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A77969 Truth (the strongest of all) witnessed forth in the spirit of truth, against all deceit: and pleading in righteousnesse its owne cause, to the understanding of the simple, against a very great number of lyes, slanders, perverting of the Scriptures, contradictions and false damnable doctrines, held forth by the Independants. And in particular by one John Bunion, (one of Gogs Army) in two severall bookes put forth by him, against the despised scattered people called Quakers. And is a reply unto his second book, called A vindication, &c. wherein what was wanting in his former of fulfilling wickednesse is now appeared; by his adding sin unto sin, against God and against his owne soule. And this is to cleer the truth from above 100 of John Bunions foule dirty lyes and slanders: by a friend of the truth as it is in Christ Jesus; and not as it is in mens carnall apprehensions, Edward Burrough. Burrough, Edward, 1634-1662. 1657 (1657) Wing B6051; Thomason E910_3; ESTC R207500 55,009 70

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since he hath already falsly charged me with it as some in the County of Bedford knows very well that he hath falsly charged me and denyed his own words spoken by his own mouth Also he said Take notice that I affirme that there is nothing in me nor in any man to he taken notice of These are his own words spoken by him Aprill 12. 1656. at Patnam witnessed by three men who heard it from his mouth and this charge he doth not fully deny but in a great measure he assents to it yet would cover his shame a little with a lye in saying Directly in this forme of words he did not lay them downe but this will not serve to hide his reprobate state for to his face it maybe testified he spoke the words as I have laid them down and therefore consider against whom I am yoaked against one that is a reprobate and without Christ in him one that have denyed Christ in him or else thinks Christ not worth taking notice of O abominable ignorance why should such a fellow take the things of God in his mouth who hath denyed Christ in him and the Spirit of Christ indeed it appears that he doth take notice of nothing in him else he would have been wounded with the light in his own conscience before he had brought forth thus many lyes it seems he takes notice of nothing in him but is past feeling damnable doctrine indeed without comparison that ever one professing a Minister of Christ should be so stark blind and wicked yea we have taken notice of what thou hast said and it shall be recorded for ignorance of the greatest sort but he would evade the thing and give a sence upon his words and in such a sence he ownes and in such a sence he denyes it but what is this to the purpose except he confesse it as it is that he is unregenerate and if so he confesses the light of God is in him and then to be taken notice of if it be but to condemne him O blindnesse to be marked well this mans folly hath appeared sufficiently who confesses this light in every man is the light of Christ as Gód and yet saith he affirmes there is nothing in him nor any man regenerate or unregenerate without exception his words here spoken worth the taking notice of The rest of the particulars charged upon his fellowes is passed by with the excuse of wanting the names expressed may be he is glad to be ignorant in this thing but le ts search John Burion said That Christ had two bodyes one our of the sight of the Saints in Bedford May 23. 1656. And to this John Bunian confesses but would excuse it if he could and would manifest that Christ hath two bodies cleane contrary to the Scripture which affirms Ephes. 4. 4. Now no marvell that he gain-sayes me when as he hath gain saied the Apostle who saith expresly There is one body but they say two bodies let them be ashamed for ever thus to contradict Scripture John Spencly one of the Testators of this lying scrole a member of the same supposed Church said that Christ and the word of life were two things and so would divide Christ contrary to the 6th of John 48. where Christ saith he is the bread of life and contrary to 1 John 1. 2. The 23. of the 8. month 1656. John Bunion and one Fer. and J. Child laid down 1. That God dyed And that very God and the everlasting Father dyed contrary to many Scriptures as Dan. 4. 34. Dan. 12. 7. 2. They affirmed That the word that was in the beginning was crucified upon the Crosse contrary to the 1 Peter 1. 23. 3. They affirmed That justification is without obedience But yet say I None is justified in disobedience but all condemned in it let them mark that and there is but either in obedience or in disobedience and he that is a Believer and justified is not without obedience 4. That There is a light which convinceth of sin besides the light of Christ and John Bunian in all his Booke cannot prove any is convinced of sin that hath not the light of Christ or that any thing besides the light of Christ doth convince of sin so that his confusion doth appeare 5 That There is no saving knowledge but what comes without from Heaven contrary to 2 Cor. 4. 6 7. where it is said the light shone in their hearts out of darknesse J. Child denyed that the man Christ Jesus had given a light to every man that comes into the world contrary to Joh. 1. 9. Also he denyed That every man was lighted that they might believe contrary to Jo. 12. 36. 35. Jo. Burton said That a man might be upon the foundation and yet deny Christ Now the Scripture saith Matth. 10. 33. He that denyes Christ shall be denyed of the Father and the Father denyes not any that are on the foundotion as they affirme Another of them said That the word that was hid in Davids heart was the outward Scriptures Another of them affirmed That he was justified from all his sins past present and to come and said there was Scripture in the Acts to prove it John Burton said That a man is not justified by the Spirit John Bunian said the 30. of the 11. month That the Spirit of Christ doth nothing Mark within man as to justification he affirmed That the flesh of Christ is not within any man then there is no man that hath life in him if Christs words be true Jo. 6. 53. and Christs words is true and therefore Jo. Bnnions doctrine is he said That by the Kingdome of Heaven within the Pharisees Luke 17. Christ speakes of himselfe there as a personall man to be that Kingdome of heaven Mark here what the substance of this is doth he meane that the person of Christ was in the Pharisees O horrid blindnesse not to be parrelelled He said The best thing in a naturall man is Impure and yet in this Book confesses that the light of God is in all men so that must be impure else J. Bunians doctrine is a lye but the light of God is pure and therefore Jo. Bunians doctrine is a lye He said that the Scripture In every place doth not mean as it speakes and instanced that in Peter not to mean as it speaks where it is said yea as lively stones are built up a spirituall house and where it is said have salt in your selves He asked if a mans belly must be filled with salt Mark this expositor and his blindnesse and ignorance and the cause why he is silent And forbears to aggravate sin is least hard thoughts should be entertained against him Let men judge whether this be not an unfaithfull man to the Lord who rather then harsh thoughts should be against him in the wicked he will be silent and hide and cover sin in sinners O wickednesse indeed He saith that Christ Ascended
into Heaven in our nature viz. in his nature and they that are one with him and he and they are proved to be in corrupt nature as they will confesse it O what wickednesse to hold forth that Christ is at the right hand of God in sinfull nature as his words holds forth from his owne mouth Jo. Burton said That men may depend too much upon something called Christ and the righteousnesse of Christ within He saith that the Devil Knowes how to take the Childrens bread viz. Christ Jesus who onely is the Childrens bread and give him to dogs O sad error and damnable He saith That the Devill deceives soules by bidding them follow the light which they brought into the world with them And he confesses that light is the light of Christ as God O unutterable ignorance can a sober man read this and not be ashamed to hold forth that the Devil deceives soules by bidding them follow the light of Christ as God He saith they that follow Christ aright must follow him without to the crosse without for justification or mount Calvery without they must seek for justification without and the Spirit of Christ it leads to Christ without Reader see if this be not near unto Poperey or enquire else what he meanes as if he would have people to goe a Pilgrimage and this is contrary to Rom. 10. 6 7 8. He saith That the soule of man is the light wherewith every man is lighted by Christ as God and this is the light that every man brought into the world with him and the Devil deceives soules by this light viz. by the soule this is true from his owne words let it be marked by sober men what damnable doctrines these are hardly fit to be raked in He saith further That the Devil deceives soules by perswading them to follow the light within which he confesses is the light of Christ and that all men hath it He saith Conscience is the light of God and yet in another place saith Conscience is defiled what concurrence is here let the Reader judge to hold forth that the light of God is defiled his words plainly shewes to say that the law is the Schoolmaster to bring to Christ He saith This is a frothy argument And to make up his wickednesse he saith He is ruled by Scripture consider whether those doctrins and lyes be not quite contrary to Scripture what impudency is in this mans heart to say he is ruled by Scripture he saith They that look upon * Christ no otherwayes then as he was before the world was he dare to be bold to say they are no Christians but Antichristians he saith That * Christ as he is Mediater so he doth not lighten every man that comes into the world though as he is God he doth Markhere he would divide Christ not to be the same the Son as he is the Father yet he confesses in his Book What the Father doth the Son doth also see what contradiction here is not worth the raking in O blindnesse that may be felt in the grossest darknesse he inhabits He saith That the Devil hath more experience of the knowledge of the eternall power and Godhead then unregenerate men Mark the word more signifies something He saith The light of Christ as God is conscience and nature it selfe Mark nature is sinfull and wicked and all are children of wrath in it so are all by the light of Christ as God wicked children of wrath if Jo. Bunions doctrin be true let him make it good as he can O wonderful trash muddy stuff unheard of before He saith The Devil deceives souls by bidding them listen within and see if there be not that which doth convince of sin Mark his doctrin well He denyes That Paul bids listen within contrary to that Scripture Rom. 10. 8 9. He saith conscience may be hardned and seared and is naturally evill and yet saith Conscience is the light of Christ as God see what an agreement is here the light of Christ as God is hardened and seared and evil else J. Bunion must revoke his doctrine or else prove this Consider what stuff this is which is held forth by him He saith he preaches not for hire indeed he had no need to receive mony for such doctrin as these He saith Christ is some four or five foot long This is more then he can tell He reckons the doctrin of Christ within a false or among false opinions He saith It is contrary to Scripture to say the measure or manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man though Paul saith so plainly to the Corinthians 1 Cor. 12. 7. Mark here he hath spoken quite contrary to Scripture denyed that which Paul affirmed or else counted Pauls words against Scripture He saith They that are borne of God doe daily sin absolute contrary to the 1 John 3. 9. And therefore he would give the Apostle the lye Now Reader consider whether thou wilt believe John Bunian or the Apostle John for they are at ods and speaks quite contrary one to the other He saith That the light that shewes thee there is a God and that this God is eternall would lead to life then might the Devils be delivered from damnation and the Devils knowes God as a Creator c. He saith That the light spoken of John the 3●is the man Christ Jesus and yet saith that the man Christ Jesus is not a condemning light Mark that Scripture saith that light was condemnation to them that did evill he saith not who must you believe He saith That the lyar and slanderer is an unbeliever and his condition is sad Consider here how out of his owne mouth he is condemned who is at large proved a lyar and slanderer out of his own mouth will the Lord condemn him He saith That a man cannot give a more right description of a false Prophet then the Prophets Christ and the Apostles did give Reply In this thou hast truly said Now le ts consider how thou hast confessed to thy own shame and laid open thy own nakednesse the Prophets said such was false Prophets as preached for hire and divined for mony and fed themselves and clothed themselves with the woole and that used their tongues and said the Lord saith it when God had not spoken to them and that cryed peace to the wicked and Christ said such were deceivers who had the chiefest place in the assembly and stood praying in the Synagogues and loved the uppermost rooms at feasts and that were called of men master and such like and the Apostle said such were deceivers to take gifts and rewards and lucre and that loved unrighteous wages and that were backbiters and false accusers and covetous and having a forme of Godlinesse but denying the power who ever taught and the people were not able to come to the knowledge of the truth with many other such like Now this is my appeale to all mens consciences