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A12793 The sale of salt. Or The seasoning of soules Namely such, as for whom the chapmen here doe come, and whom the author, which taketh the name of a salter, is willing, what in him lieth, to season with the salt of the Word, leauing the successe to the Lord, without whose blessing in such works we can do nothing. Written by Iohn Spicer, minister of the word of God at Leckhamsteed in the county of Buckingham. Spicer, John. 1611 (1611) STC 23101; ESTC S117790 175,913 412

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that Daniel refused not that portion because it was of the Kings meate but for some other matter Sal. Some write that it was a custome in elder time to sette some of those meates which had beene offered to Idols on the Tables of great men On which also sometimes was set Swines-flesh and other Meates forbidden by the law of Moses Daniell fearing least that some times such should be brought him perhaps also that he saw it was more fit in respect of the times to take himselfe to a straight diet refused those Portions Chap. Was there nothing which had been sacrificed to Idoles sette on the Table before Christians in the Apostles times 1. Cor. 1 1● Sal. It should seeme that there was For S. Paule sayth If any man see thee which hast knowledge sitte at the table in the Idols Temple 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or Banquet shall not the conscience of him that is weake be built For so it is in the originall Meaning as some translate be boldned to eate those things which are sacrificed to Idoles and through thy knowledge shall thy weake Brother perish for whom Christ dyed By which words of the Apostle and others in Rom. 14. We see what a greeuous sinne it is for a man to be pufft vp so to seeke to please himselfe with his knowledge that he maketh no conscience of offending or setteth light by wounding him which for that he is somewhat lightned with the knowledge of God and hath begunne to hearken to the Doctrine of the Ghospell is to be counted a brother one of thē for whom Christ dyed And for that he is not yet setled nor come to the full knowledge of that libertie which Christ hath brought vs vnto is to be dealt withall not roughly but tenderly as being yet weake in the sayth and so eyther easily offended or els drawen on to do this or that which the stronger in faith knoweth to be lawfull not hauing any other warrant but the others example For if he were throughly perswaded in the matter his conscience should take no hurt thereby Chap. What if there had beene some Christian Magistrate amongst the Carinthians that he had commanded the stronger in fayth and such as had more knowledge then others of the Christian liberty touching the vse of Meates Drinks and such like to eate and drinke what they thought good sacrificed or not sacrificed any man offended or not offended Ought such to haue obeyed Sal. You presuppose that which could not be for it there had beene a Christian Magistrate amongst them which had beene a sound professer of the Gospell he would haue put downe all Idols So no Idols no Sacrifising to them no sacrafising no such meate to offend Chap. But what if a Christian Magistrate which tendereth the honour of the true God the peace of the Church and the tranquillity of the Kingdome commaund any thing which of it selfe is counted of many great Clearks indifferent to be vsed in the Church or els where not attributing any holynes or speciall worthines to the same but for decencie grauitie and order and some not onely of the weakest sort and such as haue lesse knowledge but also of the strongest such as haue lesse knowledge but also of the strongest such as are knowen to haue studied diligently and laboured painefully in some portion of the Lords haruest a long time being also wel reported of for their life and conuersation What I say if these be offended to see such things vsed should others that are not of their minde forbeare the vse of them for their sakes Sal. I cannot gather by any of the Apostles words that the strongest and such as knew well what belonged to the Christian libertie were then offended with such externall thinges as you speake of no not though they had been abused by Idolaters But I find the Apostle forbidding the despising and iudging one an other Rom 14.3.12.13 I find him selling vs that euery one of vs shall giue accomptes of himselfe to God that no man should put an occasion to fall or a stumbling blocke before his Brother that the weake conscience of those that with conscience of the Idoll did eate as a thing sacrificed vnto it was defiled 1. Cor 8.7 Rom. 14.5 1. Cor. 10.13.34 that euery man should be fully perswaded in his minde that all things are not expedient neyther doe edefie that he would haue no offence giuen neyther to Iewe nor Gretian nor to the Church of God Chap. If the higher power command me to do that which my neighbour is grieued at it cannot be but I shall offend one of them either the Commander or my neighbour Salt That is all one as if you should haue said I shall offend either my neighbour or my neighbour for my Prince is my neighhour I proue it thus He whom I ought to loue as my selfe is my neighbour but I ought to loue my Prince as my selfe for I ought to aduenture my life for his safety farre more willingly then for my selfe for that vnder God he is the light and peace of the whole land ergo he is my neighbour and such a neighbour to whom I owe more honor duty and obedience then to any other on earth whosoeuer So that if I bee perswaded that I may with a quyet conscience obey his commandements and haue the testimony of my conscience that I haue no mind to put any stūbling blocke before my brother nor to do any thing of purpose to offend any Gods seruants for that deserueth the milstone about the necke Mat. 18.6 c. In this case my brother is rather in my simple iudgment to proue his owne works and to looke what reason he can render for his refusing if hee bee commanded to doe the like then to be angry or offended with me which though I framed my selfe to obedience yet not as one willing to touch much lesse to wound his conscience bee it neuer so weake or strong neither am I so frée in this case as they that did eate meate offered to Idols for I am commanded by a Christian Prince to doe that I do but no man commanded them to do that Chap. So I see your minde let me haue some more of your Canonicall salt to see if that will season any of the Recusants especially such as haue more will then wit Salt If that which they haue had to wit Let euery soule be subiect to the higher powers c. And submit your selues to all maner or dinance of man for the Lords sake c. will not serue your turne I know not what to say to you Chap. I know it is sound but let me haue a little more Salt Then take it as I shake it He whom we ought to feare and honour next to the Lord is to be obeyed next vnto him and for him but where the feare of God is required the feare of the King is required next both by