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A56065 The propositions of the Roman Catholicks of Ireland as also the answer of the agents for the Protestants of Ireland made to the said propositions, and their petitions and propositions to His Majesty, and His Majesties answer to the propositions of the said Roman Catholicks, and the answer of James, Marquesse of Ormond, His Majesties Commissioner for the treatie and concluding of a peace in the kingdome of Ireland, to the said propositions. Confederate Catholics.; Ormonde, James Butler, Duke of, 1610-1688. 1644 (1644) Wing P3800; ESTC R36692 41,588 78

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that_o nothing_o be_v to_o pass_v as_o a_o act_n before_o transmission_n other_o than_o what_o shall_v be_v agree_v upon_o and_o express_o mention_v in_o the_o article_n of_o peace_n 3._o it_o be_v conceive_v this_o pretend_a parliament_n be_v determine_v by_o the_o death_n of_o the_o lord_n deputy_n wandesford_n most_o of_o the_o estate_a and_o right_a member_n thereof_o do_v not_o appear_v in_o it_o since_o the_o 7._o of_o august_n 1641._o those_o who_o now_o appear_v as_o member_n thereof_o viz._n of_o the_o commons-house_n be_v for_o a_o great_a part_n not_o much_o interest_v and_o other_o whole_o uninteress_v therein_o and_o one_o order_n therein_o make_v to_o exclude_v the_o say_a catholic_n from_o the_o house_n other_o order_n to_o their_o disadvantage_n be_v and_o or_o may_v have_v be_v make_v in_o the_o say_a commons-house_n therefore_o it_o be_v desire_v that_o all_o the_o proceed_n of_o the_o say_v pretend_a parliament_n may_v be_v declare_v void_a and_o take_v of_o the_o file_n 4._o when_o those_o indictment_n be_v find_v &_o outlawry_n promulge_v the_o say_a catholic_n be_v inform_v and_o hope_v to_o justify_v that_o those_o who_o govern_v in_o this_o kingdom_n or_o some_o of_o they_o do_v plot_n and_o practice_v the_o total_a extirpation_n of_o the_o say_v catholic_n &_o asmuch_o as_n in_o they_o lie_v do_v increase_v the_o trouble_n to_o that_o end_n and_z shute_z up_o the_o gate_n of_o his_o majesty_n mercy_n against_o the_o say_a catholic_n even_o against_o those_o who_o be_v undeniable_o innocent_a as_o may_v appear_v by_o many_o instance_n the_o manner_n of_o appoint_v of_o sheriff_n who_o return_v the_o juror_n &_o the_o person_n appoint_v the_o juror_n condition_n &_o affection_n the_o infinite_a number_n of_o the_o person_n indict_v &_o outlaw_v be_v never_o call_v to_o answer_v &_o other_o circumstance_n touch_v or_o depend_v of_o the_o say_a record_n be_v so_o general_o destructive_a to_o the_o say_a catholic_n they_o can_v otherwise_o 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