the Righteousness of God reveal'd from Heaven against all Ungodliness and Unrighteousness of Men who hold the Truth in Unrighteousness Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them for God hath shewed it unto them For the Invisible Things of Him from the Creation of the World are clearly seen being understood by the Things that are made even his Eternal Power and God-head so that they are without Excuse because that when they knew God they Glorified him not as God neither were Thankful but became Vain in their Imaginations and their Foolish Hearts were Darken'd And even as they did not like to Retain God in their Knowledge God gave them over to a Reprobate Mind to do those things which are not Convenient These Notable Lines of that Great Apostle give an apparent Overthrow to all Objections against either the Universality or Sufficiency of the Light within which will be further manifest if the Reader be but pleas'd to observe these few Particulars 1. That in the Gospel of Christ is the Righteousness of God revealed and that from Faith to Faith 2. That this Faith the Just have ever lived by for he quotes a Time past as it is written which Writing was about 700. Years before he wrot that Epistle 3. That many had degenerated from the Righteousness of God to wit the Gentiles into Ungodliness against which the Wrath of God was revealed from Heaven 4. That they however once knew the Truth 5. That they came to the Knowledge of this Truth from the Manifestation of God who is Light within since what might be known of God was manifested in them because God had shewed it unto them 6. That the Cause of their after Darkness was their Rebelling against that Manifestation or Light not Glorifying the God that shewed it to them when they both saw it and knew him so to do Consequently that God had given them Light Sufficient both to know and obey him And since they liked not to retain God in their Knowledge the Deficiency was theirs and not the Light 's 7. If therefore their foolish Hearts were darkned that is by Disobedience it follows that therefore that Darkness came by Sin into their Hearts they had Light in their Hearts or a Light within 8 Lastly If the Wrath was therefore revealed because the hold the Truth in Unrighteousness and when they knew God by that Manifestation of Light within they glorified him not as God but became vain in their Imaginations and their foolish Hearts darkned Then certainly had they kept to that Principle call'd the Truth and the Manifestation of God within and preserv'd their Faith in God as he had reveal'd himself to them So glorifying him as God and delighting to retain him in their knowledge Not Wrath but Mercy â—…nd Peace had been revealed from Heaven as saith the same Apostle in his following Chapter to them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for Glory and Honour and Immortality ETERNAL LIFE In short This we may safely conclude that the Righteousness 〈◊〉 in the Gospel of Christ of which Paul was not ashamed from Faith to Faith by which Faith he 〈◊〉 the Just Ancients lived or were accepted is One in Nâ—…ture though not in Degree with that TRUTH the Gentiles Apstatized from and therefore lived without Faith Righteousness or God in the World for which the Wrath was revealâ—…d which had they lived up unto glorifying God as God â—…ccording to the Manifestation of himself in their Hearts and Consciences they would have had not the Revelation of Wrath but of the Righteousness of Faith by which the Just in all Ages have liv'd â—…cceptably with God For without Faith can no Man please God in any Age as without Holiness that flows from true Faith to Man shall ever see the Lord. VII And Lastly I do earnestly intreat the Unprejudic'd Reader to observe these two notable Passages which with my Consideration of them shall conclude the Scripture-Proofs I have urg'd for the Universality of the Light and Spirit of God antecedent to Christ's Appearance in the Flesh. Then Peter opened his Mouth and said Of a Truth I perceive that God is no Respecter of Persons but in every Nation He that feareth him and worketh Righteousness is accepted with him For not the Hearers of the Law are Just before God but the Doers of the Law shall be justified For when the Gentiles which have not the Law do by Nature the things contained in the Law these having not the Law are a Law unto themselves which shew the Works of the Law written in their Hearts their Consciences also bearing Witness and their Thoughts the mean while Accusing or Excusing one another in the Day when God shall judge the Secrets of Men by Jesus Châ—…ist according to my Gospel These Scriptures are a severe Check to our Adversaries undervaluing Apprehension of the blessed Light of God and that will appear in several particulars 1. God is no Respecter of Persons in any Nation from whence I honestly conclude that all Persons and Nations were inlightned as well Gentiles as Jews 2. That here are Men not of the Circumcision made with hands who fear God work Righteousness and are Doers of the Law not from any outward Obligation â—…or they had none but the inward Work of the Law writ upon 〈◊〉 Hearts which is a Demonstration that they had not only 〈◊〉 Light as a Reprover but as a Teacher and Leader whereby thâ—…y came to fear God and work Righteousness which is else-where said to be the Sum of the Matter and whole Duty of Man 〈◊〉 then no 〈◊〉 that fears God works Righteousness and keeps the 〈◊〉 Law of God as the Scriptures testifie some Gentiles to hâ—…ve done can be said to do so and yet worship false Gods or not riâ—…htly Worship the true one be void of the true Light the most part of T. Hicks his 9th page where he objects the 〈◊〉 Ignorance of the true God against the Sufficiency of the Light within and a Challenge to us to produce one Instance amonâ—… the many Thousands of Mankind that from the Light within hath been reproved for not believing Jesus to be Christ 〈◊〉 as the smoak For though perhaps he thinks he may have done a great deal in making that bold Demand of 〈◊〉 yet I shall briefly tell him that such as lived up most sincerely to the Light in their own Consciences acknowledged most readily that glorious Appearance of Light in â—…hat Body then in the World They were the great Pretenders to Scriptures that would not come to Christ the Traditional Literal and Ordinance-Men that Rejected and Crucified him and that had not both Cornelius and the Centurion with many others been upright Livers to the Light within neither 〈◊〉 Peter been so received by the one nor Christ so follow'd by the other But that measure of the Divine Light which they had thitherto obey'd as the more sure Word of Prophecy lead
leave to receive the reward of thy work at the hand of God who is just will not let the guilty go unpunished Whereas thou T. H. seemest offended at us for saying Christ is within in whom as such we have living Faith as opposed to their Faith who know not him within but expect to be saved as believing in a Person without them as thy Phrase is p. 44. It appears this is the manner of thy Expectation and Belief expecting to be saved by Jesus as a Person without thee though thou hast no real Knowledge of him as such But it is to be minded how plainly before thou hast contradicted thy Faith as thus declared where in thy 24th page upon 2 Corinth 5. 16. thou dost thus paraphrase viz. Though I Paul when a Jew and in my unconverted State only knew Christ after a fleshly manner to be a King of the Jews and to deliver only from outward Bondage and Captivity yet henceforth from the time of my Conversion I know him so no more for now I know him according to that design of infinite Grace and Love which he came to carry on in the World in being a Saviour of Sinners from Sin Death and Hell which before I knew not Thus far thou Mark here thy Contradiction is plain one while believing in and expecting to be saved by him as a Person without another while from the Time of my Conversion I know him no more after a fleshly manner for now my Knowledge of him in being a Saviour from Sin c. is not after a fleshly manner but according to the design of infinite Grace and Love From whence it follows that he is not now known to be the absolute Saviour from Sin as a Person without or as considered after a fleshly manner but after a spiritual though he was truely a Saviour in the Dayes of his Flesh by the Power of the Father by which the Saving Work alwayes was and is inwardly effected And indeed his going away or dis-appearing after the Flesh was that his Appearance and Knowledge after the Spirit might be the more revealed and the Disciples might the more know and rely upon the Comforter even Christ's Spiritual Appearance within Sect. XIX The End of Christ's Coming Example and Suffering more truely owned by the Quaker then the Dipper AGain thy implying by Way of Question as if we owned that the Word did take Flesh and that the Flesh was crucified for no other End and Purpose then meerly to be an Example p. 47. is very false against us for our owning Christ in the Flesh to be a living Example does not argue that he took Flesh and was crucified for no other End and Purpose then meerly to be an Example for he came into the World both to bear witness to the Truth to shew Light to do the Works the Father sent him to do to war against the Power of Darkness and Wickedness to exalt the Divinity the Power of the Father and to glorifie him upon Earth to pass through and fulfil the first Covenant and end the Shadows thereof and to set up the new and the living Way that the second Covenant or Testament might be established and confirmed that the Living Ministry thereof might have its free Course being inforced above and beyond all the former Types Shadows and Vails under the first Covenant And so in offering himself up freely both to do his Fathers Will and to suffer for Man-kind he gave himself a Ransom for all to be testified of in due time As also he was an eminent Example and Pattern of Innocence and Piety through all which they that slite his Example have no Benefit in his Sacrifice nor are concerned in the Ends thereof otherwise then to their own Condemnation for Christ's Innocency and Righteousness even in the Dayes of his Flesh as openly manifest do both judge and condemn all the Hypocritical Professors of Christianity who refuse following his Example while they are applying the Ends of his Coming and Suffering Sect. XX. The Baptist's Ignorance and Cavil about Redemption and the Spiritual Discoveries of Christ and his Seed WHereas thou makest a peice of thy Dialogue p. 47. run thus viz. Qua. He viz. Christ comes to work Redemption Christi I query for whom or what did he work this Redemption Qua. There is a Seed to which the Promise of Redemption is which only wants Redemption Thus Nayler in his Book Love to the Lost. Answ. Thou perverts his Words for they are not That this Seed only wants Redemption but wherein only it s seen and received viz. that in the promised Seed Redemption is only seen and received by Man or the Creature as he fully after explains Chr. Nayler saith that Christ is the Election and the Elect Seed and Fox in his great Mystery the Seed hath been laden c. which Seed is the Hope Christ. Answ. If God was so prest as a Cart with Sheaves and his Spirit grieved by mens Sins is it otherwise with his Seed in them And it thou wert not willfully blind and hardened thou wouldst not raise such a Consequence from the Words before perverted by thee while the Scripture mentions the Seed under a two-sold Consideration 1st As to Christ to whom the Promises originally are as being Heir of all 2ly As to the Children of Promise the Children of the Kingdom the true Believers who are truely Israel and of Abraham's Seed according to the Faith Now know that Christ the promi ed Seed hath entred into Sufferings and Travel of Soul to bring forth his Seed as it s written He shall see his Seed he shall see of the Travel of his Soul and shall be satisfied So he came not to redeem or save himself as absurdly thou infers but to bring forth and redeem a Seed which shall serve him and be counted for a Generation And the Life of Christ as manifest in mortal Flesh hath pertaken of the Afflictions of the Upright in all Ages and the Spirit of God is grieved the just Principle oppressed and offended with mens Iniquities and Transgressions So Christ considered as a Seed and in that low Estate is capable of being formed in man both of being raised up in man by the Power of the Father of growing up as a tender Plant and as a Root out of dry Ground and so of receiving Power and Help from him as indeed every Seed that 's sown and every Plant that takes Root is capable of receiving Vertue and Nourishment according to its kind or else it cannot be quickned to Life grow or bring forth Fruit And such a Growth of the immortal Seed was both in Christ and in his People which must be owned if the Seed of the Kingdom within and the Spiritual Birth or forming of Christ within or he as a Seed or Plant of Renown be known and owned or a Suffering Crucifying Dying and Living with Christ be witnessed by man For Christ's Suffering Cross Death Resurrection
his Prologue prefixt in some Bibles he saith thus viz. W. Tindal unto the Christian Reader If ought seem Changed or not altogether agreeing with the Greek let the Finder of the Fault consider the Hebrew Phrase or Manner of Speech left in the Greek Words whose Preterperfect Tense and Present Tense is oft both one and the Future Tense is the Optative Mood also and the Future Tense is oft the Imperative Mood in the Active Voyce and in the Passive evâ—…r likewise Person for Person Number for Number and Interrogation for a Conditional and such like is with the Hebrews and Common usage and he further adds if I shall perceive either by my self or by the Information of others that ought be escaped me or might be more plainly Translated I will shortly after cause it to be amended howbeit in many places me thinketh it better to put a Declaration in the Margâ—…nt then to run too far from the Text. Now from hence considering the Difficulty of truly translating the Scriptures from the Hebrew both as to Time Manner Voice Person Number and Condition c. how easily herein may the Sense be greatly changed and how this ingenuous Translator himself doth not place Infallibility upon his Work or Translation from the Hebrew but ingenuously proffereth Amendment of it if either by himself or an others Information he shall perceive a Deficiency in which he hath done and also considering what Irreconcileable Controversies have been among many counted Learned about the Translations in divers Places of Scriptures and how many Amendments have from Time to Time been made upon them and even how many various English Translations we have what Dubiousness and Uncertainty are both Priests and People in both as to Rule Faith and Foundation of their Religion who neither know nor own the Principle of true Knowledge and divine Understanding which is God's Gift while they have no regard to divine Illumination as the Rule of Faith before the Scriptures but do cry and set up one while a meer Translation or Reading which to them may be dubious as their only highest infallible Rule of Faith another while their own uncertain Meanings private Conceptions and fallible Interpretations upon the Scriptures they set up as the Rule and Judge over them as their Phrase hath been to Reconcile the Scriptuâ—…es which as given by divine Inspiration cannot be broken And while still their Work tends to divert peoples Minds from depending upon the Spirit of Truth and its Inlightning as the chief and only infallible Guide and Rule where will they center and what a Babylonish Structure do they erect upon their uncertain Conjectures and dubious Interpretations from their fallible Spirits and Judgments And to place Infallibility upon the Letter or Writing or English Translation whereas W. Tindal a Translator himself did not attribute this to his Translation nor divers others in their putting many marginal Notes upon some English Bibles as from the Hebrew and Greek and even their learned D. Ceâ—…l set forth a large Book in Folio entituled An Essay to the Amendment of the Last English Translation of the Bible whâ—… he finds fault with and corrects several noted Places and what less is signified in their ample Annotations and manifold Notes upon some Bibles And moreover when some of the Clergy have made that of Job 2. 9. their Texit viz. that Job's Wife said unto him Curse God 〈◊〉 dye they have told People that that Hebrew Text signifieth Bless God and dye and some take it so as to desire humbly of God that he might dye which arguing Impatiency was reproveable others that it was Curse God and dye which was much more reproveable not only as Foolishness but Wickedness And concerning that of Saul and the Witch of Endor his bidding her bring him up Samuel it 's said And when the Woman saw Samuel ver 12. and Saul know that it was Samuel vers 14. And Samuel said unto Saul why hast thou disquieted me c. ver 15. then said Samuel ver 16. So the matter runs in Samuel's name Whereas those of the Clergy have told us it was Satan and that Saul spake according to his gross Ignorance not considering the slate of the Saints after this Life and how Satan hath no Power over them it was Satan who to blind Saul's Eyes took upon him the Form of Samuel c. Now seeing this Interpretation is so plainly contrary to the Words themselves for which I blame them not in this though in many others I do I query how theâ—… agrees this with their placing Infallibility upon the Scriptures not only on the Doctrinal but on the Historical Part when they are minded to oppose the Sufficiency of the Light of Christ within Many more Instances might be brought to shew their vast Variations from the Letter of the Scriptures in their Interpretations By the Tenor of all which Discourse before of this Import it 's evident that their Confession at least of many of them is that aâ—…l the Scriptures are not Infallible but some Corrupted in the various Translations â—…hers not to be taken meerly as the Words import Howbeit for all this many Priests and Professors for their own Ends if they be about to oppose the Light within or divine Illumination and the Sufficiency of the holy Spirit 's Teaching denying it to be either the Rule of Faith or Life or sufficient to guide to Heaven without the Scriptures which argues their gross and carnal Diffidence and sinful Unbelief then in plain Contradiction they place all the Infallibility and sole Sufficiency therein upon the Scriptures as the only highest Rule of Faith and Life the only Rule and Way to Heaven and Glory the only Rule totry both Doctrines and Spirits by And here they most Idolatrously and in a most preâ—…sterous Manner prefer the Scriptures before Christ and set them up above the Spirit that gave them forth while they slight and cry down the Light of Christ within as not any Rule c. though it both manifests all things reproveable and be the Prover of Deeds whether they are wrought in God for which End he that doth Truth bringeth his Deeds to the Light Joh. 3. 19 20. But as Christ said to the unbelieving Jews so it may justly be said to these Opposers of his Light within now Ye search the Scriptures for in them ye think to have Eternal Life and they are they which testifie of me but ye will not come to me that you might have Life Joh. 5. 39 40. Mark ye will not come to Christ that ye might have Life and now the Scriptures do not direct Men to themselves for Life and Salvation but to the Son of God who is both the Life the Foundation the Way and so the only Rule Guide and Teacher and not the Scriptures But why do the Presbyters of our Times so often exalt their own divers Meanings and Interpretations as the Rule above the Scriptures contrary to the great
So that a Sincere Faith in and Obedience to the Light of Christ as it shines in the Heart whereby to give the Living and Experimental Knowledge of the Glory of God unto the Creature is the Way to be Redeemed from Darkness and to be made a Child of Light or that there is Power and Vertue Sufficient in the Light to Ransom the Souls of such as diligently adhere to it from under the Power of Darkness For as the true Knowledge of God is Life Eternal so whatever may be known of God is manifested within which Manifestation cannot properly be without the Light whose peculiar Property it is to Discover Reveal or Manifest the Mind and Will of God to Mankind as saith the Apostle For whatsoever doth make Manifest is Light In him was Life and that Life was the Light of all Men But not therefore the Life of all Men Spiritually and Unitedly considered That was the peculiar Priviledge of those who Believ'd in it and walkt up to it There is a great Difference not in the Principle but in its Appearance to Man as Life and Light Such as believe in it IT What the Word-God who is that true Light as he appears to Discover or Illuminate the Heart and Conscience do really know and enjoy a new Nature Spirit and Life And in that Sense it may be said As the Life became the Light so the Light became the Life again Who so follows me shall not walk in Darkness but have the Light of Life Not that there is a Difference or so much as a Descent in Kind from Life to Light only in Operation with respect to Man For as it is the very Life of the Word in the Word it is the Light of Men and so much it is let them reject the Vertue of it if they will But as it is received and believed in It begets Life Motion Heat and every Divine Qualification suitable to the State of the New Birth And thus the Life of the Word which is in common the Light becomes the Life of every such Particular by communicating to or ingenerating Life in the Soul so that no more he lives but Christ the Word-God whom he hath now put on and who is become his very Life as well as Light that dwelleth in him Let not Men then in their Dark Imaginations with their Rob'd Knowledge from the Letter of the Scriptures themselves contend against the Sufficiency of what they obey not neither have seriously tryed the Power Vertue and Efficacy of it which brings Salvation to as many as are turned to it and abide in it And indeed so express are the Scriptures in Defence of the Sufficiency and Necessity of the Light to Salvation that it seems to have been the great Intendment of our Lord Jesus Christ in delegating his Disciples to preach his Everlasting Gospel viz. That they might open the Eyes of People and turn them from Darkness to the Light and from the Power of Satan unto God that they might receive Remission of Sins and an Inheritance among them that are Sanctified through Faith that is in Me who ME that am both the Light of the World and the Power of God unto Salvation Now certainly the Eyes that were then blind were not the Natural but Spiritual Eyes of Men and such must the Darkness and Light be also blinded by the God of this World who raigned in the Hearts of the Children of Disobedience No Wonder then if the Light was not comprehended of the Darkness and that blind People did not see the Light but it plainly proves That Light there was though not seen Now the Work of the Powerful Ministry of the Apostles was To open the Blind or Dark Eye which the God of the World had blinded and then to turn them from that Darkness to the Light the Darkness was within so must the Light have been since the Illumination was there necessary where the Darkness had been predominant Consequently The Way to be Translated from Satan's Power to God to have Remission of Sins and an Inheritance with them that are Sanctified is to be turned from the Darkness in the Heart unto the Marvelous Light that had long shined uncomprehended to wit the GOSPEL which is called both the Light and Power of God The same Apostle in his Epistle to the Romans is more express concerning the holy Nature and Efficacy of the Light to Salvation when he thus exhorts them The Night is far spent the Day is at hand Let us therefore cast off the Works of Darkness and put on the Armour of Light Let us walk honestly as in the Day not in Rioting and Drunkenness not in Chambring and Wantonness not in Strife and Envy but put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ and make no provision for the Flesh to fulfill the Lusts thereof From whence I shall briefly remark three Things greatly to our Purpose and the Truths Defence in this Matter 1. That there is an absolute Opposition betwixt Light and Darkness as Darkness can only Vail the Light from the Understandings of Men So Light only can Discover and Dispel that Darkness Or thus That the Light Manifests and Condemns the Works of Darkness for what Communion hath Light with Darkness 2. That in the Light there is ARMOUR which being put on is able to Conquer the Darkness and Secure the Soul from the evil of it otherwise it would be very strange that the Apostle should exhort the People to put it on 3. That putting on the Armour of the Light and putting on the Lord Jesus Christ the Light of the World are Synonimous or one and the same thing for it is for one and the same End as may be observed from the Words Let us put on the Armour of Light and walk Honestly as in the Day not in Rioting and Drunkenness not in Chambring and Wantonness not in Strife and Envying But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ and make no provision for the Flesh to fulfil the Lusts thereof I hope then Neither will it be disallow'd that Christ is that Light with which Men are Inlightned but more of that anon nor is that Light Men are exhorted to Obey a Naked and Insufficient but a Searching Expelling Powerful and Arming Light against Darkness and all its Unfruitful Works and consequently SAVING Thus the Beloved Disciple testifies very emphatically in his first Epistle where he gives us a Relation of the Apostolical Mission This then is the Message which we have heard of him and declare unto you That God is Light and in him is no Darkness at all if we say we have Fellowship with him and walk in Darkness we Lye and do not the Truth But if we walk in the Light as he is in the Light we have Fellowship one with another and the Blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all Sin Here is a brief Stating of the whole Great Case of Salvation 1. What God
received and abode in them would lead them iâ—…to all Truth and that they needed not that any man should teach them To deny this to have been the Saints Teacher is to deny as plain a Proposition as is in the whole Scripture and that one Age of Christianity should have one Rule and another Age another Rule that the Spirit we but the Letter is more then any Man can prove yet did John's so writing invalid the Scripture or vilifie his own Epistle Certainly none will talk so idly How then doth our lifting up the Light and Spirit of Christ which fulfils the Scriptures by bringing such as are led thereby to enjoy the good things therein declared reject and vilifie the Scriptures Does our living up to them by an higher Rule make us to deny and reprobate them Erasmus and Grotius think them then most to be valued when men are Witnesses of them see on 2 Pet. 1. 19 20. I do acknowledge they contain an Account of several heavenly Prophecies godly Reproofs and Instructions that ought to be obeyed Obj If so Then how are they not a Rule of Faith and Life Answ. A Rule and the Rule are not one and the same thing By the Rule of Faith and Life I understand the living spiritual immediate omnipresent discovering ordering Spirit of God And by a Rule some Instrument by and through which this great Rule may convey its Direction Such a subordinate secondary and dâ—…claratory Rule we never said several parts of Scripture were not yet the Reason of our Obedience is not meerly because they are there written that were legal but because they are the eternal Precepts of the Spirit in Mens Consciences there repeated and declared Iâ—… is the Tâ—…stimony of the Spirit that is the true Rule for believing and understanding of any or all the Scripture therefore not the Scripture but the Spirit of Truth must be the Rule for mens believing understanding c. Thus held the Ancients Tâ—…rtullian saith Worldly Wisdom the Lord calls Foolishne ss he hath chosen the soolish things of the World to the confounding of Philosophy for that is the Matter of Worldly Wisdom a divine Interpreter of the divine Nature and Disposings Justin Martyr in Exposit. â—…id The Interpretation of the Scriptures is to be a commodated to the Will of the Doctrine of the Spirit and not to human Reasonings Hieron saith The Scriptures musâ—… be opened with spiritual Exposition Epiphanius saith Only â—…o the Children of the holy Ghost all the Scriptures are plain and cleâ—…r Nor were the most approved Protestants of any sort who have been so reputed in Opposition to Popery of another mind It is the Substance of the sourth Article exhibited against the Lutherans in the Council of Trent as an Erroneous Doctrine they held That to understand the Scripture neither Gâ—…oss nor Comment is necessary but only to have the Spirit of a Sheep of Christ's Pasture Erasmus tells us What Man sets forth by Man's Deâ—…ice may be received by Man's Wit But the thing that is set forth by the Inspiraâ—…ion of the Holy Ghost requireth an Interpreter inspired with the like Spirit and without the Inspiration of it the Secrets of God cannot be known Luther giveth us his Mind thus The Scriptures are not to be understood but by that very Spirit by which they were writ Peter Martyr that famous Italian Protestant teacheth us The Spirit is the Abettor by which we must assure our selves for understanding of the Scriptures that thereby we must discern between Christ's Words and a Strangers quoting Christ's Words My Sheep know my Voice and several other places of Scriptures Again The Spirit of God revâ—…aleth the Truth in the Scriptures H. Bullinger Decad. 4. Serm. 8. Men â—…etch the Understanding of Heavenly Things and Knoâ—…ge of the Holy Ghost from NOWHERE ELSE but from the same Spirit John Bradford answerd to the Arch-Bishop of York thus We know the Scriptures as Christ's Sheep by the same Spirit that wrote and spake them being thereby assured c. Calvin teacheth thus in his Institutes It is necessary the same Spirit that spake by the Mouth of the Prophâ—…ts should pierce into our Hearts to perswade us that they faithfully delivered that which was committed to them of God Beza saith That the Way of understanding Prophecies and referring them to the right Scope must be sought or fetcht from the same Spirit which dictated them to the Prophets themselves and more to that purpose W. Tindal call'd the English Apostle by J. Fox saith It is impossible to understand in the Scriptures more then a Turk for any that hath not the Law of God writ in the Heart to sulfil it Bp. Jewel thus against Harding The Spirit of God is bound neither to Sharpness of Wit nor to Abundance of Learning Flesh and Blood is not able to understand the Holy Will of God without SPECIAL REVELATION Without this SPECIAL HELP and PROMPTING OF GOD's SPIRIT the Scripture is to the Reader be he never so Wisâ—… and well-Learned as the Vision of a sealed Book D. Ames a great Father of the Independents saith upon Bellarmin's wordâ—… The Anointing of the Holy Spirit doth teach the Faithful to understand those things which they received of the Apostles therefore to understand the Scriptures in those things which are necessary to Salvation with more to that purpose Vatablâ—…s on Job 32. 8. with Drusius Clarius and others speak to the same effect G. Crâ—…dock a famous Independent Preacher preacht That the Scripture is a Speechless thing without the Spirit Ch. Goad an eminent Separatist's Works styl'd B. D. of K. Colledge in Cambridge and an Independent Pastor thus taâ—…ght There is no Knowledge of Christ nor of the Scripture but by Revelation D. J. Owen a man of greatest Fame among the present Independents saith The publick authentick and infallible Interpreter of the holy Scripture is HE who is the AUTHOR of them from the BREATHING OF WHOSE SPIRIT IT DERIVETH ALL ITS VERITY PERSPICUITY AND AUTHORITY So that we see upon the Judgment of many considerable Persons the Scripture is no Rule for our believing and understanding of it self therefore not The Rule of Faith and Practice coâ—…cerning the things therein declared I will give a short Instance in Christ's words about Regeneration He taught and strange it was no doubt to wise Nicodemus That unlâ—…ss a Man be born again he cannot see the Kingdom of God This is as plain a Proposition as can be laid down and may be credited Historically But what is that to any â—…s New Birth that they are never like to 〈◊〉 â—…formed of there Nor can that Scripture be my Rule in that Heavenly Travail respecting the many and wonderful Tryals and Exercises that are to be met with in it neither can any other Writing whatever This only is the Office of that Spirit Word immortal by which I am anew
not planted a Light in man that opposeth the Covenant of Grace nor is the Light of Câ—…rist repugnant to 〈◊〉 Christianity neither can the least degree oppâ—…se the greater Thou proceeds thus T. H. How comes it to pass that Jesus Christ as to the great end of coming into the World is so much neglected and the Stress of many men's Hopes laid upon something in themselves Hence the Hope of the Hypocrite is compared to the Spiders Web being spun out of their own Bowels Do you not see this in your selves who are the greatest Admirers of the Light within p. 38. Answ. Still thou runs upon thy gross mistake of the Light within whereby thou falsely reflects upon us for relying on it for First Our Hope and Dependance upon the least degree of the Light of Christ in us which is the divine Life of him as the Eternal Word this can neither oppose nor neglect the great ends of Christ's coming into the World in the Flesh any more then John's bearing witness to the Life of the Word being the Light of men could oppose the Word becoming or taking Flesh. 2ly What were those great ends of Christ's so coming into the World but evidently to shew forth and exalt that divine Light and Salvation in a greater Fulness and Manifestation which in some degree did before universally shine throughout all Ages or otherwayes how could Christ be the Rock of Ages or his Outgoings from of old from everlasting And whence in the dayes of his Flesh shewed he Light through his innocent Life Ministry and Miracles but from that divine Power and Glory of the Father in him for God did work them by him 3ly After it s testified concerning God the Eternal Word that in him or in it was Life and the Life was the Light of men Joh. 1. 4. It s said that the Word was made Flesh and dwelt amongst us or tabernacled in us and we beheld his Glory as of the only begotten of the Father full of Grace and Truth ver 14. and of his Fulness have all we received Grace for Grace ver 16. Now mark this discovery of his Glory Grace and Fulness was a divine discovery being as of the only begotten of the Father of whom John said he that cometh after me is preferred before me for he was before me verse 15. The divine Light of the Word was that by which they had this discovery of Christ which was beyond that of the outward or fleshly Appearance which might be seen with a visible Eye but the other only seen by the Eye invisible and Spiritual So that this coming of Jesus Christ into the World was so far from lessening or destroying his spiritual Light of him as the eternal Word in men that it was to increase the Knowledge of it and in order to bring it forth in its Brightness and Glory for the Revelation of the perfect Day of Salvation And herein he came to render the Appearance and Testimony of his Light within the more valid and effectual men having erred and been estranged from it Now is it consistent with the Hope of the Hypocrite to obey the measure of the Light of Christ within in order to receive more Is it not rather consistent with the Hope of the Hypocrite to hope that their Sins are pardoned and they justified by the Righteousness and Obedience of Christ wholely without them while they are rebelling against sliting and rejecting his Light within them and so living in their Sins and Impurity And this is thy State and Hope as will further appear for who have received Power to become the Sons of God whom the World knoweth not because it knew not him they have that Hope and Expectation of being made like unto Christ through his Appearance and every man that hath this Hope in him purifieth himself even as he is pure 1 Joh. 3. therefore this Hope which they have in them is both living and effectual and to be fore it is not placed upon Darkness but upon the Light For it is the Inlightening of the Eyes of the Understanding whereby a Soul is capable of seeing what is the Hope of his calling and the Power that wrought in Christ when God raised him up from the dead Therefore thou who rejects the Light within thy Eye is blind thy Hope is the Hope of the Hypocrite thou neglects the great ends of Christ's coming into the World which was not only to condemn Sin in the Flesh as his Light within effectually doth but also to shew and increase Light and to manifest the day of God's Salvation by his divine Power in delivering man from Sin and Wrath. Sect. XVII His Slander about the Person Offices Sufferings and Blood of Christ and continued Abuse of the Light within T. H. WHat contemptible Thoughts you have of the Person Offices and Sufferings of Jesus Christ that you account his Blood no more than you do the Blood of a common Thief p. 38. Answ. 'T is no new thing for thee to slander us while by opposing and rejecting the Light within thou art become hardned and seared in Conscience These are such notorious Slanders that thousands can witness against thee therein When did ever any of us express such contemptible Thoughts of Christ his Offices or Sufferings If we had never exprest any such thing how comest thou to judge our Thoughts to be such And where did ever any of us express such an Account of his Blood that was shed as no more then that of a common â—…hief The Lord rebuke thee for this thy abominable Slander as I doubt not but he will T. H. And esteem Justification by that Righteousness which Christ wholy fulfilled in his own Person without us to be a Doctrine of Devils p. 38. Answ. Though these are not our Words we do not own the Doctrine viz. That men are justified wholy without them by what Christ fulfilled in his own Person only for this is not the Language of the Scriptures which thou pretendest to be thy Rule Christ fulfilled the Righteousness of the Law in his Person but here thou makest no Exception but that Justification is by that Righteousness which Christ wholy fulfilled in his own Person without us men will only believe this when they reject the Light within as thou hast taught them But we are not justified by the Righteousness of the Law nor by any Act of Christ meerly as done in his Person but by the Righteousness of Faith in which we are interested in Christ as we are Partakers of living Faith which are inseparable But what is this Justification thou wouldst advance as wholy wrought without thee Is it either in Reallity a making men just or an accepting of them as Just and Righteous who are so in Reallity or is it a reckoning of them so who are actually sinful If the former then 't is not wholy wrought without but the inward Effect of the Blood of Christ in cleansing from Sin is
Spiritually minded come to see the Glory of God and Jesus or the Son oâ—… Man at his right hand XIV Of Perfection H. G. WE do not believe 't is possible to attain to such a Degree of Perfection as to be as pure from Sin as Jesus Christ was p. 62. I know not what such should call one the Name of the Lord for c. p. 63. H. G. Contra. We can experience the Power of Christ's Spirit risen in us for our Sanctification and Renovation p. 54. He doth adopt regenerate make others Children of God by the Effectual Workings of his blessed Spirit in their Hearts by which they are interrested into all the Priviledges Promises and Blessings of the Covenant of Grace p. 91 92. Anim. We believe that the Spirit and Power of Christ working in our Hearts is able to sanctifie throughout and his Blood to cleanse from all Sin and that in Christ who is the Covenant of Grace all the Promises of God are yea and amen and that Covenant is both a Covenant of Forgiveness and therein Sin is taken away as God hath promised Jer. 31. I will cleanse them from all their Iniquity Jer. 33. 8. Ezek. 36. 25. All things are possible with God and we can do all things through Christ that strengthneth us Phil. 4. 13. who commanded Be ye perfect as your Heavenly Father is perfect and its possible through his Power Aid to keep his Commands otherwise for what End are they given out to his Church and People and for what End should they pray to take away all Iniquity On whom we believe he does not impose Impossibilities but to such as dwell in the Love of God his Commands are not grievous but joyous XV. The Light within above an Historical Knowledge WHereas to undervalue the Light within which all Men have H. G. affirms that none can make appear that ever any Heathen Aethiopian Moor or Infidel in any remote Parts that never heard the Scripture c. That ever did attain meerly by that Light within to the Knowledge of one Jesus of Nazareth that was crucified without the Gates of Jerusalem that meerly by the Help and Guidance of that Light within came to find out so much as the Name or historical Knowledge of a cruciefid Jesus p. 70. Answ. 1. As an historical Knowledge and Profession concerning Christ and his Sufferings in the Flesh cannot save you so it s very uncharitable in you Baptists to condemn all Nations that have it not meerly for want of the History or that historical Knowledge 2. Though you have a historical Faith and Profession of Jesus as he came and suffered in the Flesh I deny that this Faith will either save you for they have as much Faith at Rome or that you have from thence any real Knowledge of Christ either as in the Flesh or in the Spirit either as crucified as put to Death or as living and reigning It s still your Mistake to count your dark Opinions and litteral Notions the Light of the Son of God Nay if you have no further Faith and Knowledge of him then what 's meerly historical and litteral If you have not a spiritual and divine Knowledge of Christ as inwardly revealed you 'll dye in your Sin and perish for lack of Knowledge And many of those called Heathens who follow the Help and Guidance of the Light of Christ within shall come from the East and from the West and from the North and from the South nd shall sit down with Abraham Isaac and Jacob in the Kingdom as Children of Faith and Heirs of Promise who have believed God and obeyed his Light in them when you and such like litteral Professors shall be utterly rejected unless you return to Christ's Light within and believe and wait in it to know Christ's inward and spiritual Appearance and Revelation 3. In the Gospel preacht to Abraham in whose Seed all Nations should be blessed It was foreseen that God would justifie the Heathen through Faith and accordingly Christ was absolutely promised and given for a Light to the Gentiles to be God's Salvation to the Ends of the Earth that he might say to the Prisoners go forth and them that are in Darkness shew yourselves Isa. 42. and Ch. 49. Now observe that the Promise of Christ both for a Light to the Gentiles and Salvation to the Ends of the Earth and himself to speak to the Prisoners to go forth c. it s absolute and not restrained or limitted to the spreading of Scripture nor to any such Condition as to be a Light and Salvation or to speak only to such as get the Bible and have the Scriptures or an historical Knowledge and Profession of Jesus Christ but he is given both for a Light to the Heathen and Salvation to the Ends of the Earth and so to call forth the Prisoners where the Scriptures are not he being in himself absolute and perfect and so able to be whatever he is promised of God and this Salvation is absolutely placed upon the Son of God who is given both for a Light a Leader God's Covenant and Salvation and therefore he is to be followed obeyed and depended on for Life and Salvation 4. Moreover It s possible to have both the Sufferings and Glory of Christ revealed by his Light and Spirit without the Scriptures seeing the Spirit of Christ shewed and testified aforehand unto the Prophets of his Sufferings and of the Glory that should follow 1 Pet. 1. 11. to be sure they who first wrote Scripture of these things aforehand had them first discovered or opened unto them by the Spirit 5. And when Nebuchadnezer said Lo I see four Men loose walking in the midst of the Fire and they have no Hurt and the Form of the fourth is like the Son of God Dan. 3. 25. How came this Heathen to have any such Impression or Similitude of the Son of God in his Mind as thus to speak of the Son of God or of the fourth as represented to him like the Son of God And what Scripture could he have for this pray you Or for Nebuchadnezer and Darius to speak so truly and admirably as they did of the Kingdom and Dominion of the most high God Dan. 4. 3. and Chap. 6. 26. Let the narrow-Spirited Litteralists and partial Predestinators who would place all true Knowledge upon the Letter and confine it within the Compass of a few Professors of Scripture consider these things 6. But seeing that Christ dyed for all Men tasted Death for every Man and gave himself a Ransom for all God doth therefore no doubt afford a Way for the universal Conveyance of the Vertue and blessed Effects inwardly of his Death and Blood to Man-kind and that is his divine Light though many have not the outward Description thereof XVI His unlearned Question AS to H. G's Question p. 70. viz. I shall only ask this one Question what things and other Signs were those which Jesus did
true Union with him and Knowledge of him to experience his Indwelling as he dwelleth in us and we in him if we keep his Commandments and thus the true Believer hath the Witness in himself which that thou mightst experience was thy Sister 's wholsom Advice to thee to believe in the Light that reproves for Sin which enlightens every one that cometh into the World and so thou mightst in Love and Humility have received the Witness in thy self which if thou hadst obeyed thou durst never have prayed so wickedly as God forbid that ever I should own their Principle of the Light in all contrary to thy pretended Praises and Hallelujah to God for the Witness within neither coâ—…ldst thou have opposed the Witness in the Believer to the Light which reproves for sin which enlighteth every man as thou hast done H. G. This Witness through Grace I in measure do Experience not that I believe in that Light which every man that cometh into the World is inlightened with for Life and Salvation that is insufficient c. pag. 19. Answ. If thou rejectest the Gift or Measure of the Light or Life of Christ within thou rejectest the saithfull Witness Christ the Giver and canst not know him to be thy Saviour while thou art disobedient to his Light within and Christ and his Light in man are so inseperable that he who obeys and believes in his Light within he and his Faith must needs have a dependance upon Christ the Enlightner who is the Object Author and Finisher of Faith and so upon God who is the Fountain of Light who shineth in man's heart to give the knowledge of his Glory in the Face of his Son and hereby is the benefit of him as the one Offering and the vertue of his Blood known that both Sanctifies and makes Perfect XII His Groundless Comparison and Distinction between the Light of God in Man and the Light of Christ or Gospel further Refuted ANd whereas in thy other Book from Rom. 1. 19. and Chap. 2. 14 15. thou callest the Law or Light of God in men The Law or Light of the Moon to Guide their Paths by which they are taught their duty to God in morrals but understand nothing of the glorious Mystery of the Gospel pag. 6â—… To this I Answer 1. Those Gentiles mentioned in Rom. 1. had a Sight and Knowledge of the Invisible things of God even his Eternal Power and God-head ver 19 20. was this but the Light of the Moon and was there nothing of the Gospel or Mystery of it in this whereas the very reason of their becoming foolish vain in their Imaginations darkned and reprobated in their minds was that because that when they knew God they glorified him not as God ver 21. they did not like to retain God in their knowledge ver 28. Therefore if they had continued in the Light given them glorified him as God and retained him in their knowledge they had been preserved unto Salvation out of that dark reprobate state and out of those gross evils which they fell into 2. Those Gentiles mentioned Rom. 2. 15. were accused or excused according to that Light or Law of God in their hearts and the secrets of them and all men to be Judged by Jesus Christ according to the Gospel but could this be or were it Just if there were no Law nor Light of Jesus Christ and Gospel given men are they and their secrets to be judged by a Law or Light which they never had in secret for my Part I know none so gross and partial as to affirm it on any serious Thoughts or Consideration 3. If the Light of God and his Knowledge be but the Light of the Moon and the Light of Christ the Light of the Sun how doth he demonstrate this difference between God and Christ and the Light of each and wherein the Glory of the one so far exceedeth the other or can any suppose there is a Light proceeding from Christ as man that so far excels the Light flowing from him as he is God or the Eternal Word as the Light of the Sun doth the Light of the Moon what Scripture hath H. G. for this distinction are not God and Christ and holy Spirit One and one Eternal Light and Fulness in their own Being and so the Light immediately shining or flowing thence unto man's Heart and Conscience one Divine Light though manifest by degrees and in several measures being still one in kind in man And this which H. G. calleth the Law or Light of the Moon is granted to be 1st The Light of Jesus Christ as the Eternal Word 2dly That which may be known of God manifest in men 3dly That Light which gives the Light and Knowledge of God and his Eternal Power 4dly The Law written in the Gentiles hearts who were a Law to themselves to which I add If men truely believe in and obey the Light of the Eternal Word in them and retain the sence and Knowledge of God as therein they receive it they will find Preservation and Acceptance with God for is the Improvement of any more then what 's given required XIII His belying us with denying the Man Christ Jesus to cloak his own Absurdity and Ignorance of Christ and his Being AGain H. G. To prove thy slanders 1. That we deny the man Christ Jesus 2. That we are found daily in the Sight of all Persons denying that man to be Christ who was born of the Virgin c. pag. 20 21. Thou judgest us insolent for saying we are falsly accused and guilty of this If it be absurd as we judge it is to say Christ doth Consist of a human Body of Flesh and Bone pag. 21. which is thy own absurdity To these I say Though we never deny'd the man Christ Jesus nor him to be Christ that was born of the Virgin according to the Flesh yet I must still count it absurd to say That Christ doth Consist or is made up of a human Body of Flesh and Bone for that 1. because Christ the Son of God was and had a Being before he took upon him that Flesh or Body in the Virgin 2. Because that when he took upon him that Body and even in the dayes of the Flesh he was spirit as well as had Flesh. 3. In that he is ascended up where he was before and far above all Heavens and is glorified with the same Glory that he had with the Father before the World began 4. He was before all things and by him all things consist this is truely our Christ and Saviour But If your Christ doth consist of a human or earthly Body of Flesh and Bone our Christ who consisteth of quickning spirit and heavenly Body of divine Life and Light a spiritual and glorious body is above you and yours so we must leave you Anabaptists with your earthly Christ consisting of a human Body of Flesh and Bone together with your empty and lifeless Shadows
in himself by the same eternal Spirit by which the Saints were both Washed Cleansed Sanctified and Justified 1 Cor. 6. 11. Through the same eternal Spirit the same Power the same Righteousness the same Holiness the same Faith the same Love the same Patience c. that was in Christ do they partake of who truly follow him and walk in his steps having his Life manifest in them and received the Spirit of the Son which receives of his things and giveth unto them who walk after the Spirit not after the Flesh But Quest. What can we give to God for our Souls proportionable to so Great a Loss to so great Sufferings Sanctification and Holiness or a little Faith and the Works that follow This is likely to do Answ. A groundless Question in the first place no man can redeem his Brother nor give to God a Ransom for him for the Redemption of the Soul is pretious and so pretious as that which cannot be procured without a Price of Infinite Value Christ gave himself a Ransom for all 't is Christ himself that ransoms saves and redeems the Soul to God and that through Sanctification or washing of Regeneration and Christ is made unto us who believe in him both Righteousness Sanctification and Redemption however this man undervalues Saâ—…ctification and a little Faith and though it be the Gift oâ—… God to us and not ours to him and the Saints Victory we have not given to God the Ransom nor the Price he Loved us first and therefore we Love and believe in him and in this was manifested the Love of God towards us because he sent his only begotten Son into the World that we might Live through him 1 Joh. 4. Again though the Phrase Merit of Christ's Blood and Sufferings be not a Scripture Phrase yet the Worth and Value thereof with respect to man's Salvation we never disesteemed since we knew the true and spiritual Application Virtue and Effects of his Blood c. through his Light and Spirit to the purging our Consciences cleansing and justifying which yet is an inward Experience not shut out nor put afar off by the true Church whom God hath purchased with his own Blood not redeemed with corruptible thing but with the pretious Blood of Christ which therefore is incorruptible Act. 20. 28. 1 Pet. 1. 17 18. cited by S. S. But then he egregiously mistakes in saying viz. Let us then with Paul abhor all Sanctification in us all Holiness all Works of Faith whatever is wrought by us in Comparison of what we spie by Faith in Christ. Answ. A very gross Mistake and Perversion an Abuse of Paul and of those Hearers to whom S. S. preaches such impious Doctrine It was not Sanctification or Holiness within nor yet the Works or Obedience of Faith that Paul either abhorred or rejected for the Excellency of the Knowledge of Christ or that he might win Christ but it was his former Confidence in the Flesh his own self-Righteousness which was of the Law and all those things that had been deemed as Gain to him that he counted Loss for Christ and for whom he suffered the Loss of all those things and counted them but as Dung that he might win Christ which he could not so account of all Sanctification or Holiness wrought by Christ within nor of the Works of Faith Can it be any less then Blasphemy as in this man's Sense thus to present and read Paul viz. I abhor all Sanctification within all Holiness and Works of Faith and I count them but all Loss for the Excellency of the Knowledge of Christ Jesus and have suffered the Loss of all my inward Holiness Sanctification and Works of Faith and do count them but Dung that I may win Christ c. How unlike Paul odious and gross were it thus to pervert his Words as to say Let us with Paul abhor all Sanctification in us c. neither doth Paul make any such Difference or Repugnancy between Christ's inward Work of Sanctification and the Excellency of his Knowledge nor between being in the Faith or Obedience thereof and being in Christ and his Righteousness but really desired that he might be found in Christ not having said he mine own Righteousness which is of the Law but that which is through the Faith of Christ the Righteousness which is of God by Faith Phil. 3. 9. so far was he from either putting the Righteousness of Faith afar off or abhorring Sanctification within that he desired to have it and be possessed with it as one found in Christ. For that only doth God justifie us which doth suffice to turn away his Wrath from us and satisfie his Justice for our Transgression but Christ's Sufferings only c. Answ. I deny his minor as it depends on the Word only for then why are not all Men in the World justified for whom Christ suffered and dyed which was for all Men he tasted Death for every Man for the Sins of the whole World And yet he that believeth not on the Son hath not Life but the Wrath of God abides upon him therefore without Faith Repentance and Conversion which are Effects of Christ's inherent Righteousness and Work the Wrath is not turned away nor are Men justified Obj. Let us then place no Confidence in Sanctification Holiness Faith and the Works that follow as if these laying aside Christ's Death on the Cross could turn away God's Wrath c. Rep. Herein he varies from his Argument before which was that Christ's Sufferings only can turn away Wrath justifie c. Note It is not Sanctification Holiness Faith c. only can do it without Christ's Death or laying it aside But while here he implies that Sanctification Holiness Faith c. with respect to Christ's Death can turn away Wrath he hath contradicted his own Argument before of Christ's Sufferings only which also cannot be slited nor his Death made void where true Faith Sanctification in him are enjoyed for therein Christ himself is enjoyed and we dare not preach nor own such Doctrine as to abhor all Sanctification in us nor the having no Confidence in Faith and Sanctification which are wrought in the Soul by Christ Jesus CHAP. IV. Of Satisfaction some serious Considerations farther opening the Doctrine and Sence of our Opposers Obj. GOd will not Justifie us without full Satisfaction to his Justice for our Sin Rep. And what Kind of Satisfaction is it he thinks this Justice requires We confess a Satisfaction or answering his Good Pleasure in and by Christ Jesus but about the Manner of it as supposed and stated we differ See how the man states it He concludes it must be a Punishing our Fall 1st From God's Judgment 2dly God's Truth 3dly God's Will and Purpose Quest. What is his Ground from these see his Answer viz. 1st God hath said in the Day thou eatest thereof thou shalt Dye 2dly Cursed is he that continues not
p. 64. and when that shall be he explains p. 85. at his Coming in the End of the World quoting 1 Thes. 4. 17. Mark Reader here how plainly he contradicteth his Saying That At Death Sin is forever totally abolished Now it is in the End of the World when Christ cometh Personally as he supposeth to Judgment So by this confused Work one while Sin is Not done away in this Life another while it Is done away At Death another while it Is done away After Death another while it is Not done away Till the last Trump or End of the World whereas there are many Believers and Saints deceased in the mean time and many long since dissolved as to their outward Man what becomes of their Souls between the Time of their Departure and the End of the World for he hath confessed that No Unclean Thing shall enter the Kingdom of God So then if the Saints deceased be not throughly cleansed from Sin before nor Sin to be done away till the Eâ—…d of the World what other Place besides Heaven caâ—… he provide or think of for the Saints deceased How can he avoid the Pope's imagined Purgatory unless he hold the Mortality of the Soul that it dyes or sleeps in the Dust with the Body To his alledging That the Ministry is to continue to the last Trump and to the last Trump will Sin be in the Saints but then in a Moment will the Saints be changed and perfected If he intends that the Saints have their Benefit and part in the Ministry each in their Life time and several Ages how doth this clear his concluding that to the End of the World or last Trump Sin will be in the Saints that then in a Moment they shall be changed for many of the Saints are deceased many Hundreds of Years since which if Sin be in them still they do not particularly partake of the blessed End of Christ's Ministry and Gifts which were for the Perfecting of the Saints till all come into the Unity of the Faith and of the Knowledge of the Son of God unto a Perfect Man c. and yet those deceased Saints are not now under the Ministry of Apostles c. From Ephes. 4. 13. he saith That perfect Man is Christ with all his Members for he consists of many and he is thus to be a perfect Man in the other World not this pag. 46. Whereas the Benefit of God's Gifts did as well extend to the particular Saints and Members of his Body as to the whole Body to wit till we all come in the Unity of the Faith c. That we henceforth be no more Children tossed to and fro c. Ephes. 4. 14. There is no Danger of their being tossed in the other World with Windy Doctrines Both their Perfection and Establishment and Growing up in Christ in all things being Effects of his Gifts and Ministry which were experienced and obtained in this Life S. S. The Ministry and Scriptures were perfecting the Saints as long as they live Deut. 17. 19. The King shall read therein all the Dayes of his Life that he may Learn to fear therein the Lord his God If he is to Learn to fear God all the Dayes of his Life c. pag. 65. Answ. Are the Saints then but a Learning to fear the Lord God all the Dayes of their Life or Doth that King in the time of the Old Covenant represent the best State of the Saints in the New the King that was forbidden to multiply Wives Horses Silver or Gold to himself Are the best of Saints in the New Covenant in Danger of these things and therefore to be restrained by an outward Law that their Hearts turn not away from the Lord whereas he hath promised I will put my Fear in their Hearts and they shall not depart from me and this is a Condition of his Everlasting Covenant That there is a time of Perfecting Believers or Saints before they are Perfected I confess as while God was Creating the World it was not Created but I differ with him in his counting it God's good Pleasure that Sin should remain in the Saints and that to keep them Humble either till Death till after Death or to the End of the World and it were more absurd to say That Sin will remain even in the Saints deceased till the End of the World to keep them Humble It is true as he saith That whilst a Carpenter is building an House the House is not builded pag. 65. but then if the Carpenter undertakes to build a House and bargains for a Price to build it and then doth not build it or tells a Man whose Money he hath got It is true I took your Money to perfect this Building but I can get but little of it builded you must not expect to have it builded while you live Would not the Man reply then Give me my Money again But Carpenters do not use to cheat men thus They that are Honest do not use to serve People as you pretended Ministers do who say You are sent for Perfecting the Saints and for this take Money and Gifts and Rewards and yet tell them Perfection is NOT attainable in this Life Honest Carpenters would not deal thus with them In Psalm 119. 1 2 3 4. Blessed are the Undefiled in the Way he saith In Point of Justification Believers are in Christ their Head clear as the Moon fair as the Sun In Point of Sanctification through the Renewing and Assisting Grace they do not allow themselves in any known Sin but in God's Fear oppose all pag. 65. He hath said enough to break the Neck of his own Cause 1st Unless to be In Christ Spotless Clear as the Moon and Fair as the Sun be a Spotted or Sinful State 2dly Unless that there must remain some Sins in those that are in Christ which cannot be known to them whereas he that abideth in Christ sinneth not And He hath left us an Example that we should follow his Steps who did not sin And the Word Justifie sometimes useth to signifie to make Just by inherent Holyness or to Sanctifie as he confesseth pag. 89. Upon Titus 3. 5. 7. But if to evade this he renders Justification in their sense of Imâ—…utation then it is to reckon them Spotless Clear as the Moon Fair as the Sun who are yet Spotted Corrupted and Defiled with Sin But if in the Fear of the Lord true Believers through Renewing and Assisting Grace do not allow themselves in any known Sin but in God's Fear oppose all then if a Discovery of all Sin by the Light be attainable to them not only to Oppose but to Overcome all Sin through assisting Grace is attainable in this Life for Resist the Devil and he will flye And we can do all things through Christ that strengthneth us knowing our Faith in him which is the Victory and also obtaineth actual Dominion over Sin Whereas Psal. 119. 3. They also do no Iniquity
good without the Earthly and perishing Organs T. D. 3. Nor were the Promise to Glorifie Abraham's Soul made good without glorifying his Body too for the Happiness of the Soul is not Perfect without the Body its dear and beloved Companion the Soul having a strong Desire * and Inclination to a Re-union to the Body as the Schools not without good Ground determine vid. Calvin Harm Evang. in Mat. 22. 31 32. Luk. 20. 38. Answ. It is evident that this Man doth give this account that the Happiness of the Soul is not perfect without the Body not from any spiritual Sight of the Souls Happiness or Glory for in Page 81. he confesseth that the different Disposal of the Spirits of Man and Beast is not visible to the Eye of Sence and but dimly to the Eye of Reason and Faith although he has taken upon him by Tradition from Calvin c. to assert that the Happiness of the Soul is not perfect without the Body It may be understood that they have neither clear Reason nor perfect Faith for this and to be sure while he and others assert it without either we have no Reason to believe them But to answer him closely Both Calvin T. D. the Schools and divers Anabaptists are mistaken in this very Matter and see not with the Eye of true Faith either that the Happiness of the Soul is not perfect without the Body Or that the Soul hath a strong Desire to a Re-union to the Body â—…hile they intend the Terrestrial Elementary Bodies for this implies the Soul to be in a kind of Purgatory or Disquietness till the supposed Resumption of the Body and their Assertion and Determination herein is Contraty to what the Apostle saith 2 Cor. 5. for we know that if our earthly House of this Tabernacle were dissolved we have a Building of God an House not made with Hands eternal in the Heavens ver 1. for we that are in this Tabernacle do groan being burdened c. ver 4. We are confident I say and willing rather to be absent from the Body and to be present with the Lord ver 8. And said he I am in a Strait betwixt two having a Desire to depart c. Phil. 1. 23. See now the Stress of the Controversie where it lieth and that it is not only between these our Opposers Us but also between them and the Apostle Paul Thus viz. Calvin the Schools 〈◊〉 and Anabaptists determine and conclude That the Happiness of the Soul is not perfect without the Body and that the Soul when separate hath a strong Desire and Inclination to a Re-union to the Body But The Apostle Paul as knowing that when their Earthly House was dissolved they had a far better namely a Building of God Eternal in the Heavens Therefore in the Earthly Tabernacle they groâ—…ned being burdened as willing rather to be absent from the Body By which it appears they expected a more full Fruition or Felicity in the Heavenly Tabernacle then in the Earthly Their Soul did not desire after the Flesh as these Opposers imply neither had they any such Delight therein as fleshly Minds and carnal Contenders have Moreover the Apostle from the Visions and Revelations of the Lord saith I knew a Man in Christ above fourteen Years ago whether IN the Body or OUT of the Body I cannot tell God knows Such an one caught up to the third Heaven caught up into Paradise and heard upspeakable Words c. 2 Cor. 12. From hence consider that being caught up to the 3d Heaven into Paradise he doth not place the Sight and Sence of this Condition upon the Body for that he knew not whether he was In the Body or Out of the Body yet knew that he was a Man in Christ and in the Revelation of the Lord But he did not concern himself about this Earthly Body being so glorified in Heaven or Paradise as these Men do and carnally think who have neither Visions nor Revelations of the Lord concerning any such State but Calvin and the Schoolmens Determination contrary to the Apostles But the presumptuous Confidence of our Opposers appears the more in undertaking to assert or demonstrate the future State of the Soul as not being in perfect Happiness without the Body and as having a strong Desire after it while yet they neither know the State of the Soul nor have had so much as a Vision of the Glory thereof or of the glorified spiritual State of the Saints hereafter for Visions and Revelations they deem to be ceased long since and a Disposal of the Spirits of men after Death is not visible to the Eye of Sence and he saith but dimly to the Eye of Reason and Faith However while these Men cannot but appear themselves so Dim in these Sublime Matters and that while their dim Reason cannot reach them they cannot demonstrate to others either that the Souls of the Just in Heaven are not yet perfectly Happy or that they have such a strong Desire to a Re-union with the Body dissolved the shew themselves imaginary Intruders puft up in their fleshly Minds exercising themselves in things too high for them and it were better for them to sit down in Silence and wait in the Light to have some Sence and Knowledge of the true immortal Life to quicken them to God and not thus to busie themselves with unprofitable Talk brought forth from Imaginations of men and not from any true Sight or Revelation of the Conditions of Saints either here or hereafter His telling of Abraham's Soul living actually is true and as true it is That his Soul is in perfect Felicity and Glory and the more being out of the Earthly Tabernacle But his saying that the Body of Abraham or Bodies of the deceased Believers liveth potentially for this we have his own Traditional Assertion but not any Scripture-Proof or Phrase that suits it nor rational Demonstration for it As to his saying That if any shall say that Christ's Argument and his Application of it proves but the Resurrection of the Good c. I say his Application thereof seems but to extend to the Good as in his saying They whose God God is shall rise yet he hath not proved the Rising of their Earthly Bodies after they are dissolv'd to Dust and reduc'd to their first Elements but that there is a Resurrection of the Good and who of us questions that The Resurrection of the Good or of the Just being Glorious and extending not only to Arising out of the Fall out of Death that came by it out of the Grave of Corruption which hath followed yea out of the Dust of that Earth and out of all Afflictions here but also unto an Inheritance of Eternal Glory hereafter as They that be Wise shall shine as the Brightness of the Firmament and they that turn many to Righteousness as the Stars forever and ever So that they shall be so Celestial and Glorious as that they shall