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A85547 A right use made by a stander by at the two disputations at Great All-hollowes; between Mr. Goodwin and Mr. Symson, the 14. of January and 11. of February 1649. Concerning the poynts of generall redemption, and inevitable damnation immediately from God alone. Graunt, John, of Bucklersbury. 1649 (1649) Wing G1593B; Thomason E594_2; ESTC R202254 7,459 8

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unto all And although the Apostle in the 16. verse doth affirme that all have not obeyed the Gospel yet in the 18. verse he demands in the Negative and affirmes in the Affirmative that they have all heard even that word of grace ver 17. By which spirituall hearing and receiving to life is attained to through which our faith or assurance of justification is wrought And in those words of his But I say have they not heard His meaning is by the word they all the whole world of disobeyers opposers as well as the receivers and effectuall believers as appeares by his own answer with the testimony of Moses and Isaiah First proving that all that had not the Scriptures that they have heard And then all those that have had the Scriptures that they have heard also And first with his own testimony he joynes the Prophet Davids affirmatively Yes verily their sound went into all the earth and their words unto the ends of the world And then with Moses he sheweth that the effect of the word of grace was as truely wrought in some of them that had not the Scriptures which in comparison of the Jews were a foolish Nation and not a people As in some of his people that injoyed his Word and O●dinances And wi●h Isaiah he saith Those that sought him not and such people as were not ●●●●d by his Name they found him And so Luke ●estifies Act. 17. 28. E●●n th●y that ●ad so darke a light that the way is rather f●lt out by the hand ●h●● seene with the eye they even such found the Lord to be their God wh●n ●● many of the Jewes that had the Sun shine of his Word and Ordinances found him no● because they blinded their eyes and ●a●dened their hear●● as the Apostle affi●me● the Prophets testimony against them v●● 21. But to Israel he saith mark he spake before of the Gentiles such as had not the Scriptures and Ministry of men but now to those to whom he sent his Prophets and yet one and all of them complaine All the day long have we● stretched forth o●r hands to a dis●bedient and gaine saying people And here see plainly the Apostles and Prophets cleere evidence that God hath not left himselfe without witnesse of his grace vouchsafed to all mankind● so that all are inlightened taught and have heard the ligh● the way and means of salvation the Gospel the word of faith And as i● is cleerly proved to be preached to all that i● to every one and all mankinde in particular so also the dive●● manners and wayes how it is preached in both administrations shall be as cleerly shewed likewise And fi●st that God● word is a way and means for the preaching conveying and manifesting the grace of God for mans recovery and salvation is without question Search the Scriptures saith our Lord himselfe for they are they th●● testifie of mee that i● beare witnesse of him And that this dispensation by God● word works a differing administration one t●xt will p●o●● plainly ● Cor. 2. 15 16. For ●ee saith the Apostle that is the fa●thfull dispencer● of the Word are a sweet savour of life to them that a●e s●ved and ●●●hem that parish to the one the savour of death unto death and to the other th●●avour of life unto life And this will be confest by all but how the dispensation of the Gospel by the preaching of the creatures works the like d●ff●r●nt administration that i● the great question The truth of this will plainly b● manifested two waye● First by Scripture-evidence and secondly by Scriptur●presidents And first for the evidence of Scripture the Apostle is cleere for it Rom. 2. 14. For when the Gentiles do● by nature the things contained i● the Law these having not the Law or Scriptures are a Law unto themselves which shew the worke of the Law written in their ●●a●●● ●o● not the 〈…〉 of the Law are justified before God but the do●rs all h●r● all ●r● taught as before is proved ye● onely the obeyet● are justified therefore saith the Apostle ver 2● I● the uncircumcision that i● ●●●ha● h●th not the book● of Scriptures nor divine ordinances if he keepe the righteousnesse of the Law shall not his uncircumcision be counted for Circumcision that is he shall be so truly even the regenerate chosen and sanctified childe of God in the estate of salvation the childe of the Covenant for he is not a Jew that is a childe of God that is one outwardly neither is that Circumcision that is outward in the flesh but he is a Jew that is one inwardly he is the true Israelite for Circumcision is that of the heart in the Spirit and not in the Letter whose praise is not of men but of God The knowledge of this truth that God works effectually to salvation by the preaching of the creatures makes the Prophet David and the Apostle Paul cry out with one voyce Psal 19. and Rom. 10. Day unto day teacheth knowledge and night unto night uttereth wisedome there is no speech nor language where their voyce is not heard which voyce they both affirme to preach and declare Gods perfect Law or Covenant that converteth soules Now no Covenant of God converts soules but the Gospel the word of promise none but that gives wisedome or maketh wise that pure statute onely inlightens the eyes and turnes the heart from all evill to the feare of the Lord even the ingrafted word that endures for ever for it is the same promise grace Gospel and means of salvation preacht by the creatures as is preacht by the Scriptures and the same Spirit of God that works by the one works by the other the Prophets and Apostles they call for repentance and so doth Gods works also Rom. 2. 4. And this is the first part of the Gospel or promise and the same Spirit gives it and works it by the means of both Againe the Spirit of God by the Ministry of his faithfull servants comforts and binds up the broken-hearted and so doth the Spirit of God also in the comforting operations of the voyces of his creatures refresh and consolate the spirituall mourner the Spirit witnesseth with our spirits that are under Gods servants Ministry that we are the children of God even so the same Spirit witnesses to such as are under Gods works dispensation that the God thereof is become their God for so it is to be a true Jew or an Israelite indeed But some may say the works of God doe not declare Jesus Christ nominally nor the Ministry of his incarnation death resurrection ascension nor his Mediatorship I answer the distinct and particular knowledge of these things is not alwayes and under all dispensations of absolute necessitie to salvation for most of the Patriarcks and Prophets were ignorant of Christ and these particulars in nomination and yet had their vertue and operation to eternall life Now as the Spirit of God works effectually in their