according to the Principles and Maximes set down by all judicious and learned Politicians in the world These particulars we could enlarge but it needs not for envie it selfe can finde nothing here whereby to oppose or to raise any contradiction or objection against these Assertions But 3. Their objection seemes to lie chiefly against the persons that is some particular Members of the Councell of State and this is more then likely even certaine and gives us an occasion to remember a pretty fable of Demosthenes how the Wolves made a league of peace with the Sheep so that the dogs might be removed but when the dogs were put away the sheep were worried There are in the Parliament Councell of State and Armie some men whom they perceive are speciall barres and lets to their pernicious designes these they would willingly have removed to the end they might easily devour the poor sheep of this Nation their safety freedome lawes and so their Estates become a prey to them But let us see who they are that the Wolves would have removed 1. * Englands n●w Ch●●ne p●g 8. The chiefe of the Armie And this we verily beleeve for as none have had more experience of their conspiracies and sed●tions from time to time then these so hath the Lord alwayes made them chiefe Instruments to preserve this Land from their horrid inhumane and bloudy wiles and workings against it John of Leiden ●nd the x Senatores plerique urbe excedunt x authoritate rel●qui urbis f●cies innovatur C●nsu●● novi Creantur a prophetis inter ●●as Be●nhardus C●●pperdell ng Homo novandi v●us ma●u promptus ad turbas factus Spa●hem disput Antianabap Prim. Gen Thes 18. Munster Levellers with him did the same thing which they here desire and no doubt would doe had they power displaced all such Officers as stood in their way and set others in their room whom they thought would help forward their designe to ruine and destroy the Common-wealth 2. The Judges of the Law Here likewise we know their meaning Its confusion they would have this Land y Job 10.22 a land of darknesse as darknesse it selfe and as the shadow of death without any order and where the light is as darknesse neither are they ignorant of the ready way and means how to bring it in and make it so take the