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A12284 A censure upon the dialogue of the Anabaptists intituled, A description of what God hath predestinated concerning man ... By Henry Ainsworth. Ainsworth, Henry, 1571-1622? 1623 (1623) STC 226; ESTC S100100 65,025 70

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not onely for their not beleeving in Christ but also for their unmercifulnesse idolatries adulteries and other crimes Math. 25.41.42 Rom. 2.5 9. Secondly the sinne of unbeliefe cleaveth unto all Adams children as other sinnes and shall be imputed as well as the sin of lust or any other iniquitie Thirdly to beleeue is not in the will or power of man but is the gracious gift of God to such as he hath ordained unto life Eph. 2 8 Act 13.48 Againe they alledge that Adam by that transgression deprived himselfe of Gods favour in that estate wherein he was in paradise and notwithstanding the promise of Christ hath by his si● procured this judgment Cursed is the earth for thy sake c Gen. 3. Thus Adam brought hims●lfe and all his posterity the earth and every creature in it to vanitie and bondage of corruption Rom. 8.20 c. And in this estate are all Adams sonnes begotten and borne so that by Adams sin vanitie corruption and death went over all c. So infants haue originall corruption as other creatures haue Yet those that dye and haue corruption by Adams sinne shall not be cast into hell fire Answ. A felon murderer traytor that is apprehended by the magistrate imprisoned kept in fetters and affl●ction his lands and goods confiscate c. pleadeth he ought not to be put to death because he hath suffered for his crimes losse of liberty goods c. But will this plea saue him Even such is the plea of th●se evill men For all men being in Adam fall●n from God and traytors to his maiestie children of wrath seruants of sin and Satan because God hath cursed the earth for their sake cast them out of earthly paradise made the creatures subi●ct to vanity and themselues subject to sorrowes and miseries therfore they d●serue not to die in hell if these vaine men may be judges But we know the judgement of God is according to truth against all evill doers He telleth us the wages of sinne is death but the gift of God is eternall life through Christ Rom. 6.23 where eternall life being opposed to death sheweth that eternall death is the wages due for sin And what sin is is there that des●rveth not hell 2. Whereas they say Adam by his sin deprived himselfe of paradice it is true But if they mean earthly paradice onely they erre from the truth for by his sinne he was depriv●d also of the heavenly paradice to which there is no restoring but by Christ Luk. 23.43 Reu. 2.7 and as himself so all his posteritie that sinned in him Rom. 5. Thirdly so where they say all his posteritie were subjected to vanitie and corruption it is true but not all the truth unlesse they understand such corruption as Peter speaketh 2. Pet. 2.12 which is eternall destruction and then they yeeld the cause But they meane not so but corruption such as is in beasts birds c. wherein they goe quite astray For beasts and other brutish and s●ncelesse creatures are not sinners as all Adams children are Rom. 5 12.19 sin is not but in reasonable creatures onely as Angels and men Neither is any creature subiect to eternall torment but sinners onely Other creatures when they perish there is an end of them and of their miserie with them but they that perish in their sins haue no end of their miserie but it is eternall Math. 25.46 Mark 9.45.46 Wherfore they doe not well to expound Rom. 5. by Rom. 8 because the Apostle speaketh not of the same but of divers things and estates in those two chapters Fourthly take that which they say and it overthroweth them For how should Adams sin bring all his posteritie unto death but by their guilt in Adams sinne If it made not them sinners the scripture which they formerly alledged Ezek. 18. teacheth that the children should not dye for their fathers sinnes Now seing many infants dye daily it proveth them all to be sinners because death is the wages of sin Rom. 6 23. Gen. 2.17 At length they come to answer Rom. 5. with this perverse doctrine This is the meaning of the holy Ghost that by Adams sinne all his posteritie haue weak natures Rom. 8.3 by which when the commandement comes Rom. 7.10 th●y cannot obey and liue but sinne and so dye till when they are aliue without the law so sayth the Apostle vers 9. and thus is verified that all both Iewes and Gentiles are under sin c. Read on the scripture and you may evidently see that neither this nor any part of Gods word is spoken to or of infants Answ. This is not the Apostles meaning for he sayth not they haue weake natures but that all haue sinned and through the offence of one many are dead many were made sinners Rom. 5 12.15.19 which is more then weaknesse of nature and pronenesse to sin Secondly in Rom. 8.3 it is sayd that it the Law is weake through the fl●sh and so cannot saue any man vvhich vvords these men vvrest as if it meant Adams children vveak Which thing though it be true yet is it not that which is spoken of in Rom. 8.3 Thirdly vvhen the Apostle sayth in Rom. 7.9 that he was aliue without the law this contradicteth according to their sense the other scripture in Rom. 5 12. that all haue sinned and are dead The Apostle in Rom. 5. speaketh of things as they are in Rom. 7.9 he speaketh of things as they seemed to be but vvere not indeed Paul vvas aliue in his owne conceit thinking himselfe able to keep the Law as naturall men doe suppose they can But vvhen the commandement came to wit unto his knowledge and conscience then sin revived and he died How could this be seeing the commandement is holy just and good v. 12 He telleth us in 13 v. that sinne wrought death in him by that which was good So then he vvas sinfull though he knew it not before the commandement came sinfull by nature but not discerning this his wofull state the Law vvas given to shew it him for by the law commeth the knowledge of sinne Rom. 3.20 Againe saying in Rom. 7 11 that sinne took occasion by the commandement deceived him and slew him he plainly acknowledgeth sin to haue been in him before the commandement came this hee confirmeth in v. 14. saying the law is spirituall but I am carnall sold under sinne Whereupon he applieth the evills vvhich he did to si●ne dwelling in him v. 17.20 and this inhabiting or indwelling sinne is that originall sinne vvhereof we treat vvhich Paul for a vvhile could not discerne to be in him as all naturall men discern it not but count it an idle terme and think there is no such thing till by the Law he came to discerne it and to lament it Fourthly it is here to be observed how the Anabaptists ●grant all men haue weake natures and cannot obey and liue but sin and dye How commeth this to passe By Adams
haue it in part as they haue knowledge faith and other vertues here in part which shall be perfected in the life to come And if no more be required his fruitlesse dispute is at an end and it is worthlesse labour to answer words of winde Of Originall sin THe Anabaptists hold more erroneously then the very papists that Originall sin is an idle terme and that there is no such thing as men intend by the word In this their Dialogue they set the state of the Question thus Of the Originall estate of mankinde Wherein they speak doubtfully and deceitfully For mans originall estate is properly that described in Gen. 1 which was by creation very good But since the fall of Adam our originall estate is through that fall become sinfull and miserable and is so acknowledged by David Psal. 51.5 by Iob Iob. 14.4 by Paul Rom. 5 12 c. Eph●s 2.3 and by Ch●ist himselfe Ioh. 3 3 5 6. Notwithstanding these adversaties affirme That no infant whatsoever is in the estate of condemnation of hell with the wicked Which they thinke to proue thus Without sin there is no condemnation Rom. 6 23. Ez●k 18 4 20 Without transgression of the Law there is no sin 1 Ioh. 3 4 Rom. 5 13. Therefore if infants haue transgressed no law there is no condemnation them Answ. The conclusion which implyeth that infants are not transgressers of Gods law is denyed The Apostle teacheth us That by one man sin entered into the world and death by sinne and so death passed upon all men for that all haue sinned and by one mans disobedience many were made sinners Rom. 5 12 19. Note also how th●se men thwart ●h●mselues before when they pleaded for falling from grace one of their reasons was If the elect cannot fall out of Gods f●vour then did not all fall in Adam and th●n s●me were never dead in sinnes and trespasses and so need not Christs redemption c. Now they plead that no infants are sinners which if it be so then many as all that die infants never fell in Adam nor needed Christs redemption And so such shall either not come into heaven or shall come thither other wayes then by Christ contrary to Iob. 14 6 Act. 4 12. But these en●mies dispute against the Apostles doctrine thus Infants had no l●fe nor being at that time when the law was given to A●am and the law is given to them that know it and hath dominion over a man as long as he liv●th Therefore infants having no being and so no knowledge nor being then living that Law had no dominion over them Answ. First this is no more against infants then old men for no man had life or being at that time o●herwise then infants had So Adams fall was for himselfe alone and ●o man fell with him for no man then had life 〈◊〉 b●ing but he And thus th●se lying spirits feare not to resist the Apostle who saith Through the offence or fall of one many are dead Rom. 5.15 by the offence of one judgement come upon all men to condemnation v ●8 ●y one mans disobed●●n●e many were mad● sinners v. 1● in Adam all dyed 1 Cor. 15 22. This Apostolike doctrine is as contrary to the Anabaptists as light is to darknesse 2 They hereby weaken if they could the Apostles Argument in Heb. 7 9 10 by Levies paying tithes to Melchisedek in Abraham for a man might cavill that Levi had no life nor being at that time But Paul saith he was in the loines of his father Abraham when Melchisedek met him So say I we all were in the loines of our father Adam when he transgressed If then Levi payd tithes when Abraham did we all brake Gods law when Adam did 3 They hereby weaken as they can the Apostles proofe of our redemption by Christ for he saith that Adam is the figure of Christ that was to come and if through the offence of one many bee dead much more th● gift ●y grace by one man Iesus Christ hath abounded unto many and as by one mans disobedience many be made sinners so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous Rom. ● 14.15 19. Now take away the first namely the transgression of all men in Adam and it overthroweth the latter to weet the righteousnesse and salvation of the world by Christ. 4 They abuse the Apostles words in Rom. 7.1 whence they would proue that the Law given to Adam was given to them onely that knew it namely to Adam and his wife not to th●●r children which knew it not wh●ras the Apostle speaking to the Romanes spake to them that knew the Law the more to convince them he deneyeth not that God gaue his Law to Adam and his posterity in his loynes The Lord calleth those things which be not as though they were Rom. 4 17 he spake to Cyrus and gaue him promises before Cyrus knew him or was borne into this world Esa. 45 1 5 he promised the land to Abraham and to his seed after him when as yet he had no child Act. 7 5 he made a covenant with Israel not with them onely that stood there that day but with thē also that were not there that day with them Deut. 29 14 15. And if he did thus imply the children with the parents in other covenants promises how much more did he the like to Adams seed seeing Adam is spoken of not as a particular man but a generall so that his unrighteousnesse was not his owne onely but his childrens also even as Christs righteousnesse whom Adam figured was not his own onely but is communicated with all his children who therefore is the second Adam causing life as the first Adam caused death Rom. 5 1 Cor. 15. 5 Like vanity is in their next words Infants had then no being no life therefore the Law had no dominion over them For so they might elude Pauls argument of Levies paying tithes Heb. 7 9 10 saying Levi had then no being no life therefore he could pay no tithes in Abrahams daies But as the Apostle sayth hee was in the loines of Abraham and so hee payed tithes likewise we were in the loynes of Adam and so we sinned Again in Rom. 7 1 the Apostle speaketh of a man during life who when he is dead his wife is free from his law v. 2. If they will apply this to all sin and sinners then they think when a wicked man dieth the law of God hath no dominion over him any more so there is no punishment by the law of God to be inflicted on sinners after this life But do these vain man think by such sophistry to escape the damnation of hell Doe they not know that after death commeth judgement and that by the law Heb. 9.27 Rom. 2.12.16 Against the Apostles doctrine in Rom. 5. they alleage That we were in Adam not to bring any soule to hell for breach of that