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A34093 A retrospect into the Kings certain revenue annexed to the crown under the survey of His Majesties court exchequer : with the proceedings upon two sevral petitions presented to His Majesty, concerning the chauntry rents, &c. and the first fruits, and tenths of the clergy ... / by George Carew. Carew, George, Esq. 1661 (1661) Wing C550; ESTC R24253 43,859 25

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since in England to this very day and that those payments or Tributes Beda calls Vectigal which signifies a Badg of Subordination of the Clergy to the Supreame Civill Magistrate and where they have cast off this Tribute the Civill Magistrate hath been subordinate to the Authority of the Church it was paid by the Priests in the time of the Old Law to the Sovereign Power 2. THAT the First-Fruits and Tenths are of a Popish Institution ANSWER It may be satisfactory enough That this Tribute of First-Fruits and Tenths hath been paid to all Kings and Queens of England since the Reformation in Henry the 8 ths time without any repeal of any of the said Statutes but in the time of Popery viz. in the second and third year of Philip and Mary the Act for paying of First-Fruits and Tenths was Repealed but confirmed again in the very first year of Queen Elizabeths Reformation of Religion from Popery by the Statute of 1. Eliz. chap. 4. with a Recital and Ratification of all former Statutes that confirmed the same to the Crown and have continued in force ever since so that if the Tythes vs Jure Divino payable to the Clerg● for their Administration of the Word and Sacraments to the People The First-Fruits and Tenths Jure Politico are payable to the King their Sovereign Lord for his Administration of Justice and maintaining the Rights Priviledges and Liberties both of Church and State 3. THAT the Clergy of all Orders and Degrees have lately suffered and therefore ought not to be raised in their First-Fruits and Tenths ANSWER That the King hath suffered more and his Revenue much diminished by the late War which hath been fomented and encouraged by many thousands of the Clergy now confirmed in their Livings and the Commons of England would more willingly pay their Tythes if they were sensible the First-Fruits and full Tenths were to be paid to the King as they lately expressed in their desires upon the like occasion of improving that part of the Kings Revenue THE Incumbents have and do dayly take advantages for their Tythes of new Tillage and other ●mprovements of Land which ought to be proportionably answered to the King the Bishops and 〈◊〉 other persons in Spiritual Dignities and Promotions do raise their Tenants and let the states to the improved values Three Proposals to the King 1. THAT the said Petitioners will discharge 50000. pounds part of the debt due from the Crown mentioned in their Petition and give good security for the payment of sixty thousand pounds yearly Rent unto his Majesty his Heirs or Successors Kings of England during the said Term or one and thirty years without any defalcation or other charges or reprisal whatsoever 2. THAT the Petitioners will not take any First-Fruits of such Benefice or Living which is Appropriated to the Cure of Souls that upon the Examination and enquiry shall not be indifferently found and returned at the full yearly value of fifty pounds upon the Survey 3. THAT the Bishop shall not be troubled with the charge or care of Collection of the First-Fruits or Tenths within his Diocess But be wholly busied in the other Spiritual affairs of the Church and cure of souls Three Proposals offered to the Clergy 1. THAT upon the Nomination Appointment Election or Presentation of any Spiritual person into the said Dignities Benefices or Promotions and before they enter into the actual possession thereof they shall be bound in a Recognizance in the nature of a Statute Staple with two sufficient Sureties to pay the First-Fruits according to the full value as shall be returned upon a survey payable within four years after such Nomination Election Presentation or Entrance at eight severall payments by equal portions every six moneths and that one years Tenths of every such Dignity Benefice or Promotion shall be deducted out of the said First-Fruits In case the Incumbent by before all payments the Security to be discharged according to the time 2. THAT whereas by the Liberty and Disorder of the late depraved times the Clergy were not held in such Reverence and esteem by the Common people as the Dignity of their Calling requires And they have been forced to commence severall Actions for their Tythes and by reason of confe●●tious and distempered spirits the Preaching of the Word of God hath been unprofitable to the people that have taken a prejudice against the Ministery Therefore a short Bill shall be prepared by Councell and offered to the Parliament That an Act may be passed for the speedy recovering of Tythes which have been paid formerly and the Title not in question And that the two next Justices of the Peace adjacent to the place may have power upon Complaint of any Minister or other person to whom the Tythes do or shall belong to issue forth their Warrants to distrain goods and chattells of any person or persons refusing to pay their Tythes to whom they shall become due and payable as aforesaid That Love and Unity may be preserved between the Ministers and their Congregations 3. THAT forthwith Commissions shall be issued out in his Majesties name throughout England and Wales to examine and finde out the true values of all Dignities Benefices Parsonages and other Spirituall promotions aforesaid and to return the Surveys thereof with the names of the Patrons and present incumbents and in the mean time to suspend all proceedings in the First-Fruits Office And that his Majesty would be pleased to appoint a Secretary for Presentations of all such Livings as shall be in his Majesties dispose wholly to attend his Majesties service therein to the end that his Majesty may be fully informed of the true value of those Livings And whereas for the ease of his Majesty Severall Livings and promotions were heretofore in the Lord Chancellour or Lord Keepers dispose to be so continued notwithstanding any new Return of a greater value Further Arguments and Considerations will be offered in convenient time conducing much to the advantage of the King the Benefit of the Clergy and the General good of the whole Nation as occasion requires All which they humbly submit George Carew Thomas Gould John Culpeper Octob. 22. 1660. An Order upon the hearing of the Petition referred to the Barons of the Exchequer Veneris vii die Decembris 1660. Anglia Wallia UPon Reading the Petition of Walter Deverenx and George Carew Esquires presented to the Kings Majesty for a Grant to be made to them for their Lives upon the reasons in the said Petition mentioned of the sole Collection of that part of his Majesties Revenue consisting in Chantry Rents Pensions Portions and other small rents issuing out of his Majesties Mannours and Bayliwicks in England and Wales and of a Reference thereupon made unto us from the Right Honourable Thomas Earl of Southhampton Lord High Treasurer of England Dated the seventeenth day of September 1660. Whereby we are desired by his Lordship to examine
pondere numero Allowing 6 d. in the pound for wearing of the money by often telling The uprightness of that Age was such that they accounted the Kings Rents sacred and individual considering that the Kings care and charge preserved all men in peace and plenty And the Sheriffs then minding the Common-weal and good of their Countrey answered the Kings Rents by Proxies at London who kept correspondence with Factors Clothiers Gra●●ers and others trading from all parts of England to the City and levied the Rents at his leasure By which means he promoted Trade kept the money still in the Countrey That imployed Spinners Weavers and Husbandmen which otherwise their whole Market money had been carried out of the Countrey by Receivers and Collectors That came as strangers amongst them The Pr●mises considered it remains under your Lordships consideration whether it be not fit for a Parliament to consult what is most necessary to be done for the advantage of the King in his Revenue and the Commodity of the People in their payments and to hear what further shall be proposed upon the whole matter for his Majesties Service therein all which is submitted to January the 29th 1660. By Walter Devereux George Carew THE Business tending to the well setling of his Majesties revenue under Consideration of the Lord Treasurer and others The Petitioners not doubting but the referrees had been fully satisfied in the Premises concerning the Collections and what was alledged in the petition left it for the Barons to report And on the 13 th of May 1661. Calling for their report the Barons desired an information of the benefit intended to His Majestie in the said Collection some of them having forgotten the perticulars and also the discoverie of the mis-carriages and inconveniencies which had happened by the default of the Receivers Collectours and other Officers relating to the said accounts Whereupon it was breifly answered by the Petitioners that in their proposals concerning the said Collection left with Mr. Paine they had offered first that they would observe such a methode in every County that the rents should be duly answered without the charge of Poundage which the receivers had besides the Collectours fees Secondly without the charge of 2s upon every account which the Auditours Clerks were allowed for ingrossing the accounts Thirdly that they would give good Security to render a perfect Account yearly upon Oath and return the supers and upon whom depending that process may Issue duly out to avoid the charge of Messengers Fourthly they would discharge the King of 1500 ●b being part of a Debt due by Letters-Patent charged upon the revenue And lastly that they would Pay the said ●ents on the first day of May every Year during the said term desired by their Petition into His Majesties receipt of Exchequer And as for the arrears and supers depending upon the former tenants and Collectours in the Ministers accounts and receivers accounts relating to the same which were occasioned through the default of the Auditors and other Officers aforesaid The Petitioners then informing the Barons that they could not so clearly make them appear without an express order to some of the Clerks of the Court to peruse their last declared accounts and certifie the same Several Clerks being then present informed the Court that it was a work of time but for their satisfaction and upon the earnest desire of Mr. Walter Devereux one of the Petitioners being a Member of Parliame●t the Barons made this following Order Die Martis xiiii May 1661. ORDERED that the last declared accounts of the Ministers and receivers in the Counties of Wilts York-Shire and Lyncoln-Shire be brought into the Exchequer Chamber upon wednesday 15. of May by eight of the Clock in the morning to be perused in the presence of one of the Auditors Clerks by Mr. Hudson Mr. Wilkinson Mr. Carill and Mr. Burnet Matthew Hale Edw. Atkins Chr. Turnor Notwithstanding Sir Edward Sawyer was unconcerned in the said order for those Counties yet he appeared the next morning before the Barons and told them that it was not convenient for the Auditors to bring their accounts out of their Office or that they should be perused without the Lord Treasurer were first acquainted with the business pro consequentia and for that the Barons O●der was not Obeyed the Petitioners desired a further Order which was graunted as foll●weth viz. Die Mercurii xv May 1661. ORDERED That Mr. Harpham one of the Attornies in the Kings Remembrancers Office Mr. Wilkinson another Attorny in the Treasurers Remembrancers Office and Mr. Burnet one of the sworn Clerks of the Pipe-Office do forthwith peruse the last declared Receivers Accounts with the Ministers accounts relating to the same for the Counties of Wilts York-Shire and Lincoln or any other Counties and certifie unto us the Arrears and supers in the said accounts and for how long time they have been depending their Matthew Hale Edw. Atkyns Chr. Turnor Mr. Kinsman Auditor for Wilts had no declared accounts in his Office since the 7 th Year of King Charles the First And Mr. Chislett Deputy Auditor to Mr. Gwin for Lincoln shire told the Petition●rs they had given the Barons sufficient satisfaction by Certificate under their 〈◊〉 concerning the Supers and Arrears in their accounts in December last And the D●puty-Auditor for York-Shire had no declared account in his Office since the 14 th of the late King Charls But the 〈◊〉 in persuance of the last Order caused the last declared accompts to be perused with much opposition Sir Edward Sawyer telling the Auditors they deserved to lose their offices for suffering those persons to ●ook into their Accounts by the Attornies aforesaid who certified the Barons the 〈…〉 under their hands as appears before the Barons Report in the 19. page To the Right Reverend Father in God WILLIAM By Divine Providence LORD ARCH-BISHOP OF CANTERBURY HIS GRACE Primate of England and Metropolitane Right Reverend Father in God I HAVE observed in reading the Acts of Councils and Parliaments held by the KINGS of England That they have Supported themselves repaired their Estates and payd their Debts by improving the Revenue of the Crown and lessening the charge of supernumerary Officers belonging to the Exchequer And although the King hath an absolute Sovereign power in himself to do it without Parliaments yet he hath usually condescended in such cases to advise with the Lords Spiritual and Temporal and Commons assembled in Parliament The State held it most just in the seventh year of King Henry the fourth to help the King out of his own rather then burthen the People and improved his Lands although in Lease And also in Henry the sixths time the King was induced by his Council to Convey to the Arch-Bishop of Canterbury and others all Profits of Wards Escheats and Forfeitures c. towards the defraying the charge of his House to prevent the immoderate Requests of importunate Suiters May it please your Grace The