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A36230 Honors pedigree, or, The [se]veral fountaines of gentry [be]ing a treatise of the distinct degrees of the nobilitie of this kingdome, with their rights and priviledges, according to the lawes and customes of England / [by] that juditious lawyer, Sir John Dodoredge ... Doddridge, John, Sir, 1555-1628. 1652 (1652) Wing D1793; ESTC R37279 103,037 198

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Kt Iohn de Vere Iohn de vere Earle of Oxford by vertue of the entaile Iohn de Vere William Lord Pag●t of Bewdesert was seised in his demesn as of fee of the Baronies of Langden and Hawood and of and in the Mannours of Bewdesert Landen c. And being so seised by fine quinto Mariae entailed the Baronies and Mannours aforesaid to him and his heires males of his body issuing And afterward Anno 5. Eliz. died leaving Henry his sonne next heire male Which Henry entred into the Baronies and land aforesaid by vertue of the foresaid fine and died thereof seised 11. Eliz. leaving Elizabeth his onely daughter and heire After whose death Thomas Paget brother and heire male of the said Henry entred into the Baronies and Mannours aforesaid and was summoned to the Parliament by virtue of the aforesaid fine William Lord Paget of Bewdesert died anno 5. Eliz. Henry Lord Paget dies An. 11. Eliz. Elizabeth his daughter and heire Thomas Lord Paget by force of the entaile after the death of his brother Robert Lord Ogle entred into the Barony of Bothal and Ogle with divers other Mannors and Lands in the County of Northumberland by conveiance which was to himselfe for terme of his life the remainder to the heires males of his body begotten and he took to his wife Dorothy Witherington by whom he had issue Robert Ogle his eldest sonne and Margery his daughter married Gregory Ogle of Chippington And the said Robert the father after the death of the said Dorothy his wife took to his second wife Ioane Ratcliffe by whom he had issue Cutbert his second sonne and after died After whose death Robert the sonne was Lord Ogle from whom the same descended to Cutbert being brother of the halfe blood by vertue of the said entaile and not to the said Margery nor unto her heires being of the whole blood unto the said Robert the sonne Robert Ogle Lord Ogle Dorothy daughter of Henry Withrington first wife Robert Ogle L. Ogle died without issue Margery maried to Ogle of Chippington Cuthbert Ogle of Chippington Joan the daughter of Cuthbert Ratcliff Kni. the second wife Cuthbert Ogle L. Ogle died Margery Ogle married Robert Witherington Thomas Ogle Moreover concerning the second objection it is very ●rue that many ancient Mannours which were anciently holden by Barony as the head or parcell of a Barony are now in the hands of Gentlemen meane and un-noble by blood who neither doe nor may claime any Nobility or honour thereby But the reason that some former gifts made by the Kings Majesties progenitou●s the supreme Soveraignes of this Realme to such as they honoured in augmentation and support of their honour and by honourable services should thus come to the hands of mean personages are twofold First for that such Mannours have been alieued by licence unto such persons before spoken whom such possessions alone cannot make noble Secondly and that was usually such Mannours as were holden by Barony have upon divers e●cheasons and occasions come to the Crowne by way of revertor or eschete or forfeit by meanes whereof the ancient tenures derived from the Crowne by reason of those lands so comming again to the Crown were extinct and after the said lands were given or conveyed to others reserving other services than those which at the first were due for the same so that it was no marvaile to see that some Mannours anciently holden by Barony or other honourable service should now bee holden in soccage or by other triviall or meane tenure As to that which was thirdly objected that some ancient Barons there are which have aliened and sold away those Castles and Mannours of the which they have and doe beare the name and dignity and yet neverthelesse themselves doe still retaine and keep lawfully their estate dignity and degree of a Bar●● and have been and are called to the Parliament such alienation notwithstanding To this I answer That it is true but it proveth nothing against the former resolution And therefore for better satisfaction of this observation it is to be considered that such Barons either be originally Barons by writ or Barons by tenure Barons by writ in this respect now in hand are of two kindes For either in such writ whereby they or their Ancestors were at first summoned they were named onely by their owne names or else there was addition given them of the principall place of their aboad which was done either for distinction sake to sever them from some honourable person of the same surname or else to give them such honourable title by addition of the place which place notwithstanding was not holden by Barony And therefore if such a Baron doe alien away that place which anciently was his seat he may neverthelesse retain his honourable title in respect had of such a place But if a Baron by tenure doe alien away the honourarable Castle or Mannour holden by Barony unto a mean person not capable of honour and that by sufficient licence so to doe and after the alienour which made such alienation be called by writ to the Parliament under the title or as Baron of such Honour Castle or Mannour so aliened he is not any more a Baron by tenure in respect of that place for that he hath aliened that away which he held by Barony but thenceforth after such writ of summons he is become a Baron by writ and may retaine the name of Baron by title of the place as Baron by writ such alienation notwithstanding forasmuch as the writ directed at the pleasure of the Prince doth give unto him that addition of name and dignity And thus much touching the resolution of the said question and satisfaction of the said objections and of Barons by tenure BARONS by writ which is the second kind of Barons mentioned in the former Divisions of BARONS A Baron by writ is he unto whom a writ of summons in the name of the King is directed to come to the Parliament appoin●ed at a certaine time and place to be holden and there with his Highnesse the Prelates Nobility and Peeres to treat and advise touching the waighty affairs of the Realme T●e forme of which writ is much to the effect of the writ before mentioned in the title of Earle which kind of writ is as well directed to the Barons by tenure as Ba●●●● by creation Patent or otherwise But those which 〈◊〉 Barons by tenure nor by Patent and have onely 〈◊〉 writs are therefore called Barons by writ and up●● 〈◊〉 of such writ and place taken accordingly in 〈◊〉 ought to enjoy the name dignity and ho●● of a Baron 〈◊〉 ●ouching the antiquity of Barons by writ onely and ●●eir first institution I finde little or no mention before ●he time of H. 3. And therefore I conceive that either the first of all or at least that the first frequent use of such Barons was had and devised 49. H. 3. in case of necessity and upon a lamentable
of us is deemed the same person with us Wherefore by the Councell and consent of the Prelats Dukes Earls Viscounts and Barons of our Kingdom being in our present Parliament we have made and created and by these presents make and create him the said Edward Prince of Wales and Earl of Chester and to the same Edward we give and grant and by this Charter have confirmed the Name Stile Title State Dignity and the honour of the said Principality that he may therein in governing rule and in ruling direct and defend We by a Garland upon his head by a Ring of Gold upon his Finger and a Virge of Gold have according to the manner invested him to have and to hold to him and to his Heirs the Kings of England for ever Wherefore we will and straightly command for us and our Heirs that Edward our Sonne aforesaid shall have the Name Stile Title State Dignity and honour of the Principality of Wales and of the County of Chester aforesaid unto him and his Heirs the Kings of England aforesaid for ever These being witnesses the Reverend Father John Cardinall and Archbishop of Canterbury Primate of all England our Chancellor and William Archbishop of York Primate of England Thomas Bishop of London John Bishop of Lincolne and William Bishop of Norwich our most welbeloved Cousins Richard Duke of York Humpbry Duke of Buckingham our welbeloved Cousin Richard Earl of Warwick Richard Earl of Salisbury John Earl of Wiltshire and our welbeloved and faithfull Cousins Ralph Cromwell Chamberlain of our House William Falconbridge and John Sturton Knights Dated at Our Palace at Westminster ●he fifteenth day of March and in the yeer of Our Raign ●hirty two And here by the way may be observed that in ancient time and in the time of the English Saxon Kings the use was as well in penning the Acts of Parliament as of the Kings Letters Patents when any lands franchises or hereditaments did passe from the King of any estate of inheritance as also in their creations of any Man unto honour and dignity the conclusion was with the signe of the Crosse in forme aforesaid that is his Testibus c. But long time that forme hath been discontinued so that at this day and for many yeares past all the Kings Patents for lands franchizes and h●reditaments doe conclude with teste me ipso neverthelesse in all creations of honour and dignity by Letters Patents the ancient forme of concluding with his testihus is used at this day Cookes 8. part 19. And it hath been resolved by the Judges that all Acts of Parliament and Statutes which doe concerne the Prince who is the first begotten son of the King and heire apparant to the Crowne for the time being Perpetuis futuris temporibus in all succession of ages and times be such Acts whereof the Judges and all the Realme must take conusance as of generall Statutes for every subject hath interest in the King and none of his subjects who is within his Lawes be divided from him being his head and Soveraign so that the businesse and things of the King doth touch all the Realme and namely when it doth concerne the Prince the first begotten sonne of the King and Heire apparant to the Crowne Corruscat enim Princeps radlis Reg●s Patr● sii censetnr und persona cum ipso For the Prince shineth with the beames of the King his Father and is holden to be one person with him Cookes 8. part 28. Although the Prince by expresse words hath no priviledge by the great Charter of the Forrest 9 H. 3. cap. 11. for hunting in the Kings Forrests or Parks passing by them and sent for by the Kings commandment yet by construction the Prince is to take benefit and advantage thereby as well as Bishops Earls or Barons who are expressed Crompt Courts des Justices de Forrests 167. In the Parliament 31. H. 8. c. 10. an Act concerning the placing of the Kings children and Lords in the Parliament and other assemblies were amongst other things made as followeth First it is enacted by the authority aforesaid that no person or persons of what degree estate or condition whatsoever he or they be except only the Kings children shall at any time hereafter attempt or presume to sit or have place at any side of the cloth of state in the Parliament chamber neither of the one hand of the Kings Highnesse or of the other whether the Kings Majesty be there personally present or not The Prince shall not find pledges for the prosecution of any Action and therefore shall be amerced more then the King should be or the Queen his wife Vide Cooks 8. part 61. b. Of the most noble and excellent Prince that now is it is truly said that he is omni nomine numine magnus by destiny name providence of God the greatest before Cook to the Reader before his 8. Book the last leaf Neverthelesse as he is a distinct person by nature from the King so is he distinct by the Law viz. a Subject and holdeth his principalities and seigniories of the King neither shall he have all those Prerogatives which the King shal have for example when the King seizeth his Subjects lands or taketh away his goods from him having no title by order of the Law so to do In this case the Subject is to sue to his Soveraign Lord by way of Petition onely for other remedy hath he not but suit by Petition can be to none other then to the King for no such suit shall be made to the Prince but Actions as the case requireth as against a Subject Stamf. praerog ca. 22. And in token of subjection the Prince doth not upon his Posie of his Arms disdain the old Saxon word Ichdien I serve as Lambert doth mention in his Book of Perambulation of Rent 364. And there is a case that Gascoin chief Justice of Engl in the time of H. 4. did commit the Prince who would have taken a prisoner from the Bar in the Kings Bench and the Prince did humbly obey and did go at his command in which the King did greatly rejoyce that hee had such a Judge who durst minister justice upon his son and also that hee had a son so gracious as to obey Court de Banco Regis 79. Crompton A question was moved to the Justices in the first yeer of H. 7. what order should be in that present parliament for the anulling and making void certain attainders for so much as divers who were returned of that Parliamet did stand attainted of treason and all the Justices resolved That so many of the Knights of the shires or Citizens or Burgesses as stood then attainted of treason should depart out of the Parliament house at the reversall of the Act of Parliament for their attainders But ●s soon as the Act of Parliament was reversed and annuld that they and every of them that is to say Lords and Commons should come into