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A88838 An untaught teacher witnessed against. Or, The old bottles mouth opened, it's wine poured forth, drunk of drunkards, denyed of them who have tasted of the new. That is to say, the unsound, unseasoned, unsavory doctrines, and opinions of Matthew Caffyn, Baptist-teacher laid open, who in the county of Sussex, is cryed up to be as their battle axe, and weapon of warre, who as Jannes and Jambres rides aloft, and bestirs himself with the magick rod of his lies, slanders, aspersions, and unsound doctrines, labours to strengthen the hands of carnal professors, and to keep the beloved of God in bondage: ... Which doctrines, and unsavory speeches were received from his own mouth, part of them at a meeting of the people called Quakers, at Crowley in Sussex, others thereof at his own house neere South-water, before me and John Slee, upon the fifth day of the seventh moneth, 1655 ... / Tho: Lawson. John Slee. Lawson, Thomas, 1630-1691.; Slee, John. 1655 (1655) Wing L729; Thomason E854_12; ESTC R202688 20,795 30

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Jam 3.27 1 Cor. 1.30 who is of God Christ is their wisdom and he is perfect in the least measure so here thou hast uttered blasphemy if thou knew it the Beast that opens his mouth in blasphemy against God his Tabernacle and them that dwell in Heaven into the lake must go Rev. 13.6 19. Matthew Caffyn said the Scripture was the Touchstone to try spirits withall I answer That is another lie the Scripture is not the tryer of spirits to try the living by the dead that I deny the Saints have salt in themselves to savour withall and their own every vvhere they relish and know but the contrary they deny the spirits of the Prophets are subject to the Prophets 1 Cor. 4.32 and this spirit owns it self over all this discerned and knew them vvho used their tongue saying the Lord saith vvhen as they had nothing but the letter Jer. 23. discerning of spirits vvas and is a gift of the spirit 1 Cor. 12.10 Novv thou sayes the Scripture must try spirits 1 Cor. 2.10 The spirit searches all things 1 John 2.20 ye have an unction from the holy one and knovve all things and by this unction they discerned Antichrists Deceivers false Prophets Hereticks and deluders and not by the letter vvithout and by this spirit did Paul discern such as had the form but not the povver 2 Tim. 3.5 and I vvill come shortly saith Paul and vvill knovv not the speech of them that are puffed up but the povver 1 Cor. 4.19 The day declares every mans vvork 1 Cor. 3.11.12 13. Mal. 3.16 17 18. In the day vvhen the Jevvels are making up and in the day is the discerning betvveen the vvicked and the righteous him that serves God and him that serves him not but this is by vertue of the day and not by the letter vvithout The sheep knovv the voice of Christ but deny to follovv a stranger John 10.4 5 and this the sheep do through the vertue of salt in them and not the letter vvithout them for a stranger may have the form and all the Scripture and there vvith deceive yet the sheep have salt to savour vvithall knovves him that uses his tongue and saith the Lord saith vvhen he hath nothing but the letter Jer. 23. and whereas John said Try the spirits whether they be of God or no. 1 John 4.1 this he spoke to them that had salt in themselves where the tryer was born they were of God and Children and a greater was in them then he that was in the world 1 John 4.4 Thou that sayes the Scripture is the Touchstone to try spirits withall tell me this how may a Minister made by the will of God be known from a Minister made by the will of man seeing a Minister made by the vvill of man may have all the Scripture the form as well as he that is by the vvill of God The Jews had Abrahams words Moses the Prophets words but they knew not Christ could not thereby discern his spirit but said he was a Samaritan and had a Devil John 8 48. and they knew not what spirit the Apostles were of but stoned Paul till they thought he had been dead Acts 14.19 Well may thou stumble at that which tries spirits who confesses thou knowes not what the tongue of the learned is Ephes 5.13 All things that are reproved are made manifest by the light what ever makes manifest is light which makes thee manifest and thy spirit which is to be reproved which light leads to the stone with seven eyes Zac. 3.9 and nothing but this discerns darkness and that which leads into darkness 20. He said the Law without man is that which convinces man of sin I answer that is another lie for Christ is the true light which lighteth every man that comes into the world Iohn 1.9 which sight is in man and he that doth evil hates it yet it reproves him and convinces him of sin and shewes him his deeds are evil who acts evil Iohn 3.19.20 21. this is given to the ends of the earth and leaves them without excuse who have not the Law without in that it shewes them evil and sin which is darkness Isay 49.6 Rom. 2.14.15 16. Ephes 5.13 as many as sin without the Law shall also perish without Law Rom. 2.12 and in Rom. 4.15 he saith where there is no Law there is no transgression and Rom. 3.20 by the Law is the knowledge of sin now read these Scriptures he tells of some that are without the Law and he saith moreover that where there is no Law there is no transgression So by consequence these are no sinners who are without the Law yet he saith As many as sin without the Law So that I say though they have not a Law without yet have they so much within as lets them see evil and secretly moves to turn from evil and this leaves them without excuse Rom. 1.19 And Paul had the Law without and as touching it was blameless and was alive in the flesh and saith he was without the Law so by the outward the letter he did not see him elf but when his eye was opened which had been blinded the spiritual Law then sin appeared and he died Rom. 7.9.14.12 verses and Iohn 16.8 it is the spirit which convinces the world of sin which in measure hath appeared to all men 1 Cor. 12.7 Tit. 2.11 12. and Isay 42.6 He is given a Covenant to Israel but a light to the Gentile 21. He said God and Christ was two I answer that is a lie and thou gainsayes Christ who said I and my Father are one Iohn 10.30 and Iohn 17.11 that they may be one as we are and that they may be one even as we are one Iohn 17.22 This Doctrine thy fore-fathers could not bear even the Jews who had the Letter but stumbled at the stumbling-stone and stoned him Iohn 10.31 and the rage envy and bitterness that lodges in thy heart and the swelling cruel words that from thee have proceeded sufficiently make known where thou art let that in thy own conscience witness thou knowes not him who is one with the Father but sets the Father in one place and the Son in another and changes the glory of the incorruptible God into an Image made like unto corruptible man Rom. 1.23 the Virgins birth thou knowes not which is Emmanuel God with us Mat. 1.23 22. He said he shall see God with his eyes which be carnall often pointing at them with his fingers alledging that of Iob Iob 19.25 26 27. I answ let all who know God in the least measure judge if thou be one of them who art changing the glory of the incorruptible God into an Image made like unto corruptible man who is telling of seeing God who is a spirit and invisible with carnall naturall eyes thou Image-maker what dost thou imagine God to be like who art doting and dreaming of seeing God who is a spirit with thy carnall